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No!! wrote:

What great replacement anyway? The amount of white people hasn't reduced at all

The great replacement theory stems from the idea that there are cultural, academic, and political forces seeking demographic changes in the US where "white" people no longer have a demographic majority.
According to the Brookings Institute
Whites will become a minority in 2045.

And shrinking.

The premise of the replacement theory is that it is a deliberate multi-generational attempt at reducing the white race in the US. And to be honest, the proponents of this theory have quite an extensive library of evidence to point to – mainstream articles encouraging lower birth rates among whites, a gradual increase in cultural animosity towards whites, shrinking birth rates, etc.

The thing is though…
Much of the framework revolving this argument is the same framework that many identitarians on the "progressive" side have. The premise is the same, but the reaction is different.

The entire system of race-based identity in the US and North America in general is so absurd that it makes arguments on either side completely and utterly pointless. My perspective on it is from the USSR view – believe it or not the USSR was extremely multicultural and multi-ethnic (but not multi-racial as the premise of "race" in the Western sense is alien). My grandfather and father are from Ukraine, I was born in Moldova, my mom in Siberia – near Mongolia. My grandmother is Romanian and both grandparents fled the Holocaust to Uzbekistan whos culture my grandfather absolutely holds dear. In the US i've met Armenians that spoke Russians, I've dated a Georgian girl that spoke Russian, and I had a strange encounter at a store not long ago from a Central Asian country (they clearly looked east-Asian) who were Russian. But in every instance, the ethnic and national differences are as distinct as how races view one another here in the US. My friends from Belarus and Ukraine would make fun of me being from Moldova, and we'd all make fun of the various "stans" that used to belong to the USSR. It's why I have a hard time debating race with either the left and the right. Because simple questions like "Are Armenians and Azerbaijanis "white"?" Or more specifically relevant to me "Are Jews "white"?" Are Russians from Eastern Siberia (Asia) considered "White" or "Asian"? Or is it "white passing"? Certainly my mom can pass as white but my grandmother on my mom's side looks more like she's Asian than White. Where are the lines drawn? Because clearly, to me, there are no lines, it's so arbitrary.

And both sides are obsessed with these subjective and arbitrary lines that seem to have no place outside of the North American continent.

I am not inclinded to agree, while both sides have the wonks who obsess with race I only see currently the american left as taking it to heart and largely only to the point of wielding it as a political cudgel to smear opposition and deter attacks in areas the democrats are increasingly weak in.

Until trump came along the right had been mostly cowed and the change he brought hasnt been some sort of racist revial but pushing the reaction of "no I'm not and fuck you for trying to falsely lable me such".

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Or you could do what your ancestors did and live on a diet that doesnt include lots of teeth rotting food.

If you can call that living, but the choice exists never the less.

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Cant see anything wrong with thinking the government has the same advantage in wisdom to its constituents as a parent would to a child.

Also cant think of anything wrong with summing up the entirety of a movements motivations with a twitter post by r/libertarianmeme and a political cartoon.

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Makes you wonder what the other 13 posts are.

EdIt: found it

Feels odd to be witnessing a psych deconstruction from my own political quadrent.

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Excuse me you are WRONG! The most oppressed group in the world is gamers

Do this people not realize that if people take the vaccine this whole shit might actually fucking end?! Seriously, I been bascially stuck inside my fucking house for a whole god damn year

No!! wrote:

Excuse me you are WRONG! The most oppressed group in the world is gamers

Do this people not realize that if people take the vaccine this whole shit might actually fucking end?! Seriously, I been bascially stuck inside my fucking house for a whole god damn year

As I said earlier it's because they have to do something
conservationism in the us has devolved into considering anything that makes them do something to be a conspiracy, like vaccines, covid, and global warming

Kenetic Kups wrote:

As I said earlier it's because they have to do something
conservationism in the us has devolved into considering anything that makes them do something to be a conspiracy, like vaccines, covid, and global warming

Their persecution complexes, as well as the people who are funding efforts to keep them that way, will be the end of us all.

Greyblades wrote:

It is the one group in the country the government feels comfortable threatening to shut down companies that employ them.

No, it's one of the few groups the government is right to threaten companies that employ them

Spaghetto wrote:

I feel like there are simpler explanations than some weird talk of "sexual archetypes" anyways

I think it's just that speedrunning is popular in general, but both Twitch and GDQ administration lean hard left to the point of parody and being openly conservative in entertainment media (which modern speedrunning is) is fucking your career over unless you want to work for Ben Shapiro.

There is probably a correlation between speedrunning and high-functioning autism though.

Kenetic Kups wrote:

Reasonable laws aren’t tyranny

It's not a law, its the threat of using executive orders, you know one of the things the democrats cried tyranny at trump for using only to go silent when it was thier guy.

Head of government threatening a company with shutdown if they do not fire an employee? Tyranny.

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Greyblades wrote:

It's not a law, its the threat of using executive orders, you know one of the things the democrats cried tyranny at trump for using only to go silent when it was thier guy.

Head of government threatening a company with shutdown if they do not fire an employee? Tyranny.

If trump did it I would support it just as much
I don't care about partisan nonsense

:̶.̶|̶:̶;̶ wrote:

To be fair I do think it's actually a good idea to have holocaust skeptic literature in classrooms… for debunking.

But I don't think that was their intention.

I'm not gonna try to guess what their intention was.
All I know is that it was meant to stick it to "the left", as it now defines the entire Republican playbook and mentality.

BrentD15 wrote:

I'm not gonna try to guess what their intention was.
All I know is that it was meant to stick it to "the left", as it now defines the entire Republican playbook and mentality.

Look I get that the "left" isn't perfect by any means but I really don't get what the left has done to them for them to be this salty

No!! wrote:

Look I get that the "left" isn't perfect by any means but I really don't get what the left has done to them for them to be this salty

It's stock partisanship, Democrats work the exact same way. Though, "sticking it to the left/right" isn't actually a spelled-out motivation 99 times out of 100; it's generally more of an assumption or an extrapolation.

Though in this case, it appears that this isn't actually the law at play. It's just one administrator going rogue, sparked by a teacher getting in trouble for an "anti-racism" book (which was the right play IMO, judging by its page on Amazon)

BrentD15 wrote:

I'm not gonna try to guess what their intention was.
All I know is that it was meant to stick it to "the left", as it now defines the entire Republican playbook and mentality.

Yeh, I miss when reps had an actual ideology
all the modern ones just support whatever "triggers the libs"

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Kenetic Kups wrote:

Yeh, I miss when reps had an actual ideology
all the modern ones just support whatever "triggers the libs"

Also nowadays republicans get way too….ehem… "friendly" with racists, Trump especially was way too supportive of the KKK

Don't get me wrong I ain't a fan of how easily people get accused of racism sometimes , but …yeah

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No!! wrote:

Also nowadays republicans get way too….ehem… "friendly" with racists, Trump especially was way too supportive of the KKK

Don't get me wrong I ain't a fan of how easily people get accused of racism sometimes , but …yeah

But I am starting to regret my previous comment cause I am getting tired of the whole identity politics shit now that I think about it

I am more about welfare than caring about race tbh

The final results of the California recall are in.
Effectively Gavin Newsom won the same exact numbers he did now as he did in 2018. However. Major shift in who is supporting him has occurred – and it lines up directly with the greater National divisions manifesting themselves in the electorate.

Exit polling from the 2021 " election indicated that Newsom lost ground with white voters without a college degree, Latino voters and Black voters, but was able to offset those losses with dramatic gains in white voters with a college degree."

The results are a bit suprising to me as well. According to the SFGate map that shows where support decreased and increased I found it extremely interesting that in Los Angeles County, where I live, support for Newsom has actually dropped. Not by much, but a change non the less. Meanwhile, the county south of me, the very wealthy and, relatively, conservative Orange County actually had more support.

"In 2018, Latino voters backed Newsom 64% to 35%, but the governor carried them only 58% to 42% in the recall. Among Black voters, Newsom's standing slipped from 86% to 14% support to 81% to 19% support."

I highly suspect that the loss in support among the Hispanic community and the Black community is because they felt the brunt of the arbitrary rules regarding the lockdowns which have devastated many small businesses that employ largely Hispanics and Blacks. Loyalty to the Democratic party has always been a staple of both of these groups but to see it take a fairly modest hit shows a tide in California politics that is changing.

Obviously California isn't going to turn Red anytime soon.
But if you look at the data that came out many of the more "red" counties in California are also it's agricultural bread and butter. To the exception of the "wine counties" such as Shasta, and Sonoma, which remain blue. Indeed, California is a great microcosm of the macrocosmic political divide in the US – between more rural areas and industries focused around raw-goods, vs densely populated urbanites who's numbers and political power effectively trample them.

No!! wrote:

Have you seen Trump?

Like I didnt actually believe republicans were actually racist then Trump came along

Now…idk

I've spent 5 years having article after article, hit piece after hit piece thrust into my face proving the irrefutability of every isms to which the Orange man is the most rabid example, (so rabid that they somehow just wasn't noticed until June 2015).

Time and again I have been possessed by an uncontrollable urge; to which I must actually read the article presented to me by randoms on the internet. Such a recurrent curse has oft denied me delicious moral indignation as the promise of dopamine hit is spoiled by a text not fulfilling the salacious headline.

This curse is of such perfidy that when such promise is actually lived up to I am compelled to actually take a look at the sources only to find my scintillation denied by the mark of that outrageous cad the anonymous source.

"The blaggard of a rogue has denied my voyeuristic delights for the last time" I think to myself and forswear the life of the compulsive verifier to the depths, only to always have relapsed within the hour as the endless storm brings another whiff of blessed indignation past my browser window.

Such is my pain. Blue balled by my requirement for confirmation.

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Spaghetto wrote:

It's stock partisanship, Democrats work the exact same way. Though, "sticking it to the left/right" isn't actually a spelled-out motivation 99 times out of 100; it's generally more of an assumption or an extrapolation.

Though in this case, it appears that this isn't actually the law at play. It's just one administrator going rogue, sparked by a teacher getting in trouble for an "anti-racism" book (which was the right play IMO, judging by its page on Amazon)

Let me guess, Robin DiAngelo's “White Fragility"?

Yes, that has no business being taught (uncritically, at least) in schools either.

You can teach history without teaching either pro-American or anti-American propaganda.

:̶.̶|̶:̶;̶ wrote:

Let me guess, Robin DiAngelo's “White Fragility"?

Yes, that has no business being taught (uncritically, at least) in schools either.

You can teach history without teaching either pro-American or anti-American propaganda.

I agree with this, The USA can often be obsessed with the USA whether in patriotism or self hatred

No!! wrote:

I see your point
But Trump is definetly racist
He doesn't like Latinos at all
He seems ok with black people but certainly not Latinos

Have you considered what he doesnt like isnt latinos but illegals. A dislike shared by many of the legal latino immigrant communities who view illegals as queue jumpers devaluing their labour.

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:̶.̶|̶:̶;̶ wrote:

Let me guess, Robin DiAngelo's “White Fragility"?

Yes, that has no business being taught (uncritically, at least) in schools either.

You can teach history without teaching either pro-American or anti-American propaganda.

Surprisingly, it's not that book… but the book in question seems like a kid-friendly version: Tiffany Jewell's "This Book is Anti-Racist". It starts with the author explaining why she's using "folx" and goes downhill from there, judging by the blurb and previews on Amazon.

At the very least, it shouldn't be in schools because it's stupid.

Greyblades wrote:

Have you considered what he doesnt like isnt latinos but illegals. A dislike shared by many of the legal latino immigrant communities who view illegals as queue jumpers devaluing their labour.

Not just legal Latino immigrants, but a large number of immigrants in general, myself included. Nothing pisses me off more than when illegal immigrants and "immigrants" are lumped into the same exact category by activists, as if we are exactly the same, have the same goals, the same experience in coming to the US.
And these same activists almost always push for more illegal immigration from one particular region rather than the rest of the world. And using language like "immigrant communities" as if they are all from the same region of the Earth, with same culture and experiences.

No!! wrote:

I see your point
But Trump is definetly racist
He doesn't like Latinos at all
He seems ok with black people but certainly not Latinos

He doesn't like black people.
He tried to keep them out of his properties in the 70's, and the government had to intervene.

Speaking of black people mistreatment, Wisconsin Republican Tom Tiffany is complaining that black farmer were receiving grants.

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BrentD15 wrote:

He doesn't like black people.
He tried to keep them out of his properties in the 70's, and the government had to intervene.

Speaking of black people mistreatment, Wisconsin Republican Tom Tiffany is complaining that black farmer were receiving grants.

We'll have to wait for a transcript, but there doesn't seem to be anything corroborating this claim.

I did find that, shortly after the law was initially enacted, Tiffany wanted to make sure it didn't give preferential treatment based on race or sex, so I feel it's safe to assume his comments likely fall along these lines, too.

BrentD15 wrote:

He doesn't like black people.
He tried to keep them out of his properties in the 70's, and the government had to intervene.

Speaking of black people mistreatment, Wisconsin Republican Tom Tiffany is complaining that black farmer were receiving grants.

As always; not that simple.

The complaintants against Trump's company included 5 from before Donald had been made president of his father's company; (1973 at the latest, wiki sources WaPo saying 1971 but paywalll doesnt let me see where their date comes from). Fred Trump remained Chairman of the board and sole shareholder. Fred had been runing the company for the previous 46 years and the government's '73 lawsuit referred to “Fred C. Trump, et al”.

All this makes it extremely difficult to place responsability for company practice at the feet of Donald as opposed to his father.

This is assuming responsibility lied with the top in the first place; if you have the stomach for a wall of text (Anyone else I'd say fat chance, but you do read propublica, so maybe) this article goes into it in depth.

After a back and forth with the prosecutor the Trumps got off with an order "to place ads informing minorities they had an equal opportunity to seek housing at their properties." Absent from the deal was an admission of guilt and Donald continues to deny wrong-doing to this day.

I dont think thats the sort of deal a confident prosecution settles for, nor what an avowed racist would agree to for that matter.

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BrentD15 wrote:

Will that even work? They are still teens how competent and productive will they be once working such long hours?

Also isn't labor shortages just a part of the free market?

No!! wrote:

Will that even work? They are still teens how competent and productive will they be once working such long hours?

Also isn't labor shortages just a part of the free market?

The market was never free. The corpulent overlords hate freedom.

And I absolutely despise my state.

In Wisconsin those as young as 14 can now work until late at night. If we're talking about slippery slopes, society has gone from one person supporting a family, to two being necessary. Soon, it'll be everyone having to work.

Nothing dramatic, just a slow slide to the industrial revolution or even neo-feudalism. Well, unless people make sure to push back against oligarchs.

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