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![[-] cfabbro 759 punten 5 uur geleden* Sup qg... Several of our old mutual friends have been keeping me in the loop and from what they have been saying things are not looking good at reddit HQ. The higher ups (executives and board members) at reddit are totally out of touch with the community, knOthing included sadly. Ellen Pao barely even knows how to use reddit, let alone truly understand what makes it tick and what it needs to survive and the vast majority of the new hires rarely (if ever) interact with the community like the admins of old. And to top it off most of the current admins aren't even webdevs, software engineers or community team members hired from within the community anymore... they are outside hires, mostly marketers and middle management. Does all this sound familiar? This sort of non-core site functions staff bloat and loss of touch with the community is literally the exact same thing that happened at digg before v4. Apparently this all started with Yishan's retarded plan to close the NYC office (which may be why Victoria was fired, since she was the last remaining admin in NYC) and force all the remote working admins (other than those outside the US) to relocate to SF or be fired, which caused an exodus of talent and generated a lot of resentment even by the staff that were willing/able to move. The mood in the SF office has supposedly gotten steadily worse since then too thanks to some of Pao's bizarre decisions regarding hiring (she refused to honor several of Yishan's hires despite the fact they had already quit their jobs to join reddit), restructuring (can't say much other than she seriously f----- several long term employees over.. don't want anyone to get in trouble) and salary negotiations (according to her, women can't negotiate as well as men so nobody is allowed to negotiate their salaries anymore). Damnit... I really wish spez would come back and sort this s--- out. ...sigh... Biduepids bidiepids archive.is/MZeeG](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/987/151/9f0.png "Old Reddit mod on Reddit's happenings")
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![TPP related articles are not showing up in the r/news feed. I feel like this needs to be 888 known. [META] Aa submitted 15 hours ago * by Halfwayhome22 193 comments share sorted by: best ▼ you are viewing a single comment's thread. view the rest of the comments → H LuckyBdx4-809 points 9 hours ago The user used an alt account to whinge/whine His main account /u/creepyteepee was banned by reddit admins, not by us at Ir/news. FWIW the TPP is politics, we don't allow Politics in Ir/news. Regards the "d---" Ir/news moderator permalink embed parent H Commander2x2 395 points 9 hours ago FWIW the TPP is politics, we don't allow Politics in Ir/news. you're not fooling anyone. Almost every topic on the front page of Irlnews right now is about politics permalink embed parent H smashing3000 37 points 2 hours ago" Why don't you allow politics to be discussed or posted about in news? The two often go hand in hand permalink embed parent H siccoblue 7 points 27 minutes ago Because it doesn't count as politics if it's politics for his side permalink embed parent LuckyBdx4-746 points 9 hours ago In your humble opinion Ticket closed permalink embed parent wellnhoferia 385 points 7 hours ago What a f------ idiot. permalink embed parent H TrustworthyAndroid 108 points 4 hours ago I want to know how an Australian got put in charge of an american news subreddit. permalink embed parent H BiscuitEatingCookie 42 points 3 hours ago In all seriousness probably because he'd be awake to watch the sub when other (american) mods are sleeping permalink embed parent](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/983/368/0fe.png "Censorship on Reddit, everyone!")
![UNDELETESHADOw ot new risin controversial ilded wki promoted [#201 Lewis Black Endorses Bernie Sanders, Tells Bill Cosby to F Himself [politics] 1 comments (reddit.com) 8 submitted 7 hours ago by amProbablyPooping comment share 6] "The vote today-pushed by multi-national corporations, pharmaceutical companies and Wall Street-will mean a continuation of disastrous trade policies which have cost our country millions of decent 2 6 paying jobs," said Sanders, who voted no [politics] 6 comments (redlit.com) Submitted 6 hours ago by amProbablyPooping comment share ↑ #19 EL15: why IS the US concentrated on eliminating ISIS when there's drug cartels right in their back yard Mexico that kill more Americans annually than ISIS? expanlikeimfive 1017 comments ( 3 submitted 10 minutes ago by amProbablyPooping m) comment share ↑ #10 Net neutrality's biggest enemy now owns TechCrunch, Engadget and HuffPo: Verizon completes $4.4B acquisition of AOL technology 1021 comments ( 4 3 submitted 6 hours ago by amProbablyPooping ) comment share ↑ 5 [#12] A simple retort to the Pizza delivery guy.. AdviceAnimals 113 comments (reddit.com) submitted 35 minutes ago by amProbablyPooping comment share [#30] An overly modest friend of mine drew this entirely freehand. Can we show him some love? [Starwars 58 comments (reddit.com) 6 submitted 48 minutes ago by amProbablyPooping comment share 个胖24 I gave my cat a worm pil today and 30 min later he started hacking on the couch. I grabbed him and ran to the kitchen where he projectile vomited this up. W-- 1100 comments ( 7 om) submitted an hour ago by amProbablyPooping comment share [#2] Senate PassesTPA (TPP is now fast tracked) [worldnews] 118 comments (reddit.com) 8 6 submitted 10 hours ago by amProbablyPooping comment share ↑ [#14] Confederate Flag? AdviceAnimals] 629 comments (reddit.com) 9submitted an hour ago by amProbablyPooping comment share ↑ 9 #97] "oeRent a Crowd ◆ Company Admits Politicians Are Using Their Service [nottheonion 1004 comments Not Deleted (reddit.com) 10 submitted 13 hours ago by amProbablyPooping comment share #62] Reading a bookis interpretting ink stains on shreds of a dead tree and hallucinating about t. [Showerthoughts 123 comments (reddit submitted 2 hours ago by amProbablyPooping comment share ) 11 1 [#69] Dodgin that s--- BlackPeopleTwitter] 54 comments (reddit.com) 12 1 submitted 2 hours ago by amProbablyPooping comment share #15 Today WikiLeaks began publishing Espionnage Elysée", a collection o TOP SECRET intelligence reports and technical documents rom the NSA concerning targeting and signals intelligence intercepts 132 of the communications of high-level officials from suc [worldnews] 5 comments (reddit.com) submitted 9 hours ago by amProbablyPooping comment share [#7] The Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) Has Already Bought off Washington worldnews] 26 comments (reddit.com) 14 19 submitted 19 hours ago by amProbablyPooping comment share [#5] GCHQ and NSA broke antivirus software so that they could spy on people, leaks indicate [worldnews] 97 comments (reddit.com) 15 4 submitted 11 hours ago by amProbablyPooping comment share [#77] Artist makes a beautiful picture then changes it next comment to pulverize your good feels [bestof] 46 comments (reddit.com) submitted 4 hours ago by amProbablyPooping comment share 16 1 16 Former red light camera CEO pleads guilty to bribery, fraud in Ohio politics 1 comments (reddit.com](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/983/069/6c6.png "Thiongs that get deleted on Reddit")
![[Meta] This subverse represents the anger stage in the natural grieving process (self.MeanwhileOnReddit submitted 1 hour ago by SuperConductiveRabbi 12 I've seen a lot of comments in /N/meanwhileonreddit from confused users, who ask "why don't you just ignore Reddit? Can we please just stop talking about them now?" I want to reply and explain why I think this subverse has value, but I decided to do it in a self post instead Reddit is dead. Many of us loved Reddit, and were with it for a long time. When the recent changes started happening, perhaps you were like me, and had trouble letting go. You reasoned that the changes Ellen Pao announced could just as easily be reversed once some better leader steps in, and that the leader could also work to resolve the cancer that has infested even the crevices of that site and which has been left unchecked for a year or two. We saw the disease in Reddit and speculated that it could be excised, leaving Reddit as it once was--that Reddit was alive and healthy underneath the festering bits, and if someone in power could just cut them out, it could once again thrive and be the site we once loved. This was the denial stage I believe that /v/meanwhileonreddit is the anger stage. A person who is wholly unconcerned with the fate of Reddit would not care to poke fun at them, or observe them and shake their heads. They would already have moved on; they would already spend their Internet time elsewhere on Voat, participating in fledgling communities and rarely giving a thought to the site they came from. You might argue with this, and say that you're doing it just in good fun (and don't get me wrong: I like v/meanwhileonreddit--I find it cathartic). However, consider this: if you came from Slashdot before Reddit, did you ever try to find an Ir/meanwhileOnSlashdot, or r/MeanwhileOnFark, or Ir/MeanwhileOnStumbleUpon? I'm guessing no. I'm guessing your transition to Reddit did not require grieving, and your old site drifted out of your daily experience naturally For many of us, however, Reddit was taken away from us, when we considered ourselves among the core users. Even with the awareness of its decay (which certainly predated Ellen Pao by a good year or two) no one can say that Pao's killing blow to Reddit's unique value proposition wasn't sudden and alarming. She was suddenly the nurse of a patient that needed an intensive course of treatment, and, instead, she only made the sickness worse. She ignored the illness of powerusers, censorship on the frontpage default mods using the delete button like a downvote button, and, instead, she deleted legal content she found personally distasteful and made public appearances that flew the whole plane towards censorship, "safe space" free-speech chilling, and the tyranny of thought-terminating political correctness. I'm confident I'm not alone when I say that Reddit's primary value proposition was that it was an open discussion forum that promoted free speech on any (legal) content. To have the CEO claim that this value was worthless was sudden and alarming Thus, given the unpredicted and distasteful way in which we were made to transition from Reddit to another discussion platform, we were left with something of a grieving process. I think /v/meanwhileonreddit represents one of the final stages before we accept that it's gone and stop thinking about it at al the stage of anger. Seeing how SJWs act on Reddit, how they claim that anyone who doesn't support censorship must support child p---------- or racism, or how Ellen Pao can continue to lie to the website and agree that only people from "a toxic s-------" (FPH) are the only ones who were upset by the censorship--these things piss me the f--- off I think this is a natural part of the transition to Voat, and why /v/mor is actually valuable Conclusion, TL;DR: So, when you see posts in v/meanwhileonreddit, and you want to comment "I don't get it, can we just ignore Reddit already?" that's great. It means you're further along in seeing Reddit as just a site that lost its value, and you're ready to use Voat as it was meant to be used: without being constantly compared to a dysfunctional, damaged site. Not all of us are ready to bury Reddit, however, and need more closure than what Ellen Pao's coup de grace was able to give us. So l say there's value to be had in making fun of Reddit, getting angry at how it's being flown into the ground, and brainstorming ways we can prevent the same thing from happening here. The anger stage of dealing with the death of Reddit has value to Voat and to Voaters.](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/983/056/465.png "Censorship and reddit")
![you've been banned from /r/history subreddit message via /r/history/ sent 3 days ago you have been banned from posting to /r/history note from the moderators: Glamourising racist regimes is not tolerated on /r/history you can contact the moderators regarding your ban by replying to this message. warning: using other accounts to circumvent a subreddit ban is considered a violation of reddit's site rules and can result in being banned from reddit entirely. permalink report block subreddit mark unread reply re: Ban Appeal from Georgy_K_Zhukov [M] via /r/history/ sent 6 hours ago Rhodesia was a racist apartheid state. Period, end of story. Holding up the myriad issues found in modern Zimbabwe is a red herring that does not actually have anything to do that discussion. Defending the behavior and existence of Rhodesia is either racist or ignorant; only you know you which is true, and frankly I don't care to figure out which it is, but if the latter, you are welcome to research the issue, write an essay admitting the error of your ways and how you now understand just how terrible Rhodesia was, and maybe we'll consider unbanning you (Protip: This is a good starting place. If it is the former however, well, feel free to yell "censorship" all you want, but we don't really care, nor consider it applicable. /r/history is a place to discuss legitimate history, not post offensively racist propaganda. There are plenty of subreddit where you are welcome to praise Ian Smith till the cows come home, but this isn't one of them permalink report block user mark unread reply re: Ban Appeal from Quouar [M] via /r/history/ sent 6 hours ago they were fighting to protect their homes from exactly what is happening in Zimbabwe right now. This sort of rhetoric is exactly why you were banned. Rhodesia was a ferociously racist regime, not a heroic one. You will not be unbanned. permalink report block user mark unread reply](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/977/965/200.jpg "Zimbabwe critic banned for having a different opinion")
![↑ [Discussion] Should the limits of speech on the internet be decided by a handful of CEOs? (self.Kotakul Action) submitted 6 minutes ago by Namrok More and more lately, I see this same argument. "Reddit/Twitter/Facebook is a privately owned company. You are using it for free. They can permit or disallow whatever they want." It's hard to argue against such a myopic view. It's technically true But let me ask you this. In the 21st century, do we want the limits of speech decided by a handful of CEOs? Do we want to surrender truly free speech to platform holders only? We haven't just seen FatPeopleHate and other distasteful subreddits vanish. Weve seen a lot of legitimate research, critique and news vanish down the memory hole too. Individual subreddits have their unequally applied sort of true from a certain point of view reasons for vanishing articles their community clearly wants to discuss. But when they appear on other subreddits, they still vanish off rlall once the admins in San Francisco wake up in the morning. And using their media connections, I've seen almost every tech page I read cover this negatively I have never in my life seen the news defend a CEO which takes over a company, horribly misunderstands it's customers and culture, and runs it into the ground. Ever. It's entirely unprecedented. But they are defending Ellen Pao on blatantly ideological grounds, and it disgust me I can't believe my generation, the one that grew up with unfettered free speech on the wild west of the internet, grew up and went "We've outgrown offensive speech, now nobody else should get to enjoy it either." 4 comments share all 4 comments sorted by: best ▼ H sscat [score hidden] 3 minutes ago F--- no! The news media is the old guard, they want the internet destroyed so you come crawling back to them to watch/read their stuff. They want the internet dead and gone forever permalink H TheMindUnfettered Grand Poobah of GamerGate [score hidden] 2 minutes ago But let me ask you this. In the 21st century, do we want the limits of speech decided by a handful of CEOs? Do we want to surrender truly free speech to platform holders only? What alternative do you propose? The trend is for social interaction to concentrate on a few platforms, which means that the p who control those platforms are going to control social interaction. This is nothing new, really. Every time a platform becomes toxic, people just move onto a new one. Digg -> Reddit. eople reifenstag [score hidden] a minute ago wow, if only someone could think up an idea of a free market where people could choose to support or protest the companies they want to by using or boycotting them..](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/977/798/639.png "Discussion about how free speech should be handled")
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