I'm of the opinion that the mafia/infiltrators already have an advantage: they know up front who the villagers are but that doesn't work in reverse. But I've already casted that vote.

And thanks for putting this all together, Slappy.

Did everyone get an inbox message?

Anyone who didn't get a PM is a villager. So that means you're a villager (unless you were checking on others' behalf.)

Role Randomization is now in Process, if you do not receive a PM within the next half hour, then you are a Villager (Mafia, w/e)

Given the results from the Strawpoll, It is clear that the players want some more Infiltrators as well as a special for their side.

Therefore, the current Infiltrator Count will be increased to 7. In addition, I am implementing a new (but old) Infiltrator-based special into the mix…

The Mole

This guy's decided to join forces with the Infiltrators in bringing down the mafia empire. Why, you might ask? Nobody knows for sure. Some say it was for money. Some say it was for power. Some even say that he just wants to watch the world burn…

This role functions in the same fashion as The Don (PM me a person you want to investigate,) only he will be able to relay this information with the Infiltrators for the purpose of guiding elimination decisions and whatnot.

Keep in mind that The Mole, while sided with the Infiltrators, isn't one himself. What this means is that his death is not necessary for the Mafia/Villagers to win, nor does he count for the Infiltrator's Win condition (Mafia/Villagers < Infiltrators).

TL;DR: Investigate people, tell Infiltrators, if they win, you win, vice versa.

Hopefully this brings some satisfaction among the playerbase and leads to a fun game.

P.S. I've been thinking the game take place during the 1930's in Chicago or some other major American city back then. Any thought/objections?

P.P.S. Additional roles are now being selected and the Night Phase has been reset.
48 hours remain

I updated the thread so that your OP post can now be edited Slappy, so whenever you're changing stuff you can also add it there to be save (I would still make a new post too because who reads the OP post each time?).

Thank you for the notification regarding the OP post.

Role Randomizations have now been concluded and PMs have been sent

New Mole role. I like it.

Now, as all the roles have been given out, will we post something like character backstories?

I and several others barely care about the "character" we are, we only care about the role we have so that we know how to play the game.

You're free to make one I guess, but it's up others on who will join you.

Well, a little RP can't hurt but if that is so, we don't really need backstories then.

mmmm yeah. Pretty much this. Please just let this game be a game.

Alright people, here we go~

Chicago, April 28, 1931

It was supposed to be a night like any other for the Cacciatore family: meetings, business, all that boring stuff, followed by some great partying. As the air filled with gunshots, however, it quickly became knowledge that things weren’t going to be the same for a while.

As we filed into the hall where things took place, it became apparent that some punks broke into the ranks and wrote one of our guys an obituary. Who exactly was behind this – and if they’re still here – is yet to be determined, but from the looks of things, they wanted to send a message to the top.

It took a bit to sort things out, but in the end, the body was identified as that of Blue Screen of Death “Bible Thump” Montana, The Don’s Right-hand Man. Real shame too; he was a nice guy and all, although a little preachy. He will be missed greatly.

In the meantime, we’ve got a bunch of hotheads looking for answers down here, so let’s pick up on that action

Day Phase, 48 hours remain

P.S. Don’t forget to bold the name of the person you wish to cast your vote for elimination

Alive: 28
Dead: 1

Alive:
Le Choco Taco
Muffinlicious
Captain Yoshikage J Kira
Mr. Stalker
CrowTheMagician
HolyCrapItsBob
Mandl Brought
Weasel
Markhaox14
Madcat
Greninja
Dr. Robotnik
GaryTheStormtrooper
Chowzburgerz
Verbose
Kebab Removal Unit
Alex Mercer
Algernon
Third Creature of Fire
Laika Law
Mike
A stick made of fish
RandomMan
Disturbed Bait
Hoovy The Great Hat Vendor
Ray Cyst
Level4outbreak
MedleyManiac

Dead:
Blue Screen of Death (Investigator)

Special Roles:

Infiltrators (Mafia/Werewolves): 7 Alive
Mafia (Villagers (Everyone else)): 17 Alive

The Mole: Alive
The Don (Sheriff): Alive
Patches (The Doctor): Alive
Lefty & Righty (The Investigators): Lefty = Alive & Righty = Dead (Blue Screen of Death)

A special role gone on the first night, oh how this takes me back to past games.

Alrighty. Let's get started. Obviously, the first person we need to vote for would be the first to get rid of BSoD. This could be because they both played in past games and thought he had some skill, or just thought that he would be good in this particular game.

Slappy, if the Don identified someone as a mafia member, can they PM that person so they can lead the Mafia during day?

Well I'm not entirely sure why they would want to do that. but I believe I covered that within the OP under Rule 3

Edit:
3) Off-the-record activities (such as PMs between users) are allowed and encouraged, as long as they remain as such. I’ve seen more than enough of these get ruined through people bluffing each other out.

Alright, so, the game's begun. Let's hope my worth hasn't rusted with age. Haha.

Right off the bat, I'll note that Blue was killed.

Blue = first innocent kill

Madcat believes that the users who voted out Blue were familiar with his level of skill in past games. I'd argue that this isn't the case as there are far better choices to make in that case. (Haha)

I'm going to bring in a few of my thoughts about this. I ask you all to consider.

No, I'd say that Blue as first choice was more likely because of his level of popularity on these forums. Now, you might recall that the two most popular mods on this site are Blue and RM. Being as RM was not chosen, we can conclude that these users favor Blue overall. So, I'd suggest we dig through some history in order to find evidence of favoritism. As of right now, that seems to be the best course of action (provided favoritism was indeed to blame for this choice).

Let's take a step back now. That previous section relied heavily on the idea that favorites were picked. Let's look at it from the other side. No favorites, just users.

If this is the case, then there must be a reason that Blue was chosen. The users in question must have had a reason to want Blue out of the game. Perhaps Blue has had an unpleasant run in with (at least) one influential member of the mafia (wait, mafia are bad guys in this game, right?). Personally, I wouldn't think that's the case, Blue does his best to make sure all users are happy (including things mods would usually halt).

Let's say we excluded the ideas that it was partiality or malice. The only other reason I could think of then would have to be respect. Either all or at least one authoritative member considers Blue to be a threat because of some form of perceived intelligence. In other words, the mafia (or whatever we're calling them) believes Blue would find them out quickly and so they got rid of him.

That wraps up my chain of fleshed out thoughts. I've still got plenty links being chained, so I'll share as they develop.

As for the conclusion…

These are all rookie mistakes, really.

More experienced users know:

• that there are far greater threats in this game
• to never bring an outside grudge into the game
• to never pick favorites

and most importantly

• how to play the players

I'd like to bring special attention to that last bullet. Suppose it is an experienced user. This entire post has assumed that Blue's death was the choice of a rookie. Let's imagine for a second that this isn't the case. If that were the case, then we would have to follow a whole different train of thought. I'll make a follow up post on all of that (eventually, haha).

Wait, so am I playing or not? I did say I wanted to play before Slappy closed registrations, but it was the post right before and I'm not included in the roster.

Well it looks to me that RandomMan included you in the alive/dead counter, but he copied the list i provided earlier. Therefore, I'd say you are playing.

On a sidenote, hate to be rude, but so far for our vote voting phase we've had …3? people contributing to the process within 9 hours.

I understand that people have busy lives as well as all the timezones and stuff, and that there tends to be a lot of pressure when it comes to casting votes or even nominating a player. In the future, however, I'd like to see a bit more motivation and daring among the player-base.

It's the first day, noone would have any real leads at this point. Just take a shot in the dark, you're bound to hit something~

Wait, how long do we have in this phase? Also, if people don't respond, start booting them. This was already a huge issue in the previous incarnations of this game.

Well considering the Day Phase started about 9-10 hours ago, and I gave a base time period of 48 hours, I would have to say that there's around 39 hours left in this phase, although I may extend it if things are still stale.

Also in regards to kicking inactive players, I'm willing to do that, but I'd like some suggestions in regards to how long I should be giving people before I kick them. I was thinking two complete phases, but that might be a little harsh.

In the mean time, to all you people out there that are currently participating, when/if you post, please tick that little box down there that says subscribe (and then keep an eye on the e-mail you used to register with.) It'll keep you up-to-date on who's been posting and remind you if you happen to forget. When the game's over you can easily unsubscribe by going to your user profile and selecting 'Subscriptions'

Edit: It may be common knowledge, but please post in the forum when you are doing Day Phase voting.

Well, if you want my input. I say go for one phase. It's a few seconds out of your day to say 'I vote ____'. If you can't sacrifice ten seconds then I don't think you really care for the game.

Alright, now that I know I'm in the game, I think madcat is an infiltrator just because of his post on the first page about giving infiltrators more of a fair game and how quick he was to respond. Those are pretty shit reasons I know, but I'm just going off what I can. This game is a lot harder when you can't see people faces.

And based off what Bob said earlier, I also feel that RM is an infiltrator. I don't know, I just feel like he should have been the first one killed based on that logic. Or perhaps he will be killed tonight?

But of course, my suspicion probably lies with these two because they've been posting and I haven't been seeing the behavior of the other players.

Alright, finally I'm back from work. I can get started on this game I haven't played in months and really enjoyed playing with ever-…

….

…sigh

I should have known

BSOD is ded
what now

Edited in MedleyManiac to the list I posted earlier (Lol, power aboos). Sorry for forgetting, I just copied Slappy's earlier list.

I might be messing up the position of the mafia in this game, something to keep in mind. All past games had mafia as the bad guys, so suddenly having mafia the villagers might confuse me.

@Slappy

I'd say either 2 or 3 complete phases (so day+night) should do the trick.

I agree with Bob that making a post in a timespam of 96 hours takes little effort, but after one complete phase is a bit harsh imo. You can't really do much during a night phase other than waiting.

@MedleyManiac

I have a history of activity with these games, so having me post in a mafia game holds no evidence.

But you're a rookie in these games, so likewise your train of thoughts isn't really solid evidence either (yet).

@Bob

If this was a case of favoritism, killing off Blue actually makes no sense.

A true act of favoritism in these games would be keeping the users you like alive, not killing them. If they're infiltrators who work by favoritism, they would instead want their favorite users have the most fun, and the most fun in a mafia game is gotten from being alive.

Then again, I have been teamed up with worse tacticians in the past in these games.

@Blue

Anything you can make up out of their reason for picking you? You're now a confirmed non-infiltrator, so share something.

@Kebab

In this state, voting.

@Slappy

Considering that you said votes have to be made in Bold, I believe nobody has voted yet.

That said, in this state all votes are likely random, and you want to keep away from killing off the good players under the risk that having them being someone else than infiltrators would become a huge disadvantage towards the Villagers.

So I'm running with Third Creature of Fire as my vote.

Nothing personal man, but you're a Gold Member amongst a list of active users, therefore you statistically hold the least amount of risks in this state.

Current votes:
Le Choco Taco
Muffinlicious
Captain Yoshikage J Kira
Mr. Stalker
CrowTheMagician
HolyCrapItsBob
Mandl Brought
Weasel
Markhaox14
Madcat
Greninja
Dr. Robotnik
GaryTheStormtrooper
Chowzburgerz
Verbose
Kebab Removal Unit
Alex Mercer
Algernon
Third Creature of Fire(1)
Laika Law
Mike
A stick made of fish
RandomMan
Disturbed Bait
Hoovy The Great Hat Vendor(1)
Ray Cyst
Level4outbreak
MedleyManiac

Fuck it, i'll go with Hoovy The Great Hat Vendor.

Eh, I dunno, but I think i'm gonna stick with RandomMan on this one.
Third Creature of Fire.

@Random
Well, what I meant by you posting is that there were very few people posting, so you two were really the only people who I got to actually see behave in the game. The other was Bob, but I don't suspect him for some odd reason as of now.

I also think Bob's thinking is right. The Mole (I believe the mole was behind this since Blue was Righty) was probably like "Gee, who should I find out about?" and went with whoever came to mind. The more popular users would be the first to come to mind to research because it doesn't really matter what order you do search them in anyway (since the roles were given randomly).

Still reserving me vote until more people post.

@details regarding my death

Well, either I'm too famous or too infamous, I can say that much.

Despite being an investigator, I have not received any hints from the GM. If I did, I would have informed you.

I don't think I was killed off under the premise of being too smart to let live. But I am known for being an active participant and voter. And smart killers don't like active voters. I think these killers are familiar with this game and the participants. I know them to a degree and they know me

Or they are a bunch of rookies just obliviously going after the most obvious person

The next death will quite clearly indicate which one we are dealing with

I know who the other investigator is. I wish I could tell you so you don't lynch him. But I must protect his identity.

If I were to vote however, I'd follow Randommans vote in this one.

The motive for killing off Blue is probably just that he's a strong and intelligent player. For that reason, I'm starting to suspect that Bob is guilty. Anyone with any experience of past games should know to kill Bob first.

Madcat believes that the users who voted out Blue were familiar with his level of skill in past games. I’d argue that this isn’t the case as there are far better choices to make in that case. (Haha)

Perhaps the reason they didn't go for the 'better choice' is that the better choice is one of them?

To conclude, I vote chowzburgerz

Sorry man. I've got a hunch about Bob, but nothing solid. If I'm wrong, we could lose a really valuable player. I let a random number generator decide my vote.

So 2 votes against me, hm? We'll see how this turns out.
I also have got no idea who to vote for, at this stage it is really just throwing wild guesses. I'll hold off on that for a little.

So the glitched pony was the first person to go. I have a gut feeling that's telling me that the mods here aren't to be trusted even though one of their own was killed (maybe betrayal was afoot in their ranks).

I still haven't decided who I should vote for yet since my theory of the mods being infiltrators is still a theory.

I have a hunch it's Bob. Just a hunch but hey. I'll wait it out, since we have a lot of time left.

> Dude died
> Nothing, dude died.

Since all I can do is throw my vote and hope it's right, I'll skip.

It's difficult to figure out anything when you're this early in the game. Part of me says that i should wait until i can figure out a bit more, but the rest of me says that i should shoot the silhouette in the distance and hope it's a bad guy. I'm gonna take a chance and vote for Le Choco Taco.
Sorry, Taco.

It's too early for me to fire off educated votes, aimless ones will have to do for now.

I vote Chowzburgerz

I'll go with Hoovy The Great Hat Vendor too, no particular reason, as it's still early in the game, and there aren't too many clues.

Oh what the hell, I'll just spray and pray.
> Random.org
> Dice Roller

1 = Mr.Stalker
2 = CrowTheMagician
3 = markhaox14
4 = Greninja
5 = Dr. Robotnik
6 = Verbose

I vote markhaox14.

Like someone said earlier, all guesses right now. Think I'll go mobs mentality with this one.

I vote for Third Creature of Fire.

Updated votes:
Le Choco Taco(1)
Muffinlicious
Captain Yoshikage J Kira
Mr. Stalker
CrowTheMagician
HolyCrapItsBob
Mandl Brought
Weasel
Markhaox14
Madcat
Greninja
Dr. Robotnik
GaryTheStormtrooper
Chowzburgerz(2)
Verbose
Kebab Removal Unit
Alex Mercer
Algernon
Third Creature of Fire(3)
Laika Law
Mike
A stick made of fish
RandomMan
Disturbed Bait
Hoovy The Great Hat Vendor(2)
Ray Cyst
Level4outbreak
MedleyManiac

I vote Ray Cyst. Just a shot in the dark really.

Oh its begun. What fun this shall be. And a lot of reading too. So just casting votes, Ill go along with my teammates and get the weaker ones out. Third Creature of Fire. Bang bang.

I'm honestly surprised nobody has suggested setting up a tie between votes. RM is usually all over that idea.

I'm throwing my vote for chowz.

I'll jump in on that chowzburgerz band wagon, too.

Why do people hate me?

Vote ties are only worth analyzing when the infiltrator votes don't count towards the total.

In these games however, they do. A vote tie would therefore achieve nothing, making it more beneficial to let everyone vote on who they wish so that it can be analyzed.

I vote RandomMan, because at this stage in the game it's hard to know whether or not anyone is good.

Day Phase is now over as the time limit has passed and voting is closed.

Votes are being tallied and a 'winner' will be decided shortly

Sorry! I really did use a random number generator. Not sure why everyone else jumped on the bandwagon.

Well sorry for the delay, I wanted to account for any possible swings in voting.

April 28, 1931

Things didn’t seem to be going too well down here, especially when it came to seeing who to pin the blame of the recent murder of Blue. Lots of words, fingers, (and a few unmentionables) were flung about, but in the end we were just spinning our wheels. We eventually managed to bring things down to two guys, Chow “Z” Bergerzi and Johnny “The Third” del Fuego, but we couldn’t quite decide without some real proof, so someone suggested we either kill them both, or have them fight each other to the death.

Considering the bloodthirsty atmosphere that had been garnering in the room, it wasn’t too big a surprise that most of us chose the latter. As such, we gathered into a ring around the two guys and made them slug it out. It was some great fun, I’d have to admit, but at one point, Johnny got knocked down and – wouldn’t you know it – an empty bullet casing rolled out of his jacket pocket. The room went deathly silent, followed by Johnny stammering that he could explain. A shot to the head from The Don, however, quickly let him know that nobody got time for that.

After an analysis of the body of the recently deceased, it became apparent that nobody had actually met this guy before. As this realization became clear, The Don started issuing orders among his men to block off all the entry points to their hideout; until further notice, nobody was going to be leaving the premises.

Night Phase, 48 Hours Remain

(TL;DR: Third Creature of Fire has been killed, he was an Infiltrator)