Gambito 2011 Why! 14 hours ago SaveTF2 is starting to get out of control, they are starting to get crazy to the point of wanting to boycott a game that hasn't come out yet and even starting to leave negative reviews for TF2 itself and even other valve games that have nothing to do with TF2 The only thing they will achieve is that if they continue leaving negative reviews for other valve games, they will make the rest of the communities start to hate the TF2 community for wanting to get to valve in a stupid way like reviewing other games negatively when the rest of the communities (L4D2, CSGO, Dota 2 and soon deathlock) have nothing to do with the problems that TF2 currently has If you want to save this 17-year-old game that hasn't received updates for almost 7 years, first don't start attacking other communities or trying to boycott the company's new game and wait for Valve to respond or do something the friggler (official) 6 hours ago "wait for Valve to respond or do something" Lol. Lmao even. People have been waiting for Valve to do something for SEVEN, count 'em, SEVEN years now. If you just "Wait for Valve to do something," you're gonna be waiting until the heat death of the wwwwww universe. Valve isn't gonna just "do something" if we just sit and wait a little longer, Imao. Ktulu846 hours ago this community absolutely does not deserve any type of fixes. I am okay with negative reviews on tf2 but holy cow, you need to be mentally insane to give a negative review to Portal 2 because of TF2. This isnt even a joke, i am lost for words reggae 2 hours ago stop with the negative reviews Dat Won't Prove anything to valve dat we want to force them to get rid of bots go play some community servers instead cuz by the sandwich sake you guys like the casual and competitive modes than the community servers like what is special about casual and competitive anyway? SavageJack_ 39 minutes ago If the #FixTF2 people wanted actual change they would shut down community servers. No hate to the community for caring, but you can't expect change if you are giving a free solution while bringing up a problem. If Uncletopia and other community servers actually coordinated they could arrange weekly blackout days and turn off the community servers at the same time. Players won't care about the bot issues because anyone who understands the problem also has access to a free solution. Valve also doesn't care about the problem because the people who are bringing it up are also solving it for free. The only real solution is to take actions that drop the player count and get TF2 off steam charts' most played games list. Last edited by SavageJack_; 38 minutes ago rocketgreentea May 26 4:19pm If you guys want to actually make a difference Stop buying cosmetics. Actually stop. I know you have an addiction to playing dress up In this 17 year old FPS but please take a break. Literally just don't buy stuff for a month or two, you can do that can't you? Is the urge for you to spend money on this game so high that you can't stop spending money for two months? Why do big YouTubers like Shork promote spending tens of thousands of dollars on this game when it is in this terrible state? A petition and a hashtag won't do anything, be real. You have to hit them where it hurts, so for the love of god even it's for just two months stop buying worthless cosmetics. OVERWHELMINGLY NEGATIVE! in a span of very few days, the game's recent reviews went from mixed to overwhelmingly negative. do you think valve will see what's going on? Smurgle 1 hour ago I imagine Valve either won't acknowledge it at all or they'll mark is as review bombing (which to be fair, it is) and it'll go away. Dre014 PSA: We have to drown out their hate. NEVER stoop to their lows, TF2 Community. So this is a bit of a somber but necessary post I thought I share with all you out there still fighting the good fight for us: we have to cooldown for a bit now. Stuff is tough, especially since it seems that the whole "SaveTF2" thing fell through, but one thing I urge you all to do is NOT give in to the hate. The people making posts here, spewing nonsense out how we are "dead" now are JUST NOISE. Nothing more. If you have to resort to insults, loudness, curses words, and more negative stuff just to get your point across, you have already lost any argument you had planned. Professionals (have standards ;)) and know better than to feed a troll who refuses to talk on reasonable a reasonable level (proper respect, no belittling, etc.). No sensible person should ever give ANY attention to a fool who will just drag them down to their level and beat them with experience. It's not worth it now. Trust me. This will of course take a LOT of mental effort since their are a lot of them but remember, it's the Internet. Anyone can go on here, hide behind their username, and try to get the attention their parents never gave them or something. We good people on the other hand are many. 200,000+ people signed that petition. That should be more than enough to tell you we all cared from the bottom of our hearts for this game dudes. We just now have to wait to see if Valve truly noticed us too and gives us an answer (God willing, finger crossed). But even if not, I believe that continuing to fight for this will result in our victory someday. Times will change and eventually people will begin to step up for the greater good again. Let's not let one fall and setback stop us. If our fighting is sure to result in victory then we must fight. We have lived on for 17 years lads, if that isn't proof enough to keep fighting then I don't know what is. Stay strong lads :) > Big Tuna▾ Jul 12, 2023 @ 8:53pm what the heck is with all the kogasatopia hate? what did kogasatopia ever do to you? The author of this topic has marked a post as the answer to their question. Click here to jump to that post. poongoolie (rip heavy crew) 1 hour ago O It's insane to plaster one of the best fps of all time with awful reviews because an 18 year old game isn't in perfect condition. It's pretty disrespectful. Originally posted by ♥deadlockwaitingroom❤: Uncle Dane told them to hate it.

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Update as of July 3rd PROCEED WITH CAUTION As of July 1st, Valve has taken extensive measures to alleviate Team Fortress 2's botting crisis. While we as a community are incredibly grateful for the actions being taken, many of us believe that further evidence is required to warrant a newfound sense of confidence in game's future. If Bots Remain Gone By the Summer Update: These efforts require persistent and continuous upkeep, otherwise we run the risk reverting back to a bot-infested status quo. As the Summer Update draws near, Team Fortress 2 consumers should be heavily encouraged to adjust their spending habits and/or review scores based on whether or not these anti-bot measures continue. This would be great news! However, we must keep in mind that malicious actors have a heightened incentive to host bots during periods of major player-excitement. Before jumping the gun on any in-game or Steam market purchases, we highly recommend waiting on much more additional proof that bot accounts are being met with swift and consistent action. Examples include; game-bans, community bans, and/or account deletion. If Bots Return Before or After the Summer Update: We recommend withholding all monetary investment from TF2 until the issue has been resolved. Team Fortress 2 deserves to be in a playable state before players resume supporting the product financially.

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$I grow weary of this f------ forum and, frankly, deliberately antagonizing people while airing out my legitimate grievances isn't funny anymore. here's a moderately sized list of every reason you SHOULDN'T support fixtf2 1) team fortress 2 is older than the majority of the people currently pushing this inane movement and is INFAMOUS for its spaghetti code. do you want to work on a game this old, shambled together using awful duct-tape fixes for everything? no, no one does. 2) developing functioning anticheat is a cat-n-mouse game at best and a sisyphean task at worst;, not even massive companies with several thousand employees can develop anticheat for modern games that remains undefeated, even kernel level anticheat can be bypassed these days, the treadmill work simply isn't worth it. considering tf2 barely breaks even money-wise 3) valve is a privately traded company, your complaning will to nothing to shift their actions, the only reason review bombing worked for helldivers 2 is because sony is publicly traded, meaning they had to answer to their shareholders. shareholders can sue the hell out of any company that isn't living up to expectations, thus sony had to buckle to the community, valve has no such weakness, steam alone makes so much money that a complete and total boycott of the tf2 marketplace wouldn't even make a fraction of a dent in their overall profits. 4) valve's unique horizontal structure guarantees that nobody will work on t12 unless they want to be fired. in place of middle/upper management, valve has cliques and ego-driven senior devs that judge your decisions, choosing to work on tf2 instead of anything the senior devs prefer will almost certainly result in your termination from the company, that kind of work environment doesn't exactly facilitate the idea you can just get a job at valve and work on tf2 yourself. 76561199584261538- 46 minutes ago #FixTF2 Is killing tf2 The author of this topic has marked a post as the answer to their question. Click here to jump to that post. Originally posted by Telstra #KILLTF2: Originally posted by Paul: Either way the outcome will be a win/win. If they release updates, cool I guess. If they do nothing, game dies because people would finally realize Valve does not give a s---. If it gets removed from the store I get to laugh at all the traders who had valuable items There is a third outcome, Valve shutting TF2 down #SHUTDOWNTF2 sinjamin 50 minutes ago why do you guys care about saving tf2? the game is completely fine lol tf2 doesnt need saving, its perfectly fine. if youre complaining you should honestly stop being babies and just enjoy the game for what it is. valve wont lose money if you choose to complain, so quit yelling into the void 5) we already have proof that this is a MASSIVE waste of time across the board. remember the last two attempts to get valve to notice you? you got a tweet, a single tweet, you got some updates, some bug fixes, and that was enough to silence you entirely, nobody championing this movement has the attention span nor the backbone Showing 1-23 of 23 comments to make something like this work, even *IF* valve could be moved through community action these days. 6) the game is in no way unplayable. community servers exist and will continue to exist for the foreseeable future. saying tf2 is unplayable is a straight up lie. community moderation has unfortunate side effects (like facilitating the abuse of power if you disagree with them about anything), but it makes it far easier to outright ban any bots. tl;dr: t12 is old and full of spaghetti code so no one wants to fix it (and attempting to do so is very difficult) there's no such thing as good anticheat valve is privately traded so they can (and will) ignore your complaining valve's corporate structure disincentivizes working on tf2 there's no evidence the protestors even have the willpower to make this work community servers still exist and jannies, as annoying as they are, have more power to permaban bots overall fixtf2 is gay Paul 48 minutes ago I will scream about it just to spite you ▼sinjamin 47 minutes ago Originally posted by Paul I will scream about it just to spite you C good try then, because the game isnt going anywhere, you guys dont even play the game and youre crying Yesterday, I was informed (and have already tested) that as of the 64bit update, servers created with the -enablefakeip argument show up in the browser. This is a HUGE change that is simply too good to ignore. For details, you should read this amazing guide, but in short this means that setting up a public server is now easier than ever before. With -enablefakelp, you don't have to worry about neither port forwarding nor your IP falling into bad people's hands. As explained in the guide, which I again encourage you to read, you can either launch a local server (with the map mapname command or the "create server" button in main menu) or, if you want plugins and a lot more control, a dedicated one. If you're starting a local server, you'll need to use "sv_lan 0" and change the map once to make it show up in the browser as well as to connect to the item servers, and if you want a dedicated one, you'll have to set it up manually which isn't hard at all. Just follow one of the guides from the wiki: Windows Linux I don't know about you, but I've always wanted to try running a TF2 server with silly/amateur-made maps or plugins and play on them semi-seriously, just like in casual. And if you don't enjoy silly things like the many serious members of this forum, you are more than welcome to host your own thing that you wish to see. That's the kind of mentality I want to sprout from this. In a dream scenario where this idea takes off, maybe some people will even be making their own maps, plugins, mvm missions or host events where players will be able to submit their stuff. It will be pure, unadulterated community-made fun just like back in the day, and it will be awesome. The only downside of the -enablefakeip method is that the server's IP will be different every time it's launched, so sadly people won't be able to favorite it. At least, not unless a way to stabilize the IP is found or already known. For that reason and for the purposes of actually getting players on the server, I propose posting about it in this thread whenever you start one up. Previously I thought that it would be nice to use the desolate "looking for players" subforum for this, but nobody really goes there and hopefully the mods won't see it as advertising if it's all in one place. Additionally, if you're using a dedicated server, I think it's a good idea to use a tag specifically to mark these kind of "run by people, for the people" servers. I recommend "enablefakeip, savetf2, fixtf2". I know the last two are cringy, but it's already a well- established thing, so it wouldn't be hard to remember and would only garner more publicity. Ever since the failure of the first hashtag. I have been saying that the Team Fortress community is ironically awful at working as a team, so if you truly want to #save or #fix TF2 and prove me wrong, now would be the time to do it. EXALT 12 hours ago the sad thing is any new anticheat valve makes will ultimately just be a temporary fix as the bot hosters try to find away around it Valve also doesnt want to make the anti cheat to invasive so its kinda a lose lose situation$

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76561199584261538-Jun 3 @ 2:40pm Did fix tf2 fail yet? The author of this topic has marked a post as the answer to their question. Click here to jump to that post. Originally posted by George Floyd: hopefully. it's funny seeing them complain about my bots Showing 1-46 of 46 comments heal Jun 3 @ 2:42pm they'll give up in a week or so The author of this thread has indicated that this post answers the original topic. George Floyd Jun 3 @ 2:43pm hopefully. it's funny seeing them complain about my bots 76561199584261538▼ Jun 3 @ 2:44pm Originally posted by George Floyd: hopefully. it's funny seeing them complain about my bots Based MrToast29 ▼ 5 hours ago #fixtf2 is weird like i support getting rid of cheaters but do you really have to review bomb almost every valve game it makes the community look like crybabies Showing 1-1 of 1 comments calembredaine 5 hours ago respectable intent but sloppy execution imo #2 Xenon_Blaze 2 hours ago Imagine caring about casual Go play on community servers stop crying Femme Bunny 2 hours ago #FixTF2 Is a Joke If helldivers didn't actually do anything, what makes you think Valve will care about one of their least profitable games? SkullKid0155 | trade.tf 6 hours ago #FixTF2 is getting out of hand. The #FixTF2 movement has recently escalated, going from a protest to a battleground for harassment, accusations and humiliation, This is a reminder to all those involved that this movement is to advocate for the game to be fixed, not an excuse to cyberbully other innocent people. Lex 2 hours ago this is why tf2 wont get fixed just stop trying, they are trying to release deadlock and this 2007 game they are trying to bury to the ground isn't it obvious, no matter how bad the reviews get or the bot problem gets they do no CARE melvin sneedly #killtf2 11 hours ago the logic is literally just "HURR IT WORKED FOR HELLDIVERS SO IT'LL WORK FOR TF2 AS WELL". no deeper thought process, no true plan, it's just blindly copying something else without understanding why it worked. Jason. 11 hours ago also, even if TF2 was big enough for this to cause a dent on Valve, it still wouldnt matter, Valve is a private company and they make more than 90% of their revenue in Steam and Hardware sales. https://steamcommunity.com/app/440/discussions/0/4339860450391643636/ #1 Baking Chocolate 7 hours ago Just play community servers. If you really want TF2 to live just go play community servers cause Causal mode if dead and valve has no intention on fixing it and I doubt they even can due to TF2's spaghetti code, which attempting a fix can even open a pandoras box of bugs and glitches that would do more harm like it did on the 64 bit update. Not to mention that in a matter of time cheaters will get through much like the flu always gets pass the newest vaccination cheaters will bypass the new vac and I doubt valve will keep up with it. Yes I know the bot hosters have done some illegal and degenerate things but that doesn't mean SaveTF2 should be turned into some vigilante movement, infact I think that would only do more harm than good. And hell who knows they hosters might actually get bored and leave when we all just stop complaining like they want you to do, and since Community servers have 3rd party anti-cheat and moderators it would be tough to stage a bot attack against them, not impossible but it wouldn't last for as long as Casual. Jason. 11 hours ago I don't quite understand what review bombing the game is supposed to do I've heard people say that "It worked for Helldivers 2". The reason why it worked for that game it's because helldivers 2 is a huge revenue stream and a high priority to Sony, the game is also very popular so it was also bad for their reputation. TF2 is neither ot these things. TF2 is not that popular today for people outside of the tf2 community to care nor is it a high priority to Valve, hell even their biggest game CS2 is starting to get the same treatment that we do. So I don't quite understand what this is supposed to do in this situation Last edited by Jason.; 11 hours ago chaewonfan2473655 hours ago IM SUEING VALVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CANT EVEN PLAY THE GAME ANYMORE. THATS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM SICK AND TIRED OF THIS TREAT MENT. FIX IT OR ELSE I WILL!!! AND I MEAN I WILL!!! SUE THEM.

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Just some more threads that show how stupid this movement is. The ones on the top and center are especially noteworthy.

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TF2 steam threads expose not just how unorganized SaveTF2 is, but also how TF2 youtubers blatantly lie and propagandize information to get a stronger reaction and profit off of this movement

TL:DR: This movement (along with any movements like this in the future) will fail and always fail because the foundation these movements have set up is severely flawed. Do not support SaveTF2 or any similar movements. Do not support TF2 Youtubers who advertise these movements. Just don't trust anything relating to SaveTF2/FixTF2 at all.

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