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Wu's record is full of false statements. I bet this is another one of those. At least there's an 80% chance Wu is making it all up to take advantage of having an audience which will believe any false statements they find even remotely beneficial.

Yeah I was about to say the same. I know it's tempting to think that some people will change their views and stances, which can apply to anti-GG people as well. I get there's a chance it could be true, but it is coming from Wu, which means it does not have much innate credibility.

Also, it's ironic she's talking about about other people having serious problems given that her own side has had many people who are pedophiles, rapists, or basically just abusive to others. I know many have been outed but I do not believe that every bad person in that group has been exposed.

Knowing my history on lolcows, Brianna Wu has a huge history of fabrications, hypocrisy, racism, and exaggerations. Now people are noticing that she's still beating the same dead horse again 6 years in a row. As for the apology letters, that trick was done in 2014.

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It is entirely possible for someone to change their minds on thing. Let's be honest though. Most of the people involved in GamerGate on the "pro" side actually moved on to other things for the most part and only respond to GG when mentioned by someone again.

Even us here pretty much just show up whenever there's a new post. Basically if "anti-GG" people just stopped beating a dead horse, it would be over.

Where did we move on though depends on each individual. Some of us engage in a "bigger" culture war so to speak. Some of us also moved on to create things. Others literally just got burnt out and decided to focus on inner growth.

And, considering I met so many likeable people because of this entire situation, I consider it a beneficial thing. Now I just wonder what became of those who I have no more contact with since then. I hope they're doing fine and accomplishing their goals.

Can attest to moving on. Honestly, most of us on either side would move on since we got more important things hopefully. Anyone left that, on the pro side, isn't rolling their eyes at something like "GamerGate is why Trump got elected" or anyone left, on the anti side, that isn't giving a simple like on how GamerGate was a shitty thing (as in someone just remembering why they didn't like GG back when it was a thing and why they thought it was terrible) will just be hanger ons that didn't move on.

Hell, I don't even think much of any talk in this thread is really gonna be something making GG move on so much as just making a comment on some article that keeps bringing up GamerGate or a brief glance at some tweet from someone like Brianna Wu or going "huh" at Anita Sarkeesian being brought up.

All that said with GG, all I wonder about it at this point is where is all the fan arts for Vivian James? Even if one didn't like GG, she was still a good thing in at least the design and art she had regardless of how people see her, whether some see her as a mascot or others thinking she was somehow a shield to deflect criticisms of misogyny or whatever.

Good question. I like redheads, so her absence has turned painful. I do still see her face from time to time on a few comics made by the pro side.

Whelp, Popdust decides to re-define #Gamergate as the reason why mainstream video games do not cater to a female audience because it openly was a harassment kabal against women developers. Specifically a smear campaign on Zoe Quinn spearheaded by her ex, claimimg she traded her sexuality for favorable reviews which was proven false by (Citation needed, listen and believe.)

Given the relativley unknown status of popdust, its recent article yesterday, and it's eagerness to misconstrue events that played out; it is of my opinion that Zoe is going to try something videogame related to generate more cash for her next (lavish lifestyle choice) videogame related venture.

New year, new election season. Same song and dance. Trust but verify.

And we are back because BuzzFeed is at it again lmao
Ellen Page and Paris Berelc have been cast in the gaming comedy ‘1UP’ for BuzzFeed Studios. The film is described as being in the vein of ‘Pitch Perfect’ but set in the world of esports with a Gamergate backdrop.

And the director is Kyle Newman, same guy that did this

Update: Zoe Quinn made a reaction


And a couple more reactions from different people such as Felicia Day and Rami Ismail

Update 2: Brianna Wu made a response too

For the director, I have a feeling he is some self-proclaimed male feminist, which only reinforces stereotypes when his ex-wife accuses him of abuse. Ironically he probably sees GG as being abusive. I know it's an accusation, but I am leaning towards it being true, plus the accusation is pretty recent.

She brought a man to suicide and still plays victim. These are not people. They're monsters.

This post isn't a GG post again, but it's Sony being to usual asshole guy that is 'Sony America' because Sony Japan ‘has been sidelined’ from PlayStation 5’s launch. which means PS4 exclusive Japanese games such as Bloodborne, Gravity Rush, The Last Guardian, etc. will not be on PS5. Concluding that the Playstation will be set to global standards.

Here's the timelines that has been passed:

2016: Sony moves to California.
2018: Forcing Japanese devs to meet global standards
2019: Sony California goes on to change it's standards on sexual content in response to the #MeToo movement
2020: Changing Jp standards to global

Considering it is related to corruption among ideological groups and the eventual influencing of content through their ideological bias, it does correlate to GG.

It connects as much as the censorship in DOA did back when things were fresh.

Ironically, by calling it out by name you revive it. Such is the nature of this thread. Calling out #gamergate means that the movement is shambled out again. Repeating the cycle. Deliberately posting about wanting to stop it, in the gamergate thread, which discusses gamergate, gives it new life.

On that note, Bioware director almost becomes aware as to what the movement was about

That's not to say poor writing and rushed development lead to bad sales/backlash for franchise sequels, no, the blame is on the ones who bought the games.

It was not the directorial choice of "you must play the muliplayer to unlock the additional endings" in mass effect 3 or the fact that dragon age 2 was 7 years of being stuck inside a hub city instead of exploring the world. No, the fault lied with the gaming bigots that disliked the material.

If there was "Don't hire me to direct a video game because I don't take responsibility" flag, this article would be it.

Are you kidding? Even the people who were pro-gg including myself think it should die, it's like keeping the Simpsons going for 30+ seasons.

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Wait what do you mean it did?

This thread mainly serves as a record to archive instances of #gamergate. Like how recently a sports magazine talks about an entire female gaming collective backed by a 1.5 million venture. Throwing in an unfounded definition that #gamergate was a movement lead by male gamers to harass females in the industry.

So to make it clearer, by expressing wanting to let GG die, in a thread about documenting the very thing, 4 days after the last mention in the thread, has rekindled the discussion here. Bringing in a non-existant argument by aluding to the simpsons doesn't help.

This is an archive of gamergate, not a holdout of its supporters. It's like being anoyed at a library for having an archive of old newspapers.

Okay but Seasons 8-15 were kino.

The movement, yes.
This particular thread, no.

Thing is that this thread now serves as an archival purpose nowadays. I doubt that this movement is "alive" in this site since it has like about 5 people including me are still active in this thread archiving whatever people are saying blaming the boogyman.

I'm still around. I've just been trying to curb my time online and haven't had much to report.

While the movement may be over with, things still need to be archived and a close eye needs to be kept on creators, journalists, and the industry as a whole. Anti-GG still hasn't forgotten their loss and we can't allow the history to be rewritten nor crammed down the memory hole. The industry is also still infested, so problems will still inevitably crop up.

We're quite similar. I pretty much moved on to other things, but this thread still serves its purpose of making sure no one tries to erase the truth as they often do.

Yeah, that's fair. I'm just staying here because as time goes on several of those whom are runningvout of funding are now going "And I would have gotten away with it to if it wasn't for that pesky and their Gamergate." So those articles will need to be recorded as they occour.

Also this Queens project looks to be a "female only/empowerment gaming conglomerate" or SteelSeries Bullyhunters™ all over again.

Former Congressional Candidate Brianna Wu Recalls GamerGate to Claim Harry Potter Author J.K. Rowling 'Is Not Harassed'
A month has passed and Wu is back again

The chans are still churning.

NGL, with how it sounds, it does come off as ridiculous. INB4 GamerGate on both pro and anti sides were all really some shadow war between government agencies or something while on the public surface it looked like ethics in video game journalism and harassment and whatever else it had slapped on to it.

I would definitely believe that there was some sort of govt/deep state push to censor GG because of the usual reasons. There's some evidence that the whole event was sparked by the people who created Common Core. However, I seriously doubt that everyone involved with anti-GG was being paid by them.

Although it is definitely possible, especially considering how Antifa and BLM have been funded and enabled by less-than-scrupulous officials and/or rich influencers (not the internet type). However, I doubt that all of them were. Some of the journos most likely were.

I think it's high time for a resurgance.

Are people ok? #Cyberpunk2077 pic.twitter.com/unuvOMc0EE

— Dank Meme (@DankMemes1126) December 9, 2020

Okay, turns out it was an edit of something, but seriously, how could anyone tell?
It's just a little more honest than what we usually see, which does pop up from time to time.

I think this justifies legal action from CDPR. It is damaging to their image.

Aside from CDPR having a Bethesda moment. I just find it entertaining to see game journalist's side

Oh and GOG deciding to bend the knee for CCP, concluding that CDPR pretty much destroyed their remaining good reputation in less than a week

The later is the most damaging in my opinion. I mean. Compared to Bethesda, this is their first miss, and was mostly affecting console gaming. But bending the knee to the horrible empire that brought us a new plague is pretty much a dumb idea. I guess I won't be buying Cyberpunk 2077 until it is on such a discount it will be a steal.

On the note of CDPR, they are apparently only allowing their own footage for anyone's reviews or discussions of the game. People and companies are not allowed to use their own footage. This really says a lot about the lack of freedom regarding the reporting of the game and what CDPR thinks of their "finished" game. As for the first link, their reaction to rhetoric that sounds like "pro-GG talk" is something we have all come to expect. I remember the Cuphead stuff from a few years ago with viewers criticizing Dean Takahashi's lack of skill and some idiots just blabbed on about "GG this" and "GG that".

The second link is about a game from Taiwan called Devotion being blacklisted, essentially. It apparently had some subtle anti-CCP messages and you can fill in the blanks from there. From what I've read about censorship involving China and companies with investors from China, I believe the Chinese government is influencing this, giving themselves "soft power" essentially. They basically try to influence things that are not based out of China. I wonder if people will try sanctions on Chinese companies or prevent investing from China just so that the country can't force people and companies to restrict themselves.

Popular tweet going on claiming that GG is an alt-right, nazis, white supremacists group, that put Trump into office and caused COVID 19 apparently.


Happy New Year everyone

https://youtu.be/7wEMnVpvEKE

The point is that GG is still being used as something to blame, 4 years ago anti-GGers claimed that Gamergate put Trump into office, now they claim Gamergate is the cause of COVID-19.

I do remember that GG was initially made to call out media bias and bullshit, but hey, anti-GG tends to twist words that fits in their views.

The Anita we now know still havent changed a bit as she complains about boob armour like she's in 2012, of course she gets more backlash than before last year. She's a walking clown now.

There's no evidence that it's related to Trump or even COVID-19. The GG movement died for half of year after it started and the rest stayed in r/KIA or whatever the place i dont know, r/kia2 is on its own since it isnt even similar to r/KIA anymore. I did said earlier i want the movement to end but leave threads open on for archival purposes incase someone like the person in tweet makes baseless claims and got thousands of likes.
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Again, Happy New Year. I hope yall be safe in 2021

Not surprising that people like them will bring down the "there wasn't a review" rejoinder even though I noticed few people who really believed it, and everyone moved on to alleged bad journalism.

I've thought about the "GG elected Trump" and I don't think it's just because some supporters of GG also supported Trump or because they see GG and Trump and "really awful and bigoted". They see these two groups as: "these people feel they're being increasingly marginalized so they will do all kinds of backwards things to resurrect a bunch of bigoted stuff from the past". I don't think it's just a "well, I hate these two groups equally and will conflate them together". I think they really see us and Trump as practically the same thing.

Recent years have shown just how dangerous mainstream media's one-sided coverage of stories can be. If all sides of the story are not heard, it creates anger, resentment, frustration, and distrust towards mainstream media by those who felt their viewpoint was not treated fairly.

Treating fairly doesn't just mean covering all sides of the arguments but also not strawmanning them and actually covering their viewpoints (instead of misinterpreting and distorting them, or covering them on a superficial level).

People who have lost faith in mainstream media are much more likely to stick to niche and/or fringe news sources. While many of them are legitimate and do their earnest to cover topics, there are also sources who seek to exploit the frustrated groups of people, often doing the same as mainstream media, covering only one side of the conflict.

This, in turn, can make mainstream media ridicule those sources as well, creating further resentment. Meaning they continue doing the thing that caused people to lose trust towards them in the first place.

All of which creates more and more echo chambers, whether by mainstream media or niche media. It doesn't help that a lot of them don't want a debate, in case it turns out ugly. This is further amplified by many news sites removing or overmoderating comments sections – a place where debate (or even fact correction) can happen.

Correction: a place where debate should be allowed to happen.

I don't know if this belongs in the thread or should be in it's own thread, but however I did want to share it.
Top Hat Studios has been targeted by the outrage mob on Twitter with their newest Nintendo Switch game coming out A Cyberpunk Ghost Story.
The thread of the game that many of the Twitter mob attacked the game

Tweet from Top Hat Studios

It's a pretty nice way to start off the new year seeing a company actually put the outrage Twitter mob in their place.

This probably should be in its own thread, though we have discussed stuff like this before and some people might try to justify talking about it.

The replies to the NintendoLife tweet are filled with same cliches of "where are her organs", or how it's "violence", "misogynist", etc. Some of the accounts strike me as being bots, but some of them may be real, I suppose. The worst ones are the kind that say the designer never saw a real woman, implying that they are losers. There's a really dumb comment that pretty much says it causes sexual assault, in so many words. I am not even making that up.

The response is pretty predictable, but many are disagreeing with that backlash. The Top Hat Studios tweets responds to all those stupid comments and has a universally positive response. Many people are saying they'll buy it just because of the backlash.

We've heard this song before, but it is nice that thay are standing up right now and not doing the apologizing crap.

Still got it.

Im actually fascinated the amount of people will go such lengths to make false statements and slander the devs over a game which have tits that is slightly bigger than the average size.

Already theres this anti-porn radfem, who's also a TERF by looking at her tweets, went on hate it. And theres the former Rock Paper Shotgun (Dominic Tarason) person spreading lies.

I know Top Hat posted a whole bunch of screenshots of the threats they received, but are there any archives of those tweets floating out there? I know Top Hat doesn't wanna name names (assuming they're aware of internet archive services), but these people are the type to gaslight and say stuff like "those threats are made up".

This is far from over, right?

At this point I'm even tired. Well. I like the people here, except for that guy who basically wants to impose his utopia and supports making GG a boogeyman.

Well. Maybe he is not mistaken. We were the first to resist out of the political sphere. When they tried to do upon video games what they did to all other entertainment, we said "Enough!" and pushed back.

That led to more people starting to push back, and those in political spheres started to prove there was a silent mass which didn't like those authoritarian utipias.

GG wasn't the primary cause. It was the beginning of the end. The beginning of people starting to say "You won't force your views upon me."

And if we don't win, we'll lose everything. They will stop at nothing, they will destroy everything, and they will change the rules so only they can win, just like how they've been manipulating language and warping the definitions of words and far worse.

I hate to sound extreme, but anything and everything they're about must be struck down. In entertainment, in the political spheres, in society, everything. It's not just about games and entertainment anymore. It's about survival. It's about keeping things spinning. If we lose now, we'll never recover.

Sorry, I'm tired and stuff is running through my head. Sick of being constantly lied to.

I can't disagree with you. This mess has been going since the second half of the 19th century, and it has resulted in a disaster.

The rabbit hole goes so deep, and they're not even good at hiding their lies. In fact the reason they didn't bother censoring on a global scale, and why we are able to compare with other nations, is because they didn't prepare for the internet.

That's why they are so desperate for making their lies global now.

But Japan remains an example of what happens when that ideology is not as effective at infecting.

Yes. They keep twisting facts. Yes. They keep spreading lies and propaganda through media. But there's evidence of their lies.

Hate to be the devil's advocate, but wouldn't 'stopping at nothing' to 'strike everything and anything they're about' make them 'lose everything'? 'They' aren't some race of cave-dwelling goblins, they're also humans with equivalent value to you, even if they're really annoying and misguided. You can only increase the division that way.

It's more of an interchangeable parts race at this point. Charlatanism vs provable skepticism.

A "good idea" comes along based on what is felt right despite facts. Someone comes along and turns it in full blast to make a profit or start a discussion. Some get taken for the ride, others begrudgingly accept, most wish to be bothered/haven't been informed, others begrudgingly deny, and some dig deeper, find the fallacy and seek to inform of the truth that shows the charade at play.

Unfortunately, it becomes faith vs fact at that point, and you end up with Zealotry on both sides. With both fractions becoming polarized.

However, while the people on both sides are mortal and can fatigue out due to time, the game doesn't and sparks anew. Shambling on the corpse of the topic.

#Gamergate might as well be [Current Year] 's church of Satanism now. As long as they keep relabeling it as the source of sin/whatever problem is going on, it's going to be constantly viewed as their neckbeared, basement dwelling, fedora tipping, mountain dew drinking, dorito munching kabal of isis hitler's that secretly voted for a democratic socialist, then a president to eliminate the poor/elderly/minority masses with pandemic.

TL:DR; #Gamergate is depicted as Feminism's Patriarchy, Race Theory's White Privilege, and the Media's [Current Year] source of problems. As long as its mentioned as the boogyman it will exist.

Edit to avoid double post:

Looks like the movie is still ongoing. And looks to be comprised of telephone

"1up stars Vivian Lee played by Elliot Paige (Juno). Where she/they set up an all female professional esports team lead by a team captain in the wake of her own gamergate scandal…" (My summary)

This is gonna be another SVU all over again.