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"States' Rights To What?" is a popular rhetorical question and response to the phrase "The Civil War was about states' rights." Specifically, it expresses the view that the American Civil War was caused by a dispute over slavery, a viewpoint most modern-day historians and politicians share, rather than a dispute over states' rights, which is considered a minority viewpoint. The expected answer to the question is "states' rights to slavery," thus contradicting the narrative that the Civil War was not about slavery.

Online, the phrase combination is often used in object-labeling and comparison formats.

Origin

The cause of the American Civil war has been debated ever since the war took place from 1861 to 1865. Ever since, a vocal minority of people in the U.S. insist that the war was about states' rights. Common points of evidence used to prove that the war was about slavery include the Cornerstone Speech,[1] the South Carolina Declaration of Secession[2] and Alexander H. Stephen's letter to Abraham Lincoln. An example of the discourse on the issue in video form was published by journalist Robert Maguire on September 17th, 2018, where it gained 61,100 likes and 23,100 retweets over three years (shown below).

The first instance of this specific phrase to describe the state of events comes from James McPherson,[3] a historian, who in 2007 stated:

Of all these interpretations [of the Civil War], the states'-rights argument is perhaps the weakest. It fails to ask the question, states' rights for what purpose? States' rights, or sovereignty, was always more a means than an end, an instrument to achieve a certain goal more than a principle.

Memes have also been made on the topic for many years, even though the specific phrase didn't see any use until later in mainstream meme culture. The following examples, which each have had their original sources removed, appeared in 2012 and 2017 respectively, but the very first instances remains unknown.

If Fox News was around August 6, 1965 FOX NEWS voter fraud and uninformed voters Federal Gevernment impedes on states rights Destroying laws that protect ffom
Whiat the Cive War Was Fought Over Damn I wish I could read Slavery

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The first meme using the phrase was posted to Twitter by @8Alton8[4] on September 25th, 2018, using the format from Kaiba’s Defeat. It gained 3,000 likes and 1,000 retweets over three years (shown below).

The Civil War was about states' rights! 0 A state's right to what? 10 1000

The meme slowly gained traction throughout the following years with an NPC version being posted to the subreddit r/HistoryMemes by a now-deleted Redditor[5] on May 4th, 2019, gaining 10,900 points in six months (shown below).

The Civil War States' right to was fought over States' rights! what?

A Star Wars variant was posted to the same subreddit on December 2nd of that year by Redditor[6] u/RealWakandaDPRK, gaining 84,300 points in six months (shown below).

ABOUT STATES THE REALLY ACTUALLY WAR RIGHTS CIVIL WAS A STATE'S RIGHT TO WHAT?

Various Examples

"Actually, the american civil war was about state rights" "State rights to do what?"
The civil war was about states' rights. A states Right to what?
"The civil war was about states right" States rights to do what?
"A states right to what?" "The Civil War was About State Rights" e 4012 Ubisoft Assassin's Creed HL
Actually was about the Civil War "A state's rights to what?" States' rights!
SI The Civil war was started over States Rights, not slavery The class A state's right to what? The teacher

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About

"States' Rights To What?" is a popular rhetorical question and response to the phrase "The Civil War was about states' rights." Specifically, it expresses the view that the American Civil War was caused by a dispute over slavery, a viewpoint most modern-day historians and politicians share, rather than a dispute over states' rights, which is considered a minority viewpoint. The expected answer to the question is "states' rights to slavery," thus contradicting the narrative that the Civil War was not about slavery.

Online, the phrase combination is often used in object-labeling and comparison formats.

Origin

The cause of the American Civil war has been debated ever since the war took place from 1861 to 1865. Ever since, a vocal minority of people in the U.S. insist that the war was about states' rights. Common points of evidence used to prove that the war was about slavery include the Cornerstone Speech,[1] the South Carolina Declaration of Secession[2] and Alexander H. Stephen's letter to Abraham Lincoln. An example of the discourse on the issue in video form was published by journalist Robert Maguire on September 17th, 2018, where it gained 61,100 likes and 23,100 retweets over three years (shown below).


The first instance of this specific phrase to describe the state of events comes from James McPherson,[3] a historian, who in 2007 stated:

Of all these interpretations [of the Civil War], the states'-rights argument is perhaps the weakest. It fails to ask the question, states' rights for what purpose? States' rights, or sovereignty, was always more a means than an end, an instrument to achieve a certain goal more than a principle.

Memes have also been made on the topic for many years, even though the specific phrase didn't see any use until later in mainstream meme culture. The following examples, which each have had their original sources removed, appeared in 2012 and 2017 respectively, but the very first instances remains unknown.


If Fox News was around August 6, 1965 FOX NEWS voter fraud and uninformed voters Federal Gevernment impedes on states rights Destroying laws that protect ffom Whiat the Cive War Was Fought Over Damn I wish I could read Slavery

Spread

The first meme using the phrase was posted to Twitter by @8Alton8[4] on September 25th, 2018, using the format from Kaiba’s Defeat. It gained 3,000 likes and 1,000 retweets over three years (shown below).


The Civil War was about states' rights! 0 A state's right to what? 10 1000

The meme slowly gained traction throughout the following years with an NPC version being posted to the subreddit r/HistoryMemes by a now-deleted Redditor[5] on May 4th, 2019, gaining 10,900 points in six months (shown below).


The Civil War States' right to was fought over States' rights! what?

A Star Wars variant was posted to the same subreddit on December 2nd of that year by Redditor[6] u/RealWakandaDPRK, gaining 84,300 points in six months (shown below).


ABOUT STATES THE REALLY ACTUALLY WAR RIGHTS CIVIL WAS A STATE'S RIGHT TO WHAT?

Various Examples

"Actually, the american civil war was about state rights" "State rights to do what?" The civil war was about states' rights. A states Right to what? "The civil war was about states right" States rights to do what?
"A states right to what?" "The Civil War was About State Rights" e 4012 Ubisoft Assassin's Creed HL Actually was about the Civil War "A state's rights to what?" States' rights! SI The Civil war was started over States Rights, not slavery The class A state's right to what? The teacher

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Fun fact: the "States Rights" myth was created by "literally some guy" years after the war was over. Not even a leading person or anything, really just some Southerner that was salty they lost.

The actual leaders of the South wore the fact they fought for slavery proudly on their chests.

I see it very much as the same thing as the "Dolchstoßlegende" (Stab-in-the-back myth) in post WW1 Germany, which said that Germany was totally undefeated in WW1 and would have totally won EZ if it hadn't been for those backstabbing anti-monarchists (meaning Social Democrats and Communists).

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