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Last posted Feb 19, 2012 at 11:26PM EST. Added Dec 15, 2011 at 11:43AM EST
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Wightprincess wrote:

That's part of why I like this show: it doesn't feel educational. MLP:FiM is sharp and clever, and doesn't oversimplify the lessons its trying to teach you. It's probably because its not targeted at toddlers or anything like that, but it's still nice.

In any case, I don't see why they couldn't have an episode dealing with loss. They have basically already set it up for that (with Applejack living with her granny), whether they intended to or not.

eeyup. They did set that up. Sweetiebelle didn't live with rarity, so I just assumed she lived with her parents( which we found out she did). The rest of the main six have either mentioned their parents or not, but still given us no reason to believe they aren't alive. Applejack on the other hand, she and her siblings live with their grandmother and have been living with her for years. the only time Ive known someone to live with there grand parents is because of serious problems with the parents or because they are dead. It would be nice if they had an episode dealing with loss and I think that "the last roundup" could be that episode. The name just sounds so ominous.

Edit: @Opspe
You are right about sesame street being much more established than MLP, also Mr. Hooper really did die. I know its a long shot that they will have an episode about loss, but it just seems like the best way to explain applejacks situation. I just like it when children cartoons have deep episodes.

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opspe wrote:

dac wrote:

I honestly think it would make the most sense If they passed away during Applejack's childhood.

I agree with this.

BUT I disagree that there could be an episode dealing with loss. I feel like dealing with a subject like that would be extremely controversial amongst the younger viewers (well, their parents), so I don't think that it would be wise for such a new show to go in that direction, and I'm pretty sure the writers would agree with me.

In the Sesame Street case, the show had been very well-established before dealing with stuff like that, and I just don't think MLP:FiM is at that point. Sesame Street is also, let's face it, far more educational than FiM, and it's been running for so long that they naturally have to teach about things besides love and tolerance. They've touched on many other non-childish topics in their 40 years also. FiM has only been on for, what, 18 months or so, so if it were to delve into such topics I think it would face lots of criticism.

When a kids' show decides to deal with something like loss, the episode must be exceptionally well-crafted so as to make the emotions clear to children, but not to make the emotions devastating for the children to witness. The Sesame Street episode was controversial at the time, but it has since been lauded for doing an extremely good job of dealing with the issues related to loss.

I agree with Engie in that there may be an episode revealing more about Applejack's family history. But whatever the history may be, it's clear that she's lived with Granny for a very long time. In that context, I prefer to think of her parents working and living somewhere else that's not amenable to raising fillies – I guess like Rarity's parents.

Not amendable to raising fillies?? They have Sweetie Belle, for Celestia-sakes!

@dac: Ominous you say? Hmmmm.

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Ideological the Vinyl Scratch wrote:

Not amendable to raising fillies?? They have Sweetie Belle, for Celestia-sakes!

@dac: Ominous you say? Hmmmm.

Hm. For some reason I thought she lived with Rarity. I guess I should have paid better attention…


I should clarify about my post on the last page: I would like there to be an episode about loss, and my headcanon dictates that AJ's parents are dead, but I just don't think it's a likely subject for the show.

opspe wrote:

Hm. For some reason I thought she lived with Rarity. I guess I should have paid better attention…


I should clarify about my post on the last page: I would like there to be an episode about loss, and my headcanon dictates that AJ's parents are dead, but I just don't think it's a likely subject for the show.

As we have learned, the show can really mess with your headcanon, i.e. Hearth's-Warming Eve. So if the time arises, you best be prepared.

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Honestly considering parts of this generation and especially younger generations (foul mouthed little kids) and I know because when helping around places a little kid commented that he will beat me up and kills me If I look at his GF. So I stood over him and told him to say it again…he ran away. Putting death in a kids show might be alright considering that most of them are already playing L4D, TF2, MW3, and BF3.

Engie wrote:

Honestly considering parts of this generation and especially younger generations (foul mouthed little kids) and I know because when helping around places a little kid commented that he will beat me up and kills me If I look at his GF. So I stood over him and told him to say it again…he ran away. Putting death in a kids show might be alright considering that most of them are already playing L4D, TF2, MW3, and BF3.

Lucky bastards. I mean, yeah it might be alright. That's what I meant….

Nothing else. Heh heh.

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Engie wrote:

Honestly considering parts of this generation and especially younger generations (foul mouthed little kids) and I know because when helping around places a little kid commented that he will beat me up and kills me If I look at his GF. So I stood over him and told him to say it again…he ran away. Putting death in a kids show might be alright considering that most of them are already playing L4D, TF2, MW3, and BF3.

Those games are all targeted towards adults. If I had kids, I'd make sure they're not playing those games, at least not until they're older of course.
There's a difference between something being "targeted for" and something being "viewed by".

Cite wrote:

Those games are all targeted towards adults. If I had kids, I'd make sure they're not playing those games, at least not until they're older of course.
There's a difference between something being "targeted for" and something being "viewed by".

I'm pretty much the opposite. I'm 20, almost 21, and my parents won't even let me play those games. I mad and jelly.

opspe wrote:

Hm. For some reason I thought she lived with Rarity. I guess I should have paid better attention…


I should clarify about my post on the last page: I would like there to be an episode about loss, and my headcanon dictates that AJ's parents are dead, but I just don't think it's a likely subject for the show.

Though you are probably right about the fact they won't do that, the one thing that gives me hope is Hey Arnold. That show was targeted towards kids, but it dealt with heavy topics such as death, war, addictions, social outcasts, and possibly other things that I'm forgetting. It was one of my favorite shows back in the 90s.

@ ideo
At that age, its not up to your parents anymore. you are a grown man, its your decision wether or not you can play those games, not theirs.

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Dac wrote:

Though you are probably right about the fact they won't do that, the one thing that gives me hope is Hey Arnold. That show was targeted towards kids, but it dealt with heavy topics such as death, war, addictions, social outcasts, and possibly other things that I'm forgetting. It was one of my favorite shows back in the 90s.

@ ideo
At that age, its not up to your parents anymore. you are a grown man, its your decision wether or not you can play those games, not theirs.

Yeah. Sadly, that time has passed and the old shows have been replaced shows that aren't even that great imo. And yeah. I secretly donwloaded TF2. Heh heh heh. Haven't really found time to play it.

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Dac wrote:

Though you are probably right about the fact they won't do that, the one thing that gives me hope is Hey Arnold. That show was targeted towards kids, but it dealt with heavy topics such as death, war, addictions, social outcasts, and possibly other things that I'm forgetting. It was one of my favorite shows back in the 90s.

@ ideo
At that age, its not up to your parents anymore. you are a grown man, its your decision wether or not you can play those games, not theirs.

Values Dissonance. Hell, the show runners said they were pushing it when they had Rainbow Dash say "egghead". An episode about death is unlikely to happen for awhile, if ever.

Cite wrote:

Those games are all targeted towards adults. If I had kids, I'd make sure they're not playing those games, at least not until they're older of course.
There's a difference between something being "targeted for" and something being "viewed by".

They might be for adults, but the fact that when I went to one of my mom friends house she told me I could go to her sons room. I went in and he was already playing Black Ops. I sat and watched him literally get kill streaks while talking through his mic, but he wasn't spamming he was actually giving instructions. Until another kid in the server was Yelling a lot to the point where the kid quit. After giving me the controller he sighed and literally said "No me gusta que me la generaciĂłn estĂşpida" which means. I hate that I got the stupid generation

While there are some kids who are able to handle mature things such as death. Most of them are not and will completely make a big deal out of every little thing.

Engie wrote:

They might be for adults, but the fact that when I went to one of my mom friends house she told me I could go to her sons room. I went in and he was already playing Black Ops. I sat and watched him literally get kill streaks while talking through his mic, but he wasn't spamming he was actually giving instructions. Until another kid in the server was Yelling a lot to the point where the kid quit. After giving me the controller he sighed and literally said "No me gusta que me la generaciĂłn estĂşpida" which means. I hate that I got the stupid generation

While there are some kids who are able to handle mature things such as death. Most of them are not and will completely make a big deal out of every little thing.

I think I've seen kids like that. Possibly at my school. Also, that kid seems to be very mature for his age. I wouldn't mind spending time with him.

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Engie wrote:

They might be for adults, but the fact that when I went to one of my mom friends house she told me I could go to her sons room. I went in and he was already playing Black Ops. I sat and watched him literally get kill streaks while talking through his mic, but he wasn't spamming he was actually giving instructions. Until another kid in the server was Yelling a lot to the point where the kid quit. After giving me the controller he sighed and literally said "No me gusta que me la generaciĂłn estĂşpida" which means. I hate that I got the stupid generation

While there are some kids who are able to handle mature things such as death. Most of them are not and will completely make a big deal out of every little thing.

For the record, the multiplayer in Call of Duty is an extremely watered down, not realistic at all version of war. There's very little blood and no f-bombs. (EDIT: Whoops, I had no idea how disrespectful that sounded. I apologize for that, it was unintentional)
But even still, I'm not saying I dislike the idea of that episode. It's just it doesn't seem realistic.
And I agree with that kid. He sounds awesome, by the way.

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Cite wrote:

Values Dissonance. Hell, the show runners said they were pushing it when they had Rainbow Dash say "egghead". An episode about death is unlikely to happen for awhile, if ever.

The topic of loss doesn't age well? I would understand babba looey or speedy gonzalez not aging well, but the topics in Hey Arnold aren't exactly the kind of topics that would be considered wrong or out of place now( anyways, hey arnold ran until 2004). I can understand why egghead might be pushing it, Its just an insult and added nothing to the moral of the story. Loss however, is something that everyone has to deal with. I remember this episode of Thats so Raven ( forgive me for mentioning it) where this lady wouldn't hire her because she was black. They managed to handle it very well though, and thats why it worked. the same could happen for MLP.

Dac wrote:

The topic of loss doesn't age well? I would understand babba looey or speedy gonzalez not aging well, but the topics in Hey Arnold aren't exactly the kind of topics that would be considered wrong or out of place now( anyways, hey arnold ran until 2004). I can understand why egghead might be pushing it, Its just an insult and added nothing to the moral of the story. Loss however, is something that everyone has to deal with. I remember this episode of Thats so Raven ( forgive me for mentioning it) where this lady wouldn't hire her because she was black. They managed to handle it very well though, and thats why it worked. the same could happen for MLP.

That show was better than the current shows on the Disney Channel. sigh Stupid greedy corporations and their need to produce lousy shows just to make more money.

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I kinda welcome the idea of putting death in Mlp. But the fact is that people will be all over it saying "No that's bad" and others will say "It's teaching us a important part of life"

Needless to say it will get mixed reviews, good and bad. If they do decide to do that then it has to be very well thought out so people won't overreact to it.

Engie wrote:

I kinda welcome the idea of putting death in Mlp. But the fact is that people will be all over it saying "No that's bad" and others will say "It's teaching us a important part of life"

Needless to say it will get mixed reviews, good and bad. If they do decide to do that then it has to be very well thought out so people won't overreact to it.

The current season's getting mixed reviews even without an ep about death. And remember the 167 Hours reference in May the Best Pet Win? That was pretty grim.

Engie wrote:

I kinda welcome the idea of putting death in Mlp. But the fact is that people will be all over it saying "No that's bad" and others will say "It's teaching us a important part of life"

Needless to say it will get mixed reviews, good and bad. If they do decide to do that then it has to be very well thought out so people won't overreact to it.

I don't get why people think death is so foreign in cartoons, kid shows, and kid movies. Granted, most kid shows don't have it, but still a lot have had death. I already mentioned a couple TV shows ( come to think of it, in rocket power, wasn't it mentioned that Ray's wife was dead?) plus Disney movies almost always kill the bad guy/girl. I understand there is a difference between the hunchback of notre dame and MLP, but I still don't think its too far fetched.

Ideological the Vinyl Scratch wrote:

The current season's getting mixed reviews even without an ep about death. And remember the 167 Hours reference in May the Best Pet Win? That was pretty grim.

It was pretty grim but children won't get it maybe until there older or at all. I don't think kids will actually understand that reference unless they seen it or actually have the understanding of that movie . Some adults will know, and some don't.

Dac wrote:

I don't get why people think death is so foreign in cartoons, kid shows, and kid movies. Granted, most kid shows don't have it, but still a lot have had death. I already mentioned a couple TV shows ( come to think of it, in rocket power, wasn't it mentioned that Ray's wife was dead?) plus Disney movies almost always kill the bad guy/girl. I understand there is a difference between the hunchback of notre dame and MLP, but I still don't think its too far fetched.

Yet another great show. All this talk of cancelled old shows makes me sad.

@Engle: Haven't seen the movie but I understand the plot of it. Think I know how it ends. That reference was a major spoiler. But yeah. Kids probably won't get it. Another grim reference was the Big Lebrowski, though it wasn't about any of the dark scenes in the movie.

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Dac wrote:

I don't get why people think death is so foreign in cartoons, kid shows, and kid movies. Granted, most kid shows don't have it, but still a lot have had death. I already mentioned a couple TV shows ( come to think of it, in rocket power, wasn't it mentioned that Ray's wife was dead?) plus Disney movies almost always kill the bad guy/girl. I understand there is a difference between the hunchback of notre dame and MLP, but I still don't think its too far fetched.

There's a difference between plot-driven death and character-driven death. Most Disney movies and kids' shows that include death include it as plot-driven death. That is to say, the deaths are plot devices, and generally have limited effects on the characters. This isn't always the case; The Lion King, for example, has one of the most tragic death scenes in cartoon history, and that was both plot- and character-driven, so even though it had a huge impact on the characters, it furthered the plot of the movie.

In the case of AJ's parents, that would be an almost entirely character-driven death. The show has no over-arching plot lines to advance, and since it supposedly happened many years in the past, it can be safely said that it would not have much to do with the plot. And there's nothing wrong with that, but the difference between plot- and character-driven deaths and how they're presented is what would, I think, prevent the writers from making the episode.

Character-driven deaths focus on the character development aspect of death and loss (surprise!), as opposed to showing a bit of it and then moving on with the plot. The death Sesame Street was like this; the show portrayed the characters coping with their loss, which is what I think would have to happen in MLP too. And although we have seen some grim scenes (the 127 hours reference, for example), a character-driven death would far surpass all of them, and I just don't think that the show's ready for that. It has yet to even have a plot-driven death, so a character-driven death seems out of the question to me.


Again, personally, I would like to see how such an event was handled, but that's not something I expect to ever see.

Ideological the Vinyl Scratch wrote:

Yet another great show. All this talk of cancelled old shows makes me sad.

@Engle: Haven't seen the movie but I understand the plot of it. Think I know how it ends. That reference was a major spoiler. But yeah. Kids probably won't get it. Another grim reference was the Big Lebrowski, though it wasn't about any of the dark scenes in the movie.

Ed, Edd, and Eddy…
Courage the cowardly dog (seriously, that show was pretty odd)

Sadly in the far far future…MLP will become part of this group of Amazing shows that ended. When that time comes…who can we look, to figure out to not fear anything, be yourself, believe in what we stood for, lend a hand to a fallen person in need. This show was able to save people from depression, sickness, and suicides. Even with all the lives spared of torment of peers and life, it will end and only in that time will I actually question myself

"Will I lose my tough exterior and let my interior take over and spread love and tolerance to those whom I loved…or will I reform back to my old self and leave my inner self somewhere in the sand of time ?"

opspe wrote:

There's a difference between plot-driven death and character-driven death. Most Disney movies and kids' shows that include death include it as plot-driven death. That is to say, the deaths are plot devices, and generally have limited effects on the characters. This isn't always the case; The Lion King, for example, has one of the most tragic death scenes in cartoon history, and that was both plot- and character-driven, so even though it had a huge impact on the characters, it furthered the plot of the movie.

In the case of AJ's parents, that would be an almost entirely character-driven death. The show has no over-arching plot lines to advance, and since it supposedly happened many years in the past, it can be safely said that it would not have much to do with the plot. And there's nothing wrong with that, but the difference between plot- and character-driven deaths and how they're presented is what would, I think, prevent the writers from making the episode.

Character-driven deaths focus on the character development aspect of death and loss (surprise!), as opposed to showing a bit of it and then moving on with the plot. The death Sesame Street was like this; the show portrayed the characters coping with their loss, which is what I think would have to happen in MLP too. And although we have seen some grim scenes (the 127 hours reference, for example), a character-driven death would far surpass all of them, and I just don't think that the show's ready for that. It has yet to even have a plot-driven death, so a character-driven death seems out of the question to me.


Again, personally, I would like to see how such an event was handled, but that's not something I expect to ever see.

In the past?

Opspe, opspe, opspe. You are mistaken. No offense.

@Engle: Scuse me while I look for a sad gif.

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Opspe, opspe, opspe. You are mistaken. No offense.

Oh?

Well that's just how I interpreted it. My point is still valid: since her parents aren't currently in the show, their deaths wouldn't be plot-driven, but rather character-driven.

Also, none taken. Such is debate.

opspe wrote:

Opspe, opspe, opspe. You are mistaken. No offense.

Oh?

Well that's just how I interpreted it. My point is still valid: since her parents aren't currently in the show, their deaths wouldn't be plot-driven, but rather character-driven.

Also, none taken. Such is debate.

They had electricity in the Mysterious Mare-Do-Well. But anyways….I agree. It would be character-driven.

Ideological the Vinyl Scratch wrote:

They had electricity in the Mysterious Mare-Do-Well. But anyways….I agree. It would be character-driven.

OHHHH, I think you misunderstood. I meant that AJ's parents' deaths happened in the past, not that the show was set in the past.

Hey everyone.

I just thought that I'd quickly mention that my internet was down for the better part of the past week, which is why I haven't posted anything in a while. It's fixed now, so all is well again. :)

I don't know about you, but in the episode where it showed applejack as a child, I got the impression applebloom wasn't born yet. Yet they still lived with granny smith. I personally think that applejack's parents are alive but in a position in which they can't raise children. Although, I don't really have a head canon so that opinion is very likely to be subject to change.

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Platus wrote:

Hey everyone.

I just thought that I'd quickly mention that my internet was down for the better part of the past week, which is why I haven't posted anything in a while. It's fixed now, so all is well again. :)

Oh boy….

@Sandwichman: Prepare to get one even though I don't have one yet either.

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opspe wrote:

There's a difference between plot-driven death and character-driven death. Most Disney movies and kids' shows that include death include it as plot-driven death. That is to say, the deaths are plot devices, and generally have limited effects on the characters. This isn't always the case; The Lion King, for example, has one of the most tragic death scenes in cartoon history, and that was both plot- and character-driven, so even though it had a huge impact on the characters, it furthered the plot of the movie.

In the case of AJ's parents, that would be an almost entirely character-driven death. The show has no over-arching plot lines to advance, and since it supposedly happened many years in the past, it can be safely said that it would not have much to do with the plot. And there's nothing wrong with that, but the difference between plot- and character-driven deaths and how they're presented is what would, I think, prevent the writers from making the episode.

Character-driven deaths focus on the character development aspect of death and loss (surprise!), as opposed to showing a bit of it and then moving on with the plot. The death Sesame Street was like this; the show portrayed the characters coping with their loss, which is what I think would have to happen in MLP too. And although we have seen some grim scenes (the 127 hours reference, for example), a character-driven death would far surpass all of them, and I just don't think that the show's ready for that. It has yet to even have a plot-driven death, so a character-driven death seems out of the question to me.


Again, personally, I would like to see how such an event was handled, but that's not something I expect to ever see.

I understand what you are saying, but Arnolds parents death were character driven, as well as Miriam patakie's alcoholism, Raymundo's wife's death, Mr. hyuns daughter, and Raven not getting a job because she was black. These shows never reached the status of Sesame Street, but they were still able to pull it off. Its really just a matter of if they can do it tastefully, and the past has shown in can be done

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Dac wrote:

I understand what you are saying, but Arnolds parents death were character driven, as well as Miriam patakie's alcoholism, Raymundo's wife's death, Mr. hyuns daughter, and Raven not getting a job because she was black. These shows never reached the status of Sesame Street, but they were still able to pull it off. Its really just a matter of if they can do it tastefully, and the past has shown in can be done

Sadly, they never made it because corporations got greedy.

I'm not exactly sure how loss would be portrayed, but maybe they could do it kind of like Calvin & Hobbes did it: the Mane 6 find a badly hurt animal and try to nurse it back to health. They fail. Of course, Idunno if that would fit the show but it's a suggestion.

Of course, knowing Fluttershy's job is to treat pets for injuries, it may not happen. I honestly have no idea how MLP would handle loss, but I'm sure Celestia can help provide counsel if the ep it brings up airs: she banished Luna to the moon for a thousand years, so she would probably go through the five stages of grief much like she would had Luna died. Only possibly lightly tempered by the fact that she'd come back in said thousand years.

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Ideological the Vinyl Scratch wrote:

Yeah. Sadly, that time has passed and the old shows have been replaced shows that aren't even that great imo. And yeah. I secretly donwloaded TF2. Heh heh heh. Haven't really found time to play it.

Oh, Aerostat. How I've missed you…
 
 
For one, age isn't the determinant of being an adult (At least in my eyes.) An adult can take care of his or herself without depending solely upon someone. Since you're living at home and (I assume) have all of your needs met by your parents, I'd say that you're somewhere in the middle of adolescent and adult. And as long as you need them to take care of your necessities, you're not quite an adult.

As for playing violent video games, I think you're as mature as most of the people who play Rated M games, but it's your parents house. While I'm here on break, I do as they say out of respect. That's part of the reason why I'm not online as much as I have been. They don't have to give me a place to stay anymore by any means. In the same vein, even if they are in the wrong, your folks aren't forcing you to do evil or preventing you from doing right. I'd (generally) just do as they say until you can find your own place.

And before you say anything, just because people are disagreeing does not mean we're mid-flamewar. It means we're disagreeing.

Yeah. Who needs parents?

I really hope you're joking about that, by the way.


I'm liking this Engie character. Except that he keeps sapping mah kramas.

I don't think I could add much to the death conversation. I don't think FiM will see it…yet. Perhaps as something that occurs as part of a character's history (e.g., AJ's parents or Granny Pie, maybe.) But I highly doubt there will be an episode where someone dies. All of the episodes have been humorous before all else. In a thirty minute episode, death would either be out of place or would make the entire episode sad. I don't think we'll see an FiM episode that wasn't mostly funny, so I'd highly doubt we'll see death. Death may be mentioned, even with the actual words "die" or "death," but it will likely be something that has already occurred.

(I guess that's what opspe might call a character-driven death that doesn't effect the plot, but perhaps the outlook of the character or the existence of a character's family.)
 
 
Great point, sandwichman. Unless Apple Bloom is adopted or something (ala Simply Rarity,) then AJ's, Big Mac's, and AB's parents were alive at that point at least. I feel like Lauren Faust might have said that the parents are actually dead, but I may be remembering something I never actually heard.


RandomMan, I apologize for mopping the floor with burning_phoneix's head for a few posts. It was unnecessary, and no one needed to see my rage in the Pony thread. I will keep my pwning restricted to other avenues from here on out.

…

burning_phoneix no u

Ideological the Vinyl Scratch wrote:

Sadly, they never made it because corporations got greedy.

Never made what? Im guessing you mean the planned movie were Arnold finds a map of where his parents were heading to, and tries to find them, right? or what were you talking about?
About Corporate greed, I don't think they should be obligated to keep making a show if the can't make money off it anymore. They are there to make money, and reserve the right to cancel what isn't working.

@ Sparty mcfly
yeah, you're right about calvin and hoboes. Come to think of it, Ready set Learn had an episode just like that. Now if they can do it, I don't see why MLP can't.

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Dac wrote:

Never made what? Im guessing you mean the planned movie were Arnold finds a map of where his parents were heading to, and tries to find them, right? or what were you talking about?
About Corporate greed, I don't think they should be obligated to keep making a show if the can't make money off it anymore. They are there to make money, and reserve the right to cancel what isn't working.

@ Sparty mcfly
yeah, you're right about calvin and hoboes. Come to think of it, Ready set Learn had an episode just like that. Now if they can do it, I don't see why MLP can't.

Make the same status as Sesame Street.

@Verbose; As much as you're right, I'm tired of relying on my parents. It is often followed by nagging, yelling, and lectures if I should cross a line. There's a point where it gets old. Very old. And I have a right to be able to play violent video games at my age. Also, I like Engie a lot as well. A joke? Possibly. Frankly I feel that after a certain amount of time and as you become more mature, you start to rely on your parents less. So close to a tl;dr, yet so far.

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@Verbose
Lauren Faust actually said that she would liked to have said that they passed away but she thinks it was too sad for a kid's show. Nothing is official until it's mentioned in an episode.
I quoted it somewhere near the bottom of the last page.

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Is anyone else having trouble getting on Ponibooru?

I've tried to get on through Chrome and (shudder) IE, so I've concluded that it's a site issue.

That's the quote I saw before, lolstaz. Krama given for missing it before. My apologies for making you repeat it. It sounds like it would just be avoided then. If that was Lauren Faust's original (but loose) concept for the Apple Family, then perhaps the current runners will keep that dynamic intact. AJ's parents being away for some reason. I do find it funny that Twilight's family as we've seen so far is smaller than AJ's family.

I also find it funny that I have trouble calling Laurent Faust just "Lauren." But Ms. is inaccurate, because she's married, and Mrs. is a bit too formal since I'm an adult…kinda.


Aerostat. Your name is Aerostat to me now. Just so you know. Like how Owens is always Owens.

You are a filthy cheat Ideo, you profess your love for a pony, play with their heart, and then toss them aside. How can you be so heartless? I see your next victim is trixie… you make me sick

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