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Everyone likes: Big, expressive eyes Overall simplicity in the design language (see "elaborate" note above.) Tiny Pegasus wings on the hooves A little heft/sturdiness vs. overly delicate/fragile-can be strength/sinew or just stockiness depending on pony type, just no frail ponies with legs that look like newborn fawns.) Experimenting with hairstyles (will get you specific notes) Body Styles - Everyone seems OK with the idea that the Mane 6 can all have different body styles and shapes-they don't all have to be the same size or build, and we think that the variety can help enhance personality and storytelling (ex when we were in the 11th hour of AJ convos, I asked the group if hypothetically, they'd feel differently about her if she were smaller than everyone... maybe she's called "Apple" because she was the size of an apple when she was born, and she's been overcompensating for her diminutive stature ever since? She's smaller than her friends, but she makes up for it by being super tough and super scrappy.) It obviously doesn't have to be THAT, but having some sort of story to back up not only design choices but also personality characteristics got everyone to a more interested, more accepting place. It turned into "tell me more" where before it was "let's kill Apple Jack.") Applejack - so in that vein, she's REALLY polarizing even within our own walls. Everyone agrees we need to keep her, but are open to changing her name (Apple? AJ? Something derivative of Apple but with fewer "farm" implications) AND her cutie mark. I think the big takeaway with her is that she's WAY too horsey in all the concept art we've seen, and that she 100% should not be associated with anything country/farmy/western/hick-ish/etc. Open to the idea that she's smaller Open to the idea that maybe she's had a more hardscrabble, urban upbringing (is there a "wrong side of the tracks" in the land formerly known as Ponyville?) or something of that ilk-I think whatever her backstory is, it needs to be one that has you rooting for her from the start, possibly because she's a bit of an underdog, or she has to work a bit harder than everyone else... Let's play with color palette AND hair. Can we add a red streak ala Sunset Shimmer if we play up the "bad girl" idea? COULD she start out as bad-ish, and have a bit of a redemption story like Tempest's? Maybe she and Twilight don't get along at all when they set out on this quest? Anyhoo... Body color can't be brown/tan- open to not being orange/apricot if something else works better Forms - As I'm sure you gathered, the group is VERY unconvinced that we can change the types of ponies the M6 are.. but again, like in the example above, they warmed up to it when there was SUPER clear story to back it up. They REALLY warmed up to Fluttershy as a unicorn, and are lukewarm at TS as an earthpony... they HATE Pinkie as a Pegasus. (Gretchen AND Chappie, specifically.) They're open to being convinced, which is great, but I'd pay particular attention to those characters for next time we're in front of everyone. And the argument wasn't that kids wouldn't know them or accept them, it was "don't change characters that don't need fixing." They don't' think the reasons outlined are valid, but I think we can get there. That said - Gretchen also was ready to make one of them a boy and another a seapony, so I'm not sure how married we are to these convictions. Boys - Everyone is on board with the idea that we can/should have boy characters along for the journey. They like the early thinking that maybe a boy from each world tags along with a twosome. Caution that they not feel like the "token" male, or get too "goofy sidekick," but open to them being very funny. Doesn't mean we've got a Mane 8, rather, we've just added 2 engaging support characters to the cast. I don't think there's any issue there. Peers vs. Heroes. -heroes turned out to be the wrong word to use as it evoked too much Avengers/Superman thoughts for our extremely literal participants, but I think we've deduced that we want them to be ASPIRATIONAL vs. the same age. (Although Jamal really, REALLY wants to eventually have flashbacks where we see them as babies.) Cutie Marks -the idea that these exist is key, but no one feels married to the current versions of the cutie marks... particularly where the symbol isn't necessarily directly tied into a defining personality trait. You definitely have some room to audience. With the exception of SL, who thought our current characters were 9 years old, everyone else assumed that our current M6 were teens/young adults, and everyone seems comfortable keeping the new iteration the same ay

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Eh, it could work. AJ's problem has always been that she's difficult to write for. She basically doesn't have anything she really wants and is comfortable with her lot in life, as well as being arguably the most stable, adult member of the Main Six.

That makes her a great supporting character, but her individual episodes are understandably lacking. They either have to manufacture a problem that comes off as contrived or change her character so that it doesn't ring true.

Changing AJ so that she's a "bad girl" solves both problems.

The issue is that she'll be AJ in name only. In fact, it seems like the Main Six will all be In Name Only. If that's the case, why not just create a new cast entirely? Go with a completely fresh slate there. It'd even open up possibilities of cameos from FiM Main Six.

I can't say I like the idea of pegasus wings on the hooves, though. That seems a rather silly and stupid redesign.

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