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Also it took me awhile to know they don't have ears.
Wow we actually got a good amount of information from this episode. I really wanna see what the other Pearls on homeworld are like. Do they all have the same voice? Do they look exactly the same or do their bodies/faces vary slightly? What purpose do all the other gem types serve? So many questions were answered but so many more took their place.
I'm pretty sure Pearl "belonged" to Rose before they rebelled against homeworld. I keep thinking about how in Rose's Scabbard the Rose hologram caller her "my Pearl". Sooooo many headcanons
Great Episode overall. Once again going over my expectations. A lot of people already had that headcanon/theory about the multiple gems of a kind, but it seems it's finally confirmed.
This one is going more into theory territory, but the way Peridot sayed "A Peridot with a Pearl, what would they say back home?" seemed to imply that Pearls are servants of some kind of high class, like she is definitely above Pearls in homeworld hierarchy but her position is still not high enough to possibly "own" a Pearl herself. It would explain why the firsts things she said about pearls described then more as accessories than servants.
The great surprise would be in the fact that pearls impressive knowledge and mechanic ability are developed skills instead of part of innate to her kind of Gem. It definitely shows that she definitely is way more strong willed and independent that we gave her credit for, at least towards some things.
Now that we have the confirmation, we can draw some conclusions about the role that plays every gem on homeworld: Pearls are servants (but if i'm right, only for high rank gems), Peridot's are technicians (so they aren't a replacement for Pearls after all), amethysts are basic grunts, cannon fodder (it would also explain why all the holes in earth's kindergarten look the same: Only amethysts were made there), and Jaspers are more likely soldiers, but of a higher rank. I'm very curious about what roles would the other shown gems play, though.
And I would definitely consider this a Pearl episode rather than a Peridot one, but about Peridot this episode has two relevant things: 1)It shows that she is still quite a way from being truly redeemed and/or actually becoming a Crystal Gem but 2)She definitely is steadily making progress toward that. Notice how she decided to apologize despite not being outright told to or even being told what she did wrong, Sure, you can say she figured out from the way the others acted, but that would be exactly the point.
I have the feeling that for next week episode they might actually let the Dorito rest. The reason will be that while the plot develops, Pearl and Peridot will be working on the drill off-screen. Not that I get tired of her or anything.
P. D: My only question about this episode, why was pearl so embarrassed about Steven knowing that there are hundreds of Pearls?
Tentacles wrote:
Great Episode overall. Once again going over my expectations. A lot of people already had that headcanon/theory about the multiple gems of a kind, but it seems it's finally confirmed.
This one is going more into theory territory, but the way Peridot sayed "A Peridot with a Pearl, what would they say back home?" seemed to imply that Pearls are servants of some kind of high class, like she is definitely above Pearls in homeworld hierarchy but her position is still not high enough to possibly "own" a Pearl herself. It would explain why the firsts things she said about pearls described then more as accessories than servants.
The great surprise would be in the fact that pearls impressive knowledge and mechanic ability are developed skills instead of part of innate to her kind of Gem. It definitely shows that she definitely is way more strong willed and independent that we gave her credit for, at least towards some things.
Now that we have the confirmation, we can draw some conclusions about the role that plays every gem on homeworld: Pearls are servants (but if i'm right, only for high rank gems), Peridot's are technicians (so they aren't a replacement for Pearls after all), amethysts are basic grunts, cannon fodder (it would also explain why all the holes in earth's kindergarten look the same: Only amethysts were made there), and Jaspers are more likely soldiers, but of a higher rank. I'm very curious about what roles would the other shown gems play, though.
And I would definitely consider this a Pearl episode rather than a Peridot one, but about Peridot this episode has two relevant things: 1)It shows that she is still quite a way from being truly redeemed and/or actually becoming a Crystal Gem but 2)She definitely is steadily making progress toward that. Notice how she decided to apologize despite not being outright told to or even being told what she did wrong, Sure, you can say she figured out from the way the others acted, but that would be exactly the point.
I have the feeling that for next week episode they might actually let the Dorito rest. The reason will be that while the plot develops, Pearl and Peridot will be working on the drill off-screen. Not that I get tired of her or anything.
P. D: My only question about this episode, why was pearl so embarrassed about Steven knowing that there are hundreds of Pearls?
I feel the gems purposefully hid the whole "multiple gems" thing from Steven for various reasons we don't entirely know yet. In the case of Pearl I imagine she was a) ashamed at having this secret so nonchalantly revealed to Steven, b) feeling humiliated from having someone that looks up to her see her get treated literally like an object, and c) wished to keep her "true purpose" a secret because she didn't want Steven to know that he descended from a race that is actively treating gems like that. We learned before that the gems don't want Steven to see them or his heritage in a bad light, and so they end up hiding a fuck ton of stuff from him
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This is going down as one of my most liked episodes. Character chemistry, humor, action, plot AND lore tightly packed in 11-minutes, this episode has it all did anyone else 'ooo'-ed when Pearl punched Peridot? . I'm expecting the next episode to tone things down a bit because we got a lot from this episode. The whole drill thing to the center of the Earth has been done in the movie The core, and I'm thinking that just like in that movie, the crystal gems will start the drilling at the bottom of the ocean. That would be an opportune moment to throw Malachite into the mix. Lol what are the crystal gems going to do when they get there though.
MScratch wrote:
Not too much I can tell from the plot on this, besides that Peridot may be getting more and more human emotions now that Steven and Amethyst are interacting with her more. I'm sure that'll drop some new revelation about Garnet/ruby + sapphire, since we got a pearl bomb last episode.
MScratch wrote:
I really like how they actually are keeping her outside on a leash. Peridot's terminology for stuff is great, especially the "touch stumps" and "gravity connectors." I wonder if all of homeworld talks like that, or if it's just Peridot(s).
MScratch wrote:
Bahahahahaha!!! I can't believe they seriously put her on a leash! (which comes as specially weird since they just let her built a giant robot without taking any special precautions).
Ok, So I was wrong, Peridot is once again relevant to the episode.
24 hours later so I don't have to care about spoilers, I have to say this episode was great. I'm really glad I finished Gurren Lagann before I watched this episode, and I seriously wonder what kinda stuff Steven has seen to make him think that gigantic robots SHOULDN'T fight.
It was also great not only seeing Pearl go from "I'm just a Pearl…" to "I am a Pearl!", but it was also awesome to see her punch Peridot right in the face. 
Man, Pearl cold cocked that bitch, huh?
BTW. I always watch the episodes online because I live in south america and we are months away from officially getting the new episodes (and I prefer watching it on english anyway, better voice actors and much better songs). Most sites cut the ending, so I hadn't noticed but…
The clothes aren't on the temple anymore and there's no music? That's fucking ominous as foreshadowing goes.
It might be just that they are gonna be on the barn for a while (as far as we know, the barn might be far away enough that it's not practical to constantly come and go), but still, shit's ominous man.
Now I was thinking and realized two things about the show:
1)If you think about it, they originally sold us this show as fantasy, with magic and all that, but then they surprised us by switching gears and made it pretty much a science-fiction show with little fiction.
2)With the confirmation that there are more than one of every gem, do you think we are about to suddenly see a bunch of OCs that are the same kind of already shown gems? It would definitely help with creating lore friendly OCs if you ask me.
So I guess next week's episode is going to be the last one for the rest of the year.
… First Star vs the Forces of Evil goes on hiatus, and now this? My heart just can't take it, I think I might go mad this time
Guys, the new episode was shown at the New York Comic Con. Someone recorded it and uploaded it here: https://mega.nz/#!5EEFiaQB!Ay0foxVKFIK1CByormRXtdOCrI5AzvPdoTS-AhZUCVk
Peridot truly worst Gem.
Zaccharine wrote:
Guys, the new episode was shown at the New York Comic Con. Someone recorded it and uploaded it here: https://mega.nz/#!5EEFiaQB!Ay0foxVKFIK1CByormRXtdOCrI5AzvPdoTS-AhZUCVk
Peridot truly worst Gem.
Great, dodging this thread and the image gallery till thursday
No spoilers here, just gonna say that that was a really cute episode. and that i won'T BE ABLE TO SURVIVE ANOTHER HIATUS HNNNGH
Ryumaru Borike wrote:
Great, dodging this thread and the image gallery till thursday
Take me with you. And even if I ended up watching the leak, I'd still watch the official airing to support the creators.
Ok, so I decided to be a dirty thief and watch the episode early.
To put things as non-spoilery as possible, I have never been more angry at Peridot than I was at the start of this episode. I know we're supposed to be in the middle of a redemption arc, but the last couple of episodes' worth of character development have actually made her seem worse – which is not how this sort of thing usually works.
I find prejudice a character trait worth exploring, especially in the sense of eroding. Said prejudice and showing how its not easy to do. To me peridot isn't a bad character for her views. She's a product of her society, literally, and all her life she's been raised in this system, and now she's being forced to work with the ones she considered abominable before. If anything, these negative traits and qualities have made her a better and more interesting flawed character, not worse.
We should probably spoil these discussions until the episode comes out for real. – Platus
Black Graphic T wrote:
I find prejudice a character trait worth exploring, especially in the sense of eroding. Said prejudice and showing how its not easy to do. To me peridot isn't a bad character for her views. She's a product of her society, literally, and all her life she's been raised in this system, and now she's being forced to work with the ones she considered abominable before. If anything, these negative traits and qualities have made her a better and more interesting flawed character, not worse.
We should probably spoil these discussions until the episode comes out for real. – Platus
Well of course – I didn't mean to imply that this was poor writing or a bad decision on the creators' part. I'm mainly just describing my own emotional response to the character. What I meant was that usually it's easier to hate a character when you don't know much about them, since the lack of detail allows you to read your worst impression into them without attention to nuance. So often as you learn more about a character and they become more complex, blind anger is replaced with an appreciation of their complexity (whether or not this ultimately excuses their actions).
Learning more about Peridot so far has simply revealed more infuriating aspects of her that I hadn't seen before, which has negated the usual pattern. I can totally see how we're going to get more of that complexity later on, but in the mean time these episodes have been quite frustrating.
I mean, you saw what she said to Garnet at the start of the episode, right? The Ruby half of her must have been chomping at the bit to poof her again.
For reasons that will be clear to anyone who saw the leaked episode, varieties of quartz include:
-Pure quartz, sometimes called "clear" or "crystal" quartz or "rock crystal"
-Amethyst
-Citrine
-Rose quartz (duh)
-Smoky quartz
-Milky quartz
-Chalcedony
-Agate
-Onyx
-Jasper (also duh)
-Aventurine
-Tiger's Eye
-Prasiolite
-Rutilated quartz
-Carnelian
-Dumortierite quartz
Also worth noting: Prasiolite and Carnelian do not occur naturally, but must be created artificially. Perhaps we'll see some "augmented super soldier" gems from Homeworld with those names, made in a vat to be the best soldiers ever.
This is some baseless speculation, but I've been doing some thinking about the whole Malachite situation. How crazy would it be if the mission wasn't saving Lapis from Jasper, but saving a imprisoned and tortured Jasper from a now demented Lapis? With all the implications of good intentions becoming bad, the importance of mercy, and all thst jive.
Sometimes I wonder why I continue browsing /sug/. Then posts like this appear.
Platus wrote:
Ok, so I decided to be a dirty thief and watch the episode early.
To put things as non-spoilery as possible, I have never been more angry at Peridot than I was at the start of this episode. I know we're supposed to be in the middle of a redemption arc, but the last couple of episodes' worth of character development have actually made her seem worse – which is not how this sort of thing usually works.
At this rate, Peridot will probably rub off Garnet badly soon. My theory is that "Barn Mates" will be about her, without even trying. saying just the right words that make Ruby and Saphire unfuse (if only because Ruby's need to pummel her go way beyond Sapphire's attempts at holding back Ruby, if only for practical reasons). Regardless of the episode, sooner or later one will be about Peridot learning and assimilating what fusion means to Garnet (and the other CGs to a lesser degree) either by dealing closely with Garnet (or Ruby and Saphire) or by actually fusing herself for the first time.
I'm also guessing that when she learns to summon her weapon it will be something that she would have never learned to summon in homeworld, because it will be based on an emotion or concept that she only learned and became attached to on earth.
@Woskis
What the fuck man?
Ryumaru Borike wrote:
Great, dodging this thread and the image gallery till thursday
Tentacles wrote:
At this rate, Peridot will probably rub off Garnet badly soon. My theory is that "Barn Mates" will be about her, without even trying. saying just the right words that make Ruby and Saphire unfuse (if only because Ruby's need to pummel her go way beyond Sapphire's attempts at holding back Ruby, if only for practical reasons). Regardless of the episode, sooner or later one will be about Peridot learning and assimilating what fusion means to Garnet (and the other CGs to a lesser degree) either by dealing closely with Garnet (or Ruby and Saphire) or by actually fusing herself for the first time.
I'm also guessing that when she learns to summon her weapon it will be something that she would have never learned to summon in homeworld, because it will be based on an emotion or concept that she only learned and became attached to on earth.
@Woskis
What the fuck man?
Hey man, don't hate the messenger.
Well, the episode is officially out, and now I can understand what they are actually saying at all points. due to background noise I wasn't able to fully understand Peridot's reproduction of her log to Pearl; "But that doesn't explain the spontaneous singing, crying, singing while crying" very funny in a meta sense, but doesn't really make sense since no one has sung or cried on-screen since she "joined the party".
Ryumaru Borike wrote:
Calling it now
The "friend" in "When it Rains" is Peridot, experiencing her first Thunderstorm and mistaking it for an attack/the Cluster/ A Gem Weapon. Steven bonds with her enough that she agrees to help the CGs prepare for the cluster by helping them build robots in "Back to the Barn"
Let's see if I get it right.Also
Future Vision!
Forgot about this but I was 90% right, just replace robots with drill
This episode was actually a really good way to show us just how different Peridot and the rest of homeworld are from the CGs. Obviously status is a huge thing in their society, and it's a status given by birth (so to speak). I found it really cute that she was trying to buddy up with Amethyst, but at the same time it made me sad because we know she's doing it because Amethyst is technically the one with the "highest" status. Still, her log at the end of the episode was a really great scene.
We officially know that the war happened about 5500 years ago, and since Amethyst's hole was about 500 years newer than the others, that would make her about 5000 years old. Yay, timelines.
We also know that there are "newer" models of the incubation drills. This implies the practice is still being carried out on other planets and potentially on homeworld to this day. That's pretty freaky shit when you think about it.
And when applied to gems, they say "gemetics" instead of "genetics". That's fuckin amazing.
"How do you feel?"
"… Big"
Boom. One of the best lines from this show.
Tentacles wrote:
Well, the episode is officially out, and now I can understand what they are actually saying at all points. due to background noise I wasn't able to fully understand Peridot's reproduction of her log to Pearl; "But that doesn't explain the spontaneous singing, crying, singing while crying" very funny in a meta sense, but doesn't really make sense since no one has sung or cried on-screen since she "joined the party".
Steven told Peridot about it.
Tentacles wrote:
Well, the episode is officially out, and now I can understand what they are actually saying at all points. due to background noise I wasn't able to fully understand Peridot's reproduction of her log to Pearl; "But that doesn't explain the spontaneous singing, crying, singing while crying" very funny in a meta sense, but doesn't really make sense since no one has sung or cried on-screen since she "joined the party".
She does so offscreen. We obviously don't see 100% of what the Gems are doing. I bring up the "Three Earth Rotations since the collaborative." Back to the Barn is just "Day One"
Ok, so here's a cool thing I thought I'd share with you guys.
So you remember that training video that a younger Mr Smiley did for The Big Donut? You know, this one.
Well it turns out that it's based on an actual R&B training video that Wendy's put out, and which is exactly as hilarious and cringe-inducing as you'd expect.
Platus wrote:
Ok, so here's a cool thing I thought I'd share with you guys.
So you remember that training video that a younger Mr Smiley did for The Big Donut? You know, this one.
Well it turns out that it's based on an actual R&B training video that Wendy's put out, and which is exactly as hilarious and cringe-inducing as you'd expect.
Ah yes, I kinda already knew, I mean, not that it was based specifically on the Wendy's video since this is hardly the only cringeworthy musical training video out there, but I knew that the gag was a reference to that kind of videos existing in real life. Also:
Guys! You definitely should check out the wiki right now. I'm not going to say more than that.
Are we going to get weekly shorts now?
Noticed something small from the latest episode, the lighting style and hair position on Amethyst after Peridot saves her from the drill really makes her look like Rose, probably to cement the reveal that she's a type of quartz.
Ricenburg wrote:
Are we going to get weekly shorts now?
Can we expect to see the Hot Dog Duffel bag in an actual episode?
^ I'm actually kinda wondering if we're going to see the Slinker yet again in another episode. Because from the sound and looks of things in the short, the Slinker is already being taken care of.
I love how as time goes on Jasper's insults towards the crystal gems in "the Return" make more and more sense. We learned what she meant by calling Garnet a "shameless display" when we learned she was a fusion, we figured out Pearl was called "defective" because she fought and acted like an independent gem when she was meant to be an accessory (although we pretty much figured that out by the time it was officially revealed), and now we know Jasper called Amethyst and "overcooked runt" because she was in the ground to long and half the size she was supposed to be.
So regarding the whole zamii070 event, I think we all know about it. But since some people have sent messages or emails about it to Rebecca, do you guys think they'll cover this in a future episode, or at the very least the crew will talk about it?
^ I was wondering when the elephant in the room will come up. I think drama like this deserves a mention in the main SU page. Words from the staff will probably seal the deal and motivate me to put it in. I'm expecting the crew will at the very least tweet about it, kinda like how Burnett tweeted how some of the fans were being stupid by leaving bad reviews for the real life Keystone Motel.
Ricenburg wrote:
^ I was wondering when the elephant in the room will come up. I think drama like this deserves a mention in the main SU page. Words from the staff will probably seal the deal and motivate me to put it in. I'm expecting the crew will at the very least tweet about it, kinda like how Burnett tweeted how some of the fans were being stupid by leaving bad reviews for the real life Keystone Motel.
Well, I think it should be mentioned in the entry, but it may be a better idea to wait for this situation to calm down, or until the crew has made an official response.
Okay this is slightly off-topic, but I'm having a lot of trouble uploading an image to the SU gallery (a fan-comic stitched together with photojoiner.net to be exact) that exceeds the filesize limit by 0.2MB, anyone know how I can make the image smaller and decrease the filesize or something?
Zaccharine wrote:
So regarding the whole zamii070 event, I think we all know about it. But since some people have sent messages or emails about it to Rebecca, do you guys think they'll cover this in a future episode, or at the very least the crew will talk about it?
I missed the boat on this. What happened?
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