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![I knew Zoe Quinn. (self.Drama) submitted 14 hours ago by [deleted] 1 I met Zoe about 2 1/2 years ago. I had a friend who wanted to date her, and he wanted my opinion of her. After spending some time getting to know her, she seemed really cool. She had big ideas and was extremely passionate. She even mirrored my opinions. You need to know that she's a chameleon. She's charming and can adapt to any environment. It's easy to trust her. This is all relevant to make you understand why people stand up for her. She makes everything she says seem genuine After I told my friend that she was cool and dateable and they started dating, things changed. Suddenly, she was using details from my life story, things that explain why I am who I am, in stories she was telling me. It was then I started to doubt the validity of other things she said (none of which I will share because that is not my place). As I started piecing together stories she told me over the time I knew her, things started not adding up. There were inconsistencies, and I started casually asking her about things when they didn't make sense with the narrative she had previously given This is when she started arguing the most minor things with me, which I assume was to try to discredit the questions I was asking. It also became obvious that she was trying to separate my friend from us (There were more people involved than just me, but I'm one of the only ones willing to risk this and deal with the fallout.) because she'd drag him into the arguments. Who's not going to side with their new So? She also started sharing extreme feminist ideas, which basically tore down men One day, I received an email asking what my problem with Zoe was. When I described the things she did, such as stealing bits of my identity (which I believe I just called lying and didn't get into details) and creating discord between us, my friend didn't see things my way. I even pointed out then that she is the type of feminist who uses feminism to get ahead and for hate. Instead of reading the words I used and the points I made, the response I received was only thatI hate her because she's a feminist. (FYI, I'm a feminist who knows that men are our allies and we need to work together.) I recognized the lying and manipulation pretty quickly (maybe 6-8 weeks in), so I don't have a more exciting or compelling story. Ever since then, I've had to sit silently and watch her be lauded for her strong principles and social activism. Anyone I told about her behavior, even if she had screwed them in some way, excused it mostly out of fear of losing a contact or a friend who happened to be friends with her. I don't care about her being punished or losing her status as a dev. It's not about that for me. It's about recognizing a hurtful person and that person learning and stopping it. I don't want people to harass her. I don't want people to harass her friends. I just want all the abusive behavior (from all parties) to end 1 COMMENT SOURCE SAVE HIDE GIVE GOLD REPORT HIDE ALL CHILD COMMENTS](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/818/656/03e.png "Another Zoe Acquaintance Comes Out")
![Kotaku investigates, clears Nathan Grayson over Depression Quest- he was the "onlyoat supposedly involved in the sex-for-reviews nonsense by neonomicon in GirlGamers 229 link karma 24 comment karma [-] justejille 1 point an hour ago* paul_33 wrote: What I think: the alleged abuse/cheating is awful. Sleeping with your married boss is gross. Claiming to be a feminist and making sayings like "cheating is r---!" then cheating makes you a hypocrite HOWEVER - none of this affects me. It does not affect you send message redditor for 2 months MODERATOR OF r/altscifi /r/altsciencefiction I'm only typing anything on this topic due to a random commenter attempting to trash-talk on the issue in my subreddit (a subreddit that's completely unrelated to the so-called Zoe Quinn Conspiracy) The quoted comment above almost saves me the trouble of writing anything on the topic I would add the s: TROPHY CASE what's this? following as a set of general remark using "moral indignation" as an excuse to attempt an Internet character assassination on someone else is hypocritical and itself highly immoral the parties involved (Zoe Quinn, her ex-boyfriend, and the five alleged adulterers -- at least one of whom is married -- whom she supposedly had sexual relations with) are the only ones who have any business dealing with her sexual infidelity there is no objective way to "prove" that her game sucks and therefore she must have slept with reviewers in order to receive high marks for the game. What "sucks" and what doesn't is a matter of personal opinion A large number of people with a shared opinion don't magically congeal into a measurable index of objective fact. In other words, a loud Internet mob does not equal a correct loud Internet mob misogynists are "white-knighting" (?) themselves and claiming that Quinn is using massive powers of conspiracy to suppress all media coverage of the issue; Quinn is being "white-knighted" (?) by many people who blindly believe that since she's a woman being harassed by misogynists, she is automatically an innocent torch-bearer for the cause of all things woman (and therefore "feminist", somehow). It's also worthy of note that she seems not to dissuade anyone from offering her the pedestal to stand on Verified Email username ssword remember me reset password . attractive-looking people, especially women, generate a polarity of envious hatred and unearned adoration Zoe Quinn neatly fits a niche social/sexual demographic for some people (purple hair, piercings, the ability to appropriate a "nerd" identity when it suits her, feigned "cute" authenticity through strategic awkwardness and casual proclivity for attention-seeking without seeming try-hard). Regardless of her looks and style Quinn seems not to be on the right side of morality from the "evidence" that her ex-boyfriend has amassed (and I confess to only cursorily having browsed, since I don't really care about random people's ntic/sexual fidelity i porters ign tho nts and run to her e just as mindlessly as the indignant trol e her reputation and Internet-cultivated persona eous fury, neither Misogynists are wrong for hating r in the for placing her on a pedestal as a first place as a female game developer. White knights and "feminists" a perhaps-pretty game developer who is "standing up against hegemony" when it's quite likely that she used her body as a way to advance her career What's a sensible answer? Options: discuss this ad on reddit daily reddit gold goal 72% . For game publishers: Pull her game(s) from circulation or withhold the funds she may have unfairly gained through deceptive or manipulative tactics (if those can be reasonably proved, and she fails to refute them) For journalists: Delete (or add a help support reddit tion/apology) undue tha . For the rest of the Internet: Allow those who have nothing better to do with their time to sit around arguing ore right" or "more bout this stupi bout who's "m overheated and unworthy-for-tabloid-fodder scenario in any case. Quinn will go on with her life (and gi arise regarding her reputation), and all those seeking entertainment from her misery will move on to the next purple-haired girl or other non-conforming target for their pseudo-righteous bullying, as they always have er eryo rge her impressive damage-control skills, she'll no doubt wil be able to explain awa uestions that And now anyone who visits my subreddit can read this in the Account Overview page so that I won't have to repeat it again The end permalink context full comments (191) 7:47 PM 8/22/2014](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/000/816/164/b35.png "Someone Finally Tells it Like It Is")
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