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KYM Pony General VI: Return of the Poni

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Stern is much more a relic of the past compared to Tosh who (by comparison) is more influntial in the age demographic most of us are in. Not happy about it, but really, there's nothing we can do about it now (or really before hand either). Quite a bit of Tosh's comedy comes from being a jerk for comedic reasons, so this (unfortunately) doesn't surprise me.

Basically, all I can say is:

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In one way, I'm a little upset. Not many people IRL know about me being a brony, but I'm not super secret about hiding my power level, so to speak. I'd rather not people associate me with porn of My Little Pony (and it is idealistic to say that we shouldn't care what other people think.)

People outside of the Internet should know about Rule 34, even if they think it's sick people who enjoy it or if they generally believe that someone is producing it online or elsewhere. "There's a fetish for everything" kind of thinking.

But even if they know, there's a difference in being confronted by actual cartoon pony vagina on television and sorta knowing it's out there somewhere.
 
 
In another way…

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I honestly doubt that anything will come of this unless it spreads beyond 4chan. I mean, even the Howard Stern thing was barely a big deal at all in the long run.

I also highly doubt that any soccer mom that would care enough to try to bring Hasbro into this watches Tosh on a regular basis.

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Whoa, who showed what on the where-now?

How in the hell did he get away with that?
Comedy Central's censor must have fallen asleep on the job…

Honestly, I have no idea if this will go anywhere because I have no way of gauging the popularity of Tosh.0.
I have tried on multiple occasions to watch it and I just do not find him funny in the slightest.
Anytime his name is brought up, I see lots of people with the same opinion, too, so does anyone here have any idea about the size of his viewership?

On a related, but far less controversial note, the show The League on FX had a quick (literally six second) mention of bronies in one of its recent episodes.
I was technically a bit of an insult since bronyism was attributed to the character that is always being made fun of for his odd tastes, but it was still pretty funny to see.

(This is my own upload and it may get taken down.)
I was in the other room while my dad was watching the show and I did an audio double-take when that happened.
Even my dad (who likes to tease me a little about ponies) laughed and rewound the show just to watch it again.
It's happening, guys.
We're becoming…
gulp
MANESTREAM!

Crimson Locks wrote:

I honestly doubt that anything will come of this unless it spreads beyond 4chan. I mean, even the Howard Stern thing was barely a big deal at all in the long run.

I also highly doubt that any soccer mom that would care enough to try to bring Hasbro into this watches Tosh on a regular basis.

The problem is while nobody gives a fuck about Stern or "shock jocks" anymore, Tosh has a show that's watched by millions of people (best guess I could find was 2.184 million viewers) – in a prime time slot no less.

You remember how that one episode of "CSI" that basically destroyed any chance the furries had of a positive image in the public eye?

Imagine that, but about ten times worse.

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Windigo With Salad wrote:

The problem is while nobody gives a fuck about Stern or "shock jocks" anymore, Tosh has a show that's watched by millions of people (best guess I could find was 2.184 million viewers) – in a prime time slot no less.

You remember how that one episode of "CSI" that basically destroyed any chance the furries had of a positive image in the public eye?

Imagine that, but about ten times worse.

I am fully aware that this show is extremely popular, but the type of people that watch this show are the people that will laugh at this (or most likely be a little disgusted with it) and go "Wow, those bronies really are freaks!" but they most likely won't do much except throw petty insults online. The people who Hasbro cares the most about, the mothers of small children, will most likely not see this at all and it will all go over their heads. Even if there were angry complaints by mothers to Hasbro, the show would most likely still go on because Hasbro would claim no responsibility for the images on Tosh.0 because it was work made by fans not the people involved in creating the show

If we are talking about how we look to the public, well, when did we ever look good to the public? Seriously, most people hear the words "grown men (or women) who like My Little Pony" and they think "What the hell is wrong with those people?" without getting any further information. The fact that we are even worrying about having a reputation is ridiculous, because it really doesn't effect us in the end. No matter how much the world around us hates us, we will all still gather around in the threads and Pony themed websites and discuss pony because fuck the haters.

I know Tosh.0 is a very popular show. It's not radio, it's television, and it's been on the air for a long time now.

From what I'm gathering, he knows the Internet as well as anyone, but he presents it to those who know the Internet as far as email, Facebook, and YouTube.

I think it could "blow up" or "blow over," leaning towards "blowing over." Your main audience for Tosh.0 aren't soccer moms. They probably actually look a lot like us: young, white adults. So they might say bronies are freaks, but…we are sorta weird in the first place. I don't think they'll begin to take to the streets or anything.
 
On the other hand, Tosh.0 is popular enough to have fans outside of their target demographic. And instead of talking about cloppers on a radio show, Daniel Tosh showed Fluttershy bits on television and said where it came from (i.e., reddit's "clopclop.")

It could go in either way, but I don't think that bronies are going to be targeted in any meaningful way. It's not illegal for us to watch My Little Pony. We're technically good.

The worst thing that could happen is that Rule 34 (of any show for children) is cracked down on, because a few politicians' children or wives got proper wind of it. There's enough Apple Bloom R34 out there, and I don't think anyone can say that she is "of age."

I also think that most mainstream people would laugh in your face if you said "But they're not real people. They're cartoon horses!" as an legitimate argument. I think we all know that US legislation gets made for bad reasons all of the time for matters that are more important than a few people being able to enjoy odd porn.

Futhermore, if it gets really out of hand, then Hasbro might try to cut ties with the brony community. They'd want FiM to stay on the air. It's making a ton of money for them. But they may cut out all fan nods or clearances of voice actors/actresses to things like cons and stuff. (Remember that voice actors have to have permission to go to conventions on behalf of the show.) Might have an effect on SFW fan art. Who knows.
 
I don't really think it'll be all that bad, but I'm really interested in seeing where this goes.
 
 
 
In other news, Equestria Daily decided to take down its post on Tosh's shoutout.

Interesting.

My reaction:

>After watching the episode on YT.

Me: Daniel Tosh, what the heck, man?

Seriously, it's not funny anymore.
Not funny. We're in the (somewhat) red light.

Edit:
I learned today that Tosh likes us bronies.

My head hurts.
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Hmm, so cartoon porn airs on a comedy cable show? I'm sure the world will be very surprised

But the reaction from Bronies is far more interesting. While that Tosh.0 audience probably just thought "Eww", we're seeing some Bronies with rustled jimmies and spaghetti filled pockets preaching the end of the world

Or at least about 10% of the fandom is doing that. The other 90% of the fandom is just watching everyone else in the fandom waiting for the fandom to explode around them while the fandom waits for the rest of the fandom to explode around the fandom.

This is going to be like the Derpy shitstorm where most of the shitstorm was just people complaining about a supposed shitstorm. I.E: Making matters worse attempting to fix it

With that, I'd like to remind Bronies about the Streisand effect

If we start a shitstorm over this and try to retaliate against Tosh.0 (like what some /mlp/ posters were suggesting) or try to discuss/debate it on Reddit, we'll end up achieving the very thing we fear by bringing MLP porn even closer to the spotlight.

Then KYM would have to document the trend of Bronies panicking on reddit and EQD over Tosh's portrayal of R34 on the MLP page where everyone can see it

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Blue Screen (of Death) wrote:

Hmm, so cartoon porn airs on a comedy cable show? I'm sure the world will be very surprised

But the reaction from Bronies is far more interesting. While that Tosh.0 audience probably just thought "Eww", we're seeing some Bronies with rustled jimmies and spaghetti filled pockets preaching the end of the world

Or at least about 10% of the fandom is doing that. The other 90% of the fandom is just watching everyone else in the fandom waiting for the fandom to explode around them while the fandom waits for the rest of the fandom to explode around the fandom.

This is going to be like the Derpy shitstorm where most of the shitstorm was just people complaining about a supposed shitstorm. I.E: Making matters worse attempting to fix it

With that, I'd like to remind Bronies about the Streisand effect

If we start a shitstorm over this and try to retaliate against Tosh.0 (like what some /mlp/ posters were suggesting) or try to discuss/debate it on Reddit, we'll end up achieving the very thing we fear by bringing MLP porn even closer to the spotlight.

Then KYM would have to document the trend of Bronies panicking on reddit and EQD over Tosh's portrayal of R34 on the MLP page where everyone can see it

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Well, I'm not a hardcore brony, so mabye my opinion doesnt matter as much, but I don't give any fucks. It won't affect me at all and I can't say I care much about how people see bronies.

Yeah, I guess it isn't a big deal after all, if you think about it.
Oh well, I'll go back to the JFF section and check if anyone else has posted on the Tic-tac-toe thread.

(Can anyone tell me if Tosh actually likes us bronies or not?)

@Tosh
I have no freaking clue why anything regarding R34 is considered newsworthy.

I mean. Humans have the most screwed over mental systems of any imaginable sentient being. Every human in existence is likely to be screwed up 13 ways past Sunday.

Being attracted, sexually or not, to anything that is weird is pretty much the least of the ways humans are screwed up. And our awkwardness on how we approach issues of Sexuality and gender probably counts for half of our collective screwiness.

…I really hate having that point of view, but ever since I talked to a guy claiming to be homosexual, likes horror and dark stuff, and was turned on by slender man… who held that same view. Its hard not to see the point of said view.

…Excuse me I'm gonna need brain bleach now… We may all be screwed up by our collective screwed up parents, just like everyone else in this world… but some mental images just aren't made for sharing.

Yeah, I agree that by this point, R34 on the internet should be expected, but I just saw the segment in question…

And honestly, I felt pretty offended.

He essentially presents bronies as "grown men who search for lesbian horse pictures," to paraphrase. Guys, I really want to keep my cool and apply love and tolerance here, but… that really, really rustled my jimmies. For millions of people, he just lumped together all bronies as cloppers. Yeah, one still tells you some of the story, and I expect that most of it is an act, but to see him group everyone together as homosexual miniature horse fetishists and laugh about it…

I'm really uncomfortable with that, no matter who the core audience of his show is.

Twilitlord wrote:

Yeah, I agree that by this point, R34 on the internet should be expected, but I just saw the segment in question…

And honestly, I felt pretty offended.

He essentially presents bronies as "grown men who search for lesbian horse pictures," to paraphrase. Guys, I really want to keep my cool and apply love and tolerance here, but… that really, really rustled my jimmies. For millions of people, he just lumped together all bronies as cloppers. Yeah, one still tells you some of the story, and I expect that most of it is an act, but to see him group everyone together as homosexual miniature horse fetishists and laugh about it…

I'm really uncomfortable with that, no matter who the core audience of his show is.

I don't know if you guys have ever watched Tosh.0 or listened to his stand up, but this isn't exactly a big deal. It's like South Park, he makes fun of everybody, ev-er-ry-freak-in-body. Race jokes, nationality jokes, social group jokes, sexual orientation jokes, disability jokes, and yes fandom jokes. Really harsh jokes to I might add, but that's really the whole point. And more often then not the person he makes fun of the most is himself, it's not like he's picking on anybody.

Getting all rustled when the joke is directed at you for a change is just bad form. Satire exists to give people the opportunity to laugh at each other but also to laugh at themselves. The fact that R34 exists is incredibly laughable and more then a little disgusting, there's no way around that and there's no use denying that.

A single joke can't do long term damage to a community, it's our reactions that have any sort of impact. So you might as well laugh with with them instead of being laughed at.

Anyway, if they somehow managed to sneak some past the censors, they'll get some flack from the network for that. If that's the case the episode will either be censored heavily or they just wont air re-runs.

The video has already been removed from youtube. Shame, I was looking forward to the comment section to accumulate just so I can enjoy the chaos in there. Now how am I suppose to enjoy my evening?

>bringing up MLP in media
>bringing up uncensored r34 MLP in media
>implying soccermoms has a new excuse to call us pedos
>implying Tosh is an inexperienced internet fag

It's like Deja Vu all over again.

end result:

@Twilitlord
Don't get too offended by that, bro. Sure they hit us hard with the naughty pic and call us unpleasant names but hey, this kind of commotion is bound to happen from time to time. You can't expect a fandom to NOT have an adverse history in their time. Let alone exposed to the internet where opportunistic bastards just drop by and lay a bomb in the middle and the next thing you know is fire everywhere. And how do you deal with it? Just extinguish them. If you get caught by it, just stop, drop and roll. Suffer a few burns and treat your wounds and everything is back to the way it was. If you left a scar, you can show it to them how we deal with things. Besides, we had dealt with far worst obstacles than this idiotic media coverage.

@Tosh

I am leaving this site, see you guys. I don't want to have anything to do with this fandom anymore. Argh ponu is over, shut down everything, I am rage quitting…

Seriously have I heard of that guy before? – Wait he made those rape jokes, didn't he? So he is a jerk, likes to produce controversies and makes political incorrect jokes – big deal. It's Howard Stern all over again, but I am not sure what's worse: Showing uncensored pony porn or bronies explaining clopping. I guess that it will blow over and be forgotten next week.

So moving on!
Tv.com published a review about "Too many pinkies".
"One of the delights of "Too Many Pinkie Pies" was the existential crisis that it threw Pinkie into. Her eternally cheerful nature has demonstrated a certain fragility, whether it be not coping with her friends rejecting party invites in "Party of One" or not completely handling the youngsters Pumpkin Cake and Pound Cake in "Baby Cakes," and this has given the character a degree of depth that any other series might not. So when she began to question whether or not she was the real Pinkie Pie, it not only provided a way for us to keep track of her in the army of duplicates, it helped to demonstrate that Pinkie does have an internal world, a sense of identity"

>One of the delights was the existential crisis that it threw Pinkie into
>existential crisis

Perhaps I am the only one, but I was hoping to see Pinkamina return in this episode. We have seen a sad Pinkie before, but this was more than just saddness. She was rather depressed, her clones were annoying and her friends had to hide from them. Straight hair Pinkie would have been fitting and it would have rendered the stupid test unnecessary.
Just take a look at this gif:

I'm actually surprised it took this long for Tosh to diss bronies. But why should I be surprised, Daniel Tosh is generally one of the worst comedians out there today, next to Dane Cook.

And really, whoever watched Tosh.0 already knows about Bronies probably.

And frankly, is it really that much bigger than the Howard Stern or Jerry Springer things?

I recall for those two guys, even the VAs and staff on the show responded on twitter and the like but I'm just hearing about this now since Twitter is pretty much sole access to the internet right now :(

@WhittishCollar
I'm beginning to suspect that the Straight hair pinkie may not have been likely for a circumstance like this.

When it happened the first time, it looked kinda like a Balloon deflating. And what kind of mental state can be compared with Inflation/Deflation?

Ego. As in "over inflated ego".

When Pinkie went all straight hair, is wasn't just because she was sad. But rather she had a wounded sense of self worth. She thought everything she cared for was taken from her, and her very life's purpose was being insulted to the highest degree. She wasn't just sad. She felt Worthless!

Here, she's emotionally destroyed, but its not because of an attack on her ego. Its because she's sad that she might not be herself, that she might not get to stay with her friends, and that she has caused so much trouble.

It's kinda like comparing being stabbed in the leg by your best friend to having your Foot crushed by a heavy object you stumbled into. They both hurt like heck, but only one of them is guaranteed to make you bleed… and only one feels like a personal attack.

Verbose wrote:

Yeah, after more research…that totally happened. No shop, there are clips on YouTube (which will be taken down, because he showed actual naughty parts…didn't know he could do that…)
 
So yeah. This is a different beast than the domesticated cat that was Howard Stern at Bronycon.

But is it a chihuahua or a leopard?

This isn't the first time Tosh.0 showed nasty parts in his show, I remember some blurry images on TV about goatse level stuff (milder, but you get the point).

He only shows the actual nasty parts on his own site, on tv and Youtube these parts either get cut out or blurred to keep the show SFW.

Might be a clip or image that was able to slip through uncensored, these things happen, I wouldn't jump to conclusions just yet. Then again, he did worse, so who knows.

He also did this quite a while ago already:

So it's not like he's solely aiming at giving bronies a bad name. Currently most people here are more upset about the fact that MLP R34 got shown during his show, although it's more than normal on his side. I understand your anger, but you're overreacting it as well.

And even so, these shows run on giving fucking everything a bad name. What you people are doing here is demanding priveleges for bronies in his show. Yeah, good look with that, flawless tactic.

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I think that's jumping to a conclusion. I don't think you're speaking specifically to me, but I can understand why anyone would be upset. Just because someone is within their rights doesn't mean it's not going to have an effect on the target community.

I don't think (or at least I'd hope) that people here aren't wanting to stone Tosh or anything. We know what he does, and he's good at it. We didn't want him to show Fluttervag to the audience. He can, but it doesn't mean we have to find it funny just because we can't do anything about it.
 
As for the potential effect (which doesn't seem to be occurring,) like I said before, there's a difference between people having a sense of R34 existing and then showing it to an audience uncensored.

And the difference between the brony fandom and other fandoms is that the topic is a show specifically and historically for little girls. It might not be logical to differentiate it from furrydom or Rule 34 of other foci, but people (mainstream who might take offense to it) might see the "threat" as being more apparent than Mickey and Minnie Mouse gettin' it on.

The topic and the size of the fandom makes it different from Disney R34 or furry R34 or any R34. This is not a unsavory radio show in a dying radio industry. This is not a trashy reality show where everything is scripted and faked. This is a long-running, very popular show among a large demographic.

Either way, it doesn't seem like anything is happening. BSoD seemed to hit the nail on the head: most of us (me included) are waiting for something to happen, because we like rubbernecking/enjoying watching the fandom develop and change.


Also, that image was shopped, apparently. It's from this:

The topic and the size of the fandom makes it different from Disney R34 or furry R34 or any R34. This is not a unsavory radio show in a dying radio industry. This is not a trashy reality show where everything is scripted and faked. This is a long-running, very popular show among a large demographic.

It's interesting you should say that.

Rush Limbaugh frequently dwarfed Glenn Beck's Fox news viewer ship as did Howard Stern (I don't know his ratings since he left for that satellite radio channel).

Tosh.0 has a large audience but I think we're overestimating its significance and size.

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As Gigatoast said, getting mad or being surprised by this is rather silly because this is the thing that Tosh does. This is what he is paid to do and this is why millions of viewers watch him each week. Hell, he's shown worse than pony vag on his show. Maybe it's because I used to watch the show, but when I saw the clip all I felt was "meh". Really, I just wish he'd actually thought up a real joke about the whole thing rather than "Hey, bronies like lesbian pony porn! And I'm gonna show it on national television because I'm hardcore! HAHAHAHAHA!"

This makes me think though: It's only a matter of time before South Park makes a joke about bronies, are we going to freak out and act like the fandom is over again? Or are we going to realize that it frikin South Park and they make fun of anything that moves?

Somehow, it's not the fact that he made fun of bronies that's the issue to me.

It's the fact he showed…uncensored…porn…and got away with it that's the issue.

How the fuck did CC botch this up?

Daft Punkjet wrote:

Somehow, it's not the fact that he made fun of bronies that's the issue to me.

It's the fact he showed…uncensored…porn…and got away with it that's the issue.

How the fuck did CC botch this up?

Bing, bing bing.

We have a winner.

I'm not sure where exactly I lie on the position of uncensored porn… or porn in general.

However, I'm pretty sure it's a good idea to not show it during a show that is not expressively related to porn in some way. Because regardless of the moral or ethical points, people can get squicked easily. Getting them squicked makes ratings suffer. Letting the ratings suffer is bad for profit.

In other-words, him showing… you know… on television, pretty much is the kind of thing that comes across as a bad idea. Not for ethical/moral reasons; but just because its incredibly stupid.

And now for Celestia with the reaction one would expect from an average viewer… just cause I haven't said "Pony" in this post yet until just now.

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I totally agree that it's not a big deal. I honestly didn't think it was aimed at the entire brony community, more specifically those who use Reddit for images like that.

I am, however, the tiniest bit rustled that he would air that kind of thing uncensored. That's gonna produce more than a couple of letters, I predict.

Also, I don't think that most bronies give a fuck anymore what those outside the fandom think of them. If any still do, they shouldn't.

Man, oh man, I can see South Park dedicating an entire episode to bronies. I can just see them having a field day with it. And if/when something like that happens, I'll laugh about it, and likely see how the MLP fandom reacts, forgetting that it's South Park.

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Daft Punkjet wrote:

Somehow, it's not the fact that he made fun of bronies that's the issue to me.

It's the fact he showed…uncensored…porn…and got away with it that's the issue.

How the fuck did CC botch this up?

Sounds like somebody's jealous…

(Honestly, I almost want these controversial things to happen on occasion just to see the hilarious reaction art that they spawn. Recall the riffing artists did with the Lyra plushie.)

But yeah, the slip-up by the censor is what really needs to be checked into in this case, though as with anything, stuff goes wrong from time to time.
For whatever reason, they screwed up in this instance and transmitted uncensored porn over the airwaves.

As for Tosh himself, I'm with Crimson in a way.
I don't find him funny at all and this 'joke' wasn't even a joke.
It was basically along the lines of "Hey, look at those weirdos! Aren't they weird? Let's laugh at them because they are weird!"
From what I've seen of his show, that's pretty much par for the course, but it doesn't make it any funnier.

All that said, this is unlikely to go anywhere of any significance.
Just stop giving it attention and it will blow over almost immediately.

NEW EPISODE ON SATURDAY!!!
WOO!!!

@South Park
Last summer (between seasons 1 & 2) there was a big rumor that South Park was going to do a brony episode.
Obviously, it never happened, but the ways people reacted were pretty mixed.
In my opinion, I'd actually love to see their take on it.
I've always found that, despite the crudeness and vulgarity, the South Park team does tend to be relatively even-handed in the end.
They would definitely make jokes against us, but considering our community's many prominent positive aspects, I can't see them being completely one-sided in their approach.
It would be interesting to say the least.
Just remember that DHX is in Vancouver so all the ponies are technically Canadian.

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Tsk. Really, Tosh? Really? No further comment.

@South Park
This is the kind of thing that I would love to hate to see happen. I'll admit, I always watch new episodes of South Park, so it's not that I'm against the show (or even against ponies being on it for that matter), I'm just afraid of the fan response. I have a bad feeling that bronies on South Park might accidentally the entire internet. But hey, it could be entertaining if it turns out that Cartman was secretly a brony!

@Canadian Ponies
It's true, we all look like that, and spontaneous musical numbers are as common as Tim Horton's donuts…

Now that I think of it, what would one of the ponies even look like on South Park? I doubt they'd make them "Canadian" like that.

I've watched a few Tosh.0 episodes before.
My mind is now scarred FOREVER.

Seriously, considering all the terrible crap he puts on the show, this is nothing new.

@Photoshopped image of Tosh with message

There is no telling which picture is the original or not (although the 2nd picture looks pretty legitimate).
So let's keep it here and leave it as a "mystery".

@DeadParrot:

Wow, how'd you get that image so fast? Your witchcraft has not diminished in my absence I see.

Oh btw, I was checking some other pony sites (mainly just /mlp/ and reddit ponu) and it seems most people are pretty much keeping a cool head over this matter.

Not only are we making a big deal out of nothing (Tosh) but making a big deal about another nothing (the fear that bronies will over react)

Oh, that's no fun, phoneix.

(And besides, we're not /mlp/ or reddit. That's why I post here instead of there. We don't have to act like other hubs, to our merit or detriment. And we haven't done anything except discuss what went on.)
 
I don't see why people think we're overreacting or why we have to pretend like it's nothing.

I think it's obvious that there are potential harms to the fandom to consider, and I think it's just as obvious that they aren't likely to happen.

I think it's apparent that no one wants Daniel Tosh's head and we're aware of his brand of humor, and I think it's apparent that cartoon naughty bits are unprecedented.
 
 
It's a development in the fandom. It's more than the Tony Kornheiser mention on the ESPN show Pardon the Interruption. It's more than the Howard Stern mention. We talk about those things, so why not talk about this? It's not like Fluttershy (or any cartoon) is shown being explicit on cable television. It's a first. It's interesting.

Heck, I find it more interesting than discussing philosophy in a show where the writers did not likely consider philosophical undertones when writing the episode.
 
We're not raging about it (and if we did, we've calmed down)

So…Why wouldn't we talk about it? We talk about everything else. I think that people are actually trying to make nothing out of something instead of making something out of nothing. It's not the end of the fandom more than likely, but this is new. It's different from Stern, FOX, and Springer.

Why can't I talk about it? Why do I have to play it cool if I'm not sending out a death threat or anything? People aren't coming to this thread (or /mlp/ or reddit or wherever) to figure out if it's a big deal or not.

It's just talk, it is.


EDIT: My posts are becoming more and more redundant.

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@Crimson Locks: I've been waiting for that to happen…I was confident they would spoof bronies this half season, but it never happened…instead they wasted one episode on Hawaiian resorts, which probably was the worst episode this season.

I didn't say we shouldn't talk about it either :P

But what I'm saying is that we should all be leaning heavily towards the "blowing over" scenario.

When I first saw the notice that tosh put some pony porn, it sounded serious. I only have 500MBs of data per week because my internet is out but from what I gather, it was barely 20 seconds of reddit related jokes. I thought it was a full expose like Springer.

And for the record, the same 500MB limit means I just tend to read the last page of the thread. So I don't know how long we've been discussing this.

@South Park

I'd prefer not to see a South Park episode done on us because South Park has, you know, kind of sucked for the past 4 seasons or so. What might be interesting is if South Park decided to actually make an episode of mlp using their signature art style and humor. I imagine it'd be something like what hotdiggitydemon does except with just a little more tact, a little.

Verbose wrote:

It’s a development in the fandom. It’s more than the Tony Kornheiser mention on the ESPN show Pardon the Interruption. It’s more than the Howard Stern mention. We talk about those things, so why not talk about this? It’s not like Fluttershy (or any cartoon) is shown being explicit on cable television. It’s a first. It’s interesting.

So…Why wouldn’t we talk about it? We talk about everything else. I think that people are actually trying to make nothing out of something instead of making something out of nothing. It’s not the end of the fandom more than likely, but this is new. It’s different from Stern, FOX, and Springer.

Hate to spoil your fun like Phoneix did Verbose, but I never actually cared about Tony Kornheiser or Howard Stern's mentions, not even all the Fox business or those Springer "bronies".

Fandoms are fandoms, and we'll always manage to creep out those that are inexperienced with it. Anime conventions and cosplay still receive weird looks by the mainstream at times, it'll be difficult to expect bronies will be accepted based on that.

Perhaps the fandom is finally learning to grow up, one can only hope. It also might be the absence of the initial large quantities of rage and butthurt. The first reactions this time were calmer, so those that hopped on later were calmer as well. All these previous cases started with drama and "fandom ruined har har".

Remember how the Lyra Plushie started? Large amounts of drama, end of the fandom and all that stuff. When the artists and others started to make fun of it, even the biggest drama queens were able to lol at the plush. Same for various discussions we had in this thread, the recent Derpy one being a good example. That poster added drama for nothing to the whole situation, but after multiple of us showed it's no big deal and explained why, he was able to calm down as well.

That is simply what is happening now. The first reactions were calmer, so the second wave had less rage to follow on. It's the very simple Bandwagon effect.


Bat Swag wrote:

I think my brothers a brony. What should I do?

Make sure he thinks Pinkie Pie is best pone, otherwise it's best to just gun him down.

Fiddle with my Diddle wrote:

I think my brothers a brony. What should I do?

Do a backflip

Oh btw what is this Tosh.0 thingy? What is so bad about Tosh.0? Can someone explain?

Oh boy. Oooooh boy. OOOOOOOHHH boy. I see Tosh getting some flak from bronies soon. Of course, it’ll (hopefully) be polite, clarifying flak from non-cloppers explaining how it’s not most bronies’ point of view of the fandom.
By what I understand, though, it was completely uncensored and not explicitly pointed out by Tosh. If anything, it’ll start out as outrage for that; after all even cable, even Comedy Central, has standards that it has to keep. (Verbose, you ninja’d me, but the FCC can still control things like that on cable.) It’ll start as outrage against uncensored porn… And, naturally, turn into “broneis look at teh pr0n of teh ponis”. Aaand mainstream attention will come in the worst way possible.
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@South Park
"MFFFPHUGGGMPFFTHH!"

Oh, that's a great idea for an episode, Pinkie!
I'm not sure you can say that on TV, though.
(And if you are going to wear that sweater, you should probably be very cautious when your tail starts twitching.)

@Tosh
I say that we should absolutely be free to discuss the topic, or any topic really, so long as the discussion stays rational and civil.
I would rather encourage someone to divulge their worries over the situation so that we may dispel them over telling them to keep those worries to themselves to fester quietly.
Plus, it's just interesting to hear everyone's take on it.
No one here seems to be 'freaking out' so I'd say we have a nice little conversation going.

@Alex
Daniel Tosh is a comedian who has a show on Comedy Central (TV channel) called Tosh.0.
His show essentially revolves around making fun of people on the internet (Youtube videos, message boards, etc.)
I've said before that I don't find him funny at all, but he apparently has a somewhat significant fanbase.
Anyway, he did a 20 segment mocking bronies on Reddit wherein he showed uncensored MLP porn on the air.
(You can probably look around a bit and find it if you really want to.)
The whole thing is pretty silly, though, so don't worry about it too much.

@Bat Swag
There is only one answer:

But seriously, I assume you are looking for a subtle way to confirm it?
Just start dropping hints from time to time.
Maybe try answering 'yes or no' questions with 'Eeyup' and 'NNope' for a while and see if he reacts.

@Fifths
That car must have been out for a while now because it already has art.

Something about Pinkie Pie at the wheel of a motorized death-machine is just terrifying.

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Daft Punkjet wrote:

Somehow, it's not the fact that he made fun of bronies that's the issue to me.

It's the fact he showed…uncensored…porn…and got away with it that's the issue.

How the fuck did CC botch this up?

ya that was odd was the FCC on break or something

@Pinkie Car
Now there come questions… How long has equestria had cars? 2 hours?
Are there other modern vehicles?
Can we expect that Scootaloo really will ride a motor-cycle when she's older?
How long will it take before the rest of equestria catches on to use cars instead of carts?

Anachronisms ahoy! It's a great big stew now!

Skeletor-sm

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