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My games teacher told me about this. In indie companies especially, it's basically always crunch time in the game dev world. Also there's the practice of laying off everyone when the game finally comes out to recoup the money spent.

However, it was enough to impress upon me that everyone needs to go home for the weekend, especially if they're working long hours. The only time the weekend will be worked during the final months.
And I wouldn't lay off anyone for that either. Their paycheck might be a week or two late, but they'll get it and still have a job to come back to.

@Garde

> As well as said person churning out educational material that appears to push opinion rather than fact (Couldn’t archive)

Here's the archive. If you want to archive pdfs check google cache (either search for the pdf in archive.is and then when it's not found click the "check google cache" button or put "cache:[PDF'S URL] in the url section of chrome") and then archive that. Google cache automatically turns pdfs into html when they crawl the web.

Some sites that can't be archived under archive.is can be under archive.org so go there, put the url into the "Save Page Now" box and save it there, then save the resulting archive.org page with archive.is.

@Dioxin Jimmy

> My games teacher told me about this. […] And I wouldn’t lay off anyone for that either. Their paycheck might be a week or two late, but they’ll get it and still have a job to come back to.

"These devs busted their asses off to make my game get out the door and make me money, I'm going to respond by kicking said asses under the bus!"- EA/Activision/Ubisoft.

Gee, I wonder why so many big publishers can't keep staff working for them? /s

The common practice for big companies like EA and Activision is to turn over the entire developmental staff every year, or sometimes after a game comes out, to keep costs as low as possible.

I know it's the cliche people like to spread about them, but they actually do treat their dev teams like farms. If the crops aren't coming, the farmers will get the boot.

Working at companies like that is a death sentence to any prospective game developer's career.

Update on the Hogan lawsuit.

How to lose in court with six words.

Yeah, don't think a place that'll post sex tapes of 5-year-old celebrities would go down very well.

Planning to respond to a previous reply to me, but not right now.

Gawker right now.

I am leaving Gamer Gate, Aggros is full of too many people that thinks about childrens, in a bad way, is bad for my emotional, psychological and spiritual stability.

I mean, seriously, WHT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS PEOPLE?.

You know, I was always told that you shouldn't say or do something to dehumanize someone. It's just wrong and usually just used to dismiss whoever is making the argument, or whatever.

However, I find it very hard to not point it out when people do it to themselves in such an extravagant manner.

The people of Gawker are a unique and pathetic breed of evil.

Am I understanding that right? That editor would willingly post a sex-tape featuring a child, but only so long as they're older than 4?!

Why are these people still employed?!

…Shouldn't that be the one time you DO make a news article out of these kinds of things? To spread awareness of a crime?

…And NO OTHER REASON?

Sure, but don't post a video of it. Just make an article and avoid potential legal trouble.

Archived just in case

But as far as I understand it can be summed up by this quote in the article: "…Daulerio when he was the head of Gawker’s brother sports site Deadspin… 'His tactics --- reporting rumors, paying for news and making Deadspin’s money on stories that are really about sex, not sports -- are questionable. His success is not. When he became editor of the site in July 2008, it had 700,000 readers per month. Today it has 2.3 million.' "

So, ethics. This man has none and it's caused him to be a walking clickbait generator.

Seriously you can almost imagine the reaction clicks going crazy as soon as the number escaped his lips.

I'm calling it but I'm guessing Daulerio is going to state "I was trolling" as a defense when a verdict is reached.

I’d like to see proof that Natalie O’Brien, the (formerly) pregnant woman who is listed as an “administrator” for Giant SpaceKat, exists.

In various publications, Brianna has mentioned a woman named Natalie O’Brien. She has claimed that Natalie O’Brien is a pregnant woman who she hired as an administrator. I now believe that Natalie O’Brien may not exist and that Brianna Wu has simply pocketed the money for herself.

More information, a further analysis and an explanation as to why the information I posted won't help with the Feminist Frequency situation. Plus it counts the amount of money Fem freq makes.

Any form of sexual activity with a human whose age is a one digit number in real life is something that must not be recorded or distributed and must be something personal and private as in the individual touching itself out of curiosity. Only in fiction such things as a 5 year old in a sex tape are not a crime.

Any form of sexual activity with a human whose age is a one digit number in real life is something that must not be recorded or distributed and must be something personal and private as in the individual touching itself out of curiosity. Only in fiction such things as a 5 year old in a sex tape are not a crime.

DeathandTaxes begs to differ.

Sarcasm Apparently being outraged over a reply in a case that comes off as flippant or lacking judgement, is just trolling by some single braincelled Gamergate cretins. End Sarcasm

Edit: Plus side, Hey a journalist indirectly linked this instance to Gamergate! That means its possible to comment/link about it in the comments section, just be mindful of how to word it as someone who comes across this could be offended by the tone.

I have said before I'm not really all that involved in GG anymore, but I still check in every now and then, and I feel I must ask: why is the Hogan vs Gawker case being brought up as a GG issue? This feels like something for a separate thread is all.

Like this

Joking or not that was fucking stupid, and nowhere near the only stupid thing that he said in that deposition ("I didn't care if Hogan was damaged" = massive liability).

Also, New York Times confirmed for GamerGate front group. /s

@Mistress Fortune

Gawker has been a massive front of this whole little war, the Hogan lawsuit has been constantly updated on the GamerGate comments/forum thread for over a year, and that article blaming GamerGate for Gawker's failures in the lawsuit.

From what I understand, the Hogan Vs Gawker was originally brought up here for for a few loosely related reasons.

Mostly because of ethics.
Gawker was originally one of the sites boycotted by GG for Leigh Alexander and their portrayal of Gamers. Further investigation of Gawker by GG members revealed corruption riddled through the company, and then the whole Hogan's Suit happened. So this is more of discussing the aftermath of the suit (the case going on.) It's loosely related and is being discussed about here since this discussion thread has been claimed:

"With the comment section often misused, please use this thread as a social hub or to share simple info on anything GG related." -RandomMan

Opinion
From my viewpoint, the posting of the article here is a question of "is this related?" Without disturbing the comments section and getting it locked. However, since articles of this loosely related nature ( the nature being "hey this was mentioned in the past and was talked about in Gamergate, does it apply now?" ) it becomes a topic of discussion. (we've talked about FE:Fates, Treehouse's ethics… Charities funded, Drama, Kickstarter ethics, founding of Kickstarter like programs with amendments… They're all loosely related, but branch from the instance of Gamergate in one way or another.)

If you look above your comment, the post I put up has now an article dismissing the hype of the case to be put on Gamergate, it has gone from loosely related to just related. And will continue to be a topic of discussion here for a while until a verdict is reached. (then that might get debated about because of claims of a mistrial or something to that extent)

As far as I can tell Gamergate is evolving, shifting from an instance in time (Adam Baldwin's naming) to a group that finds contradictions in Journalism, Gaming, Law, Self Investigation, Media and reveals what's going on with facts and verification.

Gamergate, in my opinion, is now some sort of ongoing Compiler/Critique for Ethics/Morals. Just instead of code it checks on those that were related to its coming of existence (Gawker, Fem Frequency, Crash Override Network, Etc.) and interests (videogames and the media related to videogames) So as Gamergate keeps finding things to correct it's going to keep on existing and instances of outrage on its radar are going to be loosely related. Causing odd topics to show up here for discussion even if its a few degrees off.
End opinion

Yes, there can be a thread to discuss the incident of the Hogan V Gawker Trial but it won't stop the discussion on it, here in this thread, from happening.

Edit to avoid Doublepost:

TB Decides to go on about the localization of FE:fates, citing changing nature of characters for no reason and turning them into meme spouting machines (PICKLES!) and ellipsis generators (56:16):

Yeah, the Hulk Hogan case is a GG thing because of the ethics problem with Gawker even though it doesn't have anything to do with video games (plus, it could establish a precedent of some sort).

I think GG just needs to keep focusing on ethics and journalism, not so much on culture war stuff. I mean, if you're Pro-GG and you point out and ridicule something stupid said or done by an ideologue, then that's fine, I just don't recommend tying it into GG. I'll admit I'm guilty of this, but I can't completely approve of a video that talks about sexism and gaming and uses the GG hashtag.

@Garde: In the last Co-Optional Podcast before that, he had Nika Harper on it. Nika Harper has gone on record to be anti-GG, but she still says and does a lot of things that lead me to believe she was misinformed. Her and TB even agreed about how diversity in games is great, as long as it isn't driven by assholes like bad games journalism (Kotaku, Polygon, etc.).

It makes me dissapointed that people out there still believe the lies about GG and purport them like they are indistutable facts.

To those like Nika Harper that still believe the lie that GG is a hate group: Do your damn research. I'm getting sick of correcting you.

Found the possible motive. You probably already knew it and are not going to like it

I know I'm trying to be objective here and playing things as they go but this has been my reply to Daurelio's flippancy:

A brief clip of the recording was played during cross-examination of University of Florida journalism professor Mike Foley, who appeared as a $350-an-hour expert witness for Hogan.

WAIT A MINUTE, MICK FOLEY, NOW GOD JOINS THE BATTLE.

Wrong Foley.

You were thinking of this guy:

What they brought was this guy:

What others are probably thinking to any mention of Gamergate or gamergate related actions as of late (when we trend):

Way to ruin a joke.

Ok, joking asside, Gamergate is now an Inkblot test and not dead according to the Washington Post

@MexPirateRed
The reason why I went through the explanation is that I had no idea who either Foley was. I don't watch professional wrestling and some of our international users may not either.

I can't see the archive because of my security thing. Am I safe to assume that they're saying that anyone who supports GG are misogynistic turbo-rapists, or did they actually do something right for a change?

The media is buckling, looks like they can't run the "GamerGate is literally worse then an ISIS of Hitlers" that they really want so they're being forced into "this is complicated, both sides have a point" style faux-"neutrality".

I notice that when this is guy is citing Oliver he only actually quoted one sentence Oliver said and just wrote his interpretation of the rest.

Also didn't bother to mention that Oliver is black when printing "Gamergate's critics argue based on the harassment that people associated with the movement are acting with deliberate hostility to women and minorities", something that Oliver called him on.

Also cited his colleague Caitlin Dewey's reporting without mentioning her "Anonymous is doing an operation that's totes gonna stop GooberGrape!" (that collapsed when the real Anon popped up and said "No") and "The Feds have shut down 8chan for child porn!" (the registry tried to steal the domain name before Hotwheels threatened to report them to ICANN and they backed down).

Nail on the head rant about Buzzfeed's click-bait and box ticking, by an eleven year old?
Even kids can see through the media's bullshit.

so, it's happening. hulkamania

Too bad they can not vote

If Hulk Hogan win this case(and he will) how will this hurt Kotaku?

They will loose ALLOT of money
This, by the way, being at a time when they are already loosing allot of money thanks to GGs campaign

according to nick denton, CEO of gawker media they will no longer be able to stay in business. this is the end but their properties (kotaku, jezebel) may be liquidated and sold to other companies. (they won't and evenn if they do they will probably be completely gutted. given how these internet takeovers go)

Level Up was a massive failure.

Wu claims Milo is there, even when the guy is in Alaska right now.

If they want to appeal the judgement they have to put up a bond for the full amount in case they lose the appeal, they don't have that kind of cash laying around.

They got an outside investor before the trial started, but he's a mob boss Oligarch so I wonder if he's going to be mad at them for losing his money.

@MexPirateRed

> Wu claims Milo is there, even when the guy is in Alaska right now.

Leading to possibly the biggest public spat between high-ranking AntiGamers to date.

Also this:

Yes it's real.

That person trolling Harper IRL deserves a freaking medal

It now looks like that was just someone using the time zone differences to make it look like they were the one Randi was triggered by.

Still funny she got triggered by someone in the audience browsing a hashtag.

Hey any mods on this place. TehDoh and Nitwit64 are spamming the gamergate page trying to get it locked. I thought those two were banned from the page? I don't want it locked.

Also can we please get it updated its aged as hell now.

Such a packed house.

Contact RandomMan (He's the one who gave the notice on the thread and as a result it gives credence on their judgement over what breaks the rules) or one of the higher ups with block-able/suspend-able powers and use a respectful tone. State which of the 6 rules they're breaking, and cite (link) evidence of the repeated offense. (In this case: Rules 2 [relevancy], 4 [spamming] and 6 [tone/friendliness])

Don't cite exact specifics (like username) but provide a link if necessary, Give a gist and explain how the rules are being broken regardless of content. Basically make it a point that they're breaking the rules that govern KYM and it's not a defense of Gamergate.

As for the comments section:

I'm getting ready for another post update of links under 1500 characters. I'm thinking the recent witch hunt/portrayal of Milo as a Boogie Man (Wu and Harper talking about banning him from SXSW) causing massive thought crimes (Posters and therapy sessions held at campuses regarding his tour). His mysterious ability to be in two places at once (Alaska and SXSW). And how Harassment in video games isn't as popular as originally thought (the turnout and discussion numbers dwindling.) The tie in would be Randi's own twitter post that was shown above about an attendee researching Gamergate.

I like how spread out everyone is. It's almost like they're afraid to sit next to one another.

Breaking character here but I can't resist the (in poor taste) joke:
What you're physically observing is safe space.

Having one's entire worldview based around paranoia does that to a person

Just PM a mod. The odds of us reading reports in this thread is very small.

Someone did that and thanks to him I now suspended both of them.

Also, we'll update the page if something big happens. Any small event without much coverage or this silly thing Wu said isn't really worth our time.

GG peaked in October 2014, what's going on nowadays can't compare in the slightest.

Sorry, I had to do this…

Oh, no, someone thinks Milo is there, and someone might have looked up GamerGate on their smart phone…