Forums / Media / Moving Images

Thoughts?

Well, I checked the reviews. Now, I haven't been keeping up with the latest news on this movie, but to be honest, I kind of expected this. It's basically just like Batman v. Superman. People hyped it up a lot, people were saying it was going to be the best thing, and it turns out, it got a lot of negativity. Suicide Squad was also hyped up so much, and take a look at the reviews. Very negative.

Rotten Tomatoes has a 35% rating currently…

Still better than BvS… which has a 27% rating… so not by much…

Let's face it, if DC keeps up with these overhyped movies, then the audience will catch on and all these movies will start failing… if it hasn't started already…

Honestly, idk if these are legit reviews or just anti-DC Cinematic Universe bias.

Either way, I'm still seeing this movie and making my own judgement.

I'm going to see it, but this is their last chance. If DC manages to screw up a premise this promising, I'm out.

You can't just hurl a story like Suicide Squad out there with 0 backstory and 0 set up. Because then you have to spend unnecessary screen time in explaining who people are, who they work for, and why they are doing this.

And now there's a petition to "shut down Rotten Tomatoes"

Jesus christ

Yeah, something like this really feels like it should have been a continuation of events set up in earlier films in the same universe.

Kind of like how in the MCU, you had Hulk, Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor each draw SHIELD's attention in their own films before they appeared together in the Avengers movie. You've got all the characters established already, so you don't have to waste much time getting into the action of the film. Suicide Squad should have been the reverse of this; each rogue appears in a movie battling against their associated hero, getting defeated, and being recruited by Waller in the stinger. You'd have Harley, Joker, and Killer Croc show up in a Batman movie, Boomerang in a Flash movie, and Enchantress in a Wonder Woman movie, and Suicide Squad would bring them all together without having to establish who they were within the movie. DC just tried pushing Suicide Squad out before it was due.

The "muddled plot, thinly written characters" part of the Rotten Tomatoes summary would seem to indicate that you're right.

So all those worries about them doing comedy reshoots to rake in the Deadpool bucks and cause an uneven tone and plot were true?

At this rate, DC's Cinematic Universe is going to crash faster than the CIA's plane.

I plan on seeing it. Unlike Ghostbusters, the trailers seem promesing. I'll reserve my judgement until then.

I'm kinda going in with a neutral standing whenever it does come out. Don't really mind if it's mediocre or not as long as there is one thing to take away from it.

That's what people have been screaming since Batman Vs Superman. Turning Superman's sequel into the fucking crossover nobody needed as only the second movie of the universe.

I'll watch as I always thought it will be: a mindless action flick.
But man, that petition. The salt is pouring out like no tomorrow.

I'm gonna still see it for myself since I am familiar with most of the characters in the movie so I'm someone who probably doesn't need much in the way of set-up, but I will admit Black Graphic T has a point about how Marvel did do a good job establishing their cinematic universe before doing Avengers, while DC does seem like they're sorta rushing things (Wonder Woman was in BvS but her movie's not coming out until next year, not to mention Justice League's coming out only months after Wonder Woman [though lets be honest here, with the damn Super Friends cartoon still looming over Aquaman's head among the general public, I can't see an standalone Aquaman movie happening UNLESS audiences take a liking to him in Justice League first]).

Damn I feel so smug and gloaty at the moment because of this but I'll hold it back. Like I said in an earlier thread I had 0 excitement for suicide squad. Ever since announcement I had no interest. It's as simple as DC's movie reputation being horrid. When I saw the trailers nothing changed. But then again I don't like any trailers I see really unless it's something I already know I'll like. Trailers are just horribly made in general in the industry I've become jaded to them there are like 3 or 4 formulas passed around and nothing else. But that's besides the point.

I'm not going to call myself neutral, I'm about as biased as the people signing that petition just on the other side of the fence. Even as a kid I only had a passing interest for DC and the movies for the past few years have basically killed my interest in it for entertainment that comes from that studio. Sure I always watch the movies because I'm that kind of person but I never have that much enjoyment from them even as a person who tends to enjoy shitty popcorn movies.

I wish I could just opt out of this one but I have a feeling I'll be seeing it especially since there are like ticket discounts over the summer. I wish I could be part of the people who kill this department so someone else can reboot DC and maybe make it good again but I don't think that'll be a problem, many others will do that for me I can be sure of that.

I was expecting it to be mediocre at best and the trailer wasn't reassuring. Also that Harley Quinn character looks annoying af.

I'm calling it here. By the end of the month this movie will be as divisive as BVS.

Damn dude. The DC cinematic universe can't get a break can it?

Alright, i'm gonna see it with my friends on Friday, I'll then comment my opinions on the film then.

But a few things. Firstly, comic book nerdiness stuff. The concept of a Suicide Squad movie, cool. The concept of the more New 52 Suicide Squad film, with worse characters and plots, terrible. When you have bad characters like Harley Quinn, Katana, Enchantress and the shitty version of El Diablo.

"B-bb-buh-but Spidey they trailers looked cool."

I don't get why people thought this. The trailers consisted of the tackiest use of Queen music, which is really hard to beat considering every advert ever that's used a Queen song. There was like 3 decent character designs (Deadshot, Captain Boomerang and Rick Flag, the easiest to pull off). I don't know why they went with a weird Batman R.I.P, New 52 and TDKR combination for the Joker. And Harley Quinn has topped the trampiness of the Arkham Asylum game. Every shot looked like it had this dull dark filter and not one joke was funny. Maybe that's just me.

The Casting

Another thing that put me off. I'll glance over a lot of the people cause i just simply don't know them. But first, Cara Delevingne, not seen her acting, but as someone who was primarily a model before (But in GTA V so that was cool), didn't seem like a lot going for her. Jai Courtney, a guy who i have only seen in awful movies like A Good Day to Die Hard, I Frankenstein and that Terminator film i will refuse to acknowledge. You also got the guy in the Robocop reboot. I've only seen Margot Robbie in Wolf of Wall Street, which she was decent. Will Smith seems like a miscast when you want a villain and Jared Leto who appeared for a short time to be the main redeemer, then had some of that cringey methods of acting that was publicised a while back, where he was being a nuisance because "that's what the Joker would do.".

Maybe the critics are wrong and i'll actually like parts and enjoy it like I did BvS. I just don't have high hopes.

Another thing killed by hype, when will it stop?

Also oh my god, people want to shut down a site that doesn't even review movies itself because actual reviewers think that the movie is bad. Stop with this nonsense please.

I can't tell if this is a minority opinion, but I've never liked Harley Quinn outside Batman TAS. To me, she only works in the context of that show. In particular, I don't like how she's been portrayed over the last ten years or so. It's like they took one of the most memorable characters from my childhood and put her in a series of stripper outfits.

I checked out the petition to shut down Rotten Tomatoes, and…

take what Dresden Codak Thinks with some grains of salt, but I have to agree with him on some of these, especially Harley at #1 "It’s becoming really depressing that things actual strippers wear would be more functional that what comic book protagonists have on their bodies." Harley was created for Batman TAS. While I can't comment on literally ever version of her outside of this, as I have not seen them all, I have to agree. Why do they keep feeling the need to redesign her? She was pretty much perfect there.

As for the movie, can't say I've seen it of course, and don't really plan on seeing it. Agreed that this should have been built up from prior something (TV show, films) but it's too late for that now. I still hope that the Wonder Woman film is good but that hope is slowly starting to fad.

Dang, I was kinda looking forward to a Supervillain Hardcore Henry-esque movie that says "fuck it, put on the music, lets bash some heads in".
I'll wait and see what general audiences think, and if the consensus is a dumb fun stupid action movie, maybe I'll see it

Looks like it. I'm more of a Marvel guy when it comes to superhero movies, but when I decide to see any movie I only occasionally look at the reviews of people paid to give their opinions on them (critics) and focus on what normal, everyday people like me thought of the movie because, ultimately, that's who movies are geared towards.

The petition bar is now full. Now let us see when nothing happens.

even if the movie turns out to be bad, I still have this to fall back to.

It may not be the best DC animated film, but it is still good.

WHAT A TWIST!!!

I WAS ONLY PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED!

I found this nugget of a comment on a negative review on rogerebert.com.

This critic really doesnt suprise me, she bashes every scifi/fantasy/comic book movie that has ever been made. In our fanboy/fangirl world she is the biggest racist on the planet. This critic is so biased its beyond thought at this point. Come here to review a movie and I get a review on music selections for each scene. What a travesty. I doubt this critic even watched this movie. Case in point she said Margot Robbie was terrible as harley when every other Critic said she was one of the standouts in the movie. "It massive, messy, and noisy. And it stinks", sounds like personal bias to me. Or could it be that silly statement shows the ineptness of this critics range of spectrum. Obviously this critic just doesnt get comic books or scifi. Wonder how she feels about classic scifi movies Blade Runner, Alien, 2001, etc…no wait those movies are beyond her. I wonder if this critic would even understand the NightFall storyline, oh thats right she doesnt know comics, scifi or WarCraft. In any case I assumed this website would trash this movie as they have a natural bias against comic book/scifi/fantasy movies. Its a shame too this website once stood for something, now well, just plain sad.
*Hey critic your statmenet about Adam Beach's power which you didnt know becasue obviously you didnt watch the movie, I'll give you a hint the power is in his name duh!"

Wow, look at all that salt, fine quality Himalayan Pink salt too. You don't really get this quality of salt unless you're reading game reviews.

OK after seeing it, I can say.

The critics are pretty accurate.

Pros:

+ Not grimdark, actually people seem to have fun
+ Boomerang is fun (Jai Courtney is for once not fucking completely terrible)
+ Deadshot, Will Smith sort of shakes off some of his Mr Nice Guy, but what makes the character is that his is the only backstory with some emotion
+ Amanda Waller, just a perfect fit for the role. Bad ass too
+ Batman makes a few cool appearances
+ Leto Joker has a moment or two
+ El Diablo is good in the first half

Cons

- Too many flashbacks, some of which are unesscary, too long or don't give enough context/information.
- Katana, like the comics is boring and still no one gives a fuck about her stop pushing her on us DC
- Rick Flag falls flat despite the effort in his backstory
- Killer Croc says nearly nothing and does nothing of importance
- Enchantress is shit
- Villain is poor and their goals are boring, they are also built up to be strong but defeated so easily
- Predictable/Cliche moments
- Cringey Dialogue
- Unfunny jokes (although others in the cinema laughed so might be me)
- Harley Quinn
- Harley Quinn
- Harley Quinn
- Harley Quinn, she's worse than Arkham Harley and as bad as comic book Harley. She's lolsorandumb look how crazy i am xDDDDD and just annoying
- Designs are shit
- Action is kinda boring
- Final fight is bad
- Weird editing and cuts
- The drab filter gets tiring and sometimes its so smokey you can't see shit

Overall rating 3.5/10

In comparison (I actually enjoyed it though) I give Batman vs Superman 6.5/10

May be worthy of an entry as an event though.

I enjoyed the movie but I didn't know much about the characters nor the plot.
Harley Quinn was sometimes annoying, that's true.
Will Smith was ok.
Leto was good.
Overall for someone who's a complete weeb (and could understood 80% of Katana's dialogue why) it was fine.

Just saw it today.

It was… alright I guess. I'd give it a C+/B-

I don't really feel like I wasted my money, but I can say that yeah Marvel is still better.

Saw it. The experience was…frustrating. I could tell there was a good movie buried under all those licensed songs and obnoxious neon text. The critics were absolutely correct about the tonal inconsistency, the first half-hour looking so silly compared to the rest of the movie. Suicide Squad absolutely screams for a director's cut. Not every flaw can be blamed on misguided editing though. There were just too many characters. Captain Boomerang, Katana, and Killer Croc barely did anything. El Diablo needed more screen time. Deadshot was portrayed as a killer with a heart of gold. With Will Smith playing him, I could buy the heart of gold part, but he just didn't seem like a killer. And I never bought that these people became friends, no matter how many times they told me. Then there's Harley and the Joker. Oh, Harley. What did they do to you? Yes, she uses some of Harley Quinn's calling cards: she has the silly voice and says "puddin". But she's not Harley Quinn. She's this weird stripper thing we're supposed to care about. The Joker is surprisingly uninteresting for a psychotic criminal mastermind. I know these are characters meant to be reinterpreted, but hyper-sexualized Harley Quinn and gangbanger Joker just weren't doing it for me. They didn't feel like re-interpretations of existing characters, but entirely new characters. Bad ones.

Yet, there were redeeming qualities. Amanda Waller's casting was perfect. Enchantress was a cool villain. El Diablo was genuinely interesting when he actually spoke. Will Smith is likable, even if that's kind of a problem at times. A bunch of times towards the middle, I actually had fun, so much so that I can call it a better movie than Batman v. Superman. Unfortunately, that's a pretty low bar. If Suicide Squad were re-cut for a special edition, it would be an alright movie. As is, it is slightly below average. While the criticism may have been hyperbole, it still has plenty of noticeable problems. Suicide Squad isn't bad enough for me to swear off DC movies, but I am going to be much more selective from here on out. Three movies with no home runs is a problem. Wonder Woman and Justice League need to get fantastic reviews or I won't be seeing them.