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Remember when that judge got accused of rape from a woman and we had months of me 2?

Biden gets accused of sexual assault and its fucking dead silence.

Im not even saying the me2 movement for the Judge was wrong and maybe Biden is innocent. But people not giving the same seriousness to both cases is just,wow

This election was super eye opening for me to see how fucking fake most of the left is, at least the fake Hollywood media version of the left is.

Im probably not gonna come into this thread anymore. The state of politics right now is so sickening unless my life is in immediate danger from the government or a forceful changing of power happens I actually can't express in words how disappointed I am with this country right now.

Sick of playing "which billionaire elite rapist shill do you want to slowly decay the country away this time?" and seeing people fight over "my evil psychopathic monster has one less horn than your evil rapist demon" honestly just makes me sick

Kups said:

we need to start from scratch to get a better government
nuetering our current one won’t help, just dely the problem
we need a new constitutional convention, and one that bars any lobbyists, and current/former office holders from attending

Be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it, with everything that comes with it. Like conservative majorities stripping away civil liberties.

Well if we do start from the ground up i can strip away the conservative majorities with targeted serial killings and arson to even the scales.

Neoliberalism formed in the wake of Reagan. It was the democrat response to Reagan and Bush's presidencies. Reagan and Bush were popular at the time so instead of continuing left the democrats went right. That's why it won in 1992 and 1996.
Obama pretended to be progressive in 2008, which is why he won. He helped the economy and killed Bin Laden during his first term. Mitt Romney isn't a likable person so Obama was guaranteed reelection.

Those explanation apply to every democrat, not just the ones that won. It applies to the ones that lost too.

Yeah, you're right, instead of trying to change anything
I'll just let it slowly decay because it "might" get worse faster if I try to fix anything

The question people need to be asking is why doesn't Biden or the Democrats simply adopt Bernie's policy proposals? If the only thing the Dems want is Trump gone and a charismatic figurehead in charge, why not try to actually win Bernie's supporters and independent voters over?

The refusal to make concessions to the left and instead start making excuses 7 months before November about how "Bernie Bros" are going to throw the election because they weren't properly motivated by Joe Biden's corpse being pulled by strings instead of Joe Biden motivating voters by promising them what they actually want is what's actually going to kill Democrat support in the general election.

Ignoring the shitshow that is the current events. Is there any guide to voting in local and state elections?

> why not try to actually win Bernie's supporters and independent voters over?

Can you name even one policy that;
A: has majority independent and democrat support
B: Is pushed heavily by bernie
C: NOT supported by Biden?

Medicare for all

barely. Public option is significantly more popular, and what biden backs. Also; Most Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents (55%) say they prefer a candidate who would build on the Affordable Care Act to achieve those goals. Fewer (40%) prefer a candidate who would replace the ACA with a Medicare-for-all plan.

Ending forever wars
legalizing marijuana
ending outsourcing
campaign finance reform

I've usually used Ballotpedia to find who's running beforehand and backing it up with additional searches.

End Forever Wars: Biden will end the forever wars in Afghanistan and the Middle East, which have cost us untold blood and treasure. As he has long argued, Biden will bring the vast majority of our troops home from Afghanistan and narrowly focus our mission on Al-Qaeda and ISIS. And he will end our support for the Saudi-led war in Yemen. Staying entrenched in unwinnable conflicts only drains our capacity to lead on other issues that require our attention, and it prevents us from rebuilding the other instruments of American power.

Decriminalize the use of cannabis and automatically expunge all prior cannabis use convictions. Biden believes no one should be in jail because of cannabis use. As president, he will decriminalize cannabis use and automatically expunge prior convictions. And, he will support the legalization of cannabis for medical purposes, leave decisions regarding legalization for recreational use up to the states, and reschedule cannabis as a schedule II drug so researchers can study its positive and negative impacts.

Not sure what you mean by "ending outsourcing". Like, end globalization and become isolationist? I'm not sure thats very popular.

Biden has advocated for public financing of federal campaigns since the very beginning of his Senate career. He first co-sponsored legislation to create a public financing system for House and Senate candidates in 1973. In 1997 and many years afterward, he co-sponsored a constitutional amendment that would have limited contributions as well as corporate and private spending in elections and prevented the damage caused by the Supreme Court in Citizens United.

Have you considered doing research your self into these topics instead of parroting right wing propaganda?

Maybe the outsourcing part means stopping the dependency on Chinese manufacturing?

In all honestly for how badly Trump has handled the outbreak if he promises to punish China for how their cover-up got people in other countries killed he could easily win in a landslide

Americans will easily eat that stuff up

He has shown many times that he has no interesting in punishing china. He wants to put his name on a china trade deal that helps his family business. thats is. He has praised Xi Jinping and done very little in calling out china's actions against Hong Kong and muslim minorities.

I think you're probably right about that, but I don't think Americans would care unfortunately.

You know what will hasten the US into becoming the next Ethiopia, Venezuela, or Russia? Letting President after President abuse their constitutionally restricted power, with the blessing of their own base, because it's far more important for short-term political ass-kicking than long term potential for abuse.

And what abuse it could be when you have someone like Trump. The thing that is great about Trump is that he doesn't hide it. It is so utterly blatant! The only thing that is sad is that if this was a Democrat doing it the Republicans would go ape-shit, and the Democrats would be just fine with it as long as it was as clearly was the case with Obama and it was just as clear as it was under Bush Jr. This has been going on for decades my man. It culminates in this.

What you're hoping for is that the next President is good-hearted, kind-hearted looking out for your interest and won't push the Presidential powers – and now you got Biden.

But maybe it is a pipe dream. But it at least is resonating among the Democrats and the left – seeing what such a presidency can do. And is being discussed more and more and more

Although, maybe the Biden Presidency would be so utterly lame-duck, Congress can take back much of it's power back under his nose. Maybe :)

Honestly I'd be fine with a president who criminalizes the right wing. Just as germany criminalizes nazism.

Oh yeah, sure.
No way that can backfire horrifically.

Even if some on the right certainly deserve it, for various reasons.

I agree with BrentD15.

…no, no punchline, he's absolutely right.

It's one of those things where i did a lot of contemplating on what good policies the right wing has versus the left and honestly couldn't find any. Fiscal Conservatism is always touted as being the big one but the right recklessly spends on military projects and building up bases and armies both foreign and domestic. They say they want less wars and more isolationism but refuse to shut down foreign bases, and continue to spend more and more trillions on RND projects which get scrapped or used as a tax write-off for airplane manufacturers or that doesn't even work(The Nighthawk, The Osprey, The F-35). About the only thing they seem to like is "traditional values" but as time goes on this becomes less about protecting the old ways of doing things and just becomes about ignoring facts and science in favor of literally anything else like Faith Healing, Anti-Vax, Anti-LGBTQ rights, Pro-Discrimination, Holistic Medicine, Multi-Level-Marketing, And the latest trend of pretending black people were happier as slaves and that the Confederates Din Dun Nuffin.

Honestly the only time the Republicans were good was when they were the radical leftists, and believed in that insane idea of Abolistionism.

Holy shit. Brent and I actually agree on something

@Black Graphic T

If you're major complaint about the right wing in the US is the failure and hypocrisy of their politicians to realize their views – i.e. fiscal conservatism, enough to warrant criminalization, then what about the hypocritical failure of the Obama administration and gitmo? Outright ignoring Congress when he wanted to bomb Libya? When he did bomb Pakistanis, over and over and over again? Or let's go back even tot he Clinton years with the disastrous intervention in the Balkans? And how far do you want to go? After all, the only reason America's international military interventionism is a direct result of a Democrat President: Woodrow Wilson. And do we really need to bring up the failures and hypocricy of the left's treatment of African Americans, and the abject failure of their policies to actually uplift or help them? My DUDE The Democrats are running Joe Biden the guy who literally wrote the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, sponsored by another Democrat, Jack Brooks, and signed into law by Bill Clinton. This was a disastrous act that directly led to massive prison overcrowding today, massive incarceration rates. It is the American Democrats and the Left that is vehemently against any kind of education reform, such as a voucher system, trapping black youths into shit schools in urban areas – all to protect the interests of various teachers unions.

Or is it that the right are the only bad guys here?

reminds me if this that I saved a few years ago

Listing a bunch of right wing policies doesn't really do much to prove me wrong. Right wing people have been infesting Democrats and have rotted Republicans into a bloated corpse of a party. Right wing views from Democrats and Republicans aren't worth protecting.

Ultimately, I believe that the Republican Party and the Conservative Movement has become corrupted by a cesspool of religious fervor, anti-government extremists, financial gluttons, and actual mobsters. The best way to purge this disease is the ballot box.

Speaking of which, mail-in voting and the post office are the latest boogeymen of the GOP, if you couldn't tell by the coordinated messaging and the desire by the President to defund the USPS.

Damn, the cabin fever from the quarantine is turning people into Tankies now.

I'm thoroughly baffled myself, honestly. How did this happen?

…maybe it's the whole "quarantine is turning people into tankies" thing that Chewybunny said.

Look mate, I’m all for hanging nazis
but banning anything “right wing” is dangously unspecific totalitarianism

When has censorship of political beliefs ever made things better?

You mean the country that currently has it's far-right party owning 94 seats in it's national government and who's membership is still rising, yeah it's worked out great /s

CNN’s Coverage of Sanders Was 3X More Negative Than Biden Following Their Big Primary Wins

>Given its down-the-middle reputation, CNN can be a useful proxy for broader media coverage.

excuse me?? That is an incredibly bad use of data.

And speaking of bias… https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/in-these-times/

I'm just really tired of this idea that if you say something bad about a candidate, then you are bias. Of course there were more negatives talk about sanders after nevada, it meant SC was then the focus, and state where he was polling horribly at. Biden had good coverage after SC because, again, polling showed him doing well in the next election day. Of their data, only ~10% of mentions were even negative. Most were neutral.

So you just base what bias is based on whether or not it's a news source you like saying it.

Btw the facts I get about media bias aren't from a right wing source, they're from Secular Talk, a show which is run by one of the founders of Justice Democrats

Trump is putting the US Postage service at risk

>So you just base what bias is based on whether or not it's a news source you like saying it.

no.

>Secular Talk

have you considered watching and reading news sources that aren't incredibly bias?

You said there's no bias in the media, then you proceed to say my source is biased.

"have you considered watching and reading news sources that aren't incredibly bias?"
Such as?

It’s doublethink mate

Virginia Governor Ralph Northam signs law, declaring Election Day a holiday.

"It's hard to win a party's primary when running against that party" is such an obvious flaw in the Sanders campaign's thinking that it probably needs to be the jumping-off point for any and all postmortems. https://t.co/ExraJaXDyw

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) April 13, 2020

Bernie just wasn't all that popular with the voters this time around, and even with all the accommodations made for him to give the appearance of a fair run, he still couldn't win the majority of voters.

"appearance of a fair run"

Being a bit more honest I see.

Its hilarious that the DNC made every single concession that bernie and his fans asked for, and he still lost, AND much of his base is still complaining about it being rigged against him.
literally what do you people want?

No more half measures.
Medicare for all, not ACA
Legalized Marijuana, not decriminalized
Complete withdraw of troops in the middle east, not a partial withdraw like Obama and Trump
Overturn Citizens United v. FEC instead of just saying "dark money bad"

I was referring to the democrat primary process.

Hold the elections in such a way, people don't have to leave work/college to vote.

By that I mean I don't need to take more than 1 hour to get everything over with.

Sure was weird how every college town and low income neighborhood had the smallest number of polling stations open and had 8 hour waiting times.