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Last posted Apr 11, 2016 at 08:09AM EDT. Added Mar 30, 2016 at 10:33AM EDT
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I get tired of "a good chunk of these people believe such and such" arguments really quickly. It's all about trying to get the other person to look bad rather then taking each individual point they present and examining its value.

Hey maybe instead of bitching about the racisms maybe we can take a look at all the arguments put forward regarding immigration and naturalization and see which parts hold up and which ones don't how does that sound

lisalombs wrote:

From what we've seen, a good chunk of the alt-left movement is highly authoritarian, strongly in favor of strong enforcement of moral code, and tend to outright ignore or not give a shit to Libertarian views on economics.

The alt-left thinks our currency is Christian indoctrination because of "In God We Trust", but the alt-left loves Muslim prayer rooms in public schools.

The alt-left took down Confederate flags, painted over murals, removed memorials, and renamed buildings to get away from their inherent racism, but the alt-left defends murals filled with La Raza propaganda in public high schools as free speech.

The alt-left thinks GamgerGate's color scheme is a rape joke, but the alt-left loves to advocate for pedophiles.

I could go on, if anyone else in this thread is still struggling with sweeping generalizations.

I hope it didn't imply that somehow that the alt-left movement is any better.
Communists and Fascists though on polar opposites of the political spectrum were still authoritarian in nature.

It's just amazing to see the same thing happening again.

The Alt-Right seems to be Meme ideology. They created the White-Genocide and Anti-Diversity copypasta and seems to be followed by teenagers on 4 and 8Chan.

Plus the articles you posted Lisa weren't Alt-Left events. They are more suitable if you labeled those events as the cause of NeoLiberalism, and not based on the principal sof Leftism.

lisalombs wrote:

Are you fucking thick, or are you just trying to be obnoxious?

No, I simply refuted your poor claims on the Left and confusing it with NeoLiberalism.

Plus, after research, it seems as if the Alt-Left are mainly leftists who are White Nationalists. None are your examples have proved that for instance.

unusedusername wrote:

The Alt-Right seems to be Meme ideology. They created the White-Genocide and Anti-Diversity copypasta and seems to be followed by teenagers on 4 and 8Chan.

Plus the articles you posted Lisa weren't Alt-Left events. They are more suitable if you labeled those events as the cause of NeoLiberalism, and not based on the principal sof Leftism.

"NeoLiberalism"

Pretty sure you used that word wrong. From my understanding, Neo-Liberalism refers to the late 20th and early 21st century resurgence of 19th century laissez-faire economic theories primarily in the Anglosphere, but also in parts of Europe.

ETA: I will agree, however, with your initial assertion that the alt-right is a meme-based ideological family. It is heavily soaked in chan culture, particularly /pol/.

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Blitz the Dragon wrote:

"NeoLiberalism"

Pretty sure you used that word wrong. From my understanding, Neo-Liberalism refers to the late 20th and early 21st century resurgence of 19th century laissez-faire economic theories primarily in the Anglosphere, but also in parts of Europe.

ETA: I will agree, however, with your initial assertion that the alt-right is a meme-based ideological family. It is heavily soaked in chan culture, particularly /pol/.

Actually it's used to describe new economic and social liberalism. Its a main reason why so many fiscal conservative lawmakers barely critique liberal economics. Plus most leftists today use it to describe SJWs as non leftists.

Plus I'll also add that the Alt Right seems more like SJW types. If you disagree with them, they'll cry Censorship and despises paying any taxes. Plus, most of them believe that being a slave to corporations is better because "You climb the ladder" of business. At the end, just like SJWs they are proponents of self victimisation and hates taking responsibility for themselves.

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{ Plus, after research, it seems as if the Alt-Left are mainly leftists who are White Nationalists. None are your examples have proved that for instance. }

The alt-left is an umbrella term just like the alt-right.
It's not a specific movement.
Neoliberals are a part of the alt-left.
Anarchists are another part of the alt-left.
Green liberalism is yet another part of the alt-left.
How much more simply can it possibly be stated.

lisalombs wrote:

{ Plus, after research, it seems as if the Alt-Left are mainly leftists who are White Nationalists. None are your examples have proved that for instance. }

The alt-left is an umbrella term just like the alt-right.
It's not a specific movement.
Neoliberals are a part of the alt-left.
Anarchists are another part of the alt-left.
Green liberalism is yet another part of the alt-left.
How much more simply can it possibly be stated.

Ya sure about that Lisa? Even Brietbart agrees with me on this one.

You got any proof that Neoliberals fall under leftism? Leftists surely support for workers and consumer rights by lobbying under companies such as Google and Apple right?

Leftism means of the left.
Am I sure neoliberals are left?
Yes.
Yes I am.


"An Establishment Conservative’s Guide To The Alt-Right" – on Breitbart

well this will surely be accurate!

{ We’ve spent the past month tracking down the elusive, often anonymous members of the alt-right, and working out exactly what they stand for. }

Elusive, like the unicorn.

But seriously, this is Breitbart trying to stay relevant, this is not a legitimate history of a term that's been used for longer than /pol/ has existed.

lisalombs wrote:

Leftism means of the left.
Am I sure neoliberals are left?
Yes.
Yes I am.


"An Establishment Conservative’s Guide To The Alt-Right" – on Breitbart

well this will surely be accurate!

{ We’ve spent the past month tracking down the elusive, often anonymous members of the alt-right, and working out exactly what they stand for. }

Elusive, like the unicorn.

But seriously, this is Breitbart trying to stay relevant, this is not a legitimate history of a term that's been used for longer than /pol/ has existed.

Love it how you ignored my noticeable comparison between the two groups Lisa. Plus your heavily detailed explanation sure did show me! Wew

So your gonna claim that they don't exist yet try to claim that the Alt-Left is 100% real. More Wew.

So, here are some alt-right musical parody channels:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCS0hly6LqkPlwL3zTgl5F3Q

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLziPZRfH3CZEozrVBo7BKw

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAprBlfkrpoXvZvjJE6CLxw

Semi-related, apparently Andrew Anglin of The Daily Stormer didn't appreciate Milo's article about the alt-right. He retorted with an article called Breitbart's Alt-Right Analysis is the Product of a Degenerate Homosexual and an Ethnic Mongrel.

Specifically, he takes umbrage with the part where Milo (or one of his 44 interns*) tries to downplay the prevalence of genuine racism in the movement, saying nobody likes the "Stormfags."

Blitz the Dragon wrote:

Semi-related, apparently Andrew Anglin of The Daily Stormer didn't appreciate Milo's article about the alt-right. He retorted with an article called Breitbart's Alt-Right Analysis is the Product of a Degenerate Homosexual and an Ethnic Mongrel.

Specifically, he takes umbrage with the part where Milo (or one of his 44 interns*) tries to downplay the prevalence of genuine racism in the movement, saying nobody likes the "Stormfags."

This part of the article really caught my eye:

Beware of anyone who isn’t talking constantly about Jews. They are probably up to something. They are at best useless. Any attempt to downplay the Jew role in the destruction of Western civilization should be looked at as subversion.

So according to this guy, if you don't obsess over Jews everyday, you're part of the Jewish conspiracy to destroy the Western world.

Amazing.

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I know, right? It's why this emerging trend is so fascinating (and scary); it's really intriguing to see how these kinds of people think.

Mangy Black Sheep wrote:

This part of the article really caught my eye:

Beware of anyone who isn’t talking constantly about Jews. They are probably up to something. They are at best useless. Any attempt to downplay the Jew role in the destruction of Western civilization should be looked at as subversion.

So according to this guy, if you don't obsess over Jews everyday, you're part of the Jewish conspiracy to destroy the Western world.

Amazing.

Because they think going to the opposite extreme of PC culture is how you fight pc either that or some people with an extremist white nationalist agenda high jacked the anti PC movement as an excuse to talk about how horrible everyone who isn't white is.

Theres a massive difference between being anti PC and just straight up being a hateful sack of shit.

This isn't very shocking at all, the alt right extreme is just the rights version of the SJW. Lol being an anon on /pol/ is basically a safe space for them

Also everything that goes wrong ever is a Jews fault

Last edited Apr 02, 2016 at 09:08PM EDT
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