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Could someone please explain the drama with Trump being elected?

Last posted Nov 12, 2016 at 08:48PM EST. Added Nov 09, 2016 at 07:17PM EST
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Ok, i don’t want to offend anyone or act like an ass, but as someone living in latin america (I’m more used to bad presidents than I would like to admit) I really don’t understand why people against Trump are making such a huge deal (specially California, with the whole separatism thing. Not even Texas does this shit).
So, a president they don’t like, for what? 4 years? 8 tops. And if he is bad, there will be a HUGE comeback for democrats, just like after Bush.
So, Is this salt real, or just another exageration by the media? I really don’t understand well, I don’t live there so tho see it myself.
Personally, i think you are being too melodramatic. It's not like it was lifetime or something like that, it's a democracy after all. Just learn from why Dems failed and get over it.
Thanks dudes.

There is a vacancy on the Supreme court, and will likely be another one or two by 2020.

Supreme court justices are there for life. Liberals are mourning because Trump's influence will be felt strongly in America politics for at least the next 3 decades, maybe more if he nominates relatively young people to fill the vacancies.

Also, liberal commentators are convinced that climate change will enter a positive feedback loop and become unstoppable within half a decade.

Thanks dude. I kind of understood the supreme court thing, but as far as I understand, republican ones tend to be rather neutral (I could be wrong, second hand knoledge and all).
The climate change thing is new tough.

Even if he elects a super conservative, that con would be filling in for scalia. Literally noyhing would change about the court or its decisions.

I feel like people are just overreacting honestly. It's happened before.
One of the main arguments is a lot of people are afraid that Black/LGBT/Muslim/Women's rights will be taken away when he comes into office, however that just proves they know little about how the actual government works.

It's called checks and balances. If Trump did happen to want to get rid of Black men and women's rights, he couldn't do it himself. He'd need the combined power of the judicial and legislative branches of government in order to do so. Granted, they're republican, but you also have to remember that a lot of republicans don't agree with Trump. Plus if he wanted to get rid of something that we've had since the 1960s it'd be pretty fucking hard, with their right to vote being an amendment and all.

It's overreacting and frankly it's gotten out of hand.

I would say with each passing year people's attachment to social media gets stronger and stronger, so you see more and more extreme reactions being posted. Generally each election when one side loses they tend to overreact (there was a South Park episode that captured this sentiment during the McCain/Obama election). But people literally believe that Trump will get them killed, which is really worrying that these people can breed.

It was funny at first, but now it's starting to get annoying.

Obama used plenty of executive orders, (Which the GOP complained about), and Trump's plans pretty much require them due to the establishment resistance against him(Which the dems will complain about)

I'm mostly worried about the economics > ecology policy.

I mean, I've heard some Trump supporters noting the degrading quality of life in some cities due to resource over usage/pop. density.

Tyranid Warrior #1024649049375 wrote:

I feel like people are just overreacting honestly. It's happened before.
One of the main arguments is a lot of people are afraid that Black/LGBT/Muslim/Women's rights will be taken away when he comes into office, however that just proves they know little about how the actual government works.

It's called checks and balances. If Trump did happen to want to get rid of Black men and women's rights, he couldn't do it himself. He'd need the combined power of the judicial and legislative branches of government in order to do so. Granted, they're republican, but you also have to remember that a lot of republicans don't agree with Trump. Plus if he wanted to get rid of something that we've had since the 1960s it'd be pretty fucking hard, with their right to vote being an amendment and all.

It actually baffles me how a small select group of Trump supporters actually supported him BECAUSE they think that's exactly what he's going to do. Look I get Trump may have said some rather questionable things about people of certain backgrounds, but he's not a fucking nazi who's going to ensure only people of the "Aryan race" hold all power.

Liberals have been completely deluded by the media. Just go on Twitter or Facebook and you'll see countless people comparing this to Germany in the 1930s, saying he's going to reinstate slavery and take away womens right to vote, and saying if you aren't afraid you have white privilege. It comes from the fact that they only get their news from memes, John Oliver, and short propaganda clips on facebook so they think he's literally Satan.

Mistress Fortune wrote:

It actually baffles me how a small select group of Trump supporters actually supported him BECAUSE they think that's exactly what he's going to do. Look I get Trump may have said some rather questionable things about people of certain backgrounds, but he's not a fucking nazi who's going to ensure only people of the "Aryan race" hold all power.

I think it's because of the whole "Trump is a racist bigot" bandwagon.

Tyranid Warrior #1024649049375 wrote:

I think it's because of the whole "Trump is a racist bigot" bandwagon.

Which is pretty odd too since oftentimes Trump supporters usually deny these accusations and talk about how Trump actually does support non-whites and LGBT people, but yet you've got this one fringe group of supporters who take the "Trump is a bigot" accusation and not only do they believe it they regard it as a positive.

The DNC and the left wing media have been painting Donald Trump and his supporters to be racist, misogynistic, Islamophobic, homophobic, transphobic, xenophobic "deplorables" since day one.

Turns out, if you demonize the people you disagree with, paint them as racists and oppressors and tell them that any and all of their successes are a result of some unearned "privilege," they will decide to come to the polls on Election Day. The Right has been tired of being called "Dumbfuckistan" for years while being under the constant threat of being labeled.

The spill-out of protests/riots was apparent; anyone could see them coming from a mile away. Now the instigators are throwing their arms up in the air and saying, "How could this have happened!?"

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I understand why some folks are really distraught over Trump being elected. As a Black person it especially terrifies me that Trump might appoint Rudy Giuliani to head the Justice department as the attorney general. LGBT folks should be skeptical because Pence and the Republican party platform is staunchly against marriage equality. The president doesn't affect much, but the Republican controlled government affects lots of disenfranchised people.

Old Man GigaChad wrote:

Liberals have been completely deluded by the media. Just go on Twitter or Facebook and you'll see countless people comparing this to Germany in the 1930s, saying he's going to reinstate slavery and take away womens right to vote, and saying if you aren't afraid you have white privilege. It comes from the fact that they only get their news from memes, John Oliver, and short propaganda clips on facebook so they think he's literally Satan.

A lot of the people freaking out appear to be younger.

My hypothesis is that these people are too young to remember any President before Obama. Not to be insulting, but Obama is President PC. He's black. He's liberal. He's defined the period of their maturation. They may have been alive during the Bush administration, but they weren't paying attention to things like politics when they were thirteen.

They've also grown up in the safe space era, where nothing is allowed to challenge their opinions and everything that is not in agreement with those is bad. For this group, Trump's election is the first time people with opposing opinions not only have political power, but appear to be a sizable part of the population. The national safe space has been penetrated and there is no place to hide.

Now look at how the two candidates were framed by the media: Clinton, as an alleged feminist and potentially the first female President, was set up as President PC 2.0 and Trump as a racist, xenophobic serial groper with ties to the KKK.

So if you were a 21 year old college student with no historical reference, who was ideologically sheltered, and who uncritically absorbed media narratives, wouldn't you freak out?

Also do not forget that we have evidence that activist groups funded demonstrations, protests, and riots during the campaign. That process has not stopped because the election is now over. The demonstrations popping up in major cities are not entirely organic. Behind the scenes, they are being organized for political objectives.

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Because America had a perfect candidate, a caring, experienced, brilliant woman. Her ONLY fault was being a woman, but that's enough for these disgusting misogynists. I literally can't even. Even if you're so dumb that you can't see for yourself how great Hillary is, you had all the wonderful people, bright minds of America like Madonna, Miley Cyrus, Lena Dunham, Seth Mcfarlane, and others, tell you who to vote for. Where will we find peaceful Muslim refugees to enrich our lifes now? Why do POC have to live in fear? But whitey only cares about himself.

All you fucking white males are not worth Miley's single tear. The only consolation is that your vote won't matter anything in a couple of decades, you racist rednecks.

#ImStillWithHer #HesNotMyPresident #Michelle2020

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Let people be upset, one of the two most hated candidates in U.S history had just won the presidency and everyone's like " All these people complaining need to grow up, the election was YESTERDAY. He won get over it.". its not like its a month after and people are still protesting. We all know things would be exactly the same if the situation was reversed. Just let them have their thing for a bit.

Steve wrote:

Let people be upset, one of the two most hated candidates in U.S history had just won the presidency and everyone's like " All these people complaining need to grow up, the election was YESTERDAY. He won get over it.". its not like its a month after and people are still protesting. We all know things would be exactly the same if the situation was reversed. Just let them have their thing for a bit.

I honestly doubt things would be the same. Have you every seen conservatives protesting violently? Me neither.

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FREDDURST wrote:

I honestly doubt things would be the same. Have you every seen conservatives protesting violently? Me neither.

what about that guy who said he was getting his musket if hillary won, or the people saying they would revolt if hillary won, I.E my own mother being one of them.

Steve wrote:

Let people be upset, one of the two most hated candidates in U.S history had just won the presidency and everyone's like " All these people complaining need to grow up, the election was YESTERDAY. He won get over it.". its not like its a month after and people are still protesting. We all know things would be exactly the same if the situation was reversed. Just let them have their thing for a bit.

People have the right to be upset.

But if people are advocating violence, murder, and vandalism because of the outcome then they can fuck right off.

Another thing I might add as to why everyone's going nuts over this is because it's actually quite a shock to them.
Throughout this entire campaign, almost every single news outlet (except for Fox, but even they had their own doubts) was saying "we're for sure that Hillary's going to win this election! It's going to be a fucking landslide!" They back this up with polls that did state that Hillary was the favored candidate. Literally everyone, even Trump supporters like me, were expecting Hillary to win big time. (However if she did win I wouldn't be parading in the streets destroying replicas of her and burning flags. Absolutely disgusting, these people need to be arrested.)

However, one major thing these outlets didn't take into account is the silent majority, which I will say I was partially part of. (In public I wouldn't say who I was voting for, but I was fine with saying it on the internet because I know no one could do shit to me besides call me racist or some other liberal buzzword.) There were a very large amount of people who were actually Trump supporters, and I mean very. For an example, I thought 3/4s of my IRL friends were going to vote for either Hillary or third party, but it turns out that 9/10s of them voted Trump. I asked one of my friends about this and he said that he didn't want to persecuted for who he voted for. He, and many like him, didn't want to be called racist, sexist, Islamophobic, homophobic, or other terms like that and be ridiculed as someone who supports the Nazis or the KKK. Most liberals could openly say who they were voting for, because they couldn't be ridiculed for much besides being called "idiot" and "cuck." As well they had the media on their side too. So basically a majority of Trump supporters went into hiding until election day, when they made their voices heard.

I could understand being a little miffed at how the candidate you expected to win for 6 months ended up losing, but for fuck's sake:



This is literally one of the worst things I've ever seen in my life. And I was caught in the middle of a BLM protest/riot IRL. This just shows you how these people really didn't give a shit about what was good for America, and only wanted Hillary to win due to reasons. Either they wanted to keep leeching off a welfare or they wanted a woman president no matter what. This is absolutely fucking disgusting and I hope these people involved are arrested. I'm normally okay with protests but it crosses a line when you start making death threats, beating up people, and burning an American flag.
Fucking disgusting.

Steve wrote:

what about that guy who said he was getting his musket if hillary won, or the people saying they would revolt if hillary won, I.E my own mother being one of them.

This is part of the issue for me. The Pro-Trump guys preparing to make a scene were pretty highlighted by the media, as something completely anti democratic and inmature. But now that the democrats lost, it's being painted as a natural reaction.
Shit, they even made a reddit to make fun of pro trumps if he lost, and then they turned into salt themselves. They are both bad losers, and would be bad winners.

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Drama? I threaten to tear down the very establishment of this country and they call it drama? This is a war on big government and by my hands I will wring its neck!

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