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Iambob wrote:

Please reassign your vote to someone other than me

I don't know, sounds to me like you're, oh, I don't know, trying to divert attention away from yourself… It's understandable though, anyone would do the same.

But either way, the tie has to be broken. My count including Niko's vote:

Wheatley: IIII
Iambob: IIII
BSOD: I
RJ: II
Seal Clubba: IIII

If you read the sentence fully, you would have noticed I said "me, Seal Clubba or Wheatley". I'm saying that the three of us are at a tie and it would be best not to disrupt that tie.

Edit: And DOES the tie have to be broken? I'm not entirely sure of that. If it does, then so be it. If not, then I think it would be best to keep the tie.

Either way, It's not necessary to do what everyone thinks is right. That never happens in voting, so same rule applies here. Like opspe said, it makes you sound more suspicious, Elaborating really doesn't make sense on the first turn. I'm sticking with my vote, only because your're acting like you have something to hide.

Hrm. Why do you want to keep the tie……………………AHA! You do have something to hide!

Alright then. I can't sway your decision. Just remember, the last person who went against the group decision was quickly found to be mafia. Acting against the interest of the crowd is not the best decision to make.

Edit: Aha?… Aha, I want to keep a constant. Aha, I want everyone to cooperate towards one unified goal. Aha, we have a plan and I'm hoping everyone sticks to it. I don't see what there is to "Aha!" about.

Hrm. You make a good point. But a four way tie isn't the best way to go……………Hrmm……………. Nah. I'll stick with my vote.

It's not a four way tie… It's a three way tie with 4 votes for each…

Edit: And mathematically, it IS the best way to go.

Iambob wrote:

And DOES the tie have to be broken?

I suppose not. But it doesn't really matter at this stage I don't think, what with this being the first round and all – once we narrow things down a bit, though, then ties will be important. Statistically speaking, there's too much uncorrelated variance in the sample set, er, I mean the votes, for the tie method to be entirely functional – people are more or less voting at random without any evidence.

But yeah, I guess that doesn't really matter anyways, since Niko's made up his mind.

Also, we're still missing BSOD's vote, as well as Lolrus. I overlooked that, so I guess the 3-way tie can be continued under the right circumstances.

………..2, 6, 8…………carry the one………………………divide by 21……………yeah, I guess your right. I'll withdraw my vote for now.

Fine but if I do die, remember my notes. They're really all the help I could provide with the time I had. And also remember that Nikolaki decided to act against the rest of the villagers. I'm not saying he's definitely guilty, determining that would require more study. But it is something to keep in mind when looking for the mafia.

Edit: I would also like to note that he's withdrawn that same vote. This puts him in a better light. Rather than a possible mafioso, he now comes off as a confused player.

Edit2: Just read the addition you put to your post. I guess the three way tie can still be made with 5 votes each. But how sure are we that the others will easily go with the plan? Nikolaki almost refused it entirely because of his suspicions.

Well, I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I'm going to bed now though, cause I'm tired as all hell.

I'm watching closely but I am still uncertain if my vote is necessary. The current 3 way tie looks good to me, I recommend nobody changes their votes and leaves the 3 way tie as it is.

I want to see how it plays out so in order to maintain the status quo I might just vote for nobody whatsoever or I will vote for an entirely different player

Currently I have my doubts about the current candidates. I suspected Bob at first but I have sort of changed my mind on that after looking at his posts

I'm not so sure about Wheatley and Seal Clubba for the same reason that I am not so sure about Bob. Looking at their posts, I'm just not feeling it.

Raptur? My gut tells me he is a bit more suspicious from the way he is so confidently accuses. I am also a bit suspicious of Algernon for accusing me for what was clearly a joke. That could have been an attempt by the mafia to sway the voting with simple reasoning.

I'm going to vote for Algernon for now as he is the only candidate that I actually have suspicion over and also because it wont disrupt the current tie anyway.

[edit]

Nah, can't be Algernon. If that was mafia tactic then he would have stuck with it. I'll change my vote to Rapturjesus as he was my second suspect. Damn first rounds! Always so hard.

For everyone else. I recommend leaving the vote as it is.

Although if Niko votes for RJ also, we would then have a 4 way tie. Then when lolrus comes in to vote, he would be the tie breaker…unless he is mafia

Speaking of which, where is Lolrus? I have not seen him at all. Either he forgot about this thread or he is trying to keep a low profile….hmmm

Huh, there's still daylight? Let's get this over with! If I'm going to die, I rather it be quick. And painless. Very painless.

Bloody waste of a good turn though. I just hope that complicated tl;dr system ends up working out for us in the end, or else I'm going to be very angry. And dead. I'll be…

Oh my god. I'll be dead.

{starts packing frantically}

I change my vote to Seal.

Ashbot, we were supposed to keep a tie. Changing your vote at this point would mess up the system. Could you please shift your vote back to where it was before?

Ashbot we are supposed to keep a tie.

But I do have to say, what if Ashbot is right? Clubba didn't make me suspicious at first, but now that Ashbot has mentioned it, I took another look at Seals posting pattern and I am starting to see what people are talking about.

He sounds like a regular new player on the surface. But what if that's all part of the disguise?

Alright we finally start today!

This followed by an image of Mr.Burns is not suspicious at all [/sarcasm]. Easily a mistake a new mafia member would made

Wait what if somehow we were to figure out who the mafia was, Could we do anything about that?

He had to have known the answer this. What happens when you find a mafia is plainly obvious in this game. Misleading people into thinking you are less aware than you really are is a clever way to draw away suspicion. Bob, you also explained yourself how that sounded suspicious

To be honest guy’s i think that a possible mafia member is Cpt Douglass J falcon is a mage because he said in one of his earlier post’s that he’s voting for someone because they voted for him

Villagers make retaliatory votes all the time, it means little. However Clubba tried to use this for an accusation anyway. If he is mafia then he could have done this to divert attention away from himself

It doesn't help that he then votes for a player whom I do not really find that suspect

I'm not saying that he definitely is mafia, there is still no knowing for sure. Nor am I saying we should all vote for him right now. I'm only pointing out that there is definite rationale for suspecting him, perhaps more than there is rationale to suspect anyone else at this time.

Keeping the tie is still ideal so I'm sticking with my vote for now, but the next time we vote…

I would vote for Iambob, I've read some of his comments, it's seems a little suspicious to me.

Whoa Leox! You kinda just came in out of nowhere.

Are you actually playing? You jumped in at the last minute and Itiz just said "Your OK" but he didn't add your name to the list of players so I was not sure if you got into the game or not. To be honest I completely forgot about you. Anyway…

Votes should look like this

Wheatley: III
Iambob: IIII
BSOD: I
RJ: III
Seal Clubba: IIIII

So Leox, if you really are playing, go ahead and vote for Bob just in case Ashbot keeps his vote. That way we will maintain our tie. Otherwise we should try and go back to our previous 3 way tie

Personally I don't think that Bob is mafia at this time. I have decided to trust him…for now.

Then again I don't know any more than you do.

LOL sorry, I actually have been a bit off this time I have been sick and actually out of the forums (but I came to work today so I came back xD) also I am not sure neither this is the first time playing but as per the comments he have made he has catch on my attention.

well since ashbot switched from wheatley to seal i switch from seal to wheatley.
that should balance it out.

Wheatley: IIII
Iambob: IIII
BSOD: I
RJ: III
Seal Clubba: IIII

Still waiting for Niko and Lolrus

:< I'm so confused about this system.

Same here. I guess it kind of makes sense?

Hey, as long as the doctor isn't killed this round, I don't see what's the worst that could happen. Aside from me dying.

I guess I'll vote change to Wheatley.

Change vote to Iambob

random better change his fucking vote to seal…
or else.

Can someone please update the votes?

Bob: 5
Wheatley: 5
RJ: 2
Seal: 4

I actually noticed a mistake you made in the overall thing Verbose, but I'm not gonna quote that.

Like you said the voting was.

• X = 5
• Y = 5
• Z = 3
  • 2 mafia remaining.

So with a kill for mister Y, believing everyone voted, your reason makes sense.

But there's another outcome. What if 1 mafia voted X, and the other Z. Creating a 4-5-2 situation and still getting mister Y killed.

A tie of 3 votes between mister X and mister Z wouldn't matter. As mister Y would still be killed, leaving us unaware if a tie was actually present or not.

But it's true that the people who voted mister Y have their names cleared.

Change vote to Seal Clubba.

As for the people who don't understand the reason of purposely splitting up votes.

The outcome might give us some names to be cleared and some clearer suspects. As mafia votes don't count.

Updated:

Wheatley: 5
Iambob: 6
RJ: 1
Seal Clubba: 5

We're missing Witch King and Lolrus.

Did I miss a ghost or something.

Douglas' post said the following:

Bob: 5
Wheatley: 5
RJ: 2
Seal: 4

And now we suddenly have a vote extra?!?!

Here are the votes:

• Dougie (Wheatley)
• Ashbot (Seal)
• # 404 Troll User Not Found (Iambob)
• RandomMan (Seal)
• Riyku (Wheatley)
• WitchyBr0 (Douglas)
• IamBob (Seal)
• BSoD (RJ)
• Niko (Iambob)
• Brawler (Iambob)
• Lolrus
• opspe (Wheatley)
• Natsuru (Iambob)
• Gespenst (Iambob)
• Algernon (Seal)
• Madcat (Wheatley)
• RJ. (Iambob)
• Seal Clubba (Wheatley)
• Wheatley (Seal)

Tallies:

Wheatley: 5
Iambob: 6
RJ: 1
Douglas: 1
Seal Clubba: 5

Updated to include Witch King's vote, which I apparently missed.

Opspe… why did you refer to some people on that list as mafia? Are they your suspects? You should clarify to avoid any potential confusion.

Edit: I also have to wonder… Why did Natsuru change votes without a reason? Usually when Natsuru gives a vote, it has a reason. Even a pointless reason like "because robots". But this time there was no reason.

Yeah that was me editorializing. I had a lot more notes but I guess I missed those ones (I had it colour-coded in Word but that doesn't translate to Textile). Now removed.

Should I change to Wheatley to make it a tie, or do we take the guess that mafia voted for Bob?

witch king voted for me
just wnted to point that out.

Wow sorry guys I completly forgot I signed up for this thread.
I will vote for Bob.

Final Tallies:

Wheatley: 5
Iambob: 7
RJ: 1
Douglas: 1
Seal Clubba: 5

Anyone who wants to change their vote should do so now. Also, who wants to report to Verbose? I'll do it of no one else wants to.

Lolrus. We currently have a system in which we need to keep the votes close in order to determine potential mafia. I have to ask that you vote for either Seal or Wheatley to keep this system going.

Edit: You don't have to change your vote if you don't want to but do keep in mind that the villagers want to go with this plan. Going against their wishes wouldn't look too good for you.

WTF keep it even guys

Killing bob so I dont have to read a long txt everytime I play seems pretty good.

Dead villagers can still post.

But Lolrus and another Bob voter, please switch (or 2 other Bob voters, I don't care).

@opspe
Let people switch, the 48 hours aren't over yet.

RJ, reading my posts is your choice to make. You seem so dead set on getting me killed even though you can choose to ignore my long posts, that really doesn't make any sense.

i think raptur is a villager but sorta dangerous to the game.

Neither does your face.

Also, you've taken a far more serious approach to this game as opposed to others you were in. Usually you're just spouting nonsense. This response of yours is something I actually expect from you. Everything else you've said so far wasn't.

Alright.
 
Since nothing has occurred (in terms of dying,) I think it would be unfair to change the rules mid-game. ItizPWNED allowed the sheriff to talk about what he knew when he died, so people with other roles should be allowed to speak after dying as well. I shouldn't change that assumption that was had at the onset. My bad.

More importantly, I really do need the names of those with roles, mafia especially. If I don't have the names, then I can't count votes properly. The game would have to stop until ItizPWNED gets back online.

14 hours remaining in the 1st Day

Currently counting votes. I'm going to edit it in with the start of the 2nd night.

Note: It makes it much easier for PWNED and I to count votes if you put who you're voting for in bold. Otherwise, it gets a little hard to see when you're just suspicious of someone or if you're actually submitting a vote.

Fortunately, my count matched up with opspe's, so I am confident in this round's results.

Iambob was a little more upset than he had let on during the questioning and alleging from the day, but he was even more tired than that. He could only hope that some force…either the villagers' actual votes or the doctor could save him. He went to bed a while after he got back to his place, and fell asleep only after convincing himself that the entire village was not coming for him that night. And that if they did come early that morning, that there was nothing he could do to stop them anyway.

He was wrong in one way and right in another. Only a couple of villagers came by his house early in the morning and snuck to his room while he was sleeping. But being fast asleep, he was not able to prevent one villager from grabbing him and holding him down, nor prevent the other villager from quickly injecting him with a lethal toxin. Still groggy and already beginning to feel the effects of the poison, he could only shake off the two villagers and stumble to his bedroom door as the two designated villagers ran from the room. Iambob knew he was going to die unless the doctor had made plans to make a in-house visit and fast. And so he waited for several minutes at the entrance of his room for Death or the Doctor…whomever came to his door first.

Strangely enough, neither won that race. Iambob's last conscious moment was spent looking at five masked men observing their small victory. Death was a close second. The doctor did not come to save Gus' life.

42 Hours Remain in the 2nd Night.

It is the Mafia and Doctor's turn.

Well, actually the doctor doesn't save people in the villager's vote/day phase anyway, does he? I can't edit it now, it took me about 45 minutes to confirm the vote, and another 30 to type up a decent death.

I'M NEW AT THIS SUE ME. It keeps the game going at least.
 
 
But yeah. Doctor and Mafia, let me know what's up. Sean will hear from me in a bit.