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As long as it can be justified in-universe I can go with it. Really, any justification will work as long as it doesn’t conflict with anything else we know from the show.

We may have something!
 
So by this, if someone can show why Twilight survived multiple objects falling from the sky but was afraid to fall into swamp water (apparently for fear of her life and not getting dirty like Rarity,) then that would make those moments more tolerable.
 
Being a fan of both, I can't imagine there to be as many plotholes (I said plotholes…) in Zelda. Each game's story has been worked on for years, but the plot and scenes would probably only last as long as a 2-hour movie. Writers for FiM probably only have a few weeks to come up with an episode, and to be honest, they probably aren't putting a lot of effort into consistencies for a show targeted at young girls, because most of them won't care. (Simply, Zelda and FiM are different.)
 
 

But there are a lot of things we'd have to explain off. And since Nintendork notices these things, he could probably point out a ton of things that just can't be explained in-universe.

I'll try to explain certain points, if you'd like, but I don't know if I'll be able to do it for everything. We generally dismiss everything like that with a "It's magic. I ain't gotta explain shit." macro or that Mr. Bean video.

And doggone-it, I will will frown with the intensity of a thousand suns if someone posts that Mr. Bean link…

@Daniel and dac

Oh, it doesn't bother me. I just overlook it. I think the thing is that the physics aren't consistent, and that's what bothers Nintendork.

Piano falls on head=Twilight fine.
Twilight falls into water-Twilight afraid of death.

So there has to be a decent explanation for it. For ^ that situation above, there really isn't. And stuff like that bothers Nintendork.

If only because I love you guys.

Im Ok with however Nintendork69 thinks, but I just can't wrap my head around it really.
@Nintendork Its like you are missing an integral part of entertainment, escapism. You shouldn't be concerned about reality. I couldn't imagine Looney tunes being as funny if they weren't the way they were. Like in this one. Sure, they can't really die according to this, but the fact the still fear it doesn't make it unrealistic and unwatchable. It makes it funny.

"So by this, if someone can show why Twilight survived multiple objects falling from the sky but was afraid to fall into swamp water (apparently for fear of her life and not getting dirty like Rarity,) then that would make those moments more tolerable."
Exactly. I can't be expected to believe two mutually exclusive ideas.
Verbose, I think you've got it nailed to a T (or whatever that expression is). You really get what I'm saying, and I'm glad you can see my problem, even if you can't relate to it.
Yes, cartoons are supposed to allow you to escape, but when this kind of thing happens, it feels like it punches me back into the reality I'm watching from.
I know I shouldn't be making a big deal of this, but it just irks me, and expands to more than just ponies. Sorry if I come across as nit-picky, but you guys are saying I am, then guess that's what I am.

@Verbose

Youtube> "the answer to every question in the universe" > share > embed > cop-

@nintendork
Well, nice to see you gave the show a shot, and then criticized it based on what you saw. Now as far as the whole suspension of disbelief, if you happen to have little, well that's just you. Nothing wrong with being a little nitpicky. Someone could like the show, even though certain aspects are annoying. Likewise one could simply dislike the show. Not everyone has to like everything.
(But if you really want in universe justification, many fans will analyze anything to oblivion and back until it makes sense.)

Verbose wrote:

So by this, if someone can show why Twilight survived multiple objects falling from the sky but was afraid to fall into swamp water (apparently for fear of her life and not getting dirty like Rarity,) then that would make those moments more tolerable.

Being a fan of both, I can’t imagine there to be as many plotholes (I said plotholes…) in Zelda. Each game’s story has been worked on for years, but the plot and scenes would probably only last as long as a 2-hour movie. Writers for FiM probably only have a few weeks to come up with an episode, and to be honest, they probably aren’t putting a lot of effort into consistencies for a show targeted at young girls, because most of them won’t care. (Simply, Zelda and FiM are different.)

Well FiM is bound by cartoon physics, the tone of the scene reflects the realism of the world. So when it's played up for laughs characters can survive anything, but in a more action-y or dramatic moment the world is more realistic. Plus there where sharp rocks at the bottom of that gorge, a character sustaining head injury is slightly more kid-friendly then being impaled.

Furthermore I wasn't aware Zelda games had enough of a plot to have many plot holes in the first place, they've all been retelling a single story that frankly wasn't much more complex then a Mario game's story. The best parts of a Zelda game's plots are in the characters that make them up, not so much Link/Zelda/Ganon, but the peripheral characters that Nintendo has the balls to make interesting and unique.

Twilight Princess had my favorite character in the Zelda universe, Midna. She was conniving, deceptive, and under went and actual character ark. Fi from Skyward Sword is pretty creative too, if only because she's basically a robot. And wow, I've gone off on kind of a tangent haven't I?

Anyway, if Nintendork is still using that "too many plot holes" excuse, I could point out a few equally nitpicky complaints about Zelda. Like how come like will take massive damage falling off a mountain onto the path below, but if he falls into lava he teleports back into ledge virtually unharmed?

Or how come Majora's mask goes literally off the deep end once you enter the water area? Talking beavers, musical note shaped zora-babies, a mother-bucking aquatic rock band? Compared to some of the s**t that goes on in your average Zelda game MLP's continuity looks like Lord of the Rings.

And don't even try and think I'm attacking Zelda, I love Zelda, but you gotta admit it's really friggin' goofy. Man, it's been a while since I had a good old fashioned TL;DR kick, all that pent up talkativeness can't be good for anyone.

Well you have a point, I guess I can suspend disbelief for Zelda because… Well because for games, the canon is ambigous. There are a number of plot points along the way, but all the gameplay in between could take any possible route. Also, with games, due to space limits, The world is really really small compared to earth, so I often consider it a "retelling" of sorts, rather than what "really" happens. It is a legend, after all.

Well, that can't be helped. I don't think anyone's blaming you or anything, but it's certainly hard to (for lack of a better word,) "fix."

The two things I could suggest is asking for someone to explain each situation (we probably couldn't figure it out most of the time though,) or just exposing yourself to situations like that over and over again. A crash course of what most of us had from childhood, if you will.

Most fans are probably accustomed to this sort of thing, so if you really want to watch the show, I think you'll have to continuously expose yourself to other cartoons/shows/game with in-universe inconsistencies.

Maybe some artz would be nice (for everyone)? Don't feel bad about it, Nintendork64.

I just agree completely with dac-attack!!! on this. To say you can't wrap your head around it, I can't wrap my head around that statement. Are you on KYM solely for MLP or is there something else that drew you here? Because I would suggest you lurk more. This is the type of site where people will bust your balls for saying stupid shit. Now granted most bronies try to tolerate but there is still certain rules of the internet that will apply here, Rule 11, 12, 13 for instance.

No, I'm not here for the ponies at all, I'm here for the memes, which is why I got so frustrated: from a non-brony's perspective, they forced their way into the site and those who didn't like them got left behind.
I mean, imagine if the site suddenly became flooded with Justin Beiber fans? Wouldn't that be frusterating?
Anyway, sorry for making you guys put up with my, er, nitpicking, and I think I needed to get some of that off my chest as well. Thanks for the love and toleration, I guess? I'm going to leave now, and you can go back to posting… Whatever it is you normally post.
I suppose I haven't said a positive thing about MLP, have I?
The animation is really damn good!
Okay, I think I'll leave on that note.

Huh, so the way you figure each Zelda game is literally a retelling of the same story, and though details, both minor and really frikin' major, may change it's still the same story…

That… is actually pretty genius, I'm not sure if it's Nintendo's intention or not since they recycle all their franchises like that, but that would justify all the repetition in the series which was one of my biggest peeves about it. Thanks! That actually changed my outlook on the whole franchise.

But anyway, back to the point, I can't help but feel this whole "plot hole" excuse is, well, just an excuse. It's just waaaaaaaaaaaay too nitpicky to be feasible, if you can't forgive a bit of slapstick in a cartoon that's continuity is actually quite solid then I can't see you also being a fan of any video game that isn't on the same level of realism as Battlefield 3 with all the graphic settings turned to max.

It just seems like you're looking for the slightest thing to complain about, not because you don't like the show, but because you don't want to like it. The further you go to deny it, the less believable the opinion you present us with is.

Alright who the fuck downvoted me for that statement? I said worse than than that and got an upvote.
Edit: it's been fixed but still who is going vote crazy? looking toward Verbose since I've seen you downvote before for things.

Yeh I know, the only thing more infuriating then a thumbs system is a thumbs system that keeps score. I can tell you that friggin' thing has been the cause of more of my freak-outs on this site then I care to mention.

Okay so… some things to state. The downvoting was obvious. And Verbose only downvotes pointless posts like "lol" "hey everyone" "tl;dr" etc. As long as you have substance to your posts he won't downvote it.

@Nintendork:

I hope we were of some help, in all honesty. As for the whole "invaded the site" thing. I've always hated that statement. We didn't just wake up one morning and say "HEY! THAT SITE IS PONY FREE! LET'S GO TAKE OVER!". No, we've been here for a while. Many of us for a long while. We've just decided to come out for our own reasons.

I don't like to use downvote unless someone is really being a dick. I'm not being a real dick. But I can be.

Edit: I'm one of the few that was here before and still here. There never was an invasion.

Sorry, I don't know what I was thinking, actually…
Looking at it, that's statement's pretty innocuous. I'm sorry. I might just be tired or something…
Here, downvote one of my posts, you have my permission.

And by that, I mean, I really don't know. Man, things got weird here in a hurry.

EDIT: Corrected for lack of horn.

One day til new episode. Spike's leaving and never coming back. Cry about it. Cry. He's leaving us.

Sorry bro I shouldn't accuse either.

Yes, he's leaving forever, never coming back… I can see the ending twist coming a mile away and the episode hasn't started yet. But unless they hired M Night Shyamalan as a new FiM writer I'm never really expecting the show to surprise me.

The ending of "Sisterhooves Social" kinda threw me though, I'm not sure why I didn't see it coming.

Also, where the hell is Twilight's horn?'

EDIT: Sneaky bastard.

Oh god no. If M Night Shyamalan wrote the episode things would go horribly bad. Spike would probably turn out to be some alien race of lizards. All the ponies would probably be normal horses who mutated from algae. And Equestria would be the remains of the earth after mankind lost the war against Spikes' people.

Hey! You've been reading my fanfiction!

Okay. I'm actually splitting my sides laughing right now. I tried to make it sound as bad as I could. And I still think it sounds better than M Night Shyamalans' movies.

Actually the first thread was dead for months then a few people started posting again. Most of the activity was on the MLP entry but it never was like an invasion like everyone likes to say. We just have a few haters here that for whatever reason want to start shit every time a pony is posted outside of this thread. Even though the mods are OK with us posting pony pics wherever we want.

Yeah, I remember the first thread. It just makes me irate how people will always complain. "Too much activity on the article", so we move to the forums (there was a big argument about that, I made my account to quell the anger on both sides). After we move to the forums it's suddenly "Too much activity in the thread". I mean, FUCKING DEAL WITH IT. QUIT CRYING AND LIVE AND LET LIVE. But yeah, I think you see where I'm coming from.

They did the same thing with Weeaboo hate, pokemon hate, and furry hate too though. So I just say fuck it. If they want to be dicks be a dick back. As long as you aren't breaking any rules it's cool.

I remember you mentioning a while ago that all other fandoms got the same treatment. My approach to it all is more restrained. I tend to try and be the peacekeeper in all situations, no matter how much I disagree with a side.

Edit: My views on any opposition is: Try and keep the peace, maybe an agreement can be reached. If my side refuses to budge, call them out on it and force them to negotiate. If the opposite side refuses to budge, all bets are off. Bomb them to hell (metaphorically and/or physically. Which is why I could never lead an army.)

Pokemon is the best example. There is tons of stuff out there on it; Rule34, image macros, videos, there was tons of sites that talked about it for years and of course there was haters. You know when "I heard you leik mudkips" came about people hated it. Now it's a joke.

@Daniel

Unforgiveable. (Actually, no need to apologize. I am the most likely to downvote stuff. It was a logical conclusion.)

And yeah. I think it's weak that you get buried for posting Pony outside of the thread. It'd be similar to posting a Forever Alone image and it getting buried. But unlike trying to keep the peace or throwing down, I just avoid it and do as the vocal objectors say. I don't have to post pony, so if they'd rather not see, I don't have to use it.
 
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Unrelated (mostly): One of my KYM goals is to get madcat to friend me even though he does not friend Bronies.

how i do dis hes so fluufy and mad and i jus want him to liek me

Suppose I could start following him. It's not particularly high on my KYM priority list (gifts' thread, article upkeep, making a statue for Kalmo, getting madcat to friend me,) so I ain't stressin' it.

I guess MLP will be just like Pokemon then. In a few years people will move on and we'll only speak of it if it ever comes back up.

And Verbose: Don't lose hope. I was always kind of hoping that RapturJesus would lighten up and not be hated by everyone. Lately, that seems to be happening. So maybe a friendship with madcat isn't so farfetched.

I stare him down with this if not.

Does anyone have a word to explain this expression? I don't view much art but this is the most vague but expressive…expression that I've ever seen. Perhaps including real life. I just can't give it a word. They all contradict each other.

Perhaps I should take that stray facial action unit training I had and try to break it down.

madcat actually seems to be a pretty cool guy (and hes fluufy and mad). I don't lose sleep over it one way or another. And I'm glad rapturjesus is getting along better too. I just think he's plain funny and has good insight when he wants to use it.

In fact, his Ask thread may have more posts (with actual, legit questions) than some of the mods. I don't think I could pull that off.

Eat ALL the cookies!

and about rapturjesus, I lol'd when I asked him why he never trolls me back and he didn't answer. I see what he did there and I will say he is kinda funny sometimes.

And about haters, I generally enjoy troll antics. Sometimes I lightly counter troll for the lulz. I make it pretty obvious though so I wouldn't say I'm any good at it. I just like getting a piece of the internet action, I guess.

Oh Celestia, an argument on the believability and physics of a cartoon… Find someway you can look at it without caring, for teh lulz for example. I hope you can find some way to enjoy it.

The one thing that I don't like people saying is that we forced our way into the site. This site is for memes and meme discussion. There's no reason all other memes deserve to be here but ponies and bronies don't. I admit we should post ponies where it isn't nessicary, but that's just trolling. As for the ponification of memes, memes evolve and merge, they are just doing what they are supposed to do.

TL;DR Now time for school and video games. Bai

This is whats going to happen tomorrow, I actually shed a tear when I first watched this.
I remember that music from hey arnold, When he was dreaming about his parents.

crys (i really started to cry after watching that) tomorrow's episode is gonna be sad…

I like the art style. You don't see that many impressionists on the internet.

There is no excuse for spike not to walk around terrorizing pony with rarity in his hand. I expect at least some homage to king kong.
Not Godzilla though, because what are they gonna do? Have king gidora appear out of nowhere?
Actually, The Hydra could work now that I think about it. They could even have the Asian spa ponies screaming and pointing at spikezilla I guess. but still, I see King Kong as a better option

Yes i see king kong as a better one to although he may look like godzilla a bit i still think King kong would be better

I swear to god if spike leaves the show for ever I will write him a 15 minute requiem composed for an accordion and clarinet duet. with a harmonica solo. That's how much I care.

Also do a solo on a vuvuzela. Already have the sheet music ready.

@badsitrep
That's brilliant! I'm not sure I'm skilled enough to master the art of the vuvuzela though.

Well it seems your posting alot today Sandwich

Well seeing how they had to boot that red dragon out for nearly suffocating Ponyville with smoke, I kinda wondered if they'd have to deal with Spike in the same way eventually because he breathes fire, too. You could assume only bigger dragons do, or Spike just doesn't because his fire is magic or something. Or maybe only bigger dragons breathe enough to cause a problem. whatever.

But even though that's not going to be the issue in the new episode I really doubt they'll write Spike out of the show.

…

Atleast I hope not because sometimes he's eh pretty cool guy.

I suppose I'm just in a talkative mood

@Iamslow
Well if they do give spike the boot, I'm going to have to invest a lot of money in instruments and a lot of time in learning them and writing music.

EDIT: My first page get! It Un-happened!