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Overview

GothamChess vs. Dewa_Kipas Chess Match refers to chess competition between Twitch-streamer and YouTuber GothamChess and Indonesian Chess.com user Dewa_Kipas, who won the match. Following the match, Dewa_Kipas's son accused GothamChess fans of not accepting the results. Fans reported him until his account was banned.

Background

On March 2nd, 2021, the GothamChess held a match on their Twitch channel against Chess.com[1] user Dewa_Kipas. In an upset victory, Dewa_Kipas defeated GothamChess. The following day, YouTuber [9] user Waxy Nih uploaded GothamChess's stream, receiving more than 39,000 views in less than 24 hours (shown below).


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According to a report on Wowkia.com,[3] fans of GothamChess rejected the outcome because it was played on Chess.com. Fans allegedly reported the Dewa_Kipas account until Chess.com banned the user.

Developments

Online Reaction

On March 3rd, 2021, Facebook user Ali Akbar, who claimed to be Dewa_Kipas's son (known as Dadang Subur), uploaded a post the match. After his dad won the match, he claimed GothamChess reported him, then Chess.com banned Dewa_Kipas' account. The post is no longer available.

That day, Twitter[2] user @jarvisbudana uploaded Ali Akbar's screenshots. The tweet received more than 4,400 likes and 1,200 retweets in less than 24 hours (shown below, left). Similarly, Reddit[4] user TheHoodieGuy02 uploaded the image to /r/chess, the post received more than 4,100 upvotes (77% upvoted) and 160 comments in less than 24 hours (shown below, right).


>Bapak gw main Catur Online di Chess.com >Keternu Gotham Chess Master Internasional dengan ELO 24m >Sekaligus dengan Subs >Waktu Bapak gw tandiru disiarkan Live di Twitch >Dtonton ribuan orang >Bapak gw menang >Para penonton twitch ngambek >Mereka ruiuh-n 4.1k Posted by u/TheHoodieGuy02 14 hours ago (i) Q 2 98 S 5 '6 GothamChess fans went out mass reporting Chess.com account of a retired professional chess player after he beat GothamChess live on Twitch Unsubstan tiated 2311 164 Comments Share Save Hide Re

Before Ali Akbar removed or privatized his posts, media outlet Wowkia[3] published an article about the dispute, concluding that the player Dewa_Kipas was indeed a world-class chess player. In the article, the site included a photo of Dadang Subur's chess certificate from PERCASI, which stands for (Persatuan Catur Seluruh Indonesia) and a photo of Dadang Subur with another participate at 18th pre-PON (Pekan Olahraga Nasional) at Pontianak, Indonesia (shown below, left and right, respectively).


ENGGAR.A CATU& SEKOTA SINGKAW DALAM RANCiKA PERSIAPAN KEJURDA CATUR KE - 37 TAHUN Tenma Kasih SUBUR Rangktng CKESATU> Sebagat Pada KeJuaraan Catur Sekota Stngkawang Tare I April 2005 sld S Apnl 2005 Pengcab Percasl Sourn MS Ketua Paniua Pelaksana uaraan C Pra PON ZONA KALIMANTAN un BE.R@GIJ Poatlaacb, acn

Following the controversy, Indonesian fans began posting memes about the match. For example, on March 3rd, Facebook[6] user Farras uploaded a You Can't Defeat Me meme about the match (shown below, left). That day, Facebook[7] user Askar Ghany uploaded a Shin-Sang / Statue of God variation about the match (shown below, right).


GothamChess You can't defeat me. I know, but he can. Dewa_Kipas dewas_kipas magnus carlsen twitch chesse bpbby fischer, q..,streamerpr gothamchess agadmator hikaru nakamura garry asparov Paul morphy

GothamChess's Response

On March 3rd, 2021, GothamChess tweeted explanations for Ali Akbar's accusation and claimed that "cheat detection isn't mob influenced, but use data." The tweet received more than 750 likes before deletion. That day, Facebook[5] user Giovanni Yano uploaded GothamChess's tweets screenshot (shown below, left). The following day, GothamChess tweeted[10] a screenshot of his conversation with Ali Akbar. The tweet received 1,500 likes and 160 retweets in less than 24 hours (shown below, right).


3G 4G ...1 10:23 GothamChess 1 ,536 Tweets Tweets Tweets & replies Media —l Wltcv Gothem Chess *Dia Master Internasional dengan CLO 24CC SSekaligus dengan Subs Bapak Live Twitch rituan orang s33pak gw 'Para p:nmton twitd' 'garn* >Vereka nuduh-nudlll hapak GothamChess @GothamChess Update: I have spoken with Ali Akbar, the son of the gentleman using the "Dewa_Kipas" account. We agreed to find a positive solution. Will discuss soon, since it is late in Indonesia. Ali Akbar Active now Okay, Good Night. Good ni

Chess.com Respond

On March 4th, the Chess.com official Twitter[11] tweeted an explanation for the controversy, which stated that users cannot mass report some accounts and claimed that the situation is under review. The tweet received more than 1,100 likes and 120 retweets in less than 24 hours (shown below).


@chesscom • 6h Chess.com We would never ever ever ever close an account based on any number of reports from @GothamChess or any other creator or their community. All closures are made by the fair play team after careful review in accordance with our fair

Ali Akbar's Respond

On March 4th, 2021, Ali Akbar[8] uploaded post stating GothamChess contacted him. In the end, he claims that it was a misunderstanding and is willing upload the video about clarification and chronology (conversation below).

So I was Contacted By Mr. Levy (GothamChess) and explained all the problems Peacefully. Finally we have a deal that both of our post on each platform will be removed.
I will also make a Clarification Video along with The Chronology about this incident…
It's all just misunderstanding.
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Ini Pesan yang gw kirim ke Mr. Levy,
Semoga masalahnya bisa mencapai titik terang.

↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓
Mr. Levy, it's an honor to speak to you.
First, My deepest apologies about bunch of Indonesian People start to bullying you mindlessly because of my Post.
Second, About your match againts My Father yesterday. Yes, It's not cheating, I can guarantee. I can explain everything about my father's abnormalities about his stats at chess-com.
Third, If you want to talk with My Father face to face, I could set up a Video Chat if you don't mind. But My Father can't speak English so I will also show up as his interpreter.

So, Let me Explain.
My Father was a Retired Tournament Player since decades ago. He attended so many local chess tournament as a Club Player. If you know about PERCASI (Biggest Chess Organization in Indonesia), My father was a Part of it (A Former Treasurer).
And you might see his note full of his Match History againts Bot called "Shredder Chess". Yes, he wrote that after each match, and keep increasing the difficulty and wrote the PGN again until the book is full of his handwriting.
BTW that was written couple years ago, and I looked for it as an evidence to convinced people that My Father wasn't cheating.

And Just you know that, No Matter how good you are on an online game, you need to start from Level 1. Same as Chess-com when My Father forced to Play since ELO 800 when his actual ELO in his last tournament is much higher than that (Sorry, I can't find the setup to set High ELO on the first game).
Now, the abnormalities:

1. Why He only Play Rapid?
My Father doesn't really understand Technology, I was the one who helped him created his account, set his profile picture, set a match, set a timer, etc.
Meanwhile, Rapid (10 minutes) is the only game mode that you can access from the main menu with a single click. (He even needs my help to set the timer to 15 or 20 minutes, but stay at 10 minutes because that's the only mode he could access from the main menu without changing the settings).
Yeah I know, what a ridiculous reason…

2. Why He Played Blitz only for Couple times?
He can't really keep up with 5 minutes play. He can't move that fast, especially with an old andorid phone, and he's too old to think that intensely (But he said that he still can do it with Physical Chess).
So he only played Blitz like 12 times if I recall, and back to rapid. Because 10 minutes is still possible for him.

3. Why his Puzzle Rank is so Bad?
I WAS THE ONE WHO PLAYED IT, OKAY 😳
My father only cared about ranked match and doesn't really cared about puzzle, Chess960, or anything.
So I helped him set-up his account, set the theme, set the match, set the timer, sending friend request, etc.
While he only play the one that instantly accessible from main menu, which is Rapid (10 Minutes).
(I played the Puzzle on a whim, duh)

4. Why his moves is so similar to Bot?
(With 90%++ Accuracy)
Because he trained using Bot all the time, as I told you before, he trained with Shredder Chess (2600 ELO) and Wrote the PGN manually on paper, and memorized it for later play.

5. Why he often loses at 1400 ELO, and keep winning later on?
This was just a speculation, but my father said he could also recognize wether his opponents are cheating or not. Because My Father said that peoples on 1400 are harder than Shredder-2600 ELO that he usually used for training. So he often loses on that rank.

6. Why he escalated to 2300 ELO in just 3 weeks?
He played it non-stop. Yes, he's totally addicted. He was playing with Bots all the times, and when I introduced Chess-com to him and said that he can play with other players, he was really happy.

First Reason.
He played non-stop to synchronize his ELO with his real skill based on his last tournament. Well you know, because he forced to start from 800, so there's no helping it. He wants to achieve 2400++
Second Reason.
He really wants to meet Indonesian Famous Player on ranked match, such as Susanto Megaranto. So he pushed his ELO until someday he meets his idol.
(Well, he met with you tho')
Feel free to ask another question.
Thanks a Lot.
My Father really respects You.

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Top Comments

Iso
Iso

So I was confused about how people cheat at online chess, as the game won't let you make illegal moves or anything. Turns out people cheat by running a computer chess sim alongside the actual game and perform the same moves in the sim as their opponent does in the real game. Then they just copy the computer's moves to their own game. The computer basically plays for them.

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Pokejoseph64
Pokejoseph64

Yknow, i was once part of a chess club when I was in elementary (yes seriously, Todd Howard memes aside), and when i mostly lost matches, I simply knew that I sucked and I didn’t blame my opponent for cheating.

Then again it’s been at least 10 years so my memory might be messy idk all I really remember then was that I was in the chess club, I sucked balls at it, and I had my first vomit there

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