Bring Back National Dex - Tired of all the misinformation from both Gamefreak and Serebii at this point

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JustinP Member #3,190 Today at 12:51 AM Serebii said: So someone told me to check out the Famitsu interview again and Ohmori does say they had to redo the models from scratch. This makes sense due to different format and perhaps it being hard to port directly across Now this made me think back to the animations thing. Even if they were able to convert the models, they would need to re- Click to expand... Uhh, 3D models are very portable. There's standardized formats that can bake in both the mesh, rigs, and animations if you need a different format, you just export it to the different format from the source app (Maya, etc) - and yes you could even automate this process with a script to quickly convert thousands of assets. The idea you're suggesting that you have to remake a model from scratch or even re-rig the mesh to get it into a different engine is just bizarre. Like, what do you think happens to the rig and animations in Maya (or whatever app they working on SwSh? Disappear? No. use to author the assets) when they started Serebii said: And probably the shift from ARM architecture to the Switch probably had a factor in. one No, CPU architecture has nothing to do with models. Again, standardized formats you write an importer to import 3D assets like you would images, sound files, etc you don't reinvent a new 3D asset format every time you make a new engine just like you wouldn't reinvent jpg, png, tga, wav, these are ogg, mp3, etc. And for what changes CPU architecture did require (in engine code, mostly), they already had Switch experience with Go P/E - that was supposed to be the transition game. Maybe they did rebuild the models from scratch, but it would be a creative choice it wouldn't be mandated by all these reasons you try to give. And judging by the footage we've seen, I'm still skeptical. Take Gyrados for example even the model's topology looks identical. If they rebuilt that model for Switch, why leave in the low poly joints in the whiskers? If they were recreated from scratch, they were recreated to match the old model as close as possible... and I assume Game Freak is smart enough to not waste all that time recreating assets they already have. (can even see that the part where it starts to curl is a bit squished in both the 3DS model and the Switch model, suggesting they're using the same animations that deform the whiskers the same way it'd actually be quite a lot effort, an insane amount of work, really, to literally recreate the same model and animations from scratch and have them match up so closely instead of naturally having different proportions, topology, and animations) more Either way, the reasons you provide for why they'd have to re-rig models is nonsense. If all you claim was true, they would have had to redo all the models and animations for recreate or Pokemon Go as well. Serebii said: Are you an expert in development? Porting to different engines/devices does require existing stuff to get reworked. This is normal. Serebii said: One pet peeve of mine is people who don't have knowledge of the subject matter attacking developers for development. Hmm. Last edited: Today at 12:56 AM

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seacliff

Jul 14, 2019 at 12:10PM EDT

On a statement that doesn't require memes, I do actually have a couple of years of experience in 3D modeling/animation. Very far from a pro, probably even compared to this guy, but enough to know how the software and file formats work.

Simply put, it's really infuriating when people like Serebii are making heavy assumptions or subjects they know nothing about when I, personally, was the one who attended class two times a week on this very subject.

If I ever hear the words 'program animations' or similar shit again in defense to Game Freak, I think I'm going to lose it.

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