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KYM Pony General IV: Electric Scootaloo

Last posted Feb 19, 2012 at 11:26PM EST. Added Dec 15, 2011 at 11:43AM EST
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Gigatoast wrote:

This… sort of.

George Lucas was given 100% of the credit for the Star Wars franchise but without the rest of the team behind the first 3 movies he's single-handedly turned the series into a joke. Lauren is a very talented individual but she does not deserve full credit for the show, no single person deserves full credit for any team effort.

Consider this, Lauren Faust technically didn't create PowerPuff Girls or Foster's Home, they where both conceived by her husband. It was a collaborative effort getting them both off the ground, and the same is true of FiM.

On the other hand, the internet (and society in general) loves to elect poster boys, people you can personally thank or blame for a series, like how people yell at Gabe Newell when a buggy TF2 patch comes out. If you honestly think the intention is to lay all the responsibility on a single person you're taking it too literally.

Also, Fluttershy is SO not one-dimentional. Nyx is one-dymentional, old Luna is one-dymentional. Fluttershy is so much better then that.

Yes, that's sadly right. The true father or mother of a work is the one who first had the idea of making it. And as we all know, it was Hasbro's idea of remaking the MLP franchise, not Faust. She was just hired to produce it and got super involved on it, but it wasn't she who single handedly thought of the characters, the songs, did the animation and the voicework (and the plot of course, how can we forget the plot?).

So yes, we really give her all this hype.

And Page GET!

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Sure looks a lot like it. I showed my non-Brony friend all the grimdark, parodies, and gore I could find on YouTube, and he couldn't stop laughing. Not enough to turn him, though.
And Gigs, good choice. But if you're going for that song, search for the full version. I prefer that, but this one's good too.

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Dr. Gregory Horse The Pony Medic wrote:

Yes, that's sadly right. The true father or mother of a work is the one who first had the idea of making it. And as we all know, it was Hasbro's idea of remaking the MLP franchise, not Faust. She was just hired to produce it and got super involved on it, but it wasn't she who single handedly thought of the characters, the songs, did the animation and the voicework (and the plot of course, how can we forget the plot?).

So yes, we really give her all this hype.

And Page GET!

Let's ponify Hasbro then. After they make the Celestia figurines white instead of pink.

I said it once, and I'll say it again: Hasbro, THIS IS NOT TRANSFORMERS. You don't have a fandom that's divided over several forms of media, where some things you release are targeted at specific parts of it. This is a show whose fandom is primarily WAY out of your target audience, and the target mostly doesn't pay attention to it. We're old enough to tell the difference between what you're trying to pull and what's supposed to happen.

Sunhammer wrote:

Sure looks a lot like it. I showed my non-Brony friend all the grimdark, parodies, and gore I could find on YouTube, and he couldn't stop laughing. Not enough to turn him, though.
And Gigs, good choice. But if you're going for that song, search for the full version. I prefer that, but this one's good too.

My friend caught the climax of "Feeling Pinkie Keen" and was indoctrinated like snap that. If your friend just doesn't like kid-friendly cartoons I doubt it would be very easy to convert him, all that grimdark could give him the wrong idea of the fandom.

Not that I have a problem with grimdark or parodies, every fandom needs to take the piss out of itself sometimes, otherwise things can get pretty… fanboyish. But if you only show someone the ironic stuff they'll think people only like the show ironically.

Well, I told him that even for a kid's show, there are always going to be the parts that are a little wierd. So he enjoyed the parts obout the show that most of us fear to tread. Anyway, he already has a Brony friend other thn me(non-closet too boot), so he has a pretty good idea of what we're like. Only problem is, the other Brony hates me, so I can't very well reveal myself.

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I never realized how much bass my little computer speakers can produce until right now. SO MUCH DUBSTEP


lolsolarflare

Also, anypony know where to download the replica of Equestria in minecraft? I really want NEED IT! RIGH' NOW!!

Sunhammer wrote:

Well, I told him that even for a kid's show, there are always going to be the parts that are a little wierd. So he enjoyed the parts obout the show that most of us fear to tread. Anyway, he already has a Brony friend other thn me(non-closet too boot), so he has a pretty good idea of what we're like. Only problem is, the other Brony hates me, so I can't very well reveal myself.

Hate?? From a brony?? How dare he??

Sunhammer wrote:

I said it once, and I'll say it again: Hasbro, THIS IS NOT TRANSFORMERS. You don't have a fandom that's divided over several forms of media, where some things you release are targeted at specific parts of it. This is a show whose fandom is primarily WAY out of your target audience, and the target mostly doesn't pay attention to it. We're old enough to tell the difference between what you're trying to pull and what's supposed to happen.

Hey give 'em a break it's only been a year, they already had all the toys manufactured well before the show premiered and the fandom came waaaaaaaaay out of left field. From a business perspective it's not wise to invest in a fanbase that hasn't been around very long and who's motivations completely baffle the company.

Give it time, if the community stays strong for a while longer we'll see some real decent product shipped out to us, once Hasbro figures out if investing in us would be like building a house on quicksand or not.

Connor the Brony Wrote:

Also, anypony know where to download the replica of Equestria in minecraft? I really want NEED IT! RIGH’ NOW!!

here you go
sorry if you can't download it

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Gigatoast wrote:

Hey give 'em a break it's only been a year, they already had all the toys manufactured well before the show premiered and the fandom came waaaaaaaaay out of left field. From a business perspective it's not wise to invest in a fanbase that hasn't been around very long and who's motivations completely baffle the company.

Give it time, if the community stays strong for a while longer we'll see some real decent product shipped out to us, once Hasbro figures out if investing in us would be like building a house on quicksand or not.

Yep, i can agree with that ^
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You have to look at several years and see what happens. Maybe there will be a massive decline, loss of interest, etc. Maybe S1 and S2 are popular but then people just grow tired, etc or the show changes, something happens and boom! its all over. Yeah, Im a brony, i love the show, no I cant explain why, and Hasbro cant figure out why 20-year olds like the show. No need to invest in something that is almost a miracle (from a business point of view)

Okay, Conor. You suport the Solar Empire. You are now an enemy of Luna. My blade is spattered with the blood of your comrades, and their bones are crushed beneath my heel. I am Breaker, and the end has come!

Gigatoast wrote:

This… sort of.

George Lucas was given 100% of the credit for the Star Wars franchise but without the rest of the team behind the first 3 movies he's single-handedly turned the series into a joke. Lauren is a very talented individual but she does not deserve full credit for the show, no single person deserves full credit for any team effort.

Consider this, Lauren Faust technically didn't create PowerPuff Girls or Foster's Home, they where both conceived by her husband. It was a collaborative effort getting them both off the ground, and the same is true of FiM.

On the other hand, the internet (and society in general) loves to elect poster boys, people you can personally thank or blame for a series, like how people yell at Gabe Newell when a buggy TF2 patch comes out. If you honestly think the intention is to lay all the responsibility on a single person you're taking it too literally.

Also, Fluttershy is SO not one-dimentional. Nyx is one-dymentional, old Luna is one-dymentional. Fluttershy is so much better then that.

Everyone know that bastard Robin Walker is responsible for that buggy patch bullshit.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKEEEEEEEEEEEER!

I also think the Lauren Faust demi-worship has gone to extreme levels. When MLP FiM became popular, people began attributing PPG and Foster's Home to Lauren Faust despite the fact her husband Craig McCracken was the main force behind those.

(This reminds me when Craig McCraken participated in a swimsuit competition on Space Ghost Coast to Coast to win the right to have the first pilot of PPG to air on the show XD)

But imagine Jason Theissein in the future makes a super awesome show and people completely attribute Friendship is Magic to him and forgot about Lauren Faust. This is what is happening right now with PPG and Fosters.

@NemesisPyro:

That gabe newell video is awesome.

Sunhammer wrote:

Okay, Conor. You suport the Solar Empire. You are now an enemy of Luna. My blade is spattered with the blood of your comrades, and their bones are crushed beneath my heel. I am Breaker, and the end has come!

Come for you maybe, blinded minion of the shadowcast lie-spinner! The strength of the Solar Empire is the strength of life itself, you're "Princess of the night" will only bring death to our land, and the one true Princess Celestia and those who remain faithful too her will never let that happen!

Sunhammer wrote:

GabeN is watching you……………….Along with Karnage, Pheonix, Pinkie, and Big Brother from 1984.

No hes not
Gabe is to busy delaying episode 3 to watch us

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Sunhammer wrote:

Okay, Conor. You suport the Solar Empire. You are now an enemy of Luna. My blade is spattered with the blood of your comrades, and their bones are crushed beneath my heel. I am Breaker, and the end has come!


But I love Woona too!

Gigatoast wrote:

Come for you maybe, blinded minion of the shadowcast lie-spinner! The strength of the Solar Empire is the strength of life itself, you're "Princess of the night" will only bring death to our land, and the one true Princess Celestia and those who remain faithful too her will never let that happen!

The Princess gave my rampant Pyromania purpose, the only light source in a land without sun! I am her sword and shield, the sentinel that guards her, the loyal aide and guard to the Princess of the Night! I will cut down the opposition, slaughter all who deny the sweeping darkness. I live only to serve, and I do it with bloodied steel and a raging passion for WAR!
As for Conor, you better, or I will have your head, and with that your power!

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This is a show whose fandom is primarily WAY out of your target audience…

Not true. Bronies probably still pale in number compared to the target demorgraphic. Most bronies can't see this though, because we don't interact with the little girls who play with their Applejack's (and her truck) and their carnation pink Princess Celestia's or the parents that buy those toys for them. We just see the 100 million hits on EqD.

But from the EqD polls, I don't think any one has gone over 30,000 yet (actually, 35,676, and that included a lot of trolls from 4chan.) We could take that, triple it, add another 10,000 for kicks, and still likely not come close to the millions of previous MLP fans and new, non-brony fans who love ponies.

Besides, Hasbro got bronies by, more or less, doing what they normally do. Ergo, they shouldn't change. The only difference is that Lauren Faust's approach (note: approach) to the cartoon (which is, first and foremost for Hasbro, a 22 minute commercial) taps into a sizeable portion of young males on the Web. MLP is about selling toys. They are selling toys.

At best/most, we are a supplement to what My Little Pony can bring in. In reality, we're a nice bonus.
 
Hasbro has been at this for a while now. I don't doubt their money making technique in the slightest. If their figures aren't where they need to be, then they'll make the changes.

 
 
I will grant you the last part though. The target probably doesn't care what the ponies look like. They could look like that "Pony Vs. Pony" ad (which I could, apparently, be playing for free right now!) off to the right, and the target would likely jump all over it, because it's close enough to their beloved Rarity and Fluttershy.

But most bronies probably wouldn't buy the toys anyway. Some would make-believe and play with their very own Twilight Sparkle and several probably do carry a Rainbow Dash with them for a nice bit of comfort and confidence. But if most are like me (most aren't like me…), then the most they'd buy are DVD's (which require very little change and I've already ordered) and perhaps a sticker or a pin to up my geek cred (because, as Ideo pointed out, I'm kinda a fail geek. My ex said I was an oddly specific geek. I have my interests, but I'm usually more comfortable around "jocks" than "geeks," because I spent more time playing football and doing extracurriculars in high school than anything else. The whole online thing is relatively new to me.)
 
 
Just had a bit to say on the matter. Again, your point isn't without merit.


Oh, and I guess people expected me to throw down with burning_phoneix again. I apologize. I saw no threat, so I decided to take a nap instead.

In all honesty, I just like making fun of Fluttershy more than I actually dislike her. The mane six have always been pretty well-written. And now secondary characters are being given second dimensions.

It probably boils down to me not liking a passive kind of cute. I also loathe the color yellow. That can't help.
 
Gigatoast made a good point. The times where Pinkie shines is when she's "out of character." I think the difference for me is above. Fluttershy's basic state is being shy and inactive. Rainbow Dash is a bit arrogant but not confident. The other four have their faults, but I feel that they are confident characters, at least. Rarity is obviously confident. Twilight knows she's powerful but she's just a little awkward about it. Pinkie is Pinkie and will always be Pinkie (except when she isn't, and even then, I love her.) AJ is overconfident at times, but it's never rubbed me as arrogant as much as Rainbow Dash.


…Oh, hey. Look at that text. My bad.

Give your eyes a rest.

I love a well-done humanization. See thelivingmachine02 all day long. But I hate anthro art. One strikes me as creative and the other as creepy. And both, in reality, have qualities of the others. But I guess since I see humans everyday (usually), one is far preferable to the other.

Time elapsed: 28 minutes (not including time for me to find an AJ image.)

Extra:

I should be in bed, but the 'Rents have no idea I'm on my laptop under the sheets.
As for Verbs, thanks. You once again manage to make me feel like an idiot. As for the toy commercial approach, they're no strangers to that. They've been doing it to us TransFans for over 27 years. They know their tactics, and they do them well. Once Mlp gets to Transformer popularity, then they'll start listening to us. And I also love a good human pony. Especialy LUNA!

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Are the arguments between the Solar Empire and the Lunar Republic STILL going on? Geez people, argue all you want but you should know that none of it matters. One day you'll all find yourself under the crushing power of my boot as I stamp out all opposition. After all, the only true power in this world is the Bad**s Oligarchy of Bob (B.O.B for short). And one day you will all realize this, and I will welcome you into our community with arms wide open… or else.

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Dac, the Luna anthro is the only one I like, and that's saying something.(I normaly hate anthro)
As for Bob, the NLR will crush all opposition. I swear on my rank of Luna's personal guard and aide. I WILL slaughter your organization. I will take your life, and carve my name into your skull. FOR THE NLR!

Sunhammer wrote:

Dac, the Luna anthro is the only one I like, and that's saying something.(I normaly hate anthro)
As for Bob, the NLR will crush all opposition. I swear on my rank of Luna's personal guard and aide. I WILL slaughter your organization. I will take your life, and carve my name into your skull. FOR THE NLR!

Sorry man, but I'm protected by the power of awesomeness. It's the same power that makes Ash Williams a killing machine, powered the Delorean, blew up the Death Star, powered Robocop, and melted that one ring in that really long movie. I'm untouchable.

Sunhammer wrote:

Dac, the Luna anthro is the only one I like, and that's saying something.(I normaly hate anthro)
As for Bob, the NLR will crush all opposition. I swear on my rank of Luna's personal guard and aide. I WILL slaughter your organization. I will take your life, and carve my name into your skull. FOR THE NLR!

You will not slaughter any organization because i'll be slaughtering you with my dagger.
i also have level 35 sneak so i could stab you in your sleep easy

Yeah, right. I will find a way. Your bloody entrails will be displayed in the center of your so-called "Kingdom". Your subjects will weep, and then be killed with swift, emotionless pain. The NLR willlay waste to your faction. Know my name, Bob, for it will be the last name you will ever hear……………………….
And Ku, go ahead. Can't stab a guy who never sleeps. I have a constant paranoia, so I am always looking for idiots who think they can kill the bearer of a great and unstable power…………………..

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Sunhammer wrote:

Yeah, right. I will find a way. Your bloody entrails will be displayed in the center of your so-called "Kingdom". Your subjects will weep, and then be killed with swift, emotionless pain. The NLR willlay waste to your faction. Know my name, Bob, for it will be the last name you will ever hear……………………….
And Ku, go ahead. Can't stab a guy who never sleeps. I have a constant paranoia, so I am always looking for idiots who think they can kill the bearer of a great and unstable power…………………..

one word:
invisibility

I do wonder though… Hypothetically, if I did establish my own government under the title of B.O.B (Bad**s Oligarchy of Bob), who here would join? I'm thinking that many of you would be great additions to the team in my quest for total domination.

Edit: I’m thinking that Burning_Phoneix would be the perfect man to appoint as head of all military activity.

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Sunhammer wrote:

Ku, I have one word for you: Spychecking. An expierenced Pyro knows what to do to when threatened by cloaked beings……………..

stabing is not the only way i kill people i use a bow:

and we all know a pyros only long ranged weapon is the flare gun

Verbose wrote:

n all honesty, I just like making fun of Fluttershy more than I actually dislike her. The mane six have always been pretty well-written. And now secondary characters are being given second dimensions.

So we must agree to…..agree?

THIS WILL NOT STAND!

must.find.other.thing.argue.about

Verbose wrote:

It probably boils down to me not liking a passive kind of cute. I also loathe the color yellow. That can’t help.

Hmmm….FOUND IT!


Setting aside the ridiculous OCD required to loathe a color of all things, Fluttershy is not what we would call a completely yellow character.

As we see here, Fluttershy's coat might be well considered to be "Butterscotch" in color, which is delicious in flavor and therefore excellent as a color, in addition her long flowing mane and tail means she is predominantly light pink in color rather than Butterscotch. Also, she is RandomMan's servant, therefore she is awesome.

BEHOLD, THIS DEBATE CREATING TALENT THAT HAS BEEN PASSED DOWN THE ARMSTRONG FAMILY FOR GENERATIONS!

Airblast can deflect arrows. Yes, even Pyros can achieve headshots through deflected Huntsman arrows. As for Pyro's long ranged weps, he also has the Detonator and ManMelter.
And Pheonix, Fluttershy is still a top pony for me. If Luna was already taken, then she'd be the one I go for next.

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burning_phoneix wrote:


BEHOLD, THIS DEBATE CREATING TALENT THAT HAS BEEN PASSED DOWN THE ARMSTRONG FAMILY FOR GENERATIONS!

Brohoof for fullmetal alchemist reference


@pyro
yes true but you have to have to shoot at the right spot when the arrow is comeing at you really fast


Good night everyone

Last edited Jan 21, 2012 at 01:16AM EST

I'm finally installing my Adobe Creative Suite I got for x-mas! Which included the latest version of Photoshop, plus Adobe Premiere, Flash, and Illustrator! So you know what that means?

I CAN START PUTTING TOGETHER VIDEOS AND ANIMATIONS! :D
I am one happy pony!

At least one of us got what they wanted for Christmas………..I only got 2 things on my list. Same went for Birthday. 'Rents say I'm getting too old for Transformers and Nerf (I mod them,okay?). So congradulations, Gigs.

Gigatoast wrote:

I'm finally installing my Adobe Creative Suite I got for x-mas! Which included the latest version of Photoshop, plus Adobe Premiere, Flash, and Illustrator! So you know what that means?

I CAN START PUTTING TOGETHER VIDEOS AND ANIMATIONS! :D
I am one happy pony!

That was an excellent present. I'm a bit jelly. Although honestly, I'd only use Photoshop and Illustrator.

I expect some awesome art from you in the near future.

opspe wrote:

That was an excellent present. I'm a bit jelly. Although honestly, I'd only use Photoshop and Illustrator.

I expect some awesome art from you in the near future.

Well I got a massive discount because I'm am art student, so my mom didn't break the bank. Still, that and a bag of Cookies and Cream Hershey bars was pretty much all I got.

@Pyro:
A lot of adults are into Nerf guns, they're pretty big around college campus's.

I know Gigs, they use them for HVZ: Humans VS Zombies. But they just say I'm getting too old. I really wanted an Alpha Trooper to mod, but they got me clothes and other stuff. I got 1 Transformer, and it was an awesome one. As for the biggest thing, it was a 3DS. But they accidently got the guide instead of a game. So my gifts recently seem to be lacking, getting only 1-2 items that I asked for, but they almost make up for it by being pretty awsome.

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I've never liked those HVZ things. I was never allowed to go "all-out zombie killer" in them. I mean, what's the point of having a zombie apocalypse simulation if I'm not allowed to break a few bones and split a few skulls? You're going to run out of ammo eventually and you'll need to know the quickest way to incapacitate or kill a zombie.

Skeletor-sm

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