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Last posted Nov 21, 2024 at 03:21AM EST. Added Jan 01, 2017 at 06:26PM EST
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martinprince12345 wrote:

The one case I've seen of that is from that asshole Nick Fuentes. And also some similar shit posted by Andrew Tate. Between that and the whole 4B bullshit, constant drama involving gender relations is gonna be tiresome.

https://x.com/Pinesap3wasc/status/1854587861942911272

https://x.com/ChiefTrumpster/status/1854024389743833479

https://x.com/reimufascism/status/1854576287601312242

https://x.com/I_Love_HitIer/status/1854582021860844019

It's definitely becoming a thing. And thats depressing as hell

Chewybunny wrote:

First, for the most part its my impression that Presidential candidates only know as much as they are allowed to know and when you take over the Oval Office that's when you are told things you never knew. This is why it's very rare for there to be major radical 180 on foreign policy – it takes time to exit out of something the previous administration did. Hence why Biden kept most of Trump's foreign policy changes intact with minor attempts at changing them. In this case we have a former President who knew as much as he did until January of 2021, and a VP who knows as much as a VP is allowed to know regarding foreign policy.

In this case, we already have a report that Zelensky already called and talked with Trump and that it went excellently. There is rumor now in that article that what Trump proposes is a 20 year delay in joining NATO, a freeze to the war, and US continuing to pour weapons into Ukraine. Whether Putin agrees to this I do not know, as this would be a bigger win for Ukraine than it is for Putin.

I was thinking back on the last 2 nearly 3 years since the war in Ukraine began. I would often state that the gradual drop of support for Ukraine began to drop when it was viewed as a potential major geopolitical win for the Biden administration. As such they began to become hostile to the Ukrainians because the Democrats and the Left was largely so supportive. They never really cared too deeply about the conflict or it's ramifications – it served a near term political end. But then Israel/Palestine happened which began to draw away attention to Ukraine. And then Biden drops out, and it's Kamala Harris, and the conflict isn't nearly as tied down to her as it was for Biden. So I was doing some thinking and now I have to ask, during the last 3 months how often did either candidate, Trump or Harris, even talk about Ukraine? I just think the issue is no longer as strongly felt for the Republicans as it once did. In the end, it is always about economic anxiety (immigration and war tends to intersect nicely with this). This is just to say that the right will go along with whatever Trump proposes – or supports, even if it is Ukraine. Yes. It's hypocrisy.

At the end of the day Trump has more in common with Zelensky than he does with Putin.
If what is written down is true: continued arms supplies to Ukraine (probably sold), a 20 year delay in joining NATO, and a conflict freeze on the front lines, it would be an incredible win for Zelensky, barely something Putin can bring home.

Here's the truth. The war now looks like WW1 trench warfare. Battle lines are slowly changing (which is boring af for news media and American attention spans). Yes, the Ukranians are taking massive pummeling, and are dying by the truck loads. Yes, Russia clearly has the demographic advantage on paper. But the reality is that Ukranians are dying to defend something, Russians are throwing non-ethnic Russian into a meat grinder to such disastrous levels they had to rely on prisoners to fill the ranks…and when they ran out of that, they are now actively employing North Korean soldiers to fight for them. Ukraine cannot keep this war going on it's own, and if the US pulls out it would mean the Europeans need to push in harder…yet I am keenly aware that the support for Ukraine isn't as universal as we'd think in Europe especially as the economic toll hits them too (cheap Ukranian grain undermines local farmers, refugees, wasted resources on foreign conflicts during times of economic anxiety). Russia cannot keep the war going as well and it's become attricious. A total loss would be existential not just for Putin but for Russia as a whole. More and more of the war's impact is going to hit Moscow which is going to start a terrible cycle in Russian history. Nobody wants that, especially the US. Each person wants to get out of this war while maintaining power and a sense of victory.

For Ukraine, recognizing that the borders officially have not changed, but frozen, is a win. Because that can be negotiated later, by blade or by pen. A 20 year delay in joining NATO, that's fine, it was in no position in doing so anyway, and it would take at least 5 years to meet the requirements. Besides, Finland and Sweden joined NATO and that was already massive loss for Putin's rhetoric regarding NATO expansion. They can use these 20 years to integrate more with the EU, arm themselves, rebuild their nuclear program (already started, by the way), while giving the Europeans a chance to also start taking charge of their backyard more. For Putin it means that he can guarantee the survival of Crimea as part of Russia, and claim to have liberated the Russian parts of Ukraine, the war would end, many sanctions lifted, and he can come back with some semblance of a victory. Yes, millions of casualties, cementing Ukranian nationalism and identity, setting Russia back 50 years demographically, and embarrassing itself in front of the rest of the Asian powers like China, yes NATO expanded and now the Baltic is a NATO lake. But hey we kept Crimea, and even liberated Russians bring oppressed in Ukraine.
Zelensky and Putin need an honorable exit ramp that they can sell to their people. Trump needs legitimacy. A lot of motivations for making something happen. We'll see. I remain cautiously optimistic, as always.

Okay, thank you for your explanation.

There were a things I thought we could talk about the plan (enforcement mechancisms, how things went beyond PR, what happens if one side breaks it, limiting creation of grey zones, what each group brings to the table for the deal and other details), but that might need to wait for more details, and there's the first pressing question that's been brought up because of the other response you may have gotten: What happens if Putin's Russia say "no"?

Putin was given many off-ramps by China, to the EU to the US. I do not think that all political actors will be rational, which is the weakness of realpolitik.

Now, I know you're not a government official (I suspect you may have put more thought into this than the Trump administration), but if Russia just rejects the issue is the plan to give them more, or to shrug and go away anyway, or to continue aid, or change strategy, or what? I guess at this point we're all just left wondering.

Well, the only thing the EU can do at this point is try to strengthen their hand and strengthen Ukraine's.

I posted this as a comment on an image so I might as well post this here too:

Do absolutely correct me if I'm wrong but won't Trumps proposed tariffs on any goods from outside the US (60% on stuff from China and 20% from anywhere else outside the US) also have an affect on the video gaming and PC markets too? Two of the major console makers, Sony and Nintendo, are Japanese companies whose consoles are mass produced in China, and a lot of other parts game consoles and PC rely on are also made in China. I also wonder if any video games made in countries that aren't the US will get affected too, like get ready to see Japanese or Chinese made video games go even beyond the $70 price we're already complaining about (like imagine Black Myth Wukong suddenly ends up costing over $100 because it's made in China). That legit might act as some wake up call amongst the "weebs who watch too much TheQuartering and YellowFlash2" crowd, that the Asian video games they love the most because they romanticize countries like Japan as these "places free from DEI" are about to cost more because they didn't think voting for Trump would negatively affect them.

Mistress Fortune wrote:

I posted this as a comment on an image so I might as well post this here too:

Do absolutely correct me if I'm wrong but won't Trumps proposed tariffs on any goods from outside the US (60% on stuff from China and 20% from anywhere else outside the US) also have an affect on the video gaming and PC markets too? Two of the major console makers, Sony and Nintendo, are Japanese companies whose consoles are mass produced in China, and a lot of other parts game consoles and PC rely on are also made in China. I also wonder if any video games made in countries that aren't the US will get affected too, like get ready to see Japanese or Chinese made video games go even beyond the $70 price we're already complaining about (like imagine Black Myth Wukong suddenly ends up costing over $100 because it's made in China). That legit might act as some wake up call amongst the "weebs who watch too much TheQuartering and YellowFlash2" crowd, that the Asian video games they love the most because they romanticize countries like Japan as these "places free from DEI" are about to cost more because they didn't think voting for Trump would negatively affect them.

If Trump does this, he is gonna pay big time.

Mistress Fortune wrote:

I posted this as a comment on an image so I might as well post this here too:

Do absolutely correct me if I'm wrong but won't Trumps proposed tariffs on any goods from outside the US (60% on stuff from China and 20% from anywhere else outside the US) also have an affect on the video gaming and PC markets too? Two of the major console makers, Sony and Nintendo, are Japanese companies whose consoles are mass produced in China, and a lot of other parts game consoles and PC rely on are also made in China. I also wonder if any video games made in countries that aren't the US will get affected too, like get ready to see Japanese or Chinese made video games go even beyond the $70 price we're already complaining about (like imagine Black Myth Wukong suddenly ends up costing over $100 because it's made in China). That legit might act as some wake up call amongst the "weebs who watch too much TheQuartering and YellowFlash2" crowd, that the Asian video games they love the most because they romanticize countries like Japan as these "places free from DEI" are about to cost more because they didn't think voting for Trump would negatively affect them.

It has been a while since I have really bought anything video game related but for a lot of the disk games for Game cube i remember them stating Made in USA and Xbox 360 was Made in Puerto Rico. Only games i remember being manufactured overseas was the Gameboy cartridges that were made in Japan. There is always the option of building or buying a factory to move production in the USA which will create jobs and similar with Nearshoring to a free trade agreement country (Korea, Mexico, ect) or one with even lower costs that the 20% would not be as detrimental to the bottom line. There are also tariff waivers that can also be applied for generally for things that are impractical or impossible to make in the USA if it can be shown that the tariff would be very negative for the USA.

For example, Element Electronics opened a plant assembling TVs in South Carolina with mostly Chinese electrical components. When the components came under a new round of tariffs, there was a plan to close the plant. The company petitioned to the gov to get an exemption because the tariffs would have made the cost too high. Since they were the only ones building TVs in the USA and it would not be good for US interests, the Trump Admin gave an exemption and the plant is still running to this day.

FatmanAss wrote:

If Trump does this, he is gonna pay big time.

Well, how do we know the before-mentioned crowd will blame Trump first? I expect blaming Biden's economy, China, the video game companies, etc. before they even consider Trump.

No!! wrote:

I want to help trans people…but I aint dealing with this shit

Should someone need help while plainly within your sphere, I hope that you would make the choice to be a good neighbor. You cannot twist the gears of society into a new direction. Even politicians do not steer direction as much as they simply exploit the social tide. You can, however, make a difference for others. Mentally prepare yourself to help your neighbor so that you do not freeze when the opportunity presents itself.

olors64 wrote:

Since Trump can't run for president anymore, the democrats will have to develop an actual strategy instead of simply relying on being anti-trump.

More likely, what you'll get is "We need to keep on being anti-Trump so America doesn't elect another Trump."

California voters approve Proposition 3, reaffirming gay marriage in the California Constitution

At least this time around some of the American Left isn't waiting around twiddling their thumbs, promising that they'll "fix things" if they next get elected. If Roe vs Wade can go, so can Obergefell (taking the word of one of the Justices )

I recall how for Roe vs Wade it shifted from "it'll never happen" to "if they cared, they would have secured it". Lesson learned, be proactive and have the laws secured, to reduce fear & fearmongering you have to reduce this uncertainty that the lives of people can be upended on whim.

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Speaking of California, there are some propositions that do concern me on their results.

PROP 33: RENT CONTROL: not passed.

PROP 36: INCREASED SENTENCES FOR DRUG AND THEFT: passed

PROP 6: INVOLUNTARY SERVITUDE FOR INCARCERATED PERSONS AMENDMENT: leaning no

PROP 32: $18 MINIMUM WAGE: leaning no

KZN02 wrote:

Speaking of California, there are some propositions that do concern me on their results.

PROP 33: RENT CONTROL: not passed.

PROP 36: INCREASED SENTENCES FOR DRUG AND THEFT: passed

PROP 6: INVOLUNTARY SERVITUDE FOR INCARCERATED PERSONS AMENDMENT: leaning no

PROP 32: $18 MINIMUM WAGE: leaning no

For everyone crowing about how left California is, they really do hate the poor there.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa wrote:

For everyone crowing about how left California is, they really do hate the poor there.

Well, I've seen people say people are moving out of California to other states where some leftist propositions passed like abortion rights or minimum wage, notable in some red states.

Mistress Fortune wrote:

I posted this as a comment on an image so I might as well post this here too:

Do absolutely correct me if I'm wrong but won't Trumps proposed tariffs on any goods from outside the US (60% on stuff from China and 20% from anywhere else outside the US) also have an affect on the video gaming and PC markets too? Two of the major console makers, Sony and Nintendo, are Japanese companies whose consoles are mass produced in China, and a lot of other parts game consoles and PC rely on are also made in China. I also wonder if any video games made in countries that aren't the US will get affected too, like get ready to see Japanese or Chinese made video games go even beyond the $70 price we're already complaining about (like imagine Black Myth Wukong suddenly ends up costing over $100 because it's made in China). That legit might act as some wake up call amongst the "weebs who watch too much TheQuartering and YellowFlash2" crowd, that the Asian video games they love the most because they romanticize countries like Japan as these "places free from DEI" are about to cost more because they didn't think voting for Trump would negatively affect them.

Let them hurt themselves from their stupidity. The blue economies and any red economies turned against Trump need to band together to be able to coordinate funding so we can weather this stupid storm.

FDA.Gov
The Food and Drug Administration is proposing an end to the use of oral Phenylephrine as a decongestant, citing a lack of evidence that it is effective for this use. Notable drugs include multiple "Cold/Flu versions" of NyQuil, Sudafed, Benadryl and Mucinex

It isn't set in stone yet, and given in oncoming administration's attitude toward the FDA, no telling if this will actually come to pass.

Jill wrote:

FDA.Gov
The Food and Drug Administration is proposing an end to the use of oral Phenylephrine as a decongestant, citing a lack of evidence that it is effective for this use. Notable drugs include multiple "Cold/Flu versions" of NyQuil, Sudafed, Benadryl and Mucinex

It isn't set in stone yet, and given in oncoming administration's attitude toward the FDA, no telling if this will actually come to pass.

That's an underrated aspect of why the coming admin is gonna suck. Say what you will about bidens higher up actions, but he actually appointed people to the FDA and Fcc that actually did their jobs. could you imagine anyone trump appoints attempting to stop companies forming monopolies via mergers or regulating food or drugs to protect the populace?

Spaghetto wrote:

Since it's the one that's passed, I think it'll be interesting to look into Prop 36.

It seems to mostly be a walking-back of 2014's Proposition 47, which wasn't entirely to California's benefit. Honestly, I'm a bit surprised that it took a decade for a proposition like this to pass.

I'm actually quite concerned about the court-mandated therapy laws there, because the forced treatment programs are really, really not good.

If Cali wants to set up drug treatment programs they need to have the infrastructure for it to support users who can and want to safely quit using. Forced rehab does very little, and is quite dangerous-especially under the current terrible infrastructure.

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa wrote:

I'm actually quite concerned about the court-mandated therapy laws there, because the forced treatment programs are really, really not good.

If Cali wants to set up drug treatment programs they need to have the infrastructure for it to support users who can and want to safely quit using. Forced rehab does very little, and is quite dangerous-especially under the current terrible infrastructure.

Oh shut up

pinkiespy - goat spy wrote:

huh. Active votes got stealth purged and people were having trouble getting provisionals even when they were legally allowed to vote. Looks like if it were close, the Rs were planning to steal it.

Every accusation a confession from them

Highlighting from Bobasta's comment. on legislation that may come up for a vote in the US House this week.

From The Intercept

The Stop Terror-Financing and Tax Penalties on American Hostages Act (H.R. 9495) would grant the Secretary of the Treasury Department unilateral authority to revoke the tax-exempt status of any nonprofit deemed to be a “terrorist supporting organization".

Under the bill, the Treasury secretary would issue notice to a group of intent to designate it as a “terrorist supporting organization.” Once notified, an organization would have the right to appeal within 90 days, after which it would be stripped of its 501©(3) status, named for the statute that confers tax exemptions on recognized nonprofit groups.”

"The law would not require officials to explain the reason for designating a group, nor does it require the Treasury Department to provide evidence.”

When asked in September, Deputy Chief of Staff for the Joint Committee on Taxation Robert Harvey about an administration that vowed to wreak vengeance on its opponents… … would there be any limitation on that president’s Treasury secretary on designating a ‘terrorist supporting organization’ and strip that organization of its nonprofit status?” responded with “I am not aware of any limitations in the bill.”

This isn't a power I trust any party with.


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Jill wrote:

Highlighting from Bobasta's comment. on legislation that may come up for a vote in the US House this week.

From The Intercept

The Stop Terror-Financing and Tax Penalties on American Hostages Act (H.R. 9495) would grant the Secretary of the Treasury Department unilateral authority to revoke the tax-exempt status of any nonprofit deemed to be a “terrorist supporting organization".

Under the bill, the Treasury secretary would issue notice to a group of intent to designate it as a “terrorist supporting organization.” Once notified, an organization would have the right to appeal within 90 days, after which it would be stripped of its 501©(3) status, named for the statute that confers tax exemptions on recognized nonprofit groups.”

"The law would not require officials to explain the reason for designating a group, nor does it require the Treasury Department to provide evidence.”

When asked in September, Deputy Chief of Staff for the Joint Committee on Taxation Robert Harvey about an administration that vowed to wreak vengeance on its opponents… … would there be any limitation on that president’s Treasury secretary on designating a ‘terrorist supporting organization’ and strip that organization of its nonprofit status?” responded with “I am not aware of any limitations in the bill.”

This isn't a power I trust any party with.


You know the worst part is seeing certain Democrats happy with this potentially passing since it would affect Pro-Palestinian groups that they blame for Harris' loss.

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I am starting to think the world could actually use MORE cultural segregation of sorts, globalization and interconnection to this mass scale was probably a mistake.

There is no sense of community nowadays its either everyone "trying to beat the other team" mentality or a "fuck you got mine" individualistic mentality and I think the problem is that the internet and so much rampant globalization has made the global culture into a single blob of culture with way too much diversity of viewpoints among people.

Countries used to be gigantic circlejerks due to culture…now nobody agrees on anything anymore and it hasnt been entirely a good thing

https://x.com/reddit_lies/status/1856047194404458971
we know these guys are idiots, but can any of you at least explain the problem so retards like this gimmick account can understand the issue.

The American elections have actually been a great bonding moment for me, weirdly enough. I've been spending more time with friends, family and people in general talking politics (in ways that don't make us hate each other).

Most of it is to complain, or to laugh or to worry (and then talk of other stuff), but I guess if life gives you lemons you can make lemonade.

I also disagree with the whole "cultural segregation" advocacy, if anything groups that are left to themselves will stagnate, be boring and find something amongst themselves to fight each other over anyway (even if they're all the same). Social media creates echo chambers with their algorithms, it's manipulative. It's why I don't believe the arguments of letting them to whatever they want.

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FatmanAss wrote:

https://x.com/reddit_lies/status/1856047194404458971
we know these guys are idiots, but can any of you at least explain the problem so retards like this gimmick account can understand the issue.

they think that globalization will stop because of tariffs and that slave labor outside of the US will disappear or something

No!! wrote:

yeah but stagnation and boredom can be better than everyone trying to destroy and kill each other like what we have nowadays.

Gilan just said that even if you were the same race and from the same culture, that they'd just invent something to fight each other over. I think you may have actually gotten worse from your break with the site rather than gotten better or chilled out.

Fignewton1 wrote:

Gilan just said that even if you were the same race and from the same culture, that they'd just invent something to fight each other over. I think you may have actually gotten worse from your break with the site rather than gotten better or chilled out.

No really bitch? Yeah no….I already know that you fucking dipshit its pretty fucking obvious, what you think I am unironically arguing for racial segregation you fucking cretin?

I am talking more about how previously the internet was for example multiple small communities with a sense of identity now its just 3 or 4 major websites that are all the same amorpheous blob with no culture and everyone fighting each other.

There used to be like a forum for one political affiliation and a forum for another political affiliation now it all inherently gets mixed into the wild west of said…youtube or twitter and its just constant unmoderated fighting.

Not that the previous circlejerk was necesarily good I just dont know if I want this amorphous blob of endless rage farming instead.

And citites all around the world have the same multinational companies, restaurants, media, political conflicts, etc and it all just looks the fucking same. Often every culture seems to get destroyed in favour of endless corporate, capitalistic slop that controls everything.

Look at this website, it used to have personality as primarily meme based website, now it is just twitter 2.0,

Twitter had personality too as the short message website, that is gone and its gimmick is being now just a dipshit, and twitter isnt even leftwing anymore! It didnt even preserve THAT!!

Youtube used to be impressive in how it let artists just express themselves anyway they wanted and old youtube was for good or for ill a wild west…..THAT is fucking gone! and extremely so! Youtube is UNBELIEVABLY shit nowadays in fact

Every website eventually slowly turns into the same bland shit cause it maximizes money output, its fucking depressing.You kind of see the same thing in real life its just WAY more pronounced in the internet.

pinkiespy - goat spy wrote:

they think that globalization will stop because of tariffs and that slave labor outside of the US will disappear or something

Good, but I wanna know why this tariff idea itself isn't good other than video games crap

FatmanAss wrote:

Good, but I wanna know why this tariff idea itself isn't good other than video games crap

https://x.com/Damienn1776/status/1856309211623301604
this is the closest answer I got

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