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"Pickup Artist" (PUA) is a term used to describe a man who utilizes a variety of techniques to attract and seduce women. Online, there are many advice blogs and discussion forums that cater to the PUA community, each with their own unique set of jargon and slang terms.

Origin

The earliest known methodological approach to seduction may be credited to American motivational speaker Ross Jeffries, who promoted a series of neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) techniques named “speed seduction” in the early 1990s[1][2]. In 1994, the Usenet group alt.seduction.fast (ASF)[3] was launched by Jeffries’ student Lewis De Payne, which gave rise to the now defunct alternative forum Moderated ASF. On December 25th, 1999, the PUA community entered the realm of popular culture with the release of the drama film Magnolia, in which Tom Cruise plays the motivational seduction speaker Frank T.J. Mackey (shown below).

On April 15th, 2003, Urban Dictionary[4] user Spit Blood submitted an entry for the term "pickup artist," defining it as "a person skilled in the art of seduction."

Spread

On April 5th, 2005, the /r/seduction[5] subreddit was launched, gaining upwards of 129,400 readers in the next five years. On September 6th, investigative reporter Neil Strauss's self-help book The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists[6] was published, in which Strauss recounts his experiences shadowing those in the seduction community. The book was subsequently featured on the New York Times Bestseller List two months after its publications and the term “pickup artist” grew in prominence as a result. On August 6th, 2007, the reality television show The Pickup Artist premiered on VH1, starring Erik von Markvok (a.k.a. Mystery) as the dating instructor who coaches the program’s contestants various seduction techniques.

On June 27th, 2008, Gawker[7] published an article mocking the website of self-proclaimed "world's greatest lover and seducer" "Dimitry the Lover"[8] (shown below). On March 22nd, 2010, the Gawker Media women's interest blog Jezebel [9] published an article about the PUAs, claiming that many in the seduction community promoted misogyny.

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On March 24th, 2011, Time Out Chicago[10] published feminist blogger Clarisse Thorn's interview with The Game author Neil Strauss. On April 12th, the Simple Pickup YouTube channel was created, featuring interviews, pranks and instructional videos for approaching and seducing women. The first uploaded video was titled "Internet Trolls Pick Up Girls," in which women are approached using Internet meme references by the channel creators Kong, Jesse and Jason (shown below, left). Within three years, the video garnered more than 2.26 million views and 7,100 comments. As of June 2013, the channel has received over 936,000 subscribers and their most popular video has gained upwards of 3.66 million views (shown below, right).

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On March 9th, 2012, the webcomic Xkcd[11][11] published a comic mocking the PUA technique known as “negging,” which involves making deprecating comments to women in order to undermine their self esteem (shown below).

IVE BEEN LEARNING TRICSNo, ITS JUSTA BUNCH JUST TALK TO THEM LIKE PROM PICKUP ARTIST FORUMS. OF TIPS! UKE NEGGNG:A FÜCKING HUMAN BENG. YOU BELITLE CHICKS To UNDERMINE THEIR SEF- NAH, THATSA PICKUP ARTISTS ARE DEHUMANIZING CREEPS CONFIDENCE S0 THEYL BE MORE VULNERABE SUCKER'S GAME. WHO SEE RELATIONSHIPS AS ADVERSARIAL ANDAND SEEK YOUR APPROVAL WOMEN AS SEX TOYS. WISH ME LUCK! YOU LCOK LIKE YOURE ON A DIET THATS GREAT IM GOING TO RTHRon TO ROLL A BOVUNG BALL DOWN UNDER THE LNE OF STAUS. OH NO. THE FRU「PLATE? COOL YOU LOOK LIKE YOURE GOING TO SPEND OK, YOUR TURN! 0OH O0H-ARE YOUR LUFE HANING ONE EPPHANY AFTERTRY INSULTING MY HAIR! WE NEGGING? ANOTHER, AUNAYS THINKINGYOVE FINALLY FIGURED OUT WHATS HOLDING YOU BACK, LETME TRY!AND HOWYOU CAN FINAULY BE PRODUCTIVE I THINKI NEED To GO HOME AND THINK ABOUT MY LIFE AND CREATIVE AND TURN YOUR LIFE AROUND. BUTNOTHNG WIL EVER CHANGE IT WONT HELP THAT CYCLE OF MED㏄RTY SNT DE TO SOME OBSTPCLE. ITS WHO YOU ARE THE THING STANDING IN THE WAY OF YOUR DREAMS IS THAT THE PERSON HAVING TH IS HU

Controversy

Above the Game Kickstarter Controversy

On May 29th, 2013, PUA Ken Hoinsky (a.k.a. TofuTofu on Reddit) launched a Kickstarter[12] page for an instructional guidebook for "getting awesome with women." By the end of the campaign's funding period on June 19th, it had earned over $16,300 of the $2,000 goal.

The same day, Salon[13] published an article which criticized the project, using Hoinsky's Reddit comment history as evidence that his techniques were misogynistic and overly aggressive. A comment was quoted from a /r/seduction[14] post from May 1st, 2013, which gave instructions on overcoming "resistance" from women who refuse to return to a man's home after a date:

Expect her to offer some resistance when you try to bring her home. Throwing out a “I don’t sleep with someone on the first date.” or “No sex, okay?” will do wonders. It all helps to generate plausible deniability. If it just happened while we were in the moment she will feel much more comfortable knowing she fooled around with you. No girl wants to feel like a slut.

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About

"Pickup Artist" (PUA) is a term used to describe a man who utilizes a variety of techniques to attract and seduce women. Online, there are many advice blogs and discussion forums that cater to the PUA community, each with their own unique set of jargon and slang terms.

Origin

The earliest known methodological approach to seduction may be credited to American motivational speaker Ross Jeffries, who promoted a series of neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) techniques named “speed seduction” in the early 1990s[1][2]. In 1994, the Usenet group alt.seduction.fast (ASF)[3] was launched by Jeffries’ student Lewis De Payne, which gave rise to the now defunct alternative forum Moderated ASF. On December 25th, 1999, the PUA community entered the realm of popular culture with the release of the drama film Magnolia, in which Tom Cruise plays the motivational seduction speaker Frank T.J. Mackey (shown below).



On April 15th, 2003, Urban Dictionary[4] user Spit Blood submitted an entry for the term "pickup artist," defining it as "a person skilled in the art of seduction."

Spread

On April 5th, 2005, the /r/seduction[5] subreddit was launched, gaining upwards of 129,400 readers in the next five years. On September 6th, investigative reporter Neil Strauss's self-help book The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists[6] was published, in which Strauss recounts his experiences shadowing those in the seduction community. The book was subsequently featured on the New York Times Bestseller List two months after its publications and the term “pickup artist” grew in prominence as a result. On August 6th, 2007, the reality television show The Pickup Artist premiered on VH1, starring Erik von Markvok (a.k.a. Mystery) as the dating instructor who coaches the program’s contestants various seduction techniques.



On June 27th, 2008, Gawker[7] published an article mocking the website of self-proclaimed "world's greatest lover and seducer" "Dimitry the Lover"[8] (shown below). On March 22nd, 2010, the Gawker Media women's interest blog Jezebel [9] published an article about the PUAs, claiming that many in the seduction community promoted misogyny.


conguest of トhe Month DIMITRI THE LOVER Testimonials Dimitri The Lover Banned Animation Toronbo Real Men Courses Dimitri Church of Dimitri LEARN ABOUT DIMITRI Genuine Dimitri Producebs Contac卜 셔edia Cenbre

On March 24th, 2011, Time Out Chicago[10] published feminist blogger Clarisse Thorn's interview with The Game author Neil Strauss. On April 12th, the Simple Pickup YouTube channel was created, featuring interviews, pranks and instructional videos for approaching and seducing women. The first uploaded video was titled "Internet Trolls Pick Up Girls," in which women are approached using Internet meme references by the channel creators Kong, Jesse and Jason (shown below, left). Within three years, the video garnered more than 2.26 million views and 7,100 comments. As of June 2013, the channel has received over 936,000 subscribers and their most popular video has gained upwards of 3.66 million views (shown below, right).


[This video has been removed]

[This video has been removed]


On March 9th, 2012, the webcomic Xkcd[11][11] published a comic mocking the PUA technique known as “negging,” which involves making deprecating comments to women in order to undermine their self esteem (shown below).


IVE BEEN LEARNING TRICSNo, ITS JUSTA BUNCH JUST TALK TO THEM LIKE PROM PICKUP ARTIST FORUMS. OF TIPS! UKE NEGGNG:A FÜCKING HUMAN BENG. YOU BELITLE CHICKS To UNDERMINE THEIR SEF- NAH, THATSA PICKUP ARTISTS ARE DEHUMANIZING CREEPS CONFIDENCE S0 THEYL BE MORE VULNERABE SUCKER'S GAME. WHO SEE RELATIONSHIPS AS ADVERSARIAL ANDAND SEEK YOUR APPROVAL WOMEN AS SEX TOYS. WISH ME LUCK! YOU LCOK LIKE YOURE ON A DIET THATS GREAT IM GOING TO RTHRon TO ROLL A BOVUNG BALL DOWN UNDER THE LNE OF STAUS. OH NO. THE FRU「PLATE? COOL YOU LOOK LIKE YOURE GOING TO SPEND OK, YOUR TURN! 0OH O0H-ARE YOUR LUFE HANING ONE EPPHANY AFTERTRY INSULTING MY HAIR! WE NEGGING? ANOTHER, AUNAYS THINKINGYOVE FINALLY FIGURED OUT WHATS HOLDING YOU BACK, LETME TRY!AND HOWYOU CAN FINAULY BE PRODUCTIVE I THINKI NEED To GO HOME AND THINK ABOUT MY LIFE AND CREATIVE AND TURN YOUR LIFE AROUND. BUTNOTHNG WIL EVER CHANGE IT WONT HELP THAT CYCLE OF MED㏄RTY SNT DE TO SOME OBSTPCLE. ITS WHO YOU ARE THE THING STANDING IN THE WAY OF YOUR DREAMS IS THAT THE PERSON HAVING TH IS HU

Controversy

Above the Game Kickstarter Controversy

On May 29th, 2013, PUA Ken Hoinsky (a.k.a. TofuTofu on Reddit) launched a Kickstarter[12] page for an instructional guidebook for "getting awesome with women." By the end of the campaign's funding period on June 19th, it had earned over $16,300 of the $2,000 goal.



The same day, Salon[13] published an article which criticized the project, using Hoinsky's Reddit comment history as evidence that his techniques were misogynistic and overly aggressive. A comment was quoted from a /r/seduction[14] post from May 1st, 2013, which gave instructions on overcoming "resistance" from women who refuse to return to a man's home after a date:

Expect her to offer some resistance when you try to bring her home. Throwing out a “I don’t sleep with someone on the first date.” or “No sex, okay?” will do wonders. It all helps to generate plausible deniability. If it just happened while we were in the moment she will feel much more comfortable knowing she fooled around with you. No girl wants to feel like a slut.

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“Expect her to offer some resistance when you try to bring her home. Throwing out a “I don’t sleep with someone on the first date.” or “No sex, okay?” will do wonders. It all helps to generate plausible deniability. If it just happened while we were in the moment she will feel much more comfortable knowing she fooled around with you. No girl wants to feel like a slut.”

Lel, this isn’t the 1950s, guy. Women don’t pretend that they don’t want sex because it’s socially acceptable to pretend you don’t want it, they do it because they don’t want to have sex with you. Also, I’m pretty sure there is a line crossed between persuading someone and intentionally tricking them. You're basically telling your audience "women are stupid, and will believe you when you tell them you don't want to have sex. You should take full advantage of this"

I sure hope the rest of the advice in this kickstarted book isn't like this, because advice like this is about 60 years outdated.

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