I'm most interested about turn out. No one likes either candidate, so I wonder if people are much less likely to go out and vote, or, if everyone's hatred of each candidate will make everyone more likely to vote.
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poochyena
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I'm not seeing much that confirms he had a gun.
No gun, false alarm.
lisalombs
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He didn't have a gun, I think he tried to jump on stage after Trump called him a Hillary shill.
The linked article now says someone in the crowd shouted "gun" during the incident, but security found no weapons.
Here's an update:
-Protester's name is Austyn Crites, 33.
-Apparently he held up a sign which read "Republicans Against Trump" [Note his Facebook Profile has a Clinton Logo in Profile Picture] [Edit: He removed the Hillary logo and replaced it with an American flag. Screenshot of profile prior to change]
-While being removed, an altercation broke out and someone shouted "gun."
-Security found no weapons. There are rumors he may have attempted to grab an officer's or agent's weapon.
-He has since been released, so the rumors about the gun grab are likely untrue.
Here's a video of the incident:
Perhaps this was a "bird-dogging" incident as described in the Project Veritas videos.
lisalombs
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Changed the profile pic, got called out on it, then made his profile private.
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Changed the profile pic, got called out on it, then made his profile private.
I don't use FB any more, so I can't verify it myself, but apparently the account was only a couple days old.
And his name came up in a Wikileaks document search.
This document is not part of the Podesta emails or the July emails release; it is much older and might be a list of people who purchased a Podesta book.
There appears to be much more to this story than a disruptive Republican protestor fed up with Trump.
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poochyena
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This is amazing guys. 2 days before the election, Clinton does it, she actually said something that made me want to vote for her. Might sound stupid, but it is literally the first thing she has said that made me actually care
"Hillary Clinton said she would consider ending Daylight Saving Time"
https://sports.yahoo.com/news/hillary-clinton-i-would-consider-ending-daylight-savings-time-201151539.html
lisalombs
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awks when you can't even get the woman in the video to agree with your narrative.
{ "I’ve seen what’s been going on in the news, but really what is there for me to say, other than that he respected me during that time in my life and I have a lot of respect for him because of that," she [Jennifer Hawkins] said, according to the Sydney Morning Herald. }
Did you know a black anti-Trumper shot a Trump supporter after their bar chat turned political? If a Trump supporter shot a Clinton supporter, what do you supposed the headlines would look like the next day?
{ In late July an unidentified 60-year-old man was shot in the leg at Winston’s Bar on Cleveland’s East Side. His assailant, Darnell Hall, 45, shot him after their discussion of presidential politics grew heated. The attacker “was enraged that anyone in the overwhelmingly African-American bar would support the GOP nominee,” the Plain Dealer reports. Hall later surrendered to police and was charged with felonious assault. }
Video clips emerge of Jesse Jackson praising Trump for his commitment to diversity in the late 90s. He introduced Trump at two different non-profit forums for the Rainbow PUSH Coalition, a group founded to bring more blacks and minorities into corporate/Wall Street positions.
{ "I now want to bring forth a friend. He is deceptive in that his social style is of such, one can miss his seriousness and his commitment to success, which is beyond argument. When we opened this Wall Street project and we talked about it, he gave us space at 40 Wall Street, which was to make a statement about our having a presence there. And beyond that, in terms of reaching out, and being inclusive, he’s done that too." }
ISIS called for an election day slaughter, take care if you're voting in a disarmed state.
Early Voting Data show Latino Surge in North Carolina, Ohio, and Georgia
Last National NBC/WSJ Poll shows Clinton up with a 4 point lead out of the MoE, up 5 H2H
Biggest line from the poll:
>"The NBC/WSJ poll also finds 52 percent of likely voters saying they would be comfortable and prepared to support Clinton as president if she wins on Tuesday night, versus 46 percent who say they wouldn't be comfortable.
This just confirms what people already thought would happen anyway, not sure it's enough to swing things majorly with only two days to go.
unusedusername wrote:
This announcement does not affect the investigations into the Clinton Foundation, which are separate and still ongoing.
unusedusername wrote:
This is required watching for the election, if you haven't already. Trigger Warning: Donald Trump Pantsu
How truthful is this infographic?
poochyena
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wonder how many polling stations will have lines with wait times of over 2 hours.
DNCLeaks #2 Released
-CNN requested, and received, questions from the DNC for the Republican primary debates:
Wolf Blitzer earned that glass of wine at the DNC, didn't he?
-Proof that Bob Creamer was in direct contact with the DNC and not working independently. Project Veritas videos are correct.
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It's confirmed that James Comey is a jew with a net worth of $11 million. He must not fail his Juden Overlords. I miss mein fuhrer.
This is my final electoral map.
Solid means greater than or equal to 95% chance of winning. Likely means greater than or equal to 85% to 95% chance of winning. Lean means greater than or equal to 66.7% to 85% chance of winning. Tossup means no candidate has a 2/3rds or greater chance of winning.
For Maine and Nebraska's non-winner-take-all votes, only 538's model was used.
Quick analysis of my map.
If Trump won every tossup electoral vote, he'd still not have 270. From there, his best shot is at taking Pennsylvania. Or, he could grab any combination Nevada, Colorado, and New Hampshire.
This is what I believe Trump's best shot at winning looks like.
I believe this is an optimistic Trump map, but still a very possible one.
Lastly, this is Clinton's "ideal" map. Obviously, you just need 270 to become president, but remember that it helps down ballot candidates, and a friendly Senate is definitely good for Clinton.
Also, here are what the hypothetical "landslides" would be. Basically, the only way this could happen would be a polling error the U.S. has never seen before.
Trump:
Hillary:
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Get Ready everyone. I'm sure I'm not exaggerating when I stay the fate of the world will be decided when the clock hits zero a lot of things decide the fate of the world but shut up and let me be dramatic dammit
Two addendum to my post about the electoral maps:
SC is not supposed to be red in the Clinton landslide scenario, and I used a combination of 538 and Predictwise to make it.
I also want to do something with the senate, but that's a bit more tricky and unpredictable.
Anyone happen to have tips for making a senate projection?
Here's my map for the Senate
Going risky with North Carolina and Missouri.
Imagine if Trump won though.
That'd be fucking wild.
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Here's my map for the Senate
Going risky with North Carolina and Missouri.
Looks like I goofed with Arizona Blue. confident with my other choices though.
It didn't appear 270towin had a way to share the map, so I went with screencapping and comparing. The default was Larry Sabato's map. It's from that I made some changes using Predictwise's House forecast.
Tomorrow, we get to learn how far off we were. Woot woot
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a lot of things decide the fate of the world but shut up and let me be dramatic dammit
I don't think we'll know who won exactly the next day after the election. I mean we might have an idea of who, but with all the threats of voter fraud by both sides and just by how heated this election is, I think it'll be a couple days or even weeks before everything's absolutely verified.
Alright, this is the last map and I'm done.
I really hope I at least get these somewhat right, or else I'm gonna look bad. :|
Anyways, Dems are at a disadvantage here. They have two states that they hold (WV and MO) that are not in their favor – MO is tossup and WV leaning Rep. They're already not holding a strong majority of states, so losing more isn't in their interest.
First votes have already been cast. We should know who wins the election, barring a recount, by 10 P.M. tomorrow.
~20 hours left.
Here's my guess for tomorrow, plus one faithless elector in Washington who will be voting for Sanders. Clinton wins the popular vote 54-46% with turnout lower than in 2012, but early voting being a record high.
The GOP easily holds the House and just barely keeps control of the Senate.
Results from Dixville Notch, ME have come in with Clinton winning.
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Imagine if Trump won though.
That’d be fucking wild.
If Trump wins, I'll spend the better part of tomorrow basking my shadenfreude in the Huffpost's Comment Section.
Tyranid Warrior #1024649049375 said:
I don’t think we’ll know who won exactly the next day after the election.
41 million people have already voted. I think there'll be a pretty good idea fairly quickly as to who won.
Here's my map. If Clinton really is winning with College educated White men then expect AZ, GA, and NC to go blue.
No chance of Clinton winning my state, do I vote my conscience and go for Stein or do I try to make sure Johnson gets to 5% and gets funding for the libertarian party?
This is my prediction based on polls and surveys done by multiple news source plus word on the street. Trump would either be at a tie with Hillary or he would win by just a small amount. Not a landslide as Scott Adams predicted.
lisalombs
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I'm still calling NV red, he's only 30k behind after early voting where Romney was down like 100k in 2012. & Hillary is down from Obama ofc. idk if everybody got brave this past week or what but I've seen a last minute influx of Trump bumper stickers. Saw two yesterday AND a yard sign (that looked like it had been beaten – like they tried to rip and crumple it up but it was plastic – and put back up out of spite) when I was transporting a client.
When we got to the VA we were waiting for meds at the pharmacy and this black guy starts going off sooo loud about how he's voting for Trump and this old white guy sitting next to me joins in and is encouraging him, and this other white guy sitting across from us all kept giving the black guy these incredulous looks and allllllllmost opening his mouth as if to say something but then stopping. I was like PLEASE DON'T DO THIS OLD MAN! Please don't start a political shitstorm in the middle of the VA while I'm here!!
I hate going there T_T
Here are the first official results of the election, held by the three precincts in NH who open at midnight because there are less than 100 residents. It means nothing. Or does it…
poochyena
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Voted. Took about 20 minutes, idk why more people don't vote ahead of time on a piece of paper and bring that paper with them so they can quickly go through the ballot, so much better than sitting there for 30 minutes reading each amendment (we had 15).
Oh, and I'm glad my last name doesn't start with A – E, for some reason, that line was longer than all the other lines combined.
Current Emotional State
So apparently some small town mayor in my state made some Facebook post where he said "remember voting times: Republicans vote on Tuesday, Democrats vote on Wednesday." He later took it down after people accused him of trying to purposely mislead voters, and his honest to goodness reply to this was "lol it was just a joke."
Mistress Fortune wrote:
So apparently some small town mayor in my state made some Facebook post where he said "remember voting times: Republicans vote on Tuesday, Democrats vote on Wednesday." He later took it down after people accused him of trying to purposely mislead voters, and his honest to goodness reply to this was "lol it was just a joke."
I honestly feel that a should be grounds for immediate removal from office, even if it only fools one new voter who doesn't know how it's done.
the leaked results !
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the leaked results !
Can't wait for his first presidential speech to end with "please clap"
poochyena
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1 more hour until polls start to close omg
MiloticExalted
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KYFPMM wrote:
the leaked results !
>Downplaying Tito "Dick" Dickman Baby's landslide victory
I'm calling it for Hillary based solely on how desperately Bill Mitchell is scrambling to make excuses on Twitter.
It's a real shame that Americans would choose four more years of Bush era Neo-Conservatism rather than take a risk on something different but that's pretty much America in a nutshell.
I'll be sitting over here enjoying Brexit (and the constant arguments over how it'll be done) watching the US tear itself apart.
lisalombs
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Some jackass in a Sysco truck blocked the ONLY entrance in or out of my polling place while I was voting. I joined the angry mob that formed waiting for the driver to finish his delivery. What a moron.
If anyone cares about our referendums: N federal background checks on private gun sales, Y legal weed, Y take apart NV Energy's electricity monopoly, N additional sales tax to fund schools (we already gave them money but they're still failing because they're still paying incompetent teachers), Y tax exempt oxygen-related medical devices.
LA Times reporting at least one dead, multiple injured, heavily armed active shooter in Azusa. ISIS is still actively encouraging lone wolf attacks on voters.