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Correspondence to…. the legislature who already gave Obama fast track authority and can literally do nothing now? :| Everybody paying attention to the issue wrote and called and protested when they had a chance to do something, idk what site published something that made the general internet population suddenly aware of the thing but you're all too late.

Talking to our representatives didn't work, protesting the negotiations where they're being hosted didn't work, now we…? Roll over, I guess.

Anarchy and violence seems to be working out for Black Lives Matters, maybe we give that a try?

Fast-track authority while in large part being unaware of what the agreement really entailed. Remember, the leak was the only reason for any of us knowing at all.

bruh WikiLeaks has been leaking TPP documents for years. It was 2013 when they leaked the first draft which included all of the IP/copyright/patents/ISP liabilities.

Admittedly, it's only this year that they've gotten much attention.

However, part of it can be put down to a deficit of net-savvy people in government, and possibly overall.

I had known about it since the first leaks, but what with it seeming like a ways off every time it got brought up, other Internet crapping bills in the interim, being one of the least talked about, and real life taking up much of my time, it still managed to sneak up on me. Should've had it on a calendar or something. When the Fast Track passed, I was so terrified we would fail. I must admit to my great shame that I had little hope left of preventing its passage, and I blame myself for letting my panic get in the way of doing more to help. Can't let it happen again.

@Colonial2.1:
I think it's a bit more complicated than that. A defecit of net-savvy people overall, yes. But each side in this conflict that has a stake knows what the Internet is, today, very well. The issue is, each side also has a vision of what the Internet will be, what they want it to be. Each side sees a very different value in the Internet's existence. We are like armies fighting over the destiny of the messiah-child, or like that movie CHAPPiE. Victory in the long game is dependent on us convincing the non-savvy people that ours is the more worthy and just cause, that "our" Internet is the most beneficial to all. But our enemies are the ones with all the means and power to change minds in the most subtle and effective ways.

Think about all the adverts and commercials you've seen for Internet service (there's probably a lot of overlap with phones, too) and answer me this question: What are the benefits of the Internet that are most often and heavily mentioned?

Benefits: Speed and cheapness (admittedly not seen that many)?

No no, not the benefits of one ISP over another, the benefits of the Internet itself. What do all these commercials assume you are going to be using the Internet for? What do they suggest you ought to use the Internet for after you've signed up/upgraded? For what purposes are people depicted as happily using the Internet?

Business?

Well there's PC Gaming, but that;s unlike to pop up on commercials from say google, I'll look up a few and youtube and see what I can dig up;

Google: Research, spreading awareness, viral home videos and social media
Windows: Social Media, Social media (again) PC Gaming, video streaming, shopping and travel
Apple: photos Travel and General Life Management

So far I see one thing in common with these three, none of them explicit mention fanwork (then again, existing legal laws might make that impossible), These ads are >implying that the internet is mostly used for Business, OC Gaming, Shopping, Travel, research and spreading Awareness of Social Issues, as opposed to, fanwork, porn, research and spreading awareness of social issues

>Awareness
>awareness

I take it you mean big fusses like Kony, the lion, and the Confederate Flag, as opposed to the beast in the thread title?

take a look at this.

Be sure to post that and the petitions on the main article comments.

Here we go again…

Canadian filmmaker chimes in on the matter

Japan and the US align in TPP anti-fanwork and other copyright provisions

Why?

Can't make money if Comeket and Spacebattles still exists, or at as much as CEOs think they could make if the public domain and fanwork aren't a thing.

Will Hollywood's Whining Thwart better TPP Copyright rules?

Answer, probably yes, but then again the DMCA was neutered by safe harbor laws so…who knows?

The tl;dr The USTR decided to go back in and revise the provisions of the last copyright rounds. But the MPAA is trying to throw a hissy fit about this (because they don;t really care about creators, see my above post) and are trying to make the lack thereof copyright exceptions and limitations a sacred cow.

Thoughts?

And on a side note, the comparison to spoiled children in the article is pretty apt, it makes me wonder how many of the CEOs and Businessmen are actually spoiled man-children?

How do these people even get so high in the pecking order when they're this shortsighted and petty?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/24/asia/malaysia-mass-grave/

Incidentally, caught a report on this by radio. Anyone else catch news on it, via TV or radio? It saddens me to see this going on, but I'm glad it's being reported.

So what happened to the meeting that was supposed to take in August?

Oh, that's right. I completely forgot. Neither /pol/ nor /gamergatehq/ nor /monster/ were talking about it.

It took place, Canada/Australia/Japan didn't want to play ball, the whole thing is stalled atm. Negotiators have returned to their respective countries to reconvene at a later date still tbd.

Woooooooo!!

clears throat Okay, good news. Thanks again to those three.

Also, thanks for the prompt response, even if you don't think we can help.

This still scares me. The second talks are happening this month. We didn't beat it last time, we just got lucky that they couldn't come to a conclusion. I doubt we'll be that lucky again. Protesting hasn't seemed to work, either, it's as if they're outright ignoring the protests. What do you guys think?

Define "ignoring a protest". And no, police involvement is not a valid answer.

Well, people have made it very clear that they don't want the TPP to even be considered as a thing. And yet, the representatives still keep trying to organise talks and get it passed, despite the heavy amount of protesting. I know that the companies probably have their hands in this, but even so the amount of protesting should make governments raise an eyebrow.

Already posted this on the main submission but I'm re-posting this here just in case:

Heads up,guys! We finally have the date on the next talks!
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/final-round-of-tpp-talks-set-for-end-of-september/article26384370/
“Chief negotiators for each country will start talks Sept. 26 with the aim of finalizing a Trans-Pacific Partnership deal – and trade ministers are expected to join them in the middle of the following week, possibly Sept. 30, the official says.”

I hope to god that this will fail like the last one,trade agreements like this one should never exist.

Most likely it will go about the same route as last time. No one reaching any sort of agreement, especially since theres more attention going towards it and malaysia's skeleton in the closet. IF in the unlikely event of it passing(again still unlikely) we have the 60-90 day grace period to rally against the awful mess.

New Open Letter Calls on TPP Negotiators to Stand up for User Safeguards

What are your thoughts on this endeavor?

My letter to TPP People
Dear TPP, You poopoo

Well well well…
From the 8chan thread:

OBAMA REACHES OUT TO MEXICO TO SEAL TPP
LEAVES CANADA IN THE DUST
https://archive.is/IHJFL
>U.S. President Barack Obama is reaching out to his Mexican counterpart, Enrique Pena Nieto, as Washington launches a charm offensive to close a massive Pacific Rim trade deal next week.
>As of Thursday afternoon, he had not made a similar call to Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper.
>There’s rising concern, meanwhile, in Canada’s 80,000-job auto-parts manufacturing sector that the Trans-Pacific Partnership could seriously harm the industry.
>The White House announced Thursday that Mr. Obama called the Mexican President on Wednesday regarding Trans-Pacific Partnership talks to discuss “the importance of bringing the negotiations to a swift conclusion.” Mr. Harper’s staff said the Conservative Leader had not received a phone call from the White House.
>Both Canada and Mexico, NAFTA partners with the United States, are standing in the way of of a TPP deal because of a dispute with Japan over how much of each auto or car part can be made overseas and still qualify to be sold in North America without duties under the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
>Mexico, though, is arguably a far more vital auto-sector ally for Mr. Obama in his quest to seal a TPP deal. Mexico ranks second behind the United States and ahead of Canada in annual auto production, and its output is growing every year. The country once considered the junior partner in NAFTA will be producing five million vehicles annually by 2020, while Canadian output is expected to be about two million vehicles.
>Japan, one of the most influential players in the 12-country TPP talks, has so far refused to give ground on rules in the proposed accord that could hurt the Canadian and Mexican auto sectors.

Should I add anyone who's part of TPP to my target list?

…Please clarify and rephrase.

SAVE_US.JPN

In terms of watching what these people will do and how they'll achieve it. And how many of them are "just following orders".

Better.

Do we have a list yet of the delegates?

Deal reached on Pacific Rim trade pact in boost for Obama economic agenda

{ The United States, Japan and 10 other Pacific Rim nations reached agreement Monday on the largest free-trade accord in a generation, an ambitious effort led by the Obama administration to knit together economies across a vast region.

Even if the deal is completed, Obama’s work is not yet done, however. Though he won new “fast-track” trade powers from Congress in the spring to help smooth negotiations, the president still must get the final pact ratified by a vote in Congress, which probably will take place early next year.

Under the terms of the fast-track legislation, Obama must wait 90 days after the TPP agreement is completed before he signs it and sends it to Congress for a vote, and the text of the accord must be made public for at least 60 of those days. }

Right, people. We need to harden the fuck up more than ever, now. We can't let these cunts win.

Any details on what made Canada buckle here?

Ok people, I'm legitimately afraid right now

Fuck America.

Canada signing the TPP is legitimately pissing me the fuck off. And the worst is that the only party that's willing to stand against it is currently tanking in election polls. Now, unless I'm overreacting, which I dearly hope I am, I'm going to have to take down my fan webcomics because fanart is a CRIME now.

God, I hate the world sometimes…

…Ah, wait. Of course Harper would do something to screw over his country again.

Shit. And there goes internet privacy. Just so you all know this is just begging for a series of dramatic videos from Anonymous declaring World War III since this time, not a single one, but many countries chose to secretly pass this dysfunctional and limiting piece of garbage. The moment TPP actually starts being enforced heavily in the U.S.A, expect mass rebellion online especially from Anonymous in addition to various hackers from different countries that hate each other. Internet Hell will break loose, you heard it here first from Epyc Wyn.

For information on why I and others are pissed off please click the following link: https://www.eff.org/issues/tpp

Congress can still kill it with a majority vote.
Hillary Clinton just flipflopped and came out against it.

And Donald Trump said its a bad idea so thats two major players out against it, and of course Mr Sanders is very outspoken against it.

If anything, the fact that so many of the major 2016 presidential candidates have come out against TPP makes me pretty hopeful. Obama's remaining time in office is limited, so whether the TPP passes or not, it'll be sure to face opposition next presidency.

WikiLeaks posts final draft version of IP chapter

Direct link to the PDF