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Alright, I guess I'll share my thoughts to you memelords.

Unbiased: Trump started out pretty strong. Focus on big picture goals and policies has always been his strong suit, so not too surprising. Hillary's prep really showed, she was definitely composed and prepared for pretty much everything. Trump really started to lose momentum in the second half, going on long, off topic stints in response to Hill's baiting. Hillary managed to mention far more specific policy details than Trump. Overall, I don't see this debate changing the minds of entrenched supporters, but it may sway some that are undecided or lukewarm about one candidate or the other.

Biased: I think Hillary won. Trump was on the defensive most of the debate, and gave really poor/weasel answers a few times when he wasn't swerving off on an off-topic tirade. Hill's policy details look really good next to Trump's lack of specifics, and Hillary did a really good job calling Trump out on issues with his own policies. Also, the fact-checking I've looked at call bullshit on a lot of Trump's claims. Looking forward to the rest of the debates. Will likely feel good about voting blue this election.

CNN poll of debate viewers says 62% said Clinton won and 27% said Trump won.

Early polls from some less notoriously polarized sites (~1 hour post debate):

Times

Fortune

MSN

My opinion, hammered as I am at the moment (thanks "Russia"), is that the debate really didn't change anything. Both candidates did nothing to drastically change public perceptions of who they are.

I expect polls to show a Clinton bounce, but I think that is more reflective of agendas rather than reality.

More or less I feel like he lost his footing when it came to the racially charged crap and it all kinda went downhill from there.

He started off hitting hard with those "30 years" comments and I don't think she even addressed what happened to Bernie. He brought up what a disaster NAFTA was and all she could say about it was "yeah well that's just ur opinion bruh".

Why are people convinced he got completely BTFO exactly? Did I miss something?

I agree; at first I thought "Hey he ain't so bad, I disagree with nearly everything he says but he seems respectful, civil, like a guy I could vote for." But afterwards he reminded me that he was indeed Donald Trump.

That is what it comes down to, and why I don't think the debate is going to shift much opinion. Trump was who he is, and Clinton was who she is. Both are pretty polarizing personalities, and neither did much to change those perceptions.

Trump just missed a lot of opportunities where he could hit Clinton hard. This implies poor debate skills (compared to Clinton who has past experience).

It's not that he got BTFO, it's simply that he underperformed (outside some strong moments).

Some say the moderator can be to blame as well, so I'm curious to see how the next round will go.

Okay that makes sense. It's weird though, it's like he got hurt in the end for trying to be nicer like people wanted.

And yeah, I'll definitely be watching the next one between them as well.

DM has a poll round up. A clear majority show Trump winning though not often by more than 10pts. Surprisingly, Slate and Variety show Trump wins in polls with ~40k votes total. Polls with Hillary ahead came from NBC, CNN, and Star Tribune (MN's largest newspaper). A lot of ties. At the very least, the media narrative that Hillary is miles ahead and only white supremacists support Trump is exterminated.

Copying from the comments section:

#trumpwon is trending on twitter. They use this one image for proof:

(spoiler tags so image doesn't occupy too much space)

But digging a bit further into the tag:

Source of the image, on 4chan archive ; and on archive.is, i mean archive.li

Note, that those are all online polls, open to everybody, with no need to fill with info about location or age (ie. non-US citizens and underage people allowed)

A candidate popular with millennials winning all the online polls? wow, we never seen that before. Good thing millennials make up the largest % of voters or you could say those polls are completely worthless.

Some of Hillary's criticisms of Trump seemed to be in preparation for this ad she released interviewing the woman he referred to as "Miss Houskeeping" and backing up the claims that he didn't pay people who worked for him when he was dissatisfied with them.

{ backing up the claims that he didn’t pay people who worked for him when he was dissatisfied with them. }

um are you/she trying to imply that you SHOULD pay people who do work for you that you're not satisfied with?? Literally what the BBB is for. That's the golden rule of contracting, don't pay in advance and don't pay for work that isn't complete/to your standard.

{ But digging a bit further into the tag: }

CNBC's poll seemed to be the only media poll that allowed double voting via incognito browsers. Posting a poll link to a large forum and everybody using their one vote for their candidate isn't rigging a poll, that's just plain voting by anybody's definition. It's the same thing as the MSM themselves posting the link on Twitter and urging everybody to vote on their website. As long as it was just one vote, it doesn't matter how they were informed of the poll's existence.

>um are you/she trying to imply that you SHOULD pay people who do work for you that you’re not satisfied with??

Yes. If you go to a restaurant and eat an entire hamburger, you can't then ask for your money back. In the case of the video, if she worked on ads, and the ads were actually used, she deserves money. Assuming all she said was true.

>As long as it was just one vote, it doesn’t matter how they were informed of the poll’s existence.

if the poll is heavily bias towards one candidate, like when 90% of the people voting in it are Trump supporters, then the poll isn't very representative of what the general public thought.

Online polls are never representative of what the general public thinks. 90% of CNNs followers are liberals, so when they tweet to their followers who are all Hillary supporters to go to their website and vote… difference here being that Slate/Drudge/etc aren't mainstream media sources who then put their poll on air as factual evidence.

& the key word there is "used". If they weren't used she's not entitled to payment. & yes btw restaurants with excellent customer service not only will comp the meal you didn't like but will offer to replace it without even being asked. They're the ones who insist they make you something better so you'll come back, because return customers are more valuable than the $20 plate of food you had to write off.

You dont eat the whole burger before saying you want a new dish.

You take a few bites, and if you have an issue, you return it.

>return customers are more valuable than the $20 plate of food you had to write off.

how are you making money on a customer who eats an entire meal, and then refunds it?

NYT leaked a partial tax return of Trump's from 1995, and they may have violated federal law doing so.

It's also apparently an October Surprise bombshell that'll sink Trump's campaign.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't really see how. His less than great business practices have been a target since the primaries, so losing nearly a billion dollars won't shock anyone. And it's perfectly legal (and highly recommended by accountants the world over) to write-off losses. If anything, I think it'll only endear him to his supporters--he was able to navigate the obstructive and bureaucratic system and walk away with 900 million dollars less in taxes.

Maybe the undecided will mind, but I think it's just a tempest in a teapot.

Broke the law and exposed themselves to be doing exactly what they tried to pin on Trump LMFAO.

Trump's $9M loss meant he had no tax liability that year, ie you're not cheating the system to avoid taxes if you don't have a tax liability in the first place. This is not a billionaire exclusive thing, I've posted multiple times in various threads about how "45% of America pays no federal taxes". Our tax code allows you to count losses against liability in this way to help people bounce back from a rough year of bad sales/whatever.

Forbes, however, notes that in 2014 the NYT took a profit of almost $30M but instead of paying taxes they got federal refunds worth millions, meaning they got a bonus funded by the taxpayers instead of paying their fair share of taxes.

{ For tax year 2014, The New York Times paid no taxes and got an income tax refund of $3.5 million even though they had a pre-tax profit of $29.9 million in 2014. In other words, their post-tax profit was higher than their pre-tax profit. The explanation in their 2014 annual report is, “The effective tax rate for 2014 was favorably affected by approximately $21.1 million for the reversal of reserves for uncertain tax positions due to the lapse of applicable statutes of limitations.” If you don’t think it took fancy accountants and tax lawyers to make that happen, read the statement again. }

Unlike Trump, the NYT's tax records are public.

I just came up with this image:

Wikileaks is holding a press conference later today that "could prove devastating" to Clinton. Methinks there's some hyperbole to that and it'll be all hype and no shadenfreude, but who knows.

I also get the distinct impression that by the end of month "October surprise" will become the latest meaningless media phrase. It's already been used used twice--for Hurricane Matthew and the Trump taxes--and we're not even a week into the month yet. Candidate Nixon negotiating with the South Vietnamese and Johnson wiretapping him in response this stuff ain't.

VP debate starts in 40 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVXqNcW_-HA

Hahaha RNC prematurely declares Mike Pence debate winner two hours before start time

Kaine ignores the first question and instead goes for a generic opening address. Pence follows suit.

My first impression of Kaine isn't good.

This moderator is about to scream at these two.

I'm no fan of Pence, but he certainly feels like he is much better at debating than Kaine. The frequent interruptions by Kaine are very frustrating. You would have thought he would have learned from Trump's performance in the last debate.

I totally agree. I hate Pence for what he's done to my state but he did conduct himself much better in his debate.

I hate Pence's views. But he won.

Kaine's interrupting, his false statements, his stupid statements about Trump having the nuclear football – he just didn't do well, at all.

Also, I'm slightly disappointed with the debate. I was hoping for a more """standard""" set of talking points – like 2008/2012 talking points, culture war stuff, that – but instead we nearly exclusively got to listen to them work over the same talking points I've been hearing for what, a year and a half now? I'd just like a little diversity, and given this is basically my first serious venture into politics, this has been something like 95% of all the politics I've heard.

It gets tiring.

Here lies Gary Johnson's hopes and dreams.

Can you believe what disgusting thing Trump did this time that completely disqualifies him? He mispronounced 'Nevada.' Isn't that horrible, Lisa?

BTW, I also pronounce it Neh-Vah-da, and not Neh-VAA-da.

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Trump Acting like Frat Boy in 2005 Audio…

most likely released because of foreknowledge that WikiLeaks would be dropping 2000+ damaging emails from Clinton Campaign Chair John Podesta later this evening:

[All formatting and capitalization is from the documents, and not my own]

Excerpts from Paid Speechs to Wall Street:

"CLINTON ADMITS SHE IS OUT OF TOUCH *Hillary Clinton: “I'm Kind Of Far Removed” From The Struggles Of The Middle Class “Because The Life I've Lived And The Economic, You Know, Fortunes That My Husband And I Now Enjoy.”"

"CLINTON SAYS YOU NEED TO HAVE A PRIVATE AND PUBLIC POSITION ON POLICY Clinton: “But If Everybody's Watching, You Know, All Of The Back Room Discussions And The Deals, You Know, Then People Get A Little Nervous, To Say The Least. So, You Need Both A Public And A Private Position.”"

"CLINTON TALKS ABOUT HOLDING WALL STREET ACCOUNTABLE ONLY FOR POLITICAL REASONS Clinton Said That The Blame Placed On The United States Banking System For The Crisis “Could Have Been Avoided In Terms Of Both Misunderstanding And Really Politicizing What Happened.”"

CLINTON SUGGESTS WALL STREET INSIDERS ARE WHAT IS NEEDED TO FIX WALL STREET *Clinton Said Financial Reform “Really Has To Come From The Industry Itself.” *“Remember what Teddy Roosevelt did. Yes, he took on what he saw as the excesses in the economy, but he also stood against the excesses in politics. He didn't want to unleash a lot of nationalist, populistic reaction."

"CLINTON ADMITS NEEDING WALL STREET FUNDING *Clinton Said That Because Candidates Needed Money From Wall Street To Run For Office, People In New York Needed To Ask Tough Questions About The Economy Before Handing Over Campaign Contributions. *“Secondly, running for office in our country takes a lot of money, and candidates have to go out and raise it. New York is probably the leading site for contributions for fundraising for candidates on both sides of the aisle, and it's also our economic center. And there are a lot of people here who should ask some tough questions before handing over campaign contributions to people who were really playing chicken with our whole economy.”"

"CLINTON TOUTS HER RELATIONSHIP TO WALL STREET AS A SENATOR *Clinton: As Senator, “I Represented And Worked With” So Many On Wall Street And “Did All I Could To Make Sure They Continued To Prosper” But Still Called For Closing Carried Interest Loophole. *In remarks at Robbins, Gellar, Rudman & Dowd in San Diego, Hillary Clinton said, “When I was a Senator from New York, I represented and worked with so many talented principled people who made their living in finance. But even thought I represented them and did all I could to make sure they continued to prosper, I called for closing the carried interest loophole and addressing skyrocketing CEO pay."

"CLINTON IS AWARE OF SECURITY CONCERNS AROUND BLACKBERRIES Clinton: “At The State Department We Were Attacked Every Hour, More Than Once An Hour By Incoming Efforts To Penetrate Everything We Had. And That Was True Across The U.S. Government.”"

"CLINTON REMARKS ARE PRO KEYSTONE AND PRO TRADE *Clinton: “So I Think That Keystone Is A Contentious Issue, And Of Course It Is Important On Both Sides Of The Border For Different And Sometimes Opposing Reasons…” *“So I think that Keystone is a contentious issue, and of course it is important on both sides of the border for different and sometimes opposing reasons, but that is not our relationship."

"*Hillary Clinton Said Her Dream Is A Hemispheric Common Market, With Open Trade And Open Markets. *“My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders, some time in the future with energy that is as green and sustainable as we can get it, powering growth and opportunity for every person in the hemisphere.”"

"CLINTON IS MORE FAVORABLE TO CANADIAN HEALTH CARE AND SINGLE PAYER *Clinton Said Single-Payer Health Care Systems “Can Get Costs Down,” And “Is As Good Or Better On Primary Care,” But “They Do Impose Things Like Waiting Times.”"

More to come…

So it looks like everyone's baggage has been leaked today…..

New Audio showed that Trump spoke about groping and harassing married women just after he married Melania(Which is pretty much rape)

And wikileaks published the first batch of 10 leaks on the Clinton Campaign, including her speech transcripts:

Clinton secret paid speech to bank: "My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders," https://t.co/5G8cSAQxJx pic.twitter.com/Nm1U9Ycq9F

— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) October 7, 2016

edit: The colonel beat me to it. :/
This 2nd Debate is going to be fun.

Was thinking about voting trump, but just can't anyone. I'll be voting none of the above.

On our local news site a lot of people who were there said he was obviously making a joke… but tbh people here take that pretty seriously. You can't walk through a parking lot without seeing a IT'S NE-VA-DA NOT NE-VAH-DUH bumper sticker. I've seen a gas station cashier actually make a big deal of it to someone I assume was on a road trip (WELCOME TO FRIENDLY RENO WHERE WE JUDGE THE SHIT OUT OF YOU!) Like you'd think you were in a horror b-movie where you stop for gas but all the people in the tiny town in the middle of the desert have a strange quirk where they go apeshit and murder you if you say Ne_vah_da. I've never asked anybody to explain!

@ fratboy Trump, somebody posted on fb they couldn't believe a presidential nominee was talking about sexually assaulting women blah blah blah, I said this: { I'm crying. "A presidential nominee TALKING about sexually assaulting women…" bruh ya other nominee is married to a guy who DID sexually assault women, and then she helped him cover it up and portrayed the victims who had enough courage to speak up against the President of the United States as gold digging bimbos! I don't like either of them but which one am I supposed to be more upset by?! }

'cause honestly tho. Leonardo DiCaprio grabs a new group of 18 year old models by the pussy every week on his yacht and the media lauds him for it, but I'm supposed to be mad now about some raunchy comments from the 90s?

So…do we think the public will care more about Trump being a misogynist in 2005 or Hillary being a liar and crook a few years ago?

Trump statement regarding the 2005 audio:

Edit: Source video is not linking properly.

I’m crying. “A presidential nominee TALKING about sexually assaulting women…

He's not just talking about it in a hypothetical sense though. He's bragging about doing it and getting away with it cause he's a star.

US government officially accuses Russia of attempting to influence the elections.

{ He’s bragging about doing it and getting away with it cause he’s a star. }

ok so does literally every rap song on the top 40 station and some of those are even more blatantly less consensual. & our media worships it. I have always taken comments like this out of the elite types with absolutely no weight whatsoever. Talk to these people for three seconds and it's clear they genuinely have no perception of reality, they think they can do whatever they want because men and women both throw themselves at their feet and tell them so. Not just Hollywood stars, significantly rich people in general, I have first hand stories that would make you ill just because of how they talk about "regular" people. This was a bigger life lesson for me than "the patriarchy only wants girls to wear pink and pretty dresses and be ballerinas" or whatever.

I'm also pretty sure we've all watched porn with worse titles than "grabbing pussies" so if we're going to start judging based on the technical degeneracy of our sex lives… :| don't start with me.

A ton of liberal politicians were also enraged about Russia today after Putin's admin in the UN said the UN should not be commenting on individual candidates in other countries' elections after they publicly criticized Trump and some right wing European politicians.

Has anyone in Europe heard backlash regarding the Kremlin's defense of those politicians? jw.

You can't call Trump saying something douchey an "October surprise". Ya know why? Because it's not a game-changer. To me it's still a question of electing someone who says inconsiderate things v.s someone who has done horrible things and has actually proven they shouldn't have a government job. Between this and their little Reddit-tier conspiracy theory I'm kinda embarrassed for Hillary's goons. If that's all they got they kinda just better illustrated the disparity between the two.

>ok so does literally every rap song on the top 40 station and some of those are even more blatantly less consensual.

[Citation Needed]

Of course Trump has different standards. He's going to be a leader of the free world, and potential role model for children, both boys and girls. Rap Artists aren't aiming for that same prestige and not all rap is filled with disrespect towards women. In addition, a man at 60 wouldn't brag about "forcing himself" on another woman. I know at least My grandfather wouldn't. Plus might I add that during this time he said all this he just married Melania? Where is her statement in all of this by the way? Not only is he a gross human, but he's riddled with infidelity too. And don't give me the Bill Clinton excuse because he isn't president anymore, and isn't running for president. Trump isn't a perfect human being as stated in his statement(which I wholeheartedly agree with), but he lies again with this tweet. You are right about people being ill to at some stories, but "regular" people don't talk liberally about stories that involve groping and harassing women. For if they did, they'd either be in jail or be sued.

>I’m also pretty sure we’ve all watched porn with worse titles than “grabbing pussies” so if we’re going to start judging based on the technical degeneracy of our sex lives… :| don’t start with me.

Viewing porn =/= groping and kissing married women without consent. Special Pleading fallacy for 200$

>You can’t call Trump saying something douchey an “October surprise”. Ya know why? Because it’s not a game-changer.
You tell me. Republicans are denouncing Trump and even some are disavowing him.Until we see Wikileaks gets something that will scare democratic leaders whitless, I don't see the leaks hurting her, similar to the DNC emails.

Unrelarted now but int interesting find: Wikileaks now wants whistleblowers to dig dirt up on trump.

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Bill Clinton isn't president but when he did those things Hillary, the so called women's candidate, ruined those women's lives.
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Why is everyone so distracted over this video? What's there to discuss? Surely the recent leaks are much more important?

Rap artists aren't running for president. I'm not sure how "other people do it, so its ok" is even an argument. Also, idk how you compare this to porn video titles since people are consenting to that.

I don't want to be label as the type of person who says stuff like that. Its not "just something all guys talk about" or whatever.

{ Rap artists aren’t running for president. }

Yet they have so much more influence on the children than the President. Your ten year old can hear I HAD TO RAPE THIS BITCH CUZ THE HOE WAS STACKED, I FUCKED HER FROM THE BACK WITH MY GUN TO HER BACK on the radio, or maybe you like Eminem better – YOU MIGHTA HEARD OF ME BEFORE SEE WHORE YOU'RE THE KINDA GIRL THAT I'D ASSAULT AND RAPE AND THEN FIGURE WHY NOT TRY TO MAKE YOUR PUSSY WIDER. Should we go on? THAT KID OWED ME DOUGH, I DIDN'T TAKE HIS LIFE, INSTEAD I TIED HIM UP AND MADE HIM WATCH ME RAPE HIS WIFE.

Please tell me again why I, as a woman, should be more offended by what Donald Trump said ten years ago and didn't act on than by what rappers are being paid millions to spew to teens who go on to join gangs and rape and murder because that's what super cool rap thugs do? Or explain why I as a woman should be more offended by what Donald Trump said and didn't act on than what Bill Clinton said/did and on what Hillary Clinton then physically and emotionally did to her husband's victims, that I would call for Donald Trump to drop out while praising Hillary as the only sane one left.

& what? People consent to porn video titles? Did anybody not consent to Trump's comments? Did he do anything to a woman against her consent? Are you going to sue him for raping your ears? If you did, I bet Melania wouldn't go in front of the media and use her social status peg you as a gold digging bimbo~

{ He’s going to be a leader of the free world, and potential role model for children, both boys and girls. Rap Artists aren’t aiming for that same prestige and not all rap is filled with disrespect towards women. }

HAHAHA YEAH see above bruh. A twelve year old can't even tell me who Joe Biden is, but they sure as fuck can recite all sorts of nasty lyrics to me. Who has more influence on the children?

{ viewing porn =/= groping and kissing married women without consent }

Unless you're going to the adult video store to rent or purchase professionally produced porn videos, you're watching girls in the sex trade who aren't getting paid, don't have contracts, and aren't treated as human beings, but please tell me more about how Donald Trump's words definitely equate to kissing and groping married women without consent, while simultaneously disregarding the fact that Bill Clinton DID kiss and grope women who did not want it and Hillary enabled him to continue his sexual assaults while disenfranchising his victims.

{ For if they did, they’d either be in jail or be sued. }

wtf we have a freedom of speech amendment bruh, you don't go to jail for fratboy comments. You can rap about how you raped a bitch and killed her and left her body in a ditch in this exact location yesterday and you will not be arrested (unless someone goes and finds a body but then you're no longer being convicted for words). I can say I'm a sexy bitch who goes to bars and grabs all the thick thighed desperate dick in the place because I know they want me, literally what are you going to do about it?

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Republicans denouncing Trump isn't news, though. They've literally been doing that since the beginning of the thing and he got this far regardless.

I don't elect a rappers to represent me, so why would I care what they say? I do elect politicians to represent me, so what they say should actually represent what I think. I'm not sure why that is so hard to follow.

You elect members of the House of Representatives to represent you, you elect the President to lead the country. If you want to feel personally offended by his words, you do you, but I've already explained to you why I don't.

Two of Billary's bimbos have since commented.

Juanita Broaddrick tweet – actions speak louder than words, DT said bad things, HRC threatened me after BC raped me. Also notes Trump apologized for the vid, neither Bill or Hillary have ever apologized to her.

Gennifer Flowers – Bill Clinton told me Hillary eats more pussy than he does (lol tho)

I don't really think this will be a game changer (although the debate tomorrow might change that). When you have chronic foot in mouth disease, all the gaffes and blunders blur together. It's like like the boy who cries wolf, except it's the media doing it. When you constantly declare the most recent thing Trump said as being horrible and disqualifying, people just kind of shrug. They should have really saved up the outrage for when it really mattered, so it could have maximum effect.

poochyena said:

I do elect politicians to represent me, so what they say should actually represent what I think.

You should be careful with this line of thinking. Vote for people who do what you believe in. Politicians will say whatever they think will appeal to voters the most, whether it's their base or fringe elements, but what they actually do tells you what they truly represent.

>Bill Clinton isn’t president but when he did those things Hillary, the so called women’s candidate, ruined those women’s lives.

Funny how you say that because Trump has accusers from as early as this year. It was the main reasons when his first wife, Ivana, divorced him for it as well. Now your seeing Ivanka or Trump's money cover it up like nothing happened. What's the biggest hypocrisy in all of the trumpsters damage control is that you can peg Bill Clinton for doing somethings that were way older than the stuff trump said in the video, but trump can do it because of the wall and he'll make america great, right?Here is a detailed article on his accusers.

or maybe you like Eminem better – YOU MIGHTA HEARD OF ME BEFORE SEE WHORE YOU’RE THE KINDA GIRL THAT I’D ASSAULT AND RAPE AND THEN FIGURE WHY NOT TRY TO MAKE YOUR PUSSY WIDER. Should we go on? THAT KID OWED ME DOUGH, I DIDN’T TAKE HIS LIFE, INSTEAD I TIED HIM UP AND MADE HIM WATCH ME RAPE HIS WIFE.

Care for a more recent track, Lisa? Since we all are talking recency with the trump video, care to find a that's a bit more current? In addition, you don't hear that on the radio because it's censored or not even played at all. Plus I here more kids rap PANDA PANDA PANDA and other trendy songs on vine rather than things about rape and other crime.

>Please tell me again why I, as a woman, should be more offended by what Donald Trump said ten years ago and didn’t act on than by what rappers are being paid millions to spew to teens who go on to join gangs and rape and murder because that’s what super cool rap thugs do?

Well, you personally as a woman don't feel offended, but others will because the potential commander in chief has been caught saying demeaning, barbaric things about a women's figure and other rude things he's pulled just days ago with Alicia Machado. Quit calling that fratboy talk, Trump is a grown man who means what he says, that's what at least why trump has supporters. Women will be offended especially in states like North Carolina and Florida, with a majority women electorate who's already getting comfy for Clinton, as one pollster stated. I gonna give another [Citation Needed] on the other part on that comment.

>Unless you’re going to the adult video store to rent or purchase professionally produced porn videos, you’re watching girls in the sex trade who aren’t getting paid, don’t have contracts, and aren’t treated as human beings, but please tell me more about how Donald Trump’s words definitely equate to kissing and groping married women without consent, while simultaneously disregarding the fact that Bill Clinton DID kiss and grope women who did not want it and Hillary enabled him to continue his sexual assaults while disenfranchising his victims.

A quick google search makes your statement false. The videos on, say pornhub for example, have consenting men and women doing that. Plus, thanks to law enforcement and the FBI, sex traders wouldn't dare share and upload those videos so leniently online. Do you mean things on the deep web, which can't even be viewed so easily?

>wtf we have a freedom of speech amendment bruh, you don’t go to jail for fratboy comments. You can rap about how you raped a bitch and killed her and left her body in a ditch in this exact location yesterday and you will not be arrested (unless someone goes and finds a body but then you’re no longer being convicted for words).

Saying and doing it(which trump has both done) are two completely different things. You might not get arrested, but you can likely get investigated for what you say if the person you talk to goes to the police. So you believe that admitting to trying to "force himself" on an non consenting married woman shouldn't be arrest worthy? k den.

I can say I’m a sexy bitch who goes to bars and grabs all the thick thighed desperate dick in the place because I know they want me, literally what are you going to do about it?

Strawman for $300. I'll try to answer this in the best way possible. Saying that those men were not consenting, plus with added baggage from others who accused you for doing the similar and worse things very recently, it's concerning enough for an arrest. Especially if your running for a position that affects an entire country.

>Republicans denouncing Trump isn’t news, though. They’ve literally been doing that since the beginning of the thing and he got this far regardless.

But asking for the nominee to step down is though. Especially if your a former nominee of the party, like John McCain and the your already down 14 points with independent voters, like the current Quinnipiac poll stated.