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You mean like how in 1984 the junior anti-sex league uses pretty faces to gain members while promoting individuals to feel ashamed of their sexuality and make them feel guilty thus creating incredibly hate filled individuals who act like twats and act in a hiveminded status that their main crux is that because of how hiveminded they are they hate intellectual diversity. Gee, who would have thunk?

Another group that stood against GG is now ironically connected with some people who may have committed sexual assault. Rinse repeat.

I believe it. It's happened far too many times. Most politically correct/left-wing motivated people likely have histories. I can't help but wonder what Dobson and other sorts have done.

A friend of mine brought this up.
https://floraverse.info/
BROWSE LINK AT YOUR OWN RISK.

Floraverse is a webcomic that's been going on for a few years and is in no short supply of overt identity politics. Now there's people coming forward with evidence of the creators and their cohorts being (among other things) active pedophiles. They've been creating a lot of art reflecting their proclivities, some of which is archived in the link.

Similar but a bit worse. Basically all of them have done something or have something in their lives that they regret or fear will come up or something they feel shame of.
Let's say one of them is campaigning against sexualization of females and pedophila. Probably the guy was once an average guy who dated a teenager when he was in college and was shamed into believing he did something wrong (He didn't) and that he was a child molester (He wasn't).
Another example. A feminist who hates all men. The secret is that she hates them because she has ruined all her first dates by being rude.
Most of them have something they feel will get them in trouble or makes them regret. Of course the loudest and most vocal do have something horrible, like Randy Harper molesting actual children or Lenna Dunham actually raping her little sister (The involved people in such cases has a restraining order as proof the thing was abusive).
Compare that to people who were never vocal SJWs like David Bowie who was in favor of LGBT rights but never went full SJW. He had an affair with a teenage groupie, but no one of the involved parties were negatively affected and he died in peace.
All SJWs were shamed into being SJWs or did something horrible that made them one. I was shamed into it.

^

You've defended hebephilia on your personal blog. You were promoting Tom Grauer a few posts back, who is a pro-rape and pro-pedophilia antifeminist blogger. You identified yourself as, quote, a "male sexualist"; I assume that you are also taking cues from Grauer, who defined the term as being applicable to people who advocate for lowering the age of consent to 12 and who believe that rape should not be a crime.

You are a terrible person. The fact that you think you have any right to make proclamations about sexual morality is astonishing.

You sound like a dumb SJW who was shamed into thinking rape and pedophilia were bad.

Don't counter-jerk too hard, friends.

So yeah, back to topic folks. Let's see what's going off on the realm of GG before this thread gets locked up and a new one would have to be made to take it's place. I understand we're using the liberal use of "Social Hub" as defined in Post #1, however, please make sure that rule #2 (Keep it relevant) and Rule #6 (Be Friendly) are being followed.

As for news about gaming, ethics and resistance against identity politics (a re-occuring theme for the #gamergate)

E3 Happened. It was a thing. McIntosh went "full McIntosh" unable to tell that Fallout was a video game with fictional nukes that anyone can launch… and reality. Sargon pointed that out

Polygon doubles down on the Battlefield 5's remix of Gamers don't have to be your audience

Gaming developers need to ban gamers according to tech crunch. Which gives pause to the idea of who the games are for.

And youtuber shoe-on-head goes into detail about how when games try to be inclusive with diversity they're "pandering" and not "diverse enough".

Just for the record. I am entirely against rape of any kind toward any human being.

Back on topic, this might have a lot to do with gaming, since apparently DOA 6 will not have "boob physics" because that scares away the "e-sports" community.

Sincerely I always feel frustrated with how e-sports has turned detrimental to the industry.

"Sincerely I always feel frustrated with how e-sports has turned detrimental to the industry."
Same reason why you see lootboxes, microtransactions and such pushed so hard; trying to push a narrative rather than actually listen to gamers. E-sports is only worth $200 million globally and the video game industry in the USA alone is worth $20 billion. It's like the people who say "single player games are dying".

Speaking of which; it's kind of suspicious timing wise how there's a narrative that fornite is "indoctrinating children to be killers" when they have a monopoly on lootboxes, microtransactions, battle royales now. Fortnite is so popular that even Blizzard admitted it wiped $6 billion from it's company because people stopped playing their multiplayer games for Fortnite. As much as I don't like Fortnite I'm thoroughly enjoying how it's wiping out that whole "microtransactions, p2w, lootboxes and cellphone gaming is the future of gaming" single handily. I was hoping eventually something would trigger the end of the lootbox craze and it seems as though Fortnite being this popular is what is triggering it, cause even companies like Blizzard just can't compete on multiplayer games.

At this point it is pretty much obvious that mainstream media organizes slander campaigns toward things that are not profitable to certain elites. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw faces of men like Bill Gates being involved in spreading lies about video games that do not benefit them. Same with film, comics, anything at all. if it is not in favor of a certain agenda tied to big media, it is slandered.
The narrative must be preserved after all.
Same things have happened with emerging comic writers not working for the, now SJW infected, big companies, but that is tangential only because it is the same slander.

I am not entirely against e-sports. I used to love seeing local KOF and Street Fighter competitions in my neighborhood (Often organized by older gamers in the area), and I am sure most people enjoyed classic FPS multiplayer tournaments.

The real issue is that nowadays it is a market as filthy as real life team sports. You could say the current e-sports issue is very close to the FIFA corruption scandals and the Super Bowl mess of the latest years.

Well we have a confirmed death cause of sjw's. Rizzydraws is a gay guy living in a Islamic country; sjw's doxxed him to kill him to shut him up because he doesn't agree with them, Rizzy tried taking his life, but he survived and now he's going to get killed.

So this is the second death caused by sjw's; august ames was the first one.

THIS is why everyone hates sjw's; they genuinely believe "no bad tactics". They even believe that fucking murder is okay.

https://twitter.com/shoe0nhead/status/1008232443667763200

Holy fuck I fucking hate this world
I've seen that tweet Rizzy showed about a week ago, I've seen SJW's replies so goddamn hostile that day, didnt think that there was a doxx
"Gamergate worse than ISIS" my fucking ass, this happened in the worst way possible
I will not stand for this

Update on this rizzy stuff
It may be something else different since theres no clear evidence that's it is a SJW who did this cus of Ian. So I guess YourHigherBrainFunctions may have jumped the gun or somthing.
Anyone wanna bet that it's a TERF or something else

Well. I think anyone who wants to kill someone for a different opinion instead of refuting it is rather horrible.
I see many people, often on both ends, but mostly SJW, calling for the murder of someone they disagree with instead of pointing out their mistakes. Of course I find it forgivable yet still absurd when people say Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump (Pick side) deserves to get shot because they lobby for certain things, or when people excuse the death of AntiFa or Neo Nazis because they actually inflicted harm on others. But killing over a disagreement is retarded.
Killing over disagreement is the behavior of a chimpanzee, not a human.

So financially shit has officially hit the fan for the video game industry. There's that lootbox thing I was talking about, but something also going on in the video game industry is that games with price tags beyond the range of $20 to $60 are currently having problems A lot of indie games that are $10 are currently having problems, because the median sales for those price ranges are going down. The video game industry is continuing to grow, but some of the big companies are losing a lot of stock value because they doubled down so hard on lootboxes that now that gamers are playing Fortnite they're losing money.

Rather than typing out a long fucking post:
Companies that genuinely enjoy making games right now

#nofucks

Companies that don't care about their finished product and just want money right now

We're not seeing the death of lootboxes, p2w, scummy tactics, lawsuits against other companies for "stealing gamemode concepts", etc; rather they knew that by refusing to make a game that gamers would enjoy they were gambling and they got snake eyes and now a lot of their "games" aren't selling well. It's not a second video game industry crash, rather a lot of video game developers are making games people don't enjoy so people aren't buying them anymore.

What do I think is going to happen in the long run? Obviously with multiplayer games we are genuinely seeing the death of pay to win. There's still a lot of microtransactions, but most of the new games being announced are cosmetic only. As for single player games, something I don't necessarily agree with but is justifiable is I've been noticing a lot of say $20 to $30 games that aren't worth $30, they're worth more like $15 but they're good games. If say you saw a game that was $20 and it's pretty obvious that it's only really worth $10, BUT you know it's a good game, the developers are quick with fixing bugs, the game has long term support and you know they don't have spyware in the game would you be willing to bite the bullet for a game you know you'll enjoy?

Future of online gaming: cosmetic only microtransactions
Future of indie gaming: $20 to $30, overpriced but fucking good, but still overpriced

TLdr;
Game company where they actually enjoy making games, "You should probably start making games people enjoy"
Game companies that are notorious, "Why?"
(single game fails so bad it wipes out billions from their stock worth)
"That's why"

This turn of events has felt predictable yet still the usual suspects, who are in bed with SJWs if you remember, fail to grasp a basic business concept.
Customer satisfaction.
As a writer I know one thing, if no one likes my books, I deserve no sales and no pay. Fortunately it seems my readers like my work, because I do it with love, and thinking of what I would enjoy. As such I have earned my fair share.
Many companies with poor sales make games out of ideology or expecting only profit, without interest in customer satisfaction. These are the consequences.

Well a sjw literally lit themselves on fire. Chloe Sagal lit herself on fire and the people didn't put her out fast enough.

I'm going to say something a little controversial, it was well established she had mental issues and she could have been prevented from doing this, but the problem is that the sjw community thinks these sorts of problems are "lol omg quirky". If someone has in the past tried to kill themselves multiple times and displayed self harming habits that's not something you should get them help for. They were seeing a psychologist, but unfortunately they decided to take their own life.

I try not to talk too much about myself, but I used to be a sjw and I was kind of in the same spot to be honest. Back in the day I did used to hurt myself and my "friends" at the time did nothing nor tried to get me to see help cause "lol u so quirky" mentality; self harm is not like dying your hair purple "quirky™" they need help.

Uh oh. Something is foul in the state of Marvel. So the MCU may be in serious fucking trouble. Marvel may be retiring Tony, Captain America, the Hulk, etc. The new Avengers will be Captain Marvel, Dr Strange, Spiderman, Black Panther, Sam.

Hey remember how Xmen already tried this and it fucked up everything and now the franchise is semi-dead?

That is terrible. I am glad you left that group before you went too far.
I am not well aware of who Chloe Sagal is (Too many names to remember) but it is terrible to see this happen.
I have mentioned before I was also an SJW, or bordered into it. I never inflicted self harm, but I did notice SJWs glorify mental illness (Often claiming it is a sign of individuality) and self harm.
I have little to say regarding Sagal's case, but I can say that makes me sad. Most of those SJWs who suffer from suicidal tendencies are not like the evil kind we see (Anita Sarkeesian for example) leading, but rather people who needed affection and couldn't find it anywhere. May her soul find rest.

Regarding Marvel. Well. I like Doctor Strange and Black Panther, so let's see how that one goes. I was getting a bit tired of Cap and Iron Man anyway. Not to mention there is the running gag on fan communities that 90% of the issues in the franchise are created by Iron Man in one way or another.
I think Ant Man should be in the new lineup though. Probably instead of Spiderman.

Chole Sagan was severely mentally ill and was allowed to get away with it due to being a trans SJW. Not all trans people are mentally ill, but it mental illness will likely be more prevalent in that community due to a number of factors and not just "this dude want to be a chick".

Sagal was so bad Brianna Wu even called her out on her shit, that's saying something right there.

Thank god SJWs have no real political power more than just being annoying, but in a few generations god knows how it will be, especially now that we're seeing a culture clash with some of elements of left and right wing demagoguery.

Shouldn't they just add those characters instead of removing the others?

Actually they do have a lot of power, especially among certain politicians who see them as potential voters and in colleges. The average citizen rejects them, but they have placed themselves in high places through corrupt means.

Left-Wing Media Cabal Outed, Features 400 Members From Journalism, Academia
Well whaddya know Gamergate was right about the synchronized journalists

I know this is more along the lines of politics and shit, but a lot of """"progressives"""" are losing in Congress primaries. It's a little bit of schaudenfraud but I'm enjoying watching sjws freak the fuck out. The final nail in the coffin for them is coming not from gamer gate or Republicans or such but rather people on the left who don't agree with them.

Stabbing sound
Sjws, "et tu brute?"
Social Dems, "Be quiet now"

Moral of this: don't piss off the people you're """fighting for""".

Best part is that it was outed by Jezebel (a.k.a. Gawker's feminist branch) as part of some SJW turf battle with Jessie Singal.

This is more industry related; I don't think the pc gaming industry is going to go shit like cellphone gaming. The thing that people keep forgetting is that programming for cellphones is a bastard because cellphones are meant to squeeze as much performance possible out.

What is probably going to happen after the current "crash" is a lot of $5 cartoony multiplayer-only games with no story or such.

I would go into a very very long explanation of why mobile gaming went to shit and never recovered, but to make it extremely short: while there is a large market for cellphone games cellphones just aren't designed to play games. There's also how because they try to squeeze out as much performance it makes coding a absolute cluster fuck. There's also the peripheral problem.

Once the current stupidity going with pc gaming subsides realistically what is going to happen is we won't see the companies doing scummy tactics all of a sudden care about making good games; more realistically they're not going to do stupid shit like p2w, lootboxes, spyware in games, etc, etc, etc. Realistically those companies are still going to be around, rather more realistically they're going to make a bunch of games that take all of a month to make. A lot of companies are currently being caught in a ever increasingly spiral of trying to race to the lowest sticker price to try and keep up sales; however this isn't a good business model.

Current shit, "for $5 you can have the super shotgun 5000 in our early access $60 game!"
Future shit, "for $5 you can buy our prop hunt standalone game with a grand total of 1 map"

That is partly true. It is a mostly Western thing. I have noticed some, not many, but some, fair quality Asian mobile games, and it is said gaming, even mobile, is at its strongest in those regions. Partly because of how they manage things.
A few companies like Konami make global disasters, but even companies with a few stains in their reputation like Square Enix stay strong by appealing to their existing fans in an everlasting weeb circlejerk between players and developers.
As someone once discussed, fan service is not always erotic in nature, and Final Fantasy is the incarnation of fan service in a series.

I wonder if Billy D is aware that Kiwifarms is watching him with interest and keeping records.

Another thing that people fucked up is that a lot of the more successful companies they teach artists or such basics of programming to some extent and whenever they have nothing to do have them work on the programming also as a b team; flip side also a lot of programmers teaching them the basics of 3d modeling. The way a lot of western video game companies operate now is extremely inefficient.

It probably has something to do with how many developers in Asia see game developing closer to art than to business (As if they were shows or movies) while Western developers focus in video games "as a service". Something which Konami attempted with painful results.
Since video games are entertainment, the "games as a service" model is a generally risky idea. It is as if your favorite TV show charged a fee per episode beyond the TV or streaming service you already pay.
Let's say for example. Netflix charges a user fee, but if suddenly Stranger Things had a price tag separate from that fee, and requiring to also pay the Netflix fee, then no one would watch the show.
That si what has been happening with gaming in the West.
People don't mind paying for cosmetic items or to reduce effort. What offends them is when you must pay to improve the actual game experience or when they buy the game at a high price and they must pay for more content.

This is a little funny; apparently EA and such are starting to beg people to buy their stocks after the last couple clusterfucks. Contrary to what a lot of people think stock investors aren't stupid, they can smell whenever a company is failing to meet it's projected sales a mile away.

This could actually help EA if someone with a different, more consumer friendly mindset became the majority shareholder.
That would lead to an improvement in the company because, even if not owning the company, that individual would have a saying in what to do.
Let's say there are two proposals. A game full of loot boxes and the typical SJW pandering, or a simpler, less EA like game which could attract consumers but is not what EA likes nowadays. That shareholder would be able to say "We are making the consumer friendly game. Why? Because I pretty much own you. And if you refuse you will lose my money too."

So according to The Sun #Gamergate lead to the use of Fortnight as a recruiting ground for Neo Nazis.

I'm not making that up.

#Gamergate made me miss the bus.

#Gamergate ate the last pickle in the jar.

#Gamergate snuck into The Family Circus and replaced Not Me and Ida Know.

#Gamergate turned my cat gay.

#Gamergate made my dog a nazi. No wait that was some Scottish dude.

Well. I WAS recruited by Neo Nazis. But not on Fortnite. Lol. Just kidding. I don't side with any collective.

Also, #GamerGate is turning the friggin frogs gay!

Well this is a interesting development; I genuinely won't give a sauce here not because I don't have one, but because sjw's are trying to metaphorically whore themselves out at this point.

It's finally dawned on sjw's that nobody likes the shit they make so they're trying to "start discussions" with people who disagree with them. This isn't really a victory, because whenever they try and "start discussions" they're asking the people to plug their links and shit.

Basically:
"Hey anti-sjw I'll debate you on your livestream so long as you plug my patreon in the description"

Why do I think they're doing this? Cause they've metaphorically fucked themselves financially in the long run and they've realized this. To use an analogy two years ago Anita was touring the country going to major universities, speaking on television and such; nowadays she has pretty much nothing.

Well. That is a rather old tactic they learned in colleges. It is very similar to a more direct debate form of academic paywalls. And they do it because nobody likes their shit.
You see. Many college papers are garbage, but they circlejerk each other through citations. And any legit scholar trying to study the published piece will need to buy access to a dozen of other documents.
It is an SJW tactic learned in colleges. Once I remember a teacher in college told me "The real business here is making a bogus paper and sell it as high as possible." They don't care about education or knowledge, all they want is to sell their papers. Especially in humanities. We leave the place unemployable. We have four career paths. Freelancing something we are good at (We took that one), minimum wage employee, enslaved salaryman at something barely related to our career, or joining the academic circlejerk of bogus papers.
DON'T go to college unless it is inevitable. Few careers actually require it (Like med school for example). Other than that you waste your time. Don't waste your time in humanities.

The thing that set off sjw's realizing this is that indie comics are starting to sell better than mainstream comics.

Current comic book industry: "tell me about my feminist agenda"
What comic books are going to look like in five years: hot buff chicks with guns killing zombies cough Rags cough

Sjw's have screwed themselves so hard in the long run that they can't even compete against indie products anymore. Even in video games we're starting to see this; a lot of indie games are starting to massively outsell AAA games. How they tried taking over the scifi genre has fucked up. Call me a jerk but with superhero movies they're probably going to fuck up, because a lot of the shit we're hearing about Captain Marvel isn't good. Before I get a downvote no it's not cause she's a woman, rather that the directors everything they make is consistently on rotten tomatoes and such rates 6/10 or 7/10; the directors for the movie are meh. We're looking at another Solo movie here.

To use a meme to explain the situation sjw's are currently finding themselves in:

All anti-sjw's have to do at this point is wait them out, because sjw's current projects are worth literally tens of billions of dollars collectively at this point. Given how much of a financial flop many of their projects are the next year isn't going to go well for them. They know that they've done fucked up at this point, but it's far far too late for them to back out of their projects or change them; if they pulled out they'd lose more money than if people hate their comics or movies or such.

2018: the year sjw's after having lost billions of dollars ante up and instead pushed for tens of billions of dollars in the same type of products that have been selling poorly.

I can only guess they honestly thought that if they change this stuff to be more "inclusive" that women and people of color would join in droves (of course ignoring the POC and women already in those areas), or that other SJW's would come in droves not understanding they just don't care about these platforms.

That or they thought that everyone would just stay and put up with this shit not realizing that unlike TV or movies comics and games are not nearly as centralized and that indie can be alive and well especially when you're competing against people both outside of the country but also out of North America as a whole and you have to deal with them a lot more than TV or Movies have too

It was probably the later.
Before the emergence of independent content creators, most of these people sought to control cenralized media. Newspapers, TV shows, book publishers. These people took control of most content people consumed for about a century. But eventually international content and independent content began to overthrow them.

So a lot of the sales figures for games on Steam got leaked:
https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/8wsndg/ars_technica_sharing_leaked_steam_sales_figures/
Tldr; gamers don't like sjw's or shoehorned politics.

Univision is looking to sell their Gawker sites after less than two years of ownership as Univision continues to hemorrhage money.

The problem is that they kept the same employee and brand. Rebranding and keeping the assets while firing previous employees would work. Fire all SJWs and you get a useful company. Because get woke go broke is real

This isn't really related to gamergate, but it is interesting nonetheless. So StudioTrigger is opening up their own patreon. With how little dvd sales and tv views matter anymore a lot of studios for anime are looking for alternative ways to bring in more revenue.

"I don't understand what is so controversial about this? A lot of game studios and such do this all the time"
Cause it'll promote anime studios to make the """"""""wrong"'''''''''''' kind of anime.

"Wrong" as in low quality writing and preachy content which SJWs like and even though not wrong it will harm them financially in he long run, or "wrong" as in full of things SJWs hate like erotic fan service, loli, big breasts, panty shots, hypermasculine characters, violence, antifeminist ideals, gay mocking (not bashing), homoeroticism, magical girls, guys in spandex, and… Oh wait. That is basically a lewd version of JoJo's…?

I see no reason to worry, other than the fact that maybe animation studios suffering financial loss would grow desperate and that could create a flood of crappy series (We already saw it happen with the shonen and moe genres courtesy of Kadokawa) which would harm the reputation of anime as animated junk food.

In the end the audience chooses what to watch. A man chooses, a slave obeys. Stand, would you kindly?

@Alarkoz
The later

On average a anime episode costs about $300,000 to make. The worst case scenario with this is that anime studios will be even further pressured to use cgi, cgi can be good if it's a good studio but a lot of times like you said certain companies flood series.

The kind of mixed thing about this is that we might see a lot of anime movies and shorter seasons rather than full blown tv shows. A 24 episode anime show on average costs at least $7 million to make; a 12 episode anime costs on average costs $3.6 million on average; one of those short more of ona or ova shows that are six episodes costs only on average $1.8 million; a movie would cost about $1.2 million.