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You will never be a woman (shortened to YWNBAW) is a meme phrase that turned into a full copypasta from 4chan and Reddit. The phrase is meant to demean trans women, who are seen as not real woman by TERFs and those on /pol/.

Origin

The phrase started to see use on 4chan in March of 2011, with an anon posted inside the /a/ board using the phrase while replying in a thread[1] about the board not liking transgendered women (shown below). From that point forward, the phrase continued to see use as a reply within trans threads, being said a minimum of two times a month.

Anonymous Thu 24 Mar 2011 09:26:58 No.47379885 Quoted By: >>47380052 >>47378593 This is a seriously bad idea OP. Know this. No matter what you have cut off or put in, you will never be a woman. Hormone therapy wont make you female. A vaginoplasty won't make you female. Breast implants won't make you female. You will never bare children, you will never go through what a woman does every day, you will only end up mutilating yourself and regretting it later. Another thing you are doing is maximizing your potential salary at about seventy percent of what a man makes. If you want to be a homosexual that's just fine, it's tolerated in most places and accepted in some, go for it but don't mutilate yourself to try to be something that you are not and can never be. The medical tech to make you female is about fifty to a hundred years away so I won't even suggest that you wait for it. There is no magic spring that will turn you into a girl. The surgery you're looking to go through hurts all through recovery and depending on how good your doctor is it can hurt constantly afterwards. I'm not being a bastard or trolling you. A friend of mine went through the whole thing, he had to get one of the surgeries re-done because the first doctor was a f------ hack ad did a lot of nerve damage. Ten years after the first surgery he could pass for a woman. He ended up committing suicide five years later when the love of his life found out that he wasn't as advertised and dumped him. F----- didn't even come to the funeral.

One of the first examples of the phrase integrating into memes comes in the form of an assigned male comic edit, in which it is used to disparage the comic creator by saying they will never be a real woman. This meme was posted to Imgur] by an unknown poster on February 15th, 2016 (shown below).

ASSIGNED MALE TLL NEVER BE A PEAL WOMAN

Spread

The phrase continued to see niche use until a revival around 2020 took place. On April 16th, 2020, a meme was posted to the subreddit /r/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns[3], which is a subreddit that is self-described as a place for trans people to make fun of themselves and others. The meme, posted by the Redditor[4] u/MtypeE, received 410 upvotes and 13 comments in two years (shown below).

Friend: "You will never be a real Women" Aight bro I'm bouta cry

A few months later, the phrase was turned into an Urban Dictionary entry[5], created on December 7th, 2020, by the user whatthefuckisapsudonym, where it gained 76 upvotes and 604 downvotes in a year (shown below).

y f > you will never be a woman A phrase used by incels on 4chan to belittle trans people (specifically m>f) Trans person: Hey guys! I just did my hair, what do you think? 4channer: You will never be a woman. Go kill yourself by whatthefuckisapsudonym December 07, 2020 Ib 76 FLAG 604

Copypasta

On November 10th, 2020, a copypasta was uploaded to the subreddit /r/copypasta in which some wording from a 4chan post earlier that day is used to create a longform copypasta[6] to use in threads against Transgenders. The copypasta gained 650 upvotes before the creator and several comments were deleted, and exists below in it's entirety.

You will never be a real woman. You have no womb, you have no ovaries, you have no eggs. You are a homosexual man twisted by drugs and surgery into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.
All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your ghoulish appearance behind closed doors.
Men are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed men to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even trannies who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a man. Your bone structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk guy home with you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your diseased, infected axe wound.
You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.
Eventually it’ll be too much to bear – you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a man is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably male.
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.

As is common with copypastas, variants started to get made and shared around, where the copypasta is made into a makeshift mad-libs with various words and phrases altered to shift the tone to be something radically different from the original meaning. The most prominent examples of variations off the original are shown below.

Wholesome Variant

You are a real woman. You have no womb, you have no ovaries, you have no eggs, but that doesn't matter. You are a valid human who is trying to feel comfortable in her body.
All the “validation” you get is pure. Behind your back people love you. Your parents are happy and proud of you, your friends laugh at your jokes behind closed doors, and boys love you, and girls envy you.
Men absolutely love you. Trans folk who “pass” look ordinary and natural to a man. Your bone structure does not matter. Estradiol widens the hips.
You will be happy. You will smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, and deep inside you feel the euphoria creeping up like a weed. It is what defines you, not the transphobes.
Eventually, it’ll be perfect for you – you’ll come out, start HRT, get top surgery, and finally be your ideal self. Your parents will find you, happy and relieved that they finally have a happy daughter. They’ll congratulate you on your hard journey, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a woman is what you are.

Weeaboo Variant

You will never be Japanese. You have no ancestry, you have no citizenship, you have no skills that would make Japan ever want you. You are a shut-in self-hating white man twisted by delusions of mythical Japanese superiority and exposure to Japanese media into a disgusting mockery of nature’s perfection. All 'validation' you get from other people in this position couldn't be worse in making you believe that spending years of your life learning a globally useless language to a first-grader's level was a worthwhile use of your time, but one can't expect that an individual as pathetic as you will ever know the value of the youth you threw away in doing that. Actual Japanese are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of linguistic evolution have allowed natives to identify frauds from mannerisms and vocabulary alone. Even if your written text of self-hatred and attention begging akin to a stray dog's somehow passes as normal (it won't), any Japanese person will immediately cut all ties when they hear the voice and accent of someone who is not only a basic Japanese speaker at best, but worth no more than garbage in skills, accomplishments, and likeability. You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile and laugh to yourself believing that watching a content creator that you understand 20% of at best is somehow superior than watching your own kind, as you project your disgusting traits onto your entire kind. However, deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight, and you know that. You know that all you do now is have an entirely new linguistic medium in which to be ignored, and not even the exotic trait of being foreign makes up for just how uninteresting of a person you are. Eventually it’ll be too much to bear – you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a Western man is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably Caucasian. This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back. Hate yourself and apologize for being white to some Japanese entity that exists only in your mind while actual Japanese people put in effort to learn English for the valid reason of it being the global language.

"Cummies" Variant

You will never have enough cum in your copypasta. You have no synonyms, you have no descriptions, you have no abstract sense of this liquid, but that doesn't matter. You are a pathetic loser who is spending his time on writing copypastas without enough sweet mummies cummies.
All the hatred you get is genuine. People openly hate your copypastas. Your parents are ashamed of you and your father regrets spending his cum on a creature like you, your friends don’t laugh at your copypastas as there aren’t enough mentions of cum, boys hate you, and girls are disgusted of you.
R/copypasta users absolutely despise you. An average “UwU Amongus Femboy Cumming In My Boypu$$y” copypasta is pathetic and vanilla to an average visitor of this place. Your text structure does not matter. It doesn’t matter how hard you try, it still doesn’t have enough enough cum to satisfy an average r/copypasta user.
You will never be happy. You try to smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the anxiety and understanding of not being able to satisfy the sick wants of this place creeping up like a weed. You will never fit enough cum in your pasta.
Eventually, you will do insane things – you’ll rewrite the entire War and Peace, inserting lakes of cum in text whenever possible, start applying some dolphin pussy juice on your dick to produce infinite cum, get a prostate surgery, but you will never have enough cum in your copypasta. You can rewrite the entire Bible or Quran and post it on r/Copypasta, but you will receive the same answers over and over again. “Not enough cum”. “Where amogus”. “Ur mum gae”. These comments and downvotes will drive you insane and one day you will understand that it is impossible to fit enough cum in your pasta. This day, your parents will find your dead and mutilated body and they will be happy and relieved that this retard with a rotten brain has finally died. Thousands of years later, archeologists will find your post, where you have rewritten the entire End of Evangelion script, replacing red liquid with cum, thus filling the whole Earth with it, and they will say “Not enough cum, didn’t laugh”.

Country Variant

bq.You will never be a real country. You have no history, you have no culture, you have no future. You are a decadent land twisted by corporation and immigration into a crude mockery of democracy’s perfection.
All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your politicians are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “allies” laugh at your ghoulish population behind closed meeting doors.
Western civilizations are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of culture have allowed civilizations to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even elections who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a democracy. Your social structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a desperate ethnical group home with you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your diseased, infected Democrat cities.
You will never be free. You wrench out a growing GDP every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush your society under the unbearable weight.
Eventually it’ll be too much to bear – you’ll start a riot, burn a city, murder your citizen, and plunge into civil war. Europe will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll balkanize you in countries marked with native American names, and every civilization for the rest of eternity will know a degenerate society has failed there. Your pseudo-culture will be forgotten and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a history book that unmistakably showed you were unnatural ethnical patchwork.
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.

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External References

[1] 4chan – first use

[2] Imgur – Meme usage

[3] Reddit -r/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns

[4] Reddit – MtypeE

[5] Urban Dictionary – whatthefuckisapsudonym

[6] Reddit -Original Copypasta



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About

You will never be a woman (shortened to YWNBAW) is a meme phrase that turned into a full copypasta from 4chan and Reddit. The phrase is meant to demean trans women, who are seen as not real woman by TERFs and those on /pol/.

Origin

The phrase started to see use on 4chan in March of 2011, with an anon posted inside the /a/ board using the phrase while replying in a thread[1] about the board not liking transgendered women (shown below). From that point forward, the phrase continued to see use as a reply within trans threads, being said a minimum of two times a month.


Anonymous Thu 24 Mar 2011 09:26:58 No.47379885 Quoted By: >>47380052 >>47378593 This is a seriously bad idea OP. Know this. No matter what you have cut off or put in, you will never be a woman. Hormone therapy wont make you female. A vaginoplasty won't make you female. Breast implants won't make you female. You will never bare children, you will never go through what a woman does every day, you will only end up mutilating yourself and regretting it later. Another thing you are doing is maximizing your potential salary at about seventy percent of what a man makes. If you want to be a homosexual that's just fine, it's tolerated in most places and accepted in some, go for it but don't mutilate yourself to try to be something that you are not and can never be. The medical tech to make you female is about fifty to a hundred years away so I won't even suggest that you wait for it. There is no magic spring that will turn you into a girl. The surgery you're looking to go through hurts all through recovery and depending on how good your doctor is it can hurt constantly afterwards. I'm not being a bastard or trolling you. A friend of mine went through the whole thing, he had to get one of the surgeries re-done because the first doctor was a f------ hack ad did a lot of nerve damage. Ten years after the first surgery he could pass for a woman. He ended up committing suicide five years later when the love of his life found out that he wasn't as advertised and dumped him. F----- didn't even come to the funeral.

One of the first examples of the phrase integrating into memes comes in the form of an assigned male comic edit, in which it is used to disparage the comic creator by saying they will never be a real woman. This meme was posted to Imgur] by an unknown poster on February 15th, 2016 (shown below).


ASSIGNED MALE TLL NEVER BE A PEAL WOMAN

Spread

The phrase continued to see niche use until a revival around 2020 took place. On April 16th, 2020, a meme was posted to the subreddit /r/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns[3], which is a subreddit that is self-described as a place for trans people to make fun of themselves and others. The meme, posted by the Redditor[4] u/MtypeE, received 410 upvotes and 13 comments in two years (shown below).


Friend: "You will never be a real Women" Aight bro I'm bouta cry

A few months later, the phrase was turned into an Urban Dictionary entry[5], created on December 7th, 2020, by the user whatthefuckisapsudonym, where it gained 76 upvotes and 604 downvotes in a year (shown below).


y f > you will never be a woman A phrase used by incels on 4chan to belittle trans people (specifically m>f) Trans person: Hey guys! I just did my hair, what do you think? 4channer: You will never be a woman. Go kill yourself by whatthefuckisapsudonym December 07, 2020 Ib 76 FLAG 604

Copypasta

On November 10th, 2020, a copypasta was uploaded to the subreddit /r/copypasta in which some wording from a 4chan post earlier that day is used to create a longform copypasta[6] to use in threads against Transgenders. The copypasta gained 650 upvotes before the creator and several comments were deleted, and exists below in it's entirety.

You will never be a real woman. You have no womb, you have no ovaries, you have no eggs. You are a homosexual man twisted by drugs and surgery into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.
All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your ghoulish appearance behind closed doors.
Men are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed men to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even trannies who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a man. Your bone structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk guy home with you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your diseased, infected axe wound.
You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.
Eventually it’ll be too much to bear – you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a man is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably male.
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.


As is common with copypastas, variants started to get made and shared around, where the copypasta is made into a makeshift mad-libs with various words and phrases altered to shift the tone to be something radically different from the original meaning. The most prominent examples of variations off the original are shown below.

Wholesome Variant

You are a real woman. You have no womb, you have no ovaries, you have no eggs, but that doesn't matter. You are a valid human who is trying to feel comfortable in her body.
All the “validation” you get is pure. Behind your back people love you. Your parents are happy and proud of you, your friends laugh at your jokes behind closed doors, and boys love you, and girls envy you.
Men absolutely love you. Trans folk who “pass” look ordinary and natural to a man. Your bone structure does not matter. Estradiol widens the hips.
You will be happy. You will smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, and deep inside you feel the euphoria creeping up like a weed. It is what defines you, not the transphobes.
Eventually, it’ll be perfect for you – you’ll come out, start HRT, get top surgery, and finally be your ideal self. Your parents will find you, happy and relieved that they finally have a happy daughter. They’ll congratulate you on your hard journey, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a woman is what you are.


Weeaboo Variant

You will never be Japanese. You have no ancestry, you have no citizenship, you have no skills that would make Japan ever want you. You are a shut-in self-hating white man twisted by delusions of mythical Japanese superiority and exposure to Japanese media into a disgusting mockery of nature’s perfection. All 'validation' you get from other people in this position couldn't be worse in making you believe that spending years of your life learning a globally useless language to a first-grader's level was a worthwhile use of your time, but one can't expect that an individual as pathetic as you will ever know the value of the youth you threw away in doing that. Actual Japanese are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of linguistic evolution have allowed natives to identify frauds from mannerisms and vocabulary alone. Even if your written text of self-hatred and attention begging akin to a stray dog's somehow passes as normal (it won't), any Japanese person will immediately cut all ties when they hear the voice and accent of someone who is not only a basic Japanese speaker at best, but worth no more than garbage in skills, accomplishments, and likeability. You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile and laugh to yourself believing that watching a content creator that you understand 20% of at best is somehow superior than watching your own kind, as you project your disgusting traits onto your entire kind. However, deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight, and you know that. You know that all you do now is have an entirely new linguistic medium in which to be ignored, and not even the exotic trait of being foreign makes up for just how uninteresting of a person you are. Eventually it’ll be too much to bear – you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a Western man is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably Caucasian. This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back. Hate yourself and apologize for being white to some Japanese entity that exists only in your mind while actual Japanese people put in effort to learn English for the valid reason of it being the global language.


"Cummies" Variant

You will never have enough cum in your copypasta. You have no synonyms, you have no descriptions, you have no abstract sense of this liquid, but that doesn't matter. You are a pathetic loser who is spending his time on writing copypastas without enough sweet mummies cummies.
All the hatred you get is genuine. People openly hate your copypastas. Your parents are ashamed of you and your father regrets spending his cum on a creature like you, your friends don’t laugh at your copypastas as there aren’t enough mentions of cum, boys hate you, and girls are disgusted of you.
R/copypasta users absolutely despise you. An average “UwU Amongus Femboy Cumming In My Boypu$$y” copypasta is pathetic and vanilla to an average visitor of this place. Your text structure does not matter. It doesn’t matter how hard you try, it still doesn’t have enough enough cum to satisfy an average r/copypasta user.
You will never be happy. You try to smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the anxiety and understanding of not being able to satisfy the sick wants of this place creeping up like a weed. You will never fit enough cum in your pasta.
Eventually, you will do insane things – you’ll rewrite the entire War and Peace, inserting lakes of cum in text whenever possible, start applying some dolphin pussy juice on your dick to produce infinite cum, get a prostate surgery, but you will never have enough cum in your copypasta. You can rewrite the entire Bible or Quran and post it on r/Copypasta, but you will receive the same answers over and over again. “Not enough cum”. “Where amogus”. “Ur mum gae”. These comments and downvotes will drive you insane and one day you will understand that it is impossible to fit enough cum in your pasta. This day, your parents will find your dead and mutilated body and they will be happy and relieved that this retard with a rotten brain has finally died. Thousands of years later, archeologists will find your post, where you have rewritten the entire End of Evangelion script, replacing red liquid with cum, thus filling the whole Earth with it, and they will say “Not enough cum, didn’t laugh”.


Country Variant

bq.You will never be a real country. You have no history, you have no culture, you have no future. You are a decadent land twisted by corporation and immigration into a crude mockery of democracy’s perfection.
All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your politicians are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “allies” laugh at your ghoulish population behind closed meeting doors.
Western civilizations are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of culture have allowed civilizations to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even elections who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a democracy. Your social structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a desperate ethnical group home with you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your diseased, infected Democrat cities.
You will never be free. You wrench out a growing GDP every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush your society under the unbearable weight.
Eventually it’ll be too much to bear – you’ll start a riot, burn a city, murder your citizen, and plunge into civil war. Europe will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll balkanize you in countries marked with native American names, and every civilization for the rest of eternity will know a degenerate society has failed there. Your pseudo-culture will be forgotten and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a history book that unmistakably showed you were unnatural ethnical patchwork.
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.


Search Interest

External References

[1] 4chan – first use

[2] Imgur – Meme usage

[3] Reddit -r/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns

[4] Reddit – MtypeE

[5] Urban Dictionary – whatthefuckisapsudonym

[6] Reddit -Original Copypasta

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