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File : 1285640447.jpg-(529 KB, 1024x762, 4654992908_4d5f391841_b.jpg) O LegoSpace The Goddamn Duck 09/27/10(Mon)22:20 No.12248169 FTL drive was always problematic, until Brik Theory was solidified. By envisioning the very fabric of reality as a series of interconnected bricks, which could be separated and immediately plugged back together, scientists were able to create a jump drive that worked by threading ships briefly through a nearby, mostly-empty dimension. Efficient. Quick. Safe, even within close proximity to planets. Surprisingly easy to maintain. The brik drive ushered in a new era of space exploration, and a joint project between several countries - the Futron Project. The moon bases were set up within months, complete with a top-of-the-line monorail connecting them, and the Mars base was fast-tracked. Then came Blacktron Enterprises. The company stole the secrets of the brik drive in pieces - bits from NASA, from Roscosmos, and - mostly - from the Chinese, who had already managed to piece together more than half the drive through their own security networks. Setting their sights on more distant goals, they started flooding nearby solar systems, setting claim to as many Class M planets as they could. Vessels from the Futron Project that entered Blacktron space were invariably raided for supplies, and usually taken captive, under the pretense that the Futron ships were "illegal invaders". When action was set to be taken against Blacktron, they responded by abandoning their corporate HQ on Earth, and relocating to Tau Centauri. This action prompted the creation of the Universal Code of Law, and the Space Police. O The Goddamn Duck 09/27/10(Mon)22:30 No.12248270 File1285641039.jpg-(352 KB, 1024x824, 4568072707_b695a464e4_b.jpg) >>12248169 The UCL was essentially maritime law applied to space travel, and was surprisingly straightforward for a committee-created code. As a result, the Space Police had a fairly easy time of their original duties - escorting Futron Project ships, protecting them from Blacktron raiders, and investigating criminal offenses that occurred on vessels - offenses that were, thankfully, rare in those days. After the raids became more blatant, and Blacktron vessels began raiding FP outposts directly, the Corporate Accord was passed, allowing the FP to treat Blacktron as a national body instead of merely a corporation. This allowed them to begin taking out Blacktron bases, declaring war on them officially. It also cleared the way for more corporations to legitimately take to the stars, and to found their own colonies, assured that in doing so they would be recognized by the vague terms of the Corporate Accord as national bodies themselves. The first was the Japanese MTron corporation, previously a leading company in robotics, who had fallen into financial problems in recent years. Funded by an influx of would-be colonists, they set themselves up as the first formally-recognized commercial cargo vessels to use the brik drive, as well as the first publicly-accessible interstellar flights. O The Goddamn Duck 09/27/10(Mon)22:45 No.12248422 File1285641908.jpg-(170 KB, 1024x721, 4755641811_9195c6b34d_b.jpg) >>12248270 At first, the MTron vessels were merely used as an auxiliary for Futron Project resources, as well as for tourist trade on their own colonies; they refused to service Blacktron colonies. The extra cargo capabilities were welcomed during what was technically wartime, and helped the resource-stretched Space Police to slowly overwhelm Blacktron forces. It wasn't until the next corporation stretched its wings outward that the Blacktron threat was nullified, however. The Tienshan Mining Group had colonized the recently-discovered M-Class planet Krysto, and was busily working at mining the planet - not only for the amazingly versatile substance Orangium, an isotope that was quickly built into their own tools and adopted by large slices of the galaxy as a power source, but also for water. Krysto was a world with two frigid, but inhabitable, poles, a tiny temperate zone, and a vast swath of uninhabitable volcanic belts about its equator. The result was a planet buffeted by constant, violent snowfall. This was also Blacktron's last temptation. Attempting to secure the Orangium mines as a way to boost their steadily-crumbling production, the Blaktron forces did not realize that A) they had committed far too much of their resources to the invasion, B) their vessels, which were specialized for space travel, would have issues icing up in the moisture-laden atmosphere, and C) the Space Police had already gotten word of their plans. The defeat was crushing; within the year, only a few distant outposts were still controlled by Blacktron forces, all of which were cut off from each other, and considered widely to be little more than bandits. O The Goddamn Duck 09/27/10(Mon)23:03 No.12248631 File1285642983.jpg-(222 KB, 800x569, display.cgi (1).jpg) >>12248422 After this, there was a massive influx of new groups seeking their fortune in the stars. The UK-based Unitron and Franco-Italian Exploriens began setting down roots, as did the Canadian-based Spyrius Corporation - which unabashedly admitted to stealing the brik drive, and most of their technology, instead of developing it themselves, pointing to the legacy of Apple and Microsoft. It was at this time that the aliens made themselves known. The first two examples of first contact were nearly concurrent. First, a ship emerging from brikspace was followed - and destroyed - by a sleek vessel with a half-disk shaped front end. A message transmitted from the hostile ship took nearly a year to decode, but stated in essence that further incursions into their space - the dimension that brik drive accessed - would not be tolerated. The Insectoids proved to be much more amicable to human presence. The initial contact, made by the Exploriens, proved that at least one race out there in the galaxy was intelligent and - more importantly - didn't want to kill us. A nonagression pact was quickly hammered out, languages shared, and in the wake of the struggle against the UFOS from Brikspace, the queen of the Insectoid people gifted the collective factions of humanity with information on a propulsion system that would allow us to pass through Brikspace without being detected by "The Aggressors". It worked - seemingly. The incursions from the transdimensional entities became far more sporadic, and easier to deal with. However, the new drive slowed travel considerably; its maximum speed was less than half that of the previous brik drive. And, in a twist that conspiracy theorists claim is far worse than the previous invasions, the queen now claimed that mankind owed them a favor - one she would collect on if she ever needed it. O The Goddamn Duck 09/27/10(Mon)23:12 No.12248727 >>12248631 From that point on, travel further from Earth resulted in contact with countless alien species. Mankind has proliferated among the stars, always going outwards, always seeking the next frontier. The Space Police are still around, although their aim has become more domestic, as the colony worlds have become less like scientific outposts and more like any other city on any other planet. Each of the other factions mentioned has remained, in some form... The Futron Project is still responsible for most near-Earth settlements, including the Mars base. They were the ones responsible for discovering the long-dormant Martian civilizations that rested beneath the dusty soil, and for sharing the brik drive with our neighbors - although the Martians have declined to use it so far, more than content with their self-sufficient communities. Futron Project vessels tend to be mostly scientific affairs, with top-of-the-line sensor arrays and onboard labs, although lightly armed. Their only agendas are exploration, and furthering diplomacy with extraterrestrial entities. However, the Futron Project has been slammed as being a "humans only" club, and even their spinoff peacekeeping force, the Space Police, has been criticized for anti-alien prejudices. The FP is on excellent terms with Unitron. They deal extensively with MTron, but consider their commercial leanings to be a detriment to their focus. They do not trust Spyrius, and avoid them whenever possible. Blacktron forces are under a shoot-on-sight order. Exploriens is viewed as a rival more than an ally, mostly because of their close connection to the barely-trusted Insectoids. O The Goddamn Duck 09/27/10(Mon)23:22 No.12248845 >>12248727 Unitron is considered by many to be the fringe-world equivalent of the Futron Project, and thať's not too far off. Their cities tend to be a bit more stark and utilitarian than the Futron equivalents, with security cameras monitoring every square inch of public space. They tend to be a better-armed people than the Futron Project, and have heavily armored their vessels, so that most light assaults are futile; this has significantly lessened their reliance on the Space Police, to the point where their own colonial security forces can handle most problems that arise. Likewise, their manufacturing and mining divisions - which are widespread and highly profitable - are run with a keen eye to oversight and zero tolerance for corruption or laziness. They are far more suspicious of extraterrestrials, as the first contact with "The Aggressors" resulted in the destruction of one of their colony vessels; any nonhuman living in a Unitron colony is essentially treated as a second-class citizen. Unitron is on excellent terms with the FP, although they are wary of what they consider to be pro-alien sentiments running through their ranks. They are outrightly hostile towards the "Xeno-loving freaks" of Exploriens. Spyrius gets a bit more respect in their eyes, as at least those blokes are trying to earn a living, and doing it without shooting at people (if they can help it). MTron, likewise, is viewed with admiration and respect, though the tourism angle pushed by MTron colonies raises a few eyebrows among their ranks. Blacktron are nothing but common criminals and are to be treated as such, though they're surely no threat anymore, and the Insectoids... creepy little buggers... well, let's just say that if anything is to happen to one of their vessels in Unitron space, they wouldn't complain. O The Goddamn Duck 09/27/10(Mon)23:33 No.12248953 >>12248845 Exploriens has filled large sections of the fringe, their name saying it all; the corporation is almost insatiably curious and xenophilic. They have a limited R&D department, mostly dedicated to adaptation and improvement of alien technology they discover and/or trade for, which has made their vessels some of the most distinctive, and - to outsiders - difficult to operate in known space. An Exploriens ship may have an Insectoid Orangium power cell, Squidfolk inertial dampeners, and a Silicin-designed computer bank. Their colonies are set up as immense trading posts, with nominal tariffs making another decent chunk of their profit margin. The Exploriens are on good terms with the FP, although they wish they'd just stop whining about the Insectoids and see that people are people, even if they're chitinous and cybernetic. They are on outstanding terms with the Insectoids, having nearly won over the inwardly-driven, isolationist people. They are on poor footing with Unitron, and are not seeking to improve things with the "backwards, provincial bigots". MTron is just another company to be dealt with on a case-by-case basis, and while they are not hostile towards them, they have to wonder about a company that treats this new frontier in such a menial way. They are openly hostile towards Spyrius, as trading and refining alien tech that they've traded for legitimately is a main source of income for them, and they're not fond of those that would steal it. Oddly, they have little problem with the straggler Blacktron colonies - as long as they stay in their own corner of the galaxy. O The Goddamn Duck 09/27/10(Mon)23:43 No.12249031 >>12248953 MTron is all about two things: Service, and style! They see no reason why the wonders of space shouldn't be available to the public at large, and likewise don't see why it shouldn't be as comfortable as possible - as long as they're willing to pay for it. To that end, MTron colonies are heavily urbanized, high-tech wonderlands that are aimed at tourists as much as colonists. MTron vessels have vast cargo holds, reflecting well their status as a middleman, dealing with anyone with a pocketbook to be opened. They also tend to be sluggish and oversized... while the colonies are practically pieces of art, the vessels MTron uses are almost universally worn, fidgety, and substandard in capability. They're reliable - almost supernaturally so, for things held together by spit and duct tape, and you'd never know they were in such shape if you were to ride on one as a passenger - but most other vessels can fly rings around an MTron ship. MTron trades openly with the Exploriens, the Futron Project, and Unitron, figuring that their credits spend as well as anyone's - and besides, all that political crap they're having problems with will wash out eventually. They consider Spyrius to be a competing company, but will ally with them readily if the proper contracts are in place. They will even service Blacktron colonies, as long as they've got some backup and a loaded ion cannon. The Insectoids, however, don't seem to be affected by the power of positive marketing, and want nothing to do with MTron... possibly owing to a diplomatic error in their early negotiations. O The Goddamn Duck 09/27/10(Mon)23:55 No.12249139 >>12249031 Spyrius. The universe's greatest hackers, programmers, and data-traders. If it's out there, they want to know about it, and to hell with restrictions. They consider themselves to be the last true gentleman pirates in an age where DRM is almost mandatory, where someone'll shoot you for just memorizing a blueprint. They're not bandits - they're bon vivants, rebels making a statement, and making a profit at the same time! Their colonies tend to be arcologies, tight tunnels of winding passages with visible wiring and access ports for easy maintenance. Not exactly welcoming, but it's quite easy to live there - as long as you know a little something about basic electronics and engineering. Most of their colonies serve as listening posts. Their ships are decently armed, lightly armored, and VERY maneuverable. The saucer-shaped vessels have been upgraded steadily since they cracked Aggressor ships, making them some of the quickest, most annoying ships out there. Don't expect anything larger than a light freighter, though. few scans of Spyrius is on questionable terms with the FP. They can get along beautifully, as long as Spyrius doesn't let on just how much they know about their hidden files. They deal openly with Unitron, and like their funds just fine - if only they didn't have their heads up their rear ends as far as aliens go. There's a fine line between healthy paranoia and idiocy. They aren't on good terms with the Exploriens, but are fascinated by their discoveries. Blacktron is nothing more than a bunch of idiot bullies, the sort of people that beat them up in school - the sort of people they take no small delight in shooting down. MTron is just too glossy on the surface, with nothing worthwhile beneath - they can deal with them, but only if there's something in it for them. And the Insectoids? They don't know what to make of them, but they have such wonderful toys! O The Goddamn Duck 09/28/10(Tue)00:04 No.12249202 >>12249139 The Insectoids are by far the largest alien empire that the factions of man has discovered. Encompassing no less than 300 hive planets, they are a people that are content. They have ceased explorations, conquests, and all external activity, focusing inward, on improving their own lives. Supported by genetic therapy and cybernetics, the average Insectoid lives to be over 300 years old, and may hit 400 if she's lucky. The only thing that has pulled the quasi-bugfolk out of their introverted state has been humans - such a varied, contradictory bunch! The Insectoids are fascinated by them, for a variety of reasons, including the fact that their history and philosophies are so closely mirrored. The Insectoids are on excellent terms with the Exploriens, whose curiosity is infectious to them, and nostalgic of their own first steps into space. They admire the productive drive of Unitron - if only they weren't so shortsighted. The FP are much like themselves in agenda and drive, and easy to negot with. MTron are children playing with toys they do not understand, and do nothing to contribute to the greater good. The fools of Spyrius are not much better - but at least they have a philosophy to guide them, even if it is a laughably simplistic one. And Blacktron is to be pitied, a broken people, waiting for death to finally take their society. O The Goddamn Duck 09/28/10(Tue)00:16 No.12249309 >>12249202 In their cold, cold bases, the people of Blacktron see themselves as a proud group of warriors. The first to break from Earth's tightly-controlled regiments. The first to seek their fortune in space, free of the countries that would hold them back. The first to defy Terran rule! They bite their tongues back at the thought at being the first to fail - they are still alive, after all, and still waiting for their time to rise. Blacktron colonies are military camps, where harsh conditions and cloning spit out some of the most conditioned, perfectly-trained soldiers of all time. However, they are poorly equipped - while their ships are certainly nothing to laugh at, having picked up bits and pieces of key technology in their raids over the years, their designs keenly focused on power and speed, they are still behind the times, and short on numbers compared to their foes. Blacktron considers FP to be the great enemy, to be destroyed at any cost. Unitron are a militant branch of the FP, and are to fall in short order after their primary foe is gone. The Exploriens are dreamers who are trying to find their own way in the galaxy, even if that way is naive and ignoble, and are to be left alone. Spyrius has such potential - if only they would stop snatching at the purse-strings of the foes and strike at their faces! MTron is but a tool, point, and will join Blacktron when the time comes, or they are an obstacle, to be blocked off from their enemies long enough to take them out. Time will tell which it is. neutral party to purchase the tools needed for their eventual rise to power. And the Insectoids are an unknown quantity. Either they will be a turning O The Goddamn Duck 09/28/10(Tue)01:17 No.12249853 >>12249765 The so-called "Robo Force" has set up shop on Titan, and is quite content to stay there. A group of engineers and obsessive hobbyists, the RF's goal is nothing less than advancing robotic technology until they can create a full-scale, fully functional Gundam (or Megazord, or what-have-you. Different geeks, different goal, same broad stroke). They have had some luck with smaller-scale robots - about the size of a tank - but they still lack the resources to manage anything larger with any success. Most of their creations are sold off to be used for mercenary work or for entertainment - at least one of their robots was a centerpiece in a major Bollywood sci-fi holo released last year. While not formally allied or shunned by any group, rumors have begun to circulate that the RF was actually commissioned by Blacktron to build a new line of crawlers for them. They deny such claims vigorously... but then, surveillance shots of their newest work have raised a few eyebrows. O The Goddamn Duck 09/28/10(Tue)14:59 No.12254840 File1285700351.jpg-(75 KB, 777x635, 4460085527_6cfe221f5c_o.jpg) COMMON TECHNOLOGY -Brik Drive- All but ubiquitous, the brik drive works on Quantum Brik Tunnel technology; in an instant, the drive "takes apart" the building blocks of reality, shifts the ship sideways through said hole, and repairs the hole. Thanks to the Insectoids, the new drives allow ships moving through the "other space" without attracting the attention of the native species, via keeping them partially in phase with their home dimension. A brik drive jump can allow a ship to travel from Earth to Pluto in less than an hour. The drives typically use refined Orangium discs as a power source, but other energy supplies do exist. -lon Drive- The chosen sub-light drive of most of the galaxy, ion drive is cheap, reliable, and incredibly compact. An ion drive propulsion unit the size of a frisbee is sufficient to move a ship the size of a VW Bug. Most ships, however, use multiple ion pads for maneuverability's sake, or - in the case of fighters - potent ion turbines, which also provide a secondary power source for shielding units and weaponry. -MagDrive- MTron ships use their own proprietary sublight drives. Close examination has shown that they use potent magnetic fields, but how that works in the void of space has never been determined exactly. The drives are closely guarded knowledge, and - while inferior in most regards - are far superior as far as energy consumption, taking next to no energy to use. For now, this presumably magnetic drive system appears almost... miraculous. O The Goddamn Duck 09/28/10(Tue)15:12 No.12254926 >>12254840 -Weaponry- If one was to catalogue every piece of weaponry found on every ship in the known galaxy, the list would be several hundred pages long. There are countless known starship weapon systems, most of them existing in multiple distinct subtypes. The most commonly used weapons include railguns, ion cannons, masers, torpedoes, and a few solid-shell weapons. -Shields- Shielding technology remains fairly consistent through the various factions. Quantum force fields are either projected in a bubble from the ship via external emitters, or on the surface of the ship's armor through an internal emitter web. The former is prized because it gives a bit of leeway for the ship to escape damage if a sufficiently large explosion were to damage the shields, and the latter because in saving energy on projecting the shield outward, it is possible to strengthen the shield greatly.

> O Anonymous 12/02/15(Wed)08:56:11 No.43945056 >>43949991 >>43944899 (OP) I had a squad of Imperial Guard, lead by a Commissar, versus Necrons. After most of my squad was murdered by Gauss fire from the Immortals, the squad rolled a morale check and failed. Now, there were only two units left. The Commissar, and a quardsman. The Commissar's special rule kicked in, and he shot the Guardsman in the face..Then charged the Necron lines alone. To his credit, he took out two Immortals with his power sword before he went down. 7 Anonymous 12/02/15(Wed)16:13:14 No.43949991 ► >>43958477 File: 1418489190054.jpg (103 KB, 524x492) exhentai >>43945056 >squad broken due to too many casualties >shoots last surviving member of the squad >squad morale restored O Anonymous 12/02/15(Wed)23:38:40 No.43958477 ► >>43959844 >>43949991 ># of Guardsmen with poor morale: 0

O Anonymous 12/16/10(Thu)03:47 No.13170284 Hide Gather 'round to hear the tale of Donovan Graham. Everyone who knew him thought that he was a paladin, but he was not. Everyone who knew him thought that he was noble-born, but he was not. Everyone who knew him thought that he was a brave man, but he was not. A rogue and a con artist, what began as a simple attempt to get free lodgings at a temple for the night rapidly spiraled into a lie from which Donovan could not escape. That very night, word came that the governor was calling up a band of brave souls to set forth and attempt to gain intelligence upon or even slow the advance of an army pushing up from the south. He had beseeched the church to send aid and while there was not one among their elderly ranks who could have endured such a trial, there WAS their visiting brother-paladin... "But I've no armor, no weapons. I donated them all to the poor," Donovan explained. "Then take with you these relics, the blade and armor of a great knight entrusted to our care. As one equal to him in both baring and breeding, we know he would approve of your using them," the monks answered back. And so given a weapon he'd no idea how to use and clad in armor so heavy he could barely stand, Donovan Graham joined a rough band of mercenaries and patriots to face a vast and terrible army. His plan was to run the first chance he got, yet in that first attempt he blundered straight into an enemy spy. In panic and through sheer luck, he put his sword through the man's chest, and collapsed bellow a tree. The rest of the band caught up with him, cheering the brave Paladin Donovan for uncovering the spy. O Anonymous 12/16/10(Thu)03:47 No.13170293 Hide >>13170284 So continued his every effort to flee, at least four more times carrying him unwittingly into the clutches of danger and death. The rest of the band were amazed at his ability to sniff out ambushes and patrols and the almost berserker-like fervor in which he set upon their foes. Finally, realizing that his only chance to survive was to keep in the company of the others, Donovan ceased attempting to flee. Soon he began to impress them with other skills, such as the settings of traps and snares, being able to talk an entire camp of local bandits into aiding them, and even methods to stealthily approach enemy lines without being seen. It was clear to them all that his religious passion and knightly virtue was tempered with great worldly knowledge. Unanimously, it was agreed that HE would lead the guerrila movement against the enemy. Donovan, despite himself, began to grow fond of the member of his band. In particular the young bard with laughing green eyes who delighted in his knowledge of bawdy songs ("I wouldn't think a member of nobility would know that one, Donovan." "Are you kidding? We WROTE it.") and the half-elven wizardess with the freckled face, whose worldliness both awed and frightened him. Even the half-orc, as grouchy and unfriendly a man as had ever been born, had somehow become a pillar he relied on. With the aid of bandit clans and the local population, they slowed and even checked the advancing army. A bounty was placed on all their heads, but none was higher than for the Black-Haired Paladin who lead them. Despite having managed to avoid directly involving himself in battle nearly the entire time, legends rose about his great prowess and mastery of the sword. How he could, in a single sweep of his fiery blade, reap through soldiers as if they were wheat. O Anonymous 12/16/10(Thu)03:49 No.13170311 Hide >>13170293 Such rumors awakened the dark hungers of the commanding general of the invaders, whose power and skill was matched only by his ruthlessness. He longed to face the paladin in a duel and prove how mortal this legend was. Yet, his invitations went unanswered or else resulted in ambushes that badly weakened his forces. Finally, this man had enough and set upon a course of action to ensure Donovan would have no choice but to face him. With his most loyal commanders at his side, he stormed into one of the communities that supported the guerrillas, he burnt every house to the ground and held as hostages every soul in town, threatening to kill them all unless the Paladin faced him. A paladin could not have turned his back upon those people. A thief had no such trouble. Donovan spent days avoiding the challenge and the issue, his smooth tongue soothing concerns of his allies. He was able to so save face right up until the first headless body was placed upon a stake outside of town. Then, the protests became too much to talk off. The cry for action and revenge rose from every corner and Donovan knew there was no more avoiding it. So, he decided, he would run away. As always though, his luck was poor, as he passed close to the bard, listening as she comforted frightened children with songs about HIS bravery and nobility. His resolve to flee was not yet broken though, as he moved on, only to run into the wizardess instead. She spoke of her confidence in him, she spoke of what defeating the commander would mean, but most of all she spoke of the life she expected to lead once the war was over. A life that, she had decided, would involve him. "Just like everything else," he had smiled then, sardonic and sad. "I don't even get asked." She had smiled too and held his hand. "Some things are just decided for you. They're never your choice to begin with." O Anonymous 12/16/10(Thu)03:51 No.13170320 Hide >>13170311 And then, he stayed. Perhaps he came to believe she was right. Perhaps he forgot he had even been trying to run away. Perhaps he had bought into his own legends. Perhaps he just knew that the companions whom he loved were looking on, because despite all wisdom, Donovan went to the occupied town to face his opposite number. The battle was brief and bloody and to any eye it was clear that the Paladin did not have a chance. He was struck down. Laying bleeding and immobile on the ground, while his foe raised a bloody sword into the air as his sign of victory. Failing to notice, as he did, that Donovan's hand was moving, undoing the straps of his cumbersome armor, leaving to lay his heavy sword. Impossibly, he stood despite his wounds, clutching in his shaking hand a dagger. He had poisoned himself even before the fight, leaving himself numb to pain. Though his foes back lay open to him, Donovan waited, Waited just long enough for the villain to turn about, waited to see the look in the other man's eyes, before he drove the dagger straight into one of those same eyes and killed him instantly. By that time, the shocked enemy commanders had already been secretly surrounded by the guerrillas and were captured. The hostages were freed. The army was scattered. The flag of the nation once more waved high above the town. Donovan stayed standing just long enough to see it happen, before his body slumped to the ground once more. Dead for good this time, either from the poison in his veins or the blood that had spilled out of them. And to this day, Saint Donovan Graham is honored as the patron of Guerrillas and Just Causes.

O Anonymous 09/06/16(Tue)01:08:07 No.49199048 >>49199144 >>49199177 >>49199238 >>49199424 >>49187332 (OP) Look, I've been giving it some thought, and here's how things would go down. - USS Enterprise, captain Jean-luc Picard - ISD Avenger, captain Lorth Needa - I don't know any Imperium ship names or captains, so let's just call this The Righteous Endeavor, captained by Lord Aurelius Quartus Maximus. 0. PROLOGUE All three ships appear in the same star system apropos nothing, equidistant from each other, about 1,000,000 km from each other. Within seconds all three ships realize that they have entered a completely new galaxy - the stars are wrong, the pulsars are wrong, etc. However on the Avenger, Captain Needa is informed that the galaxy is still seeded with hyperspace beacons, allowing FTL travel. He is also contacted by A Force (not THE Force) telling him that he doesn't get to leave until the battle is over. Warhammer 40000 Imperium of Man Mars-Class Battlecruiser Over on the Righteous Endeavor, Lord Aurelius is contacted by THE EMPEROR HIMSELF. HE HAS RETURNED GLORIOUSLY AND UNDOUBTEDLY. The EMPEROR requires of His servant that he emerge Triumphant in Battle against the offensive ships that have occupied His space. He has created a Grand Arena for Lord Aurelius and his crew. Aurelius, teary-eyed, thanks THE EMPEROR for this chance to bask in His glory, and sets out immediately. 5100 meters Over on the Enterprise, f------ Q shows up again and explains the situation with his usual panache and flair: the three ships have to fight. Picard refuses on moral grounds, but Q manages to convince him that if he just plays his little game then regardless of if Picard wins or loses the Enterprise and her crew will be returned safely. Otherwise they better get used to the empty galaxy they'll be living in now. The stage is set. Round 1. FIGHT. O Anonymous 09/06/16(Tue)01:19:55 No.49199238 >49199386 Star Trek United Federation of Planets Galaxy Class 642 meters >>49199048 1. FIRST ENCOUNTERS The Avenger detects the Enterprise and the Righteous Endeavor. The Enterprise would likely be easier to destroy, but the Righteous Endeavor has set course for the Avenger and begins closing. Needa orders the Avenger to engage the Righteous Endeavor first, and launches TIE/In fighters and TIE bombers to deal with the Enterprise. The Righteous Endeavor opens fire first, her weapons outranging the Avenger by a significant margin. However this proves to be a boon, as Star Wars sensors, while not the best, are still capable of detecting incoming fire. The Avenger begins evasive maneuvers while putting distance between itself and the Righteous Endeavor, looking to keep several light-seconds between itself and the Mars-class ship while Needa tries to come up with some strategy. Star Wars Galactic Empire Over at the Enterprise, meanwhile, Picard has the incoming TIE fighters and bombers analyzed. The lasers on the ships are negligible threats, but the proton torpedoes are much more respectable. However the ships are *painfully* slow. Still not on-board with fighting people for Q's amusement, Picard orders the Enterprise to simply engage impulse and avoid fighting the TIES while he thinks. Imperial-I Class Destroyer 1600 meters That's when the Righteous Endeavor begins opening fire. The Imperium warship is scanned and its weapons are found to be horrifyingly powerful, while its armor is impossibly thick and sturdy. Phasers and photon torpedoes will likely be ineffective. A follow-up scan of the Avenger, meanwhile, has Picard learn that the turbolasers on the ISD are far more powerful than those on the TIES or the Enterprise, though still lacking when compared to the Righteous Endeavor. However, the Righteous Endeavor is noted to be ANCIENT. It should arguably be even more powerful, but the ship is, as near as Cmdr. Data can tell, held together by what amounts to duct tape and good intentions. Enterprise also notes the Avenger's hyperspace drive, and the hyperspace beacons throughout the galaxy. O Anonymous 09/06/16(Tue)01:32:35 No.49199386 >>49199559 >>49199575 File: 2a4dfe0d086d01b9e5eecde9d(..).jpg (19 KB, 564x548) >>49199238 2. FIRST CONTACT The Righteous Endeavor and the Avenger are capable of roughly the same sublight speeds, so the battle is going precisely nowhere. Needa orders the Avenger to engage in a short hyperspace jump to the system's periphery while he thinks things over. The Righteous Endeavor's weapons are extremely powerful, and he doubts that the Avenger could take much more than three or four hits - less, if the shield generators are hit. Over on the Righteous Endeavor, Lord Aurelius rejoices at the Avenger's flight, although he is troubled by the speed at which it occurs. This battle in the EMPEROR'S name is looking like it might actually require some time to complete. He is even more troubled when the Enterprise seemingly displays the same capabilities to just MOVE impossibly fast. On the Enterprise, Picard hails the Righteous Endeavor and the Avenger. He makes note of the fact that fighting for the amusement of Q will get them exactly nowhere, and do they really want to? Lord Aurelius' response is somewhat less than becoming of a person of his station, but then again he is currently in the grip of holy righteousness for this glorious crusade. Captain Needa, on the other hand, is somewhat more amicable, noting that the Enterprise is capable of tactical FTL speeds that the Empire would kill to have. Picard similarly compliments the Avenger's hyperspace drive. Seeing as the Righteous Endeavor is still moving at painfully slow sublight speeds, Picard suggests that they meet up at a location 30 AU away to hash things out, and Needa agrees. The Avenger and the Enterprise meet up, the Avenger taking the opportunity to collect its TIES. They discuss the situation: every attempt to talk to the Righteous Endeavor is rebuffed by religious fanaticism. Picard doesn't want to kill ever if it can be avoided; Needa is less squeamish but still has nothing invested in this fight. Both agree, then, that the Righteous Endeavor needs to be dealt with first. O Anonymous 09/06/16(Tue)01:45:29 No.49199559 ► >49199600 >>49199689 File: Jean-Luc-Picard-jean-luc-(.Lipg (96 KB, 694x530) >>49199386 3. BATTLE PLANS Picard fills in Needa on Q and the fact that he's most likely behind this whole thing, posing as the EMPEROR to get Aurelius to do what he wants. Needa is none to pleased at being used. Needa is also surprised when Picard openly tells him that the Enterpise's weapons are simply not a match for the Avenger's, although the Avenger's weapons are probably not capable of getting through the Enterprise's robust shield, at least not without effort. They don't spend too much time d----waving, however, because the Righteous Endeavor is still closing. Picard explains the plan: Retrofit turbolasers from the Avenger onto the Enterprise. Its superior tactical speed and maneuverability will allow it to pound open the Righteous Endeavor's hull. Needa, however, flatly refuses: if weapons are where Enterprise is weak, why would Needa give the Enterprise a means to take down the Avenger? He suggests instead retrofitting the Avenger with a warp drive. However this presents a number of problems of its own, mostly the time and the materials needed to do so. A compromise is reached: the TIE/In and TIE bombers can be retrofitted with warp drives from the Enterprise's photon torpedoes. These same warp drives can be used to power turbolasers that will be retrofitted onto them, while gravity plating made by the Enterprise - a technology Earth has had from the 1990s - will essentially negate G-force issues on the TIES. This will, of course, take several days or weeks, potentially even months of work. But the Enterprise and the Avenger have time: the Righteous Endeavor is slow, the Avenger can go up to 2 years without resupply, and the Enterprise, up to 10. So everything's looking good. Both set off for the nearest star system, 5 lightyears away, to begin their work. Avenger arrives there basically instantly; it will take the Enterprise a few days to catch up. ] Anonymous 09/06/16(Tue)01:56:48 No.49199689 ► >>49199829 e: 4b58b1464115984c8bb7207c9(.)Lipg (67 KB, 736x493) >>49199559 4. FOR THE EMPEROR Lord Aurelius is furious, but unsurprised, at the cowardly retreat of the EMPEROR's enemies. As soon as the Righteous Endeavor has mostly cleared the initial system, he orders his ship to enter the Warp to pursue, guessing the enemy ships' destination based on their flight path. The appropriate sacrifices and supplications are made, and the ship enters the Warp..and it is *quiet*. There are no daemons, no screaming horrors, no twisted, formless morass of decay and rage and excess and keikaku. There is only the guiding Beacon, the EMPEROR guiding his children even in this strange arena! REJOICE! The Enterprise, thanks to its FTL sensors, notices the Righteous Endeavor disappearing and realizes its mistake: the ship DOES have FTL capabilities. Picard contacts Needa with this information, just in time, as the Righteous Endeavor emerges from the Warp almost on top of the Avenger, opening fire even as it does. The Avenger manages to make a hasty retreat into hyperspace, but not before suffering significant damage and casualties. The Avenger flees thousands of lightyears and begins attempting to affect repairs. Noticing that the Righteous Endeavor did not engage its FTL drive until they were at the edge of the previous system, he orders the Avenger to head deep into the star system it ends up in, correctly guessing the limitations of the Warp. Over on the Enterprise, the Federation vessel has completely lost track of the Avenger and is in interstellar space, vulnerable to attack from the Righteous Endeavor. However, the attack doesn't manifest, and Picard realizes that - like the Ferengi that he engaged so long ago on the Stargazer - the Righteous Endeavor does not have FTL sensors. But without the Avenger's weapons, how will they defeat the Righteous Endeavor? I Anonymous 09/06/16(Tue)02:09:36 No.49199829 ► >>49199845 >>49199875 >>49199942 File: Spoiler Image (78 KB, 694x530) >>49199689 5. RESPITE The Avenger affects repairs in a far away system. Raw materials are not hard to find, but refining them into a useful state will take weeks. Furthermore, they have lost contact with the Enterprise and don't know how to contact it - or, for that matter, the Righteous Endeavor - again. There is literally an entire galaxy of hundreds of billions of stars to search, and while the Enterprise's FTL is inferior to those, it is still going to create an ever-larger search area hundreds of lightyears wide - assuming that it hasn't been destroyed. Lord Aurelius of the Righteous Endeavor both rejoices and laments. Were this a normal battle, he would have driven the EMPEROR'S enemies into retreat and could have been said to won the day. But this is not a normal battle. The EMPEROR'S enemies must be crushed underfoot! The Enterprise dithers about. It is incapable of engaging the Righteous Endeavor directly, but they can at least scan it and learn more about it, as well as work on plans for how to retrofit Federation technology with Imperial tech. They also need to find some way of contacting the Avenger, wherever it went. Naturally, it's Wesley Crusher who comes up with a way to do that. Because of course it is. The hyperspace beacons that Enterprise detected are constantly sending FTL signals between each other. If they can approach one and learn how it works, they might be able to send their own signals through it. If the Avenger is connected to it, then it willI be able to pick up the signal, kind of like a spider noticing the vibrations in its web. The Enterprise tests this, and discovers it to be true. Contact is reestablished with the Avenger, and the engineering departments of both ships begin coordinating as best they can across the void. Anonymous 09/06/16(Tue)02:18:43 No.49199942 ► >>49199985 >>49200046 e: Brazen.jpg (869 KB, 1509x992) >>49199829 6. THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK After several weeks - with Lord Aurelius pulling his hair out of his head in frustration all the while, unable to detect the EMPEROR'S enemies and so serve as a conduit for His righteous fury - the Avenger and the Enterprise once again meet up and begin the process of retrofitting TIE fighters and bombers, using the Avenger's expansive hanger bay for the most part. One would think that this would be difficult, but it turns out not to be. Starfleet engineers are basically wizards, while the Avenger is the end result of more than 25,000 years of technological advancement geared towards ease of use: even a penniless smuggler can understand how a starship functions and keep it running, nevermind the best and brightest of the Empire's engineering corps (if Needa says so himself). The TIE/w fighters are field-tested and found to work quite well. Several kinks are identified, fixed, and tested once more: again, both ships are capable of operating for years without resupply. And at long last, the battle begins once again. It stars with the Avenger dropping out of hyperspace and rapidly deploying the TIE/w fighters. Due to the power needed to supply their retrofitted turbolasers, the TIE/ws are only capable of Warp 3, 4 in a pinch - but that is still far, far faster than the Righteous Endeavor can deal with. The TIE/ws literally fly circles around the Righteous Endeavor, its weapons unable to lock-on to the small, nimble craft. The turbolasers that have been outfitted onto them are still inferior to Imperium weapons overall, but when you have 72 of the buggers all firing continuously at one spot, they'll cause a hull breach eventually. O Anonymous 09/06/16(Tue)02:28:40 No.49200046 >49200109 >>49200131 File: 2285030-enterprise_meet_s(..).jpg (132 KB, 800x600) >>49199942 7. THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS That is exactly what happens. It's a battle that takes hours, but for the TIE/w pilots it's more like a chore than a struggle. The Enterprise had identified a relatively weak spot in the Righteous Endeavor's armor (most likely caused by age and inefficient repairs - it's almost like the Righteous Endeavor's crew don't really know how their own technology works) and the TIE/w pilots just pound away until the armor opens up, at which point they cut loose with proton torpedoes into the breach; the Enterprise shows up to add its own photon torpedoes to the mix. As thick as the armor of the Righteous Endeavor is on the outside, the inside is far less sturdy. The ship is crippled. Picard contacts the Righteous Endeavor, offering surrender to Lord Aurelius. Lord Aurelius only screams "for the EMPEROR!" and orders his ship to go full-speed at Avenger and Enterprise. This attack, however, proves fruitless. The TIE/ws and the Enterprise finish off the Emperor's ship, which is lost with all hands. Needa contacts Picard and thanks him for his help, but notes that he is now in possession of TIE/ws with weapons and FTL capable of meaningfully engaging the Enterprise. He regrets what will have to happen next, but his crew does have families back home. Picard notes that the Enterprise's crew also has families back home, and so doesn't like the thought of dying. Instead.. Picard offers the unconditional surrender of the Enterprise and her crew. If Captain Needa accepts, he will have "won" the three-way engagement, thereby allowing it to end without a need for any further bloodshed. Lorth Needa is the epitome of the best of the Empire's training - an officer and a gentlemen. He accepts the Enterprise's surrender. O Anonymous 09/06/16(Tue)02:35:12 No.49200131 ► File: Q_in_Judge_Robes_(Star_Tr(.).jpg (34 KB, 640x480) >>49200046 Suddenly, there is a flash - and the Enterprise re-appears in the Milky Way, the Avenger in the Galaxy Far Far Away, and the Righteous Endeavor in the 40k Milky Way. Q appears on the bridge of the Enterprise, noting that what Picard did almost feels like cheating and he probably shouldn't have let him get off that easily. Picard, however, notes that he's grown used to Q by now. Humanity is learning and growing all the time - more importantly, Picard remembers the last time that Q tried to teach him about humility. Although, speaking of... "It's not like you to repeat a lesson, Q," Picard notes. "What was the point of all this? What were you trying to make us prove this time?" "You?" Q asks. "Oh, Jean-luc. The world doesn't revolve around your shining head, no matter what you think. You can try and puzzle out why, if you like, but sometimes there just isn't anything to learn." Q disappears in a flash, and the end credits roll. Meanwhile, across time and space, in some otherdimensional weirdness, Tzeentch hands Q $2.50, noting that while the Imperium lost, the Federation didn't win, and so he doesn't owe Q the full $5. * O Anonymous 09/06/16(Tue)02:47:01 No.49200227 >>49200243 >>49200257 >>49200264 File: Untitled.png (74 KB, 334x258) >>49200109 WHY THE IMPERIUM LOST I don't see how an average, or even exceptional, psyker can detect something thousands of lightyears away (Avenger), and even if they could both Enterprise and Avenger had ways of avoiding the Righteous Endeavor anyway (Enterprise is just plain faster at tactical speeds; the Avenger was deep insystem and so would detect Righteous Endeavor arriving insystem and be able to make a quick retreat since they're not nearly as restricted by gravity wells). Imperium starfighters were irrelevant here. They never engaged TIE/Ins or TIE bombers, and would be no more capable of responding to TIE/ws than the Righteous Endeavor would be. The Imperium has no sensor tech worth noting. By comparison the Enterprise's sensor tech is some of the best in all of science fiction. The Imperium has actually forgotten how to build or maintain a huge portion of its technology. By comparison the crew of an Imperial Star Destroyer can be presumed to be roughly as component in maintenance as the crew of a US naval vessel, while the Federation's engineers are continuously noted as being "wizards" as technology. Note that transporters were not even once brought up in this whole thing, despite them opening up a huge tactical advantage for the Enterprise. Finally..the Empire is willing to work with others when need be. The Federation has working with others as one of its principle tenets. The Imperium, meanwhile, xenophobic to its core and utterly incapable of working with others except in exceptional circumstances. Any three-way fight between the Empire, the Federation, and the Imperium is going to see the Federation and the Empire teaming up and pooling resources simply as a matter of course. SPOILERS

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O Superpower Serum Anonymous 12/21/21(Tue)02:14:56 No.82656869 >>>82656937 >>82656952 >>82657435 >>82657487 >>82657580 >>82657807 >>82657891 >>82658690 >>82658821 >>82661934 >>82662075 >>82662161 >>82669146 >>82671407 >>82672976 >>82674599 >>82678743 >>82679137 >>82680871 >>82681390 Let's say there's a serum that, upon injection, either grants you superpowers or just f------ kills you dead. What would be the ratio of death versus success before the majority of people decide not to take it? 50-50 odds? 60-40? 70-30? 9 in 10? O Anonymous 12/21/21(Tue)02:26:13 No.82656941 >>82657024 >>82659040 >>82675765 >>82656937 Makes sense, but what would be the ratio of success / horrible death that you were willing to accept? O Anonymous 12/21/21(Tue)02:29:20 No.82656952 ► >>82656999 >>82656869 (OP) Powerball lottery odds to be superman would still wipe out 20% of the population. O Anonymous 12/21/21(Tue)02:37:12 No.82656999 ► >>82656952 I say go for it. There are legions and legions of unhappy people just muddling through life who would an hero for a one in a million. Would make interesting superheroes and villains, they were just sad sack office drones and now they can make themselves into whatever they please. Sort of a lamp shading of the fantasy inherent in capeshit to begin with. How would the world react to millions of people checking out for that shot at changing their life? What would a person who was willing to take those odds become if they got lucky? O Anonymous 12/21/21(Tue)03:50:40 No.82657435 ► >>82657709 >>82656869 (OP) Some people would take the serum even if it was a one in a million chance of not dying. Most ordinary people would not go for it if they understood the risk and it was about two percent (they imagine themselves immune to one percent risks). Governments would ban it if it injured or killed more than one in ten thousand. They would try to control it regardless of lethality if superpowers are super enough to potentially change the balance of power between nations. O Anonymous 12/21/21(Tue)03:56:51 No.82657487 ► >>82656869 (OP) I wouldn't go for it even with a practically non existent risk but that's from the perspective of living in our current world. In a M&M's world were presumably there's a lot more danger and a lot of friends and relatives of people who have fallen victim to villainy then I can imagine even an 80% risk of death would still see a decent enough uptake to for teams of vigilantes but would be dangerous enough to keep most people away from it. Too many people with things to live for. O Anonymous 12/21/21(Tue)04:09:58 No.82657580 ► >>82656869 (OP) Serum rapidly becomes illegal and difficult to acquire, as it turns out its bad PR for the government to let people take a medication that has a stated-on-the-label 1/X chance of just f------ killing you. More over, powerful interests probably go after the serum manufacturers, as serum gives an enormous increase in chance that someone with a reason to oppose them gets the resources to do so. Even if one of these power interests chooses to use the serum on their own people, they either restrict its use to the most loyal members and kill off their loyalist base for a chance of winning the roulette, or they scattershot and take chances trying to exert authority over a bunch of people on a (super)power trip. O Anonymous 12/21/21(Tue)04:45:58 No.82657807 >>82657815 >>82656869 (OP) It could be 1 to a million, and the line for people willing to take it would wrap around the city multiple times. O Anonymous 12/21/21(Tue)04:46:55 No.82657815 ► >>82657837 >>82657807 I think that line would thin rapidly as the corpses began piling up. O Anonymous 12/21/21(Tue)04:48:50 No.82657837 >>82657866 >>82657815 Those corpses were just NPCS. YOU on the other hand, are the destined protagonist of this story. O Anonymous 12/21/21(Tue)04:53:50 No.82657866 ► >>82658373 >>82657837 Sure l'll say that as I approach the super-serum tent. Then, as I smell the burning hair from the crematorium and see the row upon row of dead bodies, doubt creeps into my mind. O Anonymous 12/21/21(Tue)06:29:05 No.82658373 >>82658426 >>82657866 You say that, but the guy right in front of you in the line? He just ascended like a glorious golden comet and soared off into the horizon on wings of phoenix fire. That could be you. If you're lucky, THAT COULD BE YOU. O Anonymous 12/21/21(Tue)06:38:48 No.82658426 ► >>82658373 It doesn't matter what the reward is if the gamble is with my life and nearly certain to kill me. My life as an ordinary person is not too bad. All the desperate suicidal people can have my place in the line. Besides, although it makes no difference mathematically, I intuitively assume the chances of two people surviving in a row is low and turn down the dose if the guy before me makes it. O Anonymous 12/21/21(Tue)13:12:31 No.82662161 ► >>82664726 >>82665754 >>82656869 (OP) You can't break it up like that. Different population segments accepts different level of risk. Young men have the highest level of risk taking, and are also the group you'd least want having superpowers. They might go for 50/50, with a not insignificant amount going for worse odds like 40 or even 30. Elderly women are the most risk averse, and would probably not want superpowers in the first place. Middle aged men are the second most risk-taking group, and would likely settle for 70, if they want superpowers in the first place. A general trend is also that the lower your general education and financial stability, the more risks you're willing to take. Women are in general pretty risk averse, with young women being the most risk-taking among their gender. I can't see them accepting odds worse than 80. It declines with age, so middle aged women would only take 90 and above. Again, I want to stress that many people wouldn't want superpower in the first place. It's fun to think about, but when it comes down to it most people just wants to live their lives peace. Also, a society where everyone theoretically has access to superpowers would be awful. The desperate souls with guns and knives are now flamethrowers or radioactive. O Anonymous 12/21/21(Tue)16:09:05 No.82664726 ► >>82669115 >>82662161 >>The desperate souls with guns and knives are now flamethrowers or radioactive. Which is why the serum would quickly produce a huge number of low-level villains and get banned. If the serum keeps turning mentally unstable social outcast into human flamethrowers it doesn't matter how many bright eyed super heroes it produces. Interestingly enough, if super powers are primarily associated with low-status, financially insecure and mentally unstable people, they would quickly become stigmatized by society. Everybody just assumes you are homeless if you have a super power. O Anonymous 12/21/21(Tue)17:23:19 No.82665754 ► >>82665935 >>82662161 This is a self-correcting problem, men will no longer so desperate if demographically, they're twenty percent of the population to women's eighty and market value reacts accordingly. O Anonymous 12/21/21(Tue)17:36:09 No.82665935 ► >>82667798 >>82665754 That's not very likely to happen, though. It seems the roughly 50/50 split is very stable among humans. O Anonymous 12/21/21(Tue)19:40:27 No.82667798 ► >>82665935 it will if the men keep killing themselves to get superpowers O Anonymous 12/21/21(Tue)21:27:38 No.82669115 >>82672415 >>82664726 If you've got a superpower and those people with homes don't, why not just take theirs? What're they gonna do, they're powerless. O Anonymous 12/22/21(Wed)05:25:13 No.82672415 ► >>82669115 Thank you for making my point. That line of reasoning would be common among such super individuals. It leads them to becoming just one more item on the evening news: super-squatter evicted by the super-Man, two dead and fifteen injured. O Anonymous 12/21/21(Tue)21:31:13 No.82669146 >>82656869 (OP) It'd need to be >99% chance of superpowers for me to consider it. My life's pretty good and l'd be reluctant to risk that (and put my wife/family through that loss) just for a chance to fly around with my pants on the outside. Of course, a world where 1/100 depressed NEETS suddenly gain world-changing superpowers might swiftly turn into the sort of hell where l'd need to reconsider said value judgement. O Anonymous 12/22/21(Wed)07:13:24 No.82672976 ► >>82656869 (OP) People are really terrible at understanding odds. This is disproportionately true for people on the lower end of IQ. I would guess: 5-10% of the population would take it no matter the odds. These are the dregs of society whose only hope of being rich and successful with good looking women is a long shot. 1 in 200 million odds? They would still hope for that winning lottery ticket. So being conservative, assuming the entire world has access to the serum, 5 billion *5% gives 250 mil willing to take it. if the odds are 1/500k then you might end up with 500 or so superheroes/supervillains. Depending on their powers that is way more than enough to completely f--- everything up. O Anonymous 12/22/21(Wed)17:48:15 No.82679137> >>82656869 (OP) How diluted can it get before failing is a better question because someone is going to spike a city's water supply at least once. O Anonymous 12/22/21(Wed)20:36:15 No.82680871 >>82656869 (OP) The likelihood of gaining superpowers increases with purity and concentration of the serum, but so does cost per dose - and exponentially at that. On top of that, it's only the likelihood of gaining superpowers that increases, there is no guarantee of potency or usefulness of superpowers. O Anonymous 12/22/21(Wed)10:37:40 No.82674599 >>82656869 (OP) >implying that if the risk of death would be far greater, people won't just use it as a way to off themselves O Anonymous 12/22/21(Wed)17:14:23 No.82678743 >>82656869 (OP) I'd say 10% working right, 30% working, but with major side effects, 30% mutating you into some horrible monster, and 30% getting murked

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