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Sonic the Hedgehog (2020 Film) - The Great Lange goes into detail about deep Sonic Lore, Tyson Hesse confirms

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The Great Lange @GreatLange - Feb 13 Seeing people/reviews say that the Sonic movie "opted for being widely enjoyable instead of being faithful to the source material". I do not understand this idea that enjoyable and faithful are at odds. That's saying Sonic is not enjoyable and has to be NOT Sonic to be enjoyed. O 17 ♡ 601 27 129 Tip The Great Lange @GreatLange Feb 13 This mentality has plagued not only the Sonic franchise but other franchises. Sonic was already made to be widely enjoyable. Why use a popular IP if you're just going to change it? Is it not popular for what it already was? Then how does making it something else make any sense? O 195 A Tip 27 16 The Great Lange @GreatLange Feb 13 I've also often seen it said that a straight adaptation of a game like Sonic to a movie would be boring. This is not a problem with the material, there's a ton to work with even in the classic games. This is a problem of lacking imagination and knowledge of the source material. ♡ 170 27 11 Tip The Great Lange @GreatLange · Feb 13 For anyone actually trying that argument, please tell me how a buddy cop flick in irl San Francisco is less boring than a fantasy world filled with mystical lands, ancient civilizations, futuristic cityscapes, and humans vs nature pivoting around the powers of life and gods. ♡ 180 A Tip 27 20 The Great Lange @GreatLange Feb 13 That said I've been surprised by some things being kinda faithful. It's clear that some people involved did some homework and tried to do more that was probably met with corporate meddling. Jim Carrey understands Eggman's character very well based on the interviews. 27 10 ♡ 172 A Tip The Great Lange @GreatLange · Feb 13 I say all this without having seen the movie yet but I'm going to soon and l'll continue this thread to share my thoughts on it (while omitting spoilers). It'l be difficult because there's so much to address while trying not to unpack and explain all of Sonic's source material. 27 8 ♡ 134 4 Tip The Great Lange @GreatLange Feb 17 I've seen the Sonic movie. Holy moly. I'm very surprised. There is a lot to talk about here. However most of this has to do with the first few minutes, which was fantastic. If the entire movie was like that, I would've loved it. The rest is a mixed bag, but not bad. ♡ 163 27 27 Tip The Great Lange @GreatLange Feb 17 What I said initially about reviews calling it unfaithful? Turned out to be a great irony. It's not that people are recognizing the movie as unfaithful. It's that it's so faithful people don't even recognize it. No one even understands what they're seeing. It's on another level. O 162 27 29 Tip The Great Lange @GreatLange Feb 17 To address this at all I have to address a bigger topic that I was saving for a more substantial outlet like a video, but now is a good opportunity to start out, especially now that I can do so from a more positive place. We're going to talk about Sonic lore. ♡ 121 27 20 A Tip The Great Lange @GreatLange Feb 17 First I need to establish something important: THE ORIGINAL SONIC GAMES HAD A STORY It is often believed Sonic originally had no story and that the characters were mute. This is not true. Everything seen in game was an expression of a more comprehensive vision Sonic Team had. 27 43 ♡ 198 Tip The Great Lange @GreatLange Feb 17 Even Sonic 1 had a story. They had a plan that included cutscenes in the game which were scrapped only due to constraints. So for the original games, they told some of the story in the next best place they could: the instruction manuals. SONIC "RESE NTR (ストーリー) STORY 悪の天才科学者ドクターエッグマンが、また悪だくみを抱きはじめた。「ソニック……あのいまいましい、生意気ハリネズミめ。あいつのお陰で、ワシの偉大なる計画はいつも台無しになるのだ。今度こそ、ワシの科学の力でひねりつぶしてくれる7フッフッフ……」 ♡ 185 27 34 Tip The Great Lange @GreatLange Feb 17 However, only the contents of the Japanese manuals and other material directly from Sonic Team are canon. Localizations ignored all of this and made up their own things, so basically the contents of the manuals, comics, cartoons, ads, etc outside of Japan/ST, are not canon. ♡ 138 27 23 Tip The Great Lange @GreatLange Feb 17 Not many fans even know about this source material, and the localizations and adaptations have endlessly confused the concept and canon. However, translations of the manuals and other material are easily accessible if you actually look for them. Yes, Sonic had a true canon. The evil scientist Doctor Eggman has begun hatching another evil plan. "Sonic.. blast that annoying, impertinent hedgehog. My great plans are always spoled thanks to him. This time, I'll pinch and crush him with the power of my sciencel Heheheh.. This is South Island, a treasure trove of jewels and historic relics. And it is also said that this is the island where the illusionary "Chaos Emeralds" lay dormant. Chaos Emeralds are a super substance that gives energy to all living things. Furthermore, they can also be used as nudear weapons or high energy laser weapons by science and technology. However, no one knows how to obtain them. That is because South Island is an island that moves around and the Chaos Emeralds exist within the distortions created by the island. One day, crisis visited upon the island. Doctor Eggman and his gang got down on the island. "Hmph... I will obtain the Chaos Emeralds, even if I have to dig up this entire island for them." Doctor Eggman built a huge fortress in the corner of the island and started development. "That blasted Eggman. He still won't learn his lesson!?" Sonic came running after hearing rumors. Doctor Eggman's trouble-making is nothing new. Up until now, Sonic dealt with him every time. It appears that Doctor Eggman thinks of Sonic as his arch-nemesis, but he was ♡ 189 27 37 Tip The Great Lange @GreatLange · Feb 17 Sonic Adventure did not randomly conjure a story, or suddenly decide the characters can talk, or have humans pop into Sonic's world. It is not a reboot. It is another episode in the story they had been telling all along, only now directly presented in the game. 27 39 O 196 Tip The Great Lange @GreatLange · Feb 17 There is a much thinner line between the classic games and Adventure than many seem to think. Sonic was not haha silly old timey cartoon then suddenly hardcore anime cheese. Classic Sonic was essentially a shonen anime, and Sonic Adventure was just a sharper version of that. Sonic was influenced more by anime than western cartoons. It's closer to Dragon Ball, Lupin, Ghibli, etc than it is Mickey Mouse. Sonic Team crafted a world and story like a shonen anime that progres sed from classic to adventure. SONIC ADVENTURE The progression from classic to adventure is similar to this It is NOT this: WALT DISHEY'S O 12 ♡ 518 27 167 A Tip The Great Lange @GreatLange · Feb 17 I'm not going to dive into all of the lore here; there is way too much to cover in a twitter thread. I am going to bring up a few specific things relevant to what was shown in the movie and give you all some theories to chew on. Hold on kids it's time for some Sonic lore. O 124 27 14 Tip The Great Lange @GreatLange Feb 17 Some have noticed South Island was depicted. It's frustrating and disheartening that fans rarely even know about South Island, it should be common knowledge. The movie had already impressed me with this, because it was a sign they researched Sonic much deeper than the surface. ♡ 266 27 51 Tip The Great Lange @GreatLange Feb 17 They somehow even arrived at the same theory I did that South Island was once home to a bird civilization. The owl and echidna tribe being on South Island confused viewers but these things actually tie into the lore incredibly well. I hope this is more than amazing coincidence. 600 SCORE TME D:57. RINGS 25 SCORE TIME 0:03 RINGS O NA SOHIC Birds birds birds all over South Island and decorating Labyrinth Zone (owls?) Early in Sonic 2's development, the game took place on South Island Aquatic Ruin Zone was originally part of Green Hill Zone and look, birds 27 76 O 15 O 425 Tip Tyson Hesse @tyson_hesse Replying to @GreatLange Definitely not a coincidence. They knew about all of this. 6:42 PM - Feb 17, 2020 · Twitter Web App 300 Likes 30 Retweets The Great Lange @GreatLange · Feb 17 Replying to @tyson_hesse Thank you. I'm very glad to hear that. ♡ 45

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Jokes Joestar 👌ꙮ

Jokes Joestar 👌ꙮ

Feb 20, 2020 at 05:49AM EST

The writers for the movie to all the American fans, evidently:

Also, can you imagine the butterfly effect that could have happened if the original Sonic had those cutsenes/the original story translated properly
Literally the entire American Sonic canon would be different
We might not have even had Penders, Chris-Chan, or Pingas, can you imagine?

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Scavger

Scavger

Feb 20, 2020 at 04:13AM EST

Wow..If only the same thought and care for the lore was for Star Wars….It still hurts.

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