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last page of Homestuck before the just released update

The final animation will be released 4/6. The final page will be released 4/13. Small updates are strewn from now and the final update. Post what you hope will be included in the updates and your thoughts on how Homestuck has overall turned out up till this point.

Homestuck had already lost a lot of steam during Act 5 and completely ground to a boring halt in Act 6. The best the last bits can hope do to is to rekindle the old interest the comic had already squandered away with pages and pages and pages of by the numbers teen angst.

edit: Although I would like it quite a bit if the felt murdered Jake right now.

Your name is SPADES SLICK. You are the leader of a notoriously stupid gang of mobsters called the FELT. Your previous gang known as THE MIDNIGHT CREW at some indeterminate point in the past all died off due to time shenanigans. Oh, how you loathe time shenanigans. Your long quest for revenge has finally taken you through the front door of the clock belonging to the host plush who in some gruesome manner gave birth to your gang's former boss, LORD ENGLISH.

See, this is the problem with all these hiatuses (hiati?) You stop reading when you get to the latest update, you slowly forget what the comic was about over the months, and then you get back and realize you don't know what the fuck is going on.

As for the actual updates themselves, I don't know where Hussie is going with this. I can't see how he can possibly wrap up all the loose ends with just six updates, one animation, and Act 7 (which iirc will just be a brief epilogue). Granted, he could leave most of the plot threads hanging and nobody would notice because nobody can keep track of them all, but that's beside the point.

There's not much point in worrying about what all the details are when barely any of them matter.

IMPORTANT [and spoilers too ya dumbfuck]: Vriska is running off to fight the super real Lord English
Aradia knows what's actually going on behind the scenes
Reality might collapse when all the bubbles explode when LE finally gets around to popping the last one…

NOT IMPORTANT:
All the other characters are fighting all the lame ass second rate villains that haven't been doing anything relevant in the story for months on end.

technically homestuck gained most of its fame when act 5 started, since thats when trolls were introduced.

unless you mean the story itself losing steam which is debatable.

act 6 is objectively where it got worse

I'm curious as to what you find bad about act 6 that is objective where any other downturns in quality would be considered subjective.

-12 more trolls who literally did nothing at all to advance the story in any fucking way except for one (who died right after doing something)

- retcon powers

- vriska is alive again (diminishing the importance of her death on other characters and making her the center of attention again)

- dream bubbles (diminishing the importance of death in any way and just being more filler)

- the cheesy and awful love drama storyline that was the alpha kids compared to the one of the beta kids

- plot advancing amazingly slower compared to any other act

- gigapause

- barely any exploration of the mechanics of sburb

- retcon powers erasing everything that happened on the meteor, deleting important character development

anything that act 5 did wrong atleast made up in its qualities, like being the act where most of the shit and action happened and where we got a whole lot of explanations and tying of loose ends

The thing about many of those points, though, is that they were already becoming present starting around Act 5 (although certainly to a lesser degree)

12 more trolls who literally did nothing at all to advance the story in any fucking way

How many of the original 12 trolls had impactful roles on the story relative to their screentime?

dream bubbles

Introduced in Act 5

the cheesy and awful love drama storyline that was the alpha kids compared to the one of the beta kids

While I think the love drama in Act 6 was certainly worse, romance being a focus of the story was something that was introduced with the trolls.

plot advancing amazingly slower compared to any other act

Just like how Act 5 was slower then Act 4.

gigapause

Act 5 had the giant break before the Cascade flash as well as many other smaller breaks.

barely any exploration of the mechanics of sburb

The importance of Sburb had already diminished with the increased focus on the trolls to the detriment of explaining the questing and powers and the other things.

Again I ask: what makes these things from Act 5 debatable but not so in Act 6?

You know, now that I think about it, Hussie mentioned a while back that he was planning another MS Paint Adventure after Homestuck that would be as big in comparison to Homestuck as Homestuck is to Problem Sleuth. Does anyone know if this hypothetical fifth adventure is still coming, or if Hussie plans to do anything at all with MSPA after Homestuck ends?

How many of the original 12 trolls had impactful roles on the story relative to their screentime?

kanaya, vriska and terezi were important during most of act 5 to the overall plot and terezi was important to the shitty retcon of Game Over. Gamzee was mostly character development for other trolls but his screentime was low (he became more important on act 6), and overall the rest of trolls advanced the plotline of alternia, then most of them lost a lot of screentime by the time of the arrival on earth, and then lost it all when eridan killed them all.

Only troll who had way too much screentime and little plot development during act 5 was karkat.

however during act 6 aside from gamzee, terezi and vriska other trolls were completely irrelevant, just like the 12 new trolls.

Introduced in Act 5

yet i specified it was their use in act 6 what made them bad

While I think the love drama in Act 6 was certainly worse, romance being a focus of the story was something that was introduced with the trolls.

same response from above

Just like how Act 5 was slower then Act 4.

yet it had more plot and action and character development than its predecessor had (except for LE and his rise in a dead session, really the best part of act 6)

Act 5 had the giant break before the Cascade flash as well as many other smaller breaks.

gigapause being longer but thats just a pet peeve so whatever

The importance of Sburb had already diminished with the increased focus on the trolls to the detriment of explaining the questing and powers and the other things.

wasn't act 5 a gigantic proof of what happens when you dont get sburb right? it did explain a lot on the mechanics on what the trolls fucked up and why things were bad for the beta kids, thats still giving importance to the game itself, although i do admit it was dropped by the second half

like i said, anything bad in act 5 is redeemed by the qualities and the mistakes not being as big, its debatable wether its bad or not, but act 6 takes all these errors and brings none of the quality, making it objectively bad

Never heard of this. Worth looking into?

Never heard of this. Worth looking into?

There's already a non shitty version of Homestuck that's been finished. It's called Undertale.

More like Blunderfail.

a pile of poop can't be better than another pile of poop

You do realize that if it was that big it'd never be finished, right? Also, would this come in before or after he finally delivers on that game that he promised?

Either way, Problem Sleuth was better and he should stick to that.

Homestuck's first 4 acts caught the same spark problem sleuth had, but considering everything acter act 5 i don't think he can trap the lighting in the bottle for the third time

I feel you should all realize his animation is supposedly at least 20 minutes long. It's very likely if done properly that he could tie off every single loose end all in one go.

a pile of poop can’t be better than another pile of poop

And here I thought you liked Homestuck before Act 6?

I feel you should all realize his animation is supposedly at least 20 minutes long. It’s very likely if done properly that he could tie off every single loose end all in one go.

Cascade didn't really tie much of anything up and that was like 10 minutes long?

IIRC he said this back in 2012-ish, which was before a lot of Homestuck was written and before the game was even past the conceptual stage. I have no doubt his plans have changed; the real question is how much. Guess we'll just have to wait until Homestuck is over to see what's next for the site.

Problem Sleuth is so different from Homestuck they're difficult to even compare. PS was completely reader-driven, so it had much less plot and much more comedy.

Act 6 Act 6 Act 6 Finale has been released on YouTube and on the mspaintadventures website. You got Google. Have fun with an 18-minute epic battle animation. Spoiler: the ending is not included in the animation.

The ending was going to be released on 413 of course it's not in this animation.

Wow. All that time and all we got was 15 minutes of padding, half of which made no sense? I'm genuinely surprised that Hussie managed to drop the ball so hard.

Did you read Homestuck?

Yes. What's your point?

There was never really a part in the animation that didn't make sense to me. Yeah, it was a lot of complex battling, but it all had build-up and pre-explained premises for why characters and scenes unfolded how they did.

Why does the big felt guy suddenly have the ability to punch people onto entirely different planets instead of sending them to different time periods?

Why is Jade wasting her time trying to get Jack and PM to stop fighting?

Why is Aradia fighting Lord English, and why does she completely vanish halfway through the animation for no reason?

Why does Dave feel it is necessary to cut Dirk's head off?

What causes Karkat to inexplicably wake up and feel the need to assault the little felt guy?

Why is Vriska hanging out with the stupid self insert character instead of fighting Lord English?

Why does PM instantly know where the Empress is and why does she immediately try to kill her?

Why does Jade's dad suddenly start fighting the felt guy for no reason?

The Felt guy has in the past been explained to have the ability to punch people through the literal panels of the comic itself.

Jade didn't want two different versions of the dog who raised her throughout her childhood to kill each other.

Aradia doesn't like Lord English same as everyone else. She can time-travel, but why she did so is not yet explained.

Dave cut Dirk's head off because it was what they both believed to be the only opportunity they had to take out all the bad guys. They then proceeded to collect Dirk's body parts likely to try bringing him back to life some how later through time-travel.

Karkat woke up because his dream self was killed. Karkat has anger-issues but is really childish when it comes to battle. It was essentially a means of him taking care of those issues without actually killing anyone since he is shown tieing up the guy instead of killing him. Karkat's all bark and no bite and what I'd call a pussy when it comes to delivering the final blow as has been demonstrated by him not killing Gamzee when he had the chance.

Vriska's protecting the super weapon is my guess since the red chest does contain the weapon that can supposedly defeat Lord English. The self insert of Hussie has proven to be very annoying in the past, so it's unsurprising he was immensely distraccting to her.

PM never killed the Empress, she killed the Jack Noir black dog. If you are referring to Her Imperious Condescension, she was killed by Roxy from behind while she was distracted holding the other 3 characters in the air with her psionics.

Jade's dad had to fight SOMETHING bad. He wasn't just going to sit around like a wimp given his strength and manliness. The guy was probably the first thing he saw that was the best candidate for beating up.

The Felt guy has in the past been explained to have the ability to punch people through the literal panels of the comic itself.

But why is he punching people to different events happening at the same time?

Jade didn’t want two different versions of the dog who raised her throughout her childhood to kill each other.

One of those versions is a jerk who killed a bunch of people. Remember that? Also doesn't she have anything fucking better to do then trying to look after the dogs?

Aradia doesn’t like Lord English same as everyone else.

As I recall her last conversation had her regarding Lord English as a background entity that was going to be taken care of by other mysterious powers and she was more interested in seeing what would happen when reality started collapsing. Remember that? Apparently the author didn't.

Dave cut Dirk’s head off because it was what they both believed to be the only opportunity they had to take out all the bad guys.

Or he could just not cut off Dirk's head while doing that anime jump crap? It's not like Dirk was in much danger because you can't really choke someone or cut them with the side of a crowbar.

Karkat woke up because his dream self was killed.

It sure would be neat if that was visible in the animation for more then like two frames.

Vriska’s protecting the super weapon is my guess since the red chest does contain the weapon that can supposedly defeat Lord English.

Then why isn't she using it? What the fuck is she waiting for?

PM never killed the Empress, she killed the Jack Noir black dog. If you are referring to Her Imperious Condescension, she was killed by Roxy from behind while she was distracted holding the other 3 characters in the air with her psionics.

Oh, that's what happened? Well that's still pretty lame. Why would she not be looking at Roxy? Whatever.

Jade’s dad had to fight SOMETHING bad.

So he just attacks the guy because he's green?

And when you slip into the "Have to give them something to do" habit, you know you've lost your way.

Okay so… what's the point of having Dirk's head cut off only for it to be reattached five seconds later?

Drama? Tension? What are those things? Clearly we need more scenes where Jane is whining about something.

Dirk's head was cut off in the process of taking out both bad guys at once and healed back on because Jane has healing powers. You are clearly baiting in an act of trolling.

Trolling?

There's no point in having Dirk die and then get revived right afterwards. It doesn't add any significant emotional impact to the story and makes it worse by turning yet another potential interesting moment into a stupid anticlimax. There's no reason why Dave couldn't have just killed the two Jack Noirs without killing Dirk in the process and skipped the whole part where the story tried to pretend that Dirk getting killed was significant and worth caring about.

Yes, it makes logical sense that Jane can heal people, but it doesn't make sense why it would be included in the story at all.

Stop being a retarded fanboy and learn to read.

Just going to casually point out the fact KnowYourMeme.com is actively proving how mainstream it has become when it barely reacts at all to an 18-minute climactic battle from the story Homestuck, a web comic built upon memes and video game references and irony. You all used to be good and act like you gave a shit about a legitimately unique fandom but now you all seem to not even care. Don't take it personally but I've noticed this on another site I used a lot called Whirled.com where Homestuck was a really huge popular deal with lots of roleplayers and rooms themed around it but now all those fans seem to have abandoned the place just like they have here. Anyway, since nobody else is going to react properly, I'll try to: HOLY SHIT THAT ANIMATION WAS AMAZING HOLY GOD THAT MUSIC WAS TERRIFIC DID YOU SEE THAT ONE REFERENCE TO THAT ONE GAME YOU KNOW THE ONE OMFG DAVEPETA WAS HOLDING THEIR OWN AGAINST LORD ENGLISH EVERYTHING IS SO AMAZING OMFG HUSSIE YOURE A GOD WITH THIS 18 ANIMATION. KYM might've lost some of it's spirit along the way to mainstream glory; the passion for Homestuck used to be a great thing on here and I'm just bummed that it barely seems to be a thing on here anymore.

Anyway, on the off-chance someone needs a little push in the right direction of something truly epic on the internet to influence their lives for the better, here's the video:

Hey, maybe people don't give a shit about the animation because it's part of a comic that's been plodding along for several years with nothing but a lousy story and gigantic hiatuses. It's difficult to get invested in the story and the characters involved in it when you have those huge barriers standing in the way.

And that's not even getting into whether the quality of the music and animation is nearly as good as you say it is.

Welp. Tomorrow's the big day. Is the fandom ready for it? Are we ready for it? I hope not. I want to be as unprepared as possible for whatever great thing comes next.

Since I have some time, and the forum community has destroyed any fear of self-expression I might have at one point had through simply existing in the disgusting hate-fueled circlejerky manner it has, I'm going to talk a small bit about my history with Homestuck.

I found out about Homestuck through KnowYourMeme. Funny how after a couple years away enjoying Homestuck I naturally found myself coming back here once I did all I could in the fandom. There was a lot, to say the least. There's a site called Whirled.com, still exists, great place (even if it's real lacking in users these days ever since they got rid of the ability to buy and sell music clips) but it was a fantastic place to be 3 years ago ESPECIALLY for Homestuck fans. Anyway, I found out about Homestuck through KnowYourMeme around the beginning of my Sophomore year in 2012, and being the culture-lover I was and still am, I naturally needed to figure out what it was. So I read the whole thing beginning to end back when the comic was around 4k pages long instead of the current roughly 8ishk pages long.

The comic was God-damn boring in act 1 and I only read it through sheer determination to overcome it. By act 3 I was actually enjoying myself and the trolls were interesting. I fantasized about romance with Nepeta, though Feferi was the shallowest fuck on the planet, and felt like Andrew Hussie and the fandom tried way to hard to justify the unjustifiable actions of an asshole troll named Vriska. I get people are to a degree a product of their environments, but there's a point at which responsibility should be given to the person creating the problems instead of 100% of the time gonig "oh, she just had a bad childhood." It's really annoying and feels like a horseshit argument to enjoy an abhorrent being because they have a charming style of living.

I got into the site Whirled in middle school but rarely visited it during that time, until I revisited it around late 2012. I loved finding a community filled with entertaining games and variety of people and music and videos you could put into your own personal rooms themed for just about any fandom or meme you could want and it was easy to make stuff considering how many people were doing it. Whirled was a really great place and I feel WAY too much of the internet is going to never know about how great that place was. From 2012-2014 that place was a Homestuck fan's dream (though I bet even most hardcore fans don't know about it) and it had lots of Homestuck music, fully animated avatars, videos, the works. I was proud and still am to say I bought an avatar of every troll and human (except the ancestors and adults) though even those I had a good few of.

Met a lot of horrible people on Whirled. Guilt-tripping bastards, many acting suicidal and even nonjokingly lying. But there were as many good as there were bad people there, and I was willing to suffer through the bad ones to find the good ones. I found the first woman I ever dated online (or ever for that matter) and her name was Madi. Madi was a selfish, bipolar, verbally abusive asshole toward me. She is the reason I am no longer a push-over so I never get used by someone like her again. Anyway she was a big fan of Homestuck, as were most of my close friends and enemies on Whirled. She even thought there'd be a third session on 9/11 in 2013, that's not a joke. The thought was it'd go in order of 4/13/9, 11/11/11, then 9/11/13. Anyway that never happened but I found that personally amusing in hindsight that she thought Hussie would start a third session on the day of a terrorist attack.

Also met a close old friend on there named Cammy. Whenever I roleplayed in Whirled there was always a small group of bastards that'd act like assholes on there and she'd actively defend me. It was nice, and for a long time I considered her a sister of sorts. In the end though, our friendship dwindled in passion as she grew away from Homestuck and became disinterested in what I liked to talk about. She was a very good friend and without Homestuck I'd have never grown close with her or most users on Whirled I met.

So during those years on Whirled.com I also loved to use a site called msparp.com. MSParp is a roleplay chat client that's very high quality and a must-use for real hardcore Homestuck fans. You cen select any character you want to (even the real obscure ones), their quirks already are in there but you can also custom add/remove quirks and even rp OCs in whatever colors you deemed fit. It was wonderful, and I met many once close friends on there including a couple main friends named Fran and Miranda. Fran was always a naturally very passive person and eventually stopped talking to me entirely when I displayed romantic feelings toward her. As for Miranda she's so passive she after a while didn't contact me enough so naturally that made it difficult to sustain a friendship where I'm doing all the talking. But even though I wish things would've gone better, I can honestly say those old close friends of mine I would not have met without using MSParp.

MSParp I considered a tool and still do of sifting through people, where I'd choose specific characters I want to roleplay with and naturally people with personalities matching those specific characters would roleplay them, and so I was able to find exactly the people I wanted to. Maybe in the end it's my own fault my friends were so passive. It seemed the only truly nice characters with true depth in Homestuck were generally the more passive ones. MSParp got me a nice series of friends and group chats even if most of them quieted down to silence toward me with time.

So that's what I did during the time between 2012 and 2015 when I was mostly inactive on KnowYourMeme. Since everyone loves to stereotype the Homestuck fandom as being trash like the other fandoms, allow me to give my own two cents on the matter seeing as I am probably in one of the best positions to judge the fandom a bit more wholey due to the well-rounded experiences I've had irl and online with Homestuck fans for years. They're quirky bastards that like quirky bastards and they're a lot more interesting than average people. What you'd call, extreme personalities with greater diversity and intensity than a typical person you'd meet. I would not say the fandom is bad, but I'd say you will find significantly more good and significantly more bad people in the Homestuck fandom than you would with your typical group of people whom are going to be more neutral ethically and be more hesitant to take a stand with their views and personality, like Homestuck fans often dare to do.

The final update before 4/13's finale was just released. I want to wish everyone in the Homestuck fandom a solid goodbye. Whether you be a lying harlot who's fucked with my life, or a beloved friend I've enjoyed a long happy ride through the fandom with, I want to wish you all a solemn goodbye, and though I may not miss many of you, the few I will miss, I promise I will mist dearly. Tomorrow, Homestuck will die. But it will die exactly as it should. With beauty, meaning, and the love of a fanbase far too patiently awaiting a resolution to the story. Tomorrow we all must graduate from our fandom and move onto greater things. For the truest of fans this will not be easy. So let us take this time to look through the list of flash animations in the mspa wiki, look back on your favorite lines and images from the story, and admire your favorite fan-create items and music. It's time we all say our final goodbyes. It's been a long ride, but it's time we saw a proper ending to this story, and moved on to find something greater; even if we all may not yet know what will for us personally be greater. We will find our way beyond. For tomorrow, WE DINE IN HELL.

>in less than 24 hours you will live in a post-homestuck world

i've truly reached nirvana, the punishment is over

This better be fucking good.

You already watched the giant 18 minute animation. There's not enough space in the meager page count Hussie hasn't uploaded to do a proper ending even if he tried to at this point.

Okay.

Um.

I liked that there was actual animation instead of transitions and jerky sprite movements. The only part that didn't hold up was the fake 3D looking Skaia battlefield thing.

But jesus christ what a fucking cop out. If that was the entire ending I didn't think it was possible to fuck up so hard but wow

problem sleuth's ending also had jerky sprite movement, there is hardly things hussie can do using shitty 2d sprites for battles

but the """animation""" outsourcing was really fucking bad lmao.

just watched the ending.

without spoiling anything (not that there is much to spil) that was a really cookie cutter and vague ending, like when you rush to finish your essay in 20 minutes before the class is up, nothing much was resolved, just a standard happy ending for everyone and some vague hints of a fight happening.

And it was good.

Oh guys, the story might not actually be over. If you click on 'ARCHIVE' on the mspaintadventures website, this is the text below Homestuck:

"A tale about a boy and his friends and a game they play together. [IN PROGRESS] "

If the story was over, it would like Problem Sleuth say [FINISHED].

Could be that he forgot to do it, but I think it means the story still has an epilogue planned.

Hussie explicitly says there's probably going to be an epilogue in the news post:

Edit: one more thing. If you're curious about whether there will be anything resembling an epilogue to this ending, yes, I've been thinking about that for some time. It'll take a while to produce though, whatever specific form it ends up taking. Working on Collide took months, and came right down to the wire. I've got more time now though obviously. But that said, I'm not in a huge hurry at this point. Keep an eye out here for developments. There should be plenty of other news in coming months too.

How much can you wrap up in an epilogue? The entire story? I doubt it.