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The Co-Optional Podcast Ep. 47 Ft. JonTron Jesse Cok, Dodger, Jonlron and TotalBiscuit morglea: runescail: 1:17:30 F------ Watch this you f------ jackasses. This is JonTron and his response to all the f------ b------- everyone has been accusing him of. I get so f------ p----- off at all these posts pointing at him and screeching about how awful he is or some s---. F--- you. He outright admits he is fallible, and goes on to talk about this s---. He is not Femminist, he is Humanist, like I am. That means he wants equality for everyon any factor. But he thinks that some of these movements have gone too nd, which they have He's a no-b------- kind of guy, and this stuff has been pretty b------- for a whil now. So, would you kindly stop posting s--- about how he's digging his own grave or ow his career is ruined because someon e misinterpreted what he me Unfortunately, this isn't the BEST way to show off Jon's misinterpreted intentions. But that has more to do with a variety of things...primarily that Jon is reallynot that good at being put on the spot. He needs to sit and collect his thoughts in order to articulate. It's really clear by watching his face that he has a million things going on in his head at once and can't seem to unite his thoughts into a cohesive, articulataner. Frankly, it's not something anyone should be criticizing. Because someone struggles more with off-the-cuff discussion, they deserve to be berated and attacked? Yeah, f--- you. Not every single person in the world is on the same page and in line with your own ideologies and way of thinking, so sit the f--- down, shut the f--- up, and open your damn head up to the possibility of understanding a different perspective for once And what's an even bigger factor in this discussion is that Jon is CONSTANTLY put on the defensive. There's not a single moment where he actually can get a word in without CynicalBrit chiming in to point out a "tumblrism" or warn Jon that he's about to say something controversial. He's incessantly being rattled further and further as it's revealed to him that there is absolutely no room for discussion or criticism. Do you have any idea what this leaves himtotakaway? Because I'll tell you, it's not "Gee, I can see the point of everyone saying I was in the wrong. I'm sorry for offending people. It wasn't my intention, and I'll work harder to be a better representation of a human being on the Internet." Instead, what Jon has to take away from all of this is "Don't say words." Do you have any idea how f------ infuriating and counter-intuitive that is to this entire debacle? If we are constantly walking on eggshells about our words and worrying about accidentally offending people, we will never actually be able to have productive discussion about the changes we want to see in the world and people's behavior tumblr culture and ass-backwards sense of social justice on the Internet is how people are so f------ against using our f------ words. Instead of promoting an environment where people with triggers can open up and say "I am uncomfortable" and we can then, in turn, work on making that person comfortable when in direct contact with them, we spend all of this time bitching about how we shouldn't be saying these controversial things because it might upset someone. As someone who IS easily upset, I my anxiety to be around people who are trying too hard to not upset me. People who me make me more upset beca be with people who make me feel comfortable enough to say "Hey guys, I'm not really feeling up to discussing r--- right now. Could we talk about something else?" And the everybody in the conversation moves on while being completely understanding because the . The one thing I HATE about this ow much it wrecks akable flower just because I'm eoly sensitive only serve to ug And that's something I think Jon was trying to get across-that we NEED to be open discussion li act out from a place of emotion, then of course he's not going to be taking any criticism to ma ug we se e who even know him are attacking his character instead actions. If we all act from this stupid place of venting over hurt feelings, then of course nothing's going to change because everybody's going to shut down into their own little bubbles with all their walls put up s friend was saying, a lot of people were simply looking to get things off the catharsis purposes, but directing your emotional outbursts a brking him down into these hurtful labels that don't even apply to him, attacking his very identity rather than the actions and behaviors that were the cause of the problem in the first place..none of that is going to get anyone anywhere. And frankly. Jo we something, instead of remaining complacent about the situation, you should try being proactive and engaging yourself in open discussion about the issues. erstood. Yes, like Dodger's ight to say that need to just vent about our problems. Because if you're upset a I'm just f------ disgusted that this all even has to be said. I got so p----- off watching this podcast last night because I kept watching Jon get further and further pushed away from understanding because the others, primarily CynicalBrit, kept pointing out how every single thi Internet, of all places in the world, is not a place where peopl said was "controversial." The look s face as he started to process that the productive commu ation is heart-breaking because I feel that so f------ hard. And seriously - I want you to think about this for a good long while: The Internet a public, open forum that is practically global- is nota for civil discourse ople so adamant about applying our world's reality of violence, threats, and hate to this place where - for the first time in humanitys existence - we actually have the pportunity to open ourselves to communication urselves? hate that arguments are instantly shut down because someone's feelings are hurt. I hate that we have to choose labels for ourselves in order to qualify our opinions, and if we don't choose a label, we're immediately put in the category of the hate that this "us vs. them" mentality prevails so heavily throughout the Internet's brand of social justice. I hate that I don't want to post this because I don't want to get involved in this ordeal. Not because I don't want the discussion but because I don't want to deal with people acting out from this impulsive, emotional, self-righteous place of indignant outrage I shouldn't be scared of being attacked for just expressing opinions, but that's the sort of ssor" and "antagonist." althy and destructive environment that's prevailing here. So congratulations, Internet/Tumblr! Youve successfully created a place where people are discouraged from individual thought and opinion. I'm sure the hivemind would be proud.

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It's really all about approaching things in the appropriate manner.

It's actually rather staggering how some people will get full-blown serious and pick and choose their words carefully in regards to the idiots and "SJWs" of the internet. The very people with no logical rhyme or reason to their thought processes and will bitch simply for the sake of bitching. Especially in the places of the internet that well and truly cater to that way of thinking. That's not the kind of approach you should give, it's not the kind they deserve to have.

Put a stupid grin on your face and tell them what you think, be as laughably outrageous about it as you want. They get mad? Who the hell cares, I say. They'd get mad if you bent over backwards and let them ride your ass like Inmate Bubba. So long as you're not going overboard with overexaggerations, keeping things truthful to how you really think and feel, there isn't jack that's wrong with it.

Of course, if it was a very serious discussion with calm and collected people listening and joining in, that's when you'd want to get serious along with it. When those people have Earned. The. Right. to put you in that position.

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