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Fire Emblem Fates Localization Controversy - Lazwald x Selena S support
![Fire Emblem Fates - Lazwald x Luna Lazwald's change to being an "annoyance" is now part of his character in the S support, changing his way of approaching Selena again, taking away from the purpose of the conversation. Most likely because they had to put something in there after they ve already changed Lazwald's character in the t string Odin's insertion is another reminder of discontinuity in the conversations not being fixed properly There are various other lines that were altered or cut to change their interactions and character. For example, Selena doesn't show her less rough side of her character, every mention of it has been cut out or altered in the localization, embarrassment and bashfulness seem to be a target for alteration for whatever reason. As usual, romance, nuance and depth have been shred apart (and probably in this case because they wanted to fit Selena completely in the "Tsundere" character trope without having her also resort to physical violence) #Torrential Downpour S Support Translation Nintendo of America Ver. [ラズワルド] Lazwald: Luna, I have a gift for you today! Laslow: Selena, my darling! I have a gift for you 今日は君に贈り物があるんだ。 Luna: Lazwald what's with you all of a Selena: Hm? For me? ラズワルド [ラズワルドしたっ(いうの? Lazwald: It's this bracelet. I wonder if youll Laslow: Ta-da! It's a bracelet! この腕輪なんだけど… 受け取ってもらえないかな? Luna: !! That .. .b-bracelet Selena: Laslow! Is that...? [ラズワルド] Lazwald: I've always kept it safe, so that I might Laslow: Indeed it is. I've been keeping it one いつか君に渡せるようにって ずっと大切にしまっておいたんだ。 Luna: B-but, why now . why give it to me Selena: But...why are you giving this to me now? で、でも、どうして今 それをあたしにくれるの? [ラズワルド] Lazwald: Ahaha! Why do you think? Laslow: Why do you think I am? あはは なんでだと思う? き、聞いてるのはあたしよ! 早く理由を教えなさいよ! Luna: Im the one asking the questions here! Sena: I'm the one asking the questions here! Tell me why youre doing this, right now Lazwald: Okay well I thought about it a lot Laslow: Fine, fine. You're no fun! I decided to After all that thought, I came to the conclusion give it to you because...well... It's a symbol of that I love you. I want to be with you foreve our everlasting friendship! よく考えたんだけどさ 僕はやっぱり、ルーナが好きだよ。 Selena [ラズワルド] Laslow: Because we I thought it would be nice for you to have a keepsake lke this. It's to remind you that I'll always be here for you. give you this So brace レーナに渡したいなって思ったんだよ。 Luna: I got that part of it! You really thought you wanted to be together my side forever Selena: Yeah, yeah, I get it. You want to be by そ、それはわかってるわよ! あんたはあたしと すっと一緒にいたいって思ったのよね? ラズワルト] Luna: So you've got the bracelet . that you Selena: So...everlasting friendship, huh? Did you その腕輪を… それで、 あたし me give something to Odin too, then? Or...is there What I mean to say is come on..dont you something else you'd like to say? have something else to tell me? 何か他にも言うことがあるんじゃない? [ラズワルド] Lazwald: I dont know? What could you possibly Laslow: Something else? Like what? alking Luna: Erg, I just can't stand it anymore! Why are Selena: Do you really have to be so thickheaded? so なんでこんなににぶいのよ! [ラズワルド] Laslow: Im sorry! I was just kidding あはは Luna: What's a j-joke? Selena: Kidding?! [ラズワルド] Lazwald: I do love you. Consider this bracelet Laslow: I do have something else to say to you. my vow of love to you. 僕は君を愛してる この腕輪はそれを誓う腕輪だよ。 I love you. And this bracelet is a token of my love. And to answer your other question, no, I did not give anything to Odin Selena: Go on. Lazwald: So can you see it in your heart to Laslow: Please, Selena... Will you marry me? 僕と結婚してくれないかな? Luna: Finally! Why dont you just say it honestly Selena: Finally! There it is! Took you long 最初から素直にそう言ってよね! [ラズワルド] Lazwald: Well will you tell me your answer? Laslow: So, um... Do you have an answer for me? それで レーナの返事を聞いてもいいかな? Selena: Oh. Right. I guess it's my turn. I mean, Luna: I-I.. what could I say it's We've known each for so long, y-you know what we've known each other so long... Do I really my answer is without me even saying it! なんていうか その 言わなくたってわかってるでしょ!? [ラズワルド] Lazwald: Nope. Dont know. Not if you dont tell Laslow: Yes. You do me [ ルー Selena: Come on! Don't be cruel. You know how Despite the fact that you know very well .. what I feel あたしの気持ちなんて… わかりきってるくせに are [ラズワルド] Lazwald: aha, come on, let me hear it. I can't | Laslow: Haha, so then say it already! あはは Selena: .. OK. Um...look, Laslow. I really like I-I . love you .too... I always have.I always will, no matter where we end up .I love you. あんたのことが好き 今までも ,すきょ. ラズワルト Luna: So I guess I have nothing better to do Selena: Ugh, fine. Look, I love you! I love you, Laslow 仕方ないから結婚してあげるわ! Lazwald: Thank you ! With this promise, Laslow: Splendid! And will you share your life never be torn apart from each other これで僕たちは…一生離れられないね。 そ、そうよ…幸せにしなかったら 許さないんだから Luna: W-well said .. but I'm warning you, if Selena: Yes! But if you mess this up, I will end you don't make me happy, you'll never hear the you. Understand? end of it [ラズワルド] Lazwald: I know, I know. I'll definitely make you Laslow: Understood. I am yours forever, my love 絶対しあわせにするよ、 お姫様! Selena: So…you know this means you can't be Laslow Selena Laslow: Just kidding! Of course I know that! I promise to devote from here on out. Selena: You better! Oh, and I'll do the same](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/097/430/c84.png)
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![fire Emblem Fates: Aqua x Ryoma B-Support Conversation umma The lines are completely rewritten, some weren't present in the original in any way. The same issue remains with removal of anything related to them being a family (e.g. even the soldiers are part of this "family" even if they're not blood related camaraderie is taken out of the localization). The dynamic of the conversation Mchanges but not in a meaningful way, the swapping of lines and the rewrites are the main problem, in the original, they talked about their feelings more and their bonds were stronger. #Torrentia!Downpour Origin Translation With altered content highlighted in blue NOA Version Ryona: Aqua, do you have the tine for a bit of a Ryo a: Hello, Azura. Do you have a minute? [リョウマ]アクア少しいいか? アクア]リョウ ne Azura: Yes. Actually, I ve been Looking for you. Ryoma: No, I don't you the ather day? remenber that thing I told Ryo a: Ch? You took our conversation to heart? So can I help you wit お前に言ったことがあっただろう? 仲間として、そして家族として、 Ryoma: When I was talking about relyingon me a bit more, not just as a fellow ally, but as a member of the family? もう少し俺を頼ってほしいと。 (79T]え、ええ… [リョウマ]実はその事について、 Azura: Nothing! I just heard that you've beon talking about me behind my back Ryoma: well actually about that, I went and talked to some of the soldiers about it. Ryoma: Did you? Uh...well, that was a bit of a misunderstanding 軍の者達に相談をしてみたんだ。 Everyone started pitching their best advice to me like we were 皆親身になつて相談に乗ってくれた。 Azura : Was it리 Are you saying that you weren't talking about me? ideas to bridge thing tar out, they alding think of any miracle But even after 11, I *S talking about you, but not 俺がお前との距離を縮められるような妙策は we gap between you and .. 結局聞き出すことはできなかった… アクア]リョウ [リョウマ]すまない… [アクア]いいのよ、リョウマ別に気にしなくて。 Ryoma: The truth is, I as asking our friends for ant us to be closer Aqua: No, that's quite all right, Ryoma really it's not gyou fellou soldiers might have sone suggestions on 1いや、しかし… didn Azura: Ch, ny. I'n such a hard time Ryoma: Well you say that, but... [アクア]それにそんな話を当人の私にするなんて! その裏表のない一本気なところが、 リョウマ…あなたらしいわね。 [リョウマ]あ! ああ…確かに本人に 言うようなことじゃないな。すまない。 (777]それよりリョウマ… 私からお願いがあるの。 [リョウマ]な、なんだ!何でも言ってくれ! [アクア]私への優しさはもういいの。 無理に私を妹だと思わなくてもいいから… 私の代わりに、カムイを気遣ってあげて Aqua: And telling the object or your pleas for advice all about it .. Ryouma, that's just like you, you've no guile in your straight and pure Ryoaa: h, right non that you nention it, I probably shouldn't have been tolling you all that. sorry Ryoma: "sigh That's al right. 1 should've come to you instead. P Azura: There's no need to apoloeize, You can make it up to me by do ing n favor actually have a reques Ryoma: Y-you do? You have only to say it and I'11 el Anything you es fuss over me? Avatar should Aqua Really, I don't need your kindness. You needn't have to make ne feel better by thinking of me be your priority no So instead, think of Kamui Ryoma: what does Avatar have to do with this? Azura: Ever since I arrived in Hoshido, yau treated Aqua : That kind of pure kindness that until now』 you gave ne the lave of a close family member ike 家族としての愛情は 本来私ではなく、 カムイに与えられるべきものでしょう? It was never meant far me, sa don't you think yau should give it to Kanui instead? But e both knoI was never supposed to be here. Avatar is your fanily! [リョウマ]そ、それは ! Ryona: Y-you ve got to be Ryoa: Azura, you're wrongl There's roon enough for both you and avatar [アクア]私はずっと あなたや白夜のきょうだいたち、 それからミコト女王と、 家族としての時間を過ごしてきた。 t have been you and our other iblings Azura: I e aluays been happy hr You and Queen koto made sure of that But no you should focus well this tine as a family koto, all come ins 私はそれで、じゅうぶん幸せだわ。 それよりも 今までできなかった分まで、 カムイを愛してあげてほしいの。 私のことを考えるより、 カムイのことを考えてほしいの。 And I'm happy with Just having that. Moreover... I wish you would give your love to Kamui, even more than you couldn't give to me Instead of thinking of me, I wish you'd think of Kamui 私の願いは、それだけよ。 Aqua: That's my request. That's all it is, really [リョウマ]ま、待ってくれ! アクア。 Ryo: Azura, wait! .. .Hnn. Is this why she's been avoiding me? 今まで俺を避けていたのは Aqua. So that's the reason you've been avolding me all this time..? End of B-Support Conversation](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/001/090/467/43f.png "Azura x Ryoma - B support")
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![Fire Emblem Fates - Kamui x Charlotte In the Japanese version, the character's avatar's personality would reflect whomever they chose to get close to, giving the player some agency in choosing how they wanted to characterize them, instead, the localization does not feature this when choosing Charlotte Charlotte's a character which wears a mask all the time, to hide her true personality of someone manipulative and foul mouthed. Primarily, she's nicer but also sexually aggressive in her pretend character. Kamui in the original notices this later on (recurring throughout the supports), and expresses aversion towards her pretend character's sexual aggression, this was completelyr sed in the localization, instead having him claim that her mask is frail and weak, most likely because of a misconception The localization suffers in noticing the differences in the Japanese language (the likely reason for the misconception), there are vocabulary mistakes, especially in the way Charlotte expresses herself, toning down her true personality. E.g. see http://i.imgur.com/RBaKXfw.png Overall, the support featured a more intimate and amicable relationship, the localization, because of the several alterations, took out such feeling #Torrential Downpour S Suppo Translation Nintendo of America Ver ロッテ:どうしたのよ。いきなり呼び出し| Charlotte: What's with you? Calling me out o Charlotte: Why the sudden summons? e blue Kamui: I thought I'd follow in your lead and spit Corrin: After our last conversation, I thought I'd カムイ:僕も君を見習って、心をさらけ出そうと out everything I've been thinking. So from now 思ってね。僕は今から 自分を偽ることなく、本on I'm going to tell you my true feelings 当の気持ちを言う try opening up a bit, like you. There is some real value in being honest, and I'd like to do that without lying to myself Charlotte:What the f---? I love Y シャーロッテ:は?なんなのよ、 一体。 Charlotte:I am...very confused right now Corrin: What I'm trying to say is... I love you Charlotte: What?! Milord, you're speaking crazy カムイ 君が好きだ は、はぁ! ?あんた、頭Charlotte: lobotomy? The f---? Did you geta talk. You need to see a healer i: I'm just fine Corrin: I'm perfectly fine, Charlotte Charlotte: S-stop screwing around with people's Charlotte: If you are in your right mind, then heads like that! シャーロッテ:ひ、 人を馬鹿にすんのもいい加減 you should know how rude it is to mock people Kamui: I'm not screwing around or making fun Corrin: I'm not making fun of you! I'm very カムイ:馬鹿になんてしてし Charlotte: But. you're talking about me? Me! Charlotte: We...we did talk about how my Not only do I have a filthy mouth and a bad personality, but I'm a woman who chops dwn actually an aggressive, tree- smashing girl? trees with my bare hands!? 私よ?私なのよ! ?0% な シャーロッテ:だって helpless-woman thing is an act, right? How I'm カムイ:そんな言い方はよくないよ。 Kamui: You shouldn't talk about yourself like Corrin: Heh, didn't you say the wind blew that tree over? Charlotte: B-but, that's what I am Charlotte: Shut up-you know that was a lie. My point is, I wasn't honest with you before. How can you trust me? カムイ:裏表があるっていうのを気にするのは変Kamui: It's a little weird to get all bent out of だよ。誰しもそういう部分を持っているから shape about the difference in who you are and ね。とにかく僕は君の人間らしいところが好what you show to the world. Everyone deals Corrin: I think I'd be worried about the kind of person I am if your secrets bothered me | Everyone has something they'd rather not show with that. In any case, the very fact that you're to the world. You're human, Charlotte. And the so real and human is what I lov are anese sounds for when | Charlotte: * sniff * sniff * dy starting crying] カムイ:どうしたの? Kamui: What's wrong? somethin wrong Charlotte: [Japanese onomatopoeia for when BLANK] somebody starts sobbing uncontrollably] カムイ:えええええ!? Kamui: Whaaat the helll BLANK] Charlotte: The tears the tears just won't stop Charlotte: The tears... They won't stop!! And in これは本当の涙だから 一瞬で涙を流すテクニックは持ってるけ coming! Oh, I should let you know that these case you weren't sure, these are genuine tears are real tears, okay? I know how to ておくけど ry on Sure, I can cry on command, but this is - ね。 command, but this is different. Believe me カムイ:わかってる。 わかってるよ。 it. it. Corrin: I believe you, but...why are you crying? 本当に私なんかでいいの? Charlotte: But would you really be happy with Charlotte: Because hearing you say that is one of the nicest things I've ever heard... And I've gotten about me. But...are you sure you want to be ロッテ:でも me thing カムイ:うん、全然、 大丈夫。 I am completely sure. I th ver BLANK] BLANK] Kamui: I think it'd be fun if I were you Everyday would be full of surprises 楽しそうだよ。 毎日が刺 あな て相当な変わリCharlotte You're some kind of a weirdo, Charlotte: Corrin I'm not entirely sure you know what? カムイ:かもね。でも、そっちの方がいいと思うKamui: Maybe I am. But I still think you're the よ。変わり者同士のカップルなら永遠に一緒に one for me. We can be weirdos in love who | Corrin: That could be true, hahah. But if so, isn't that a good thing? Two people, crazy and in love, could never tire of each other never get tired of each other, whaddya think? Thanks, Kamui. I'm nothing Charlotte: . You might be right. Thank you つつか者ですが、末永くよろしくお願いしま れは本音なんだからね! ally, but here's to a long life together. I-I'm Corrir カムイ:うん、 わかってるよ。 こちらこそ、 これ Kamui: Yeah, I get it. From me to you, here's to [BLANK]](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/001/091/828/0cc.png "Charlotte x Kamui significant S support alterations")
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