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I did it, Connor. Sorry, Gorge.
But yeah. From what I've seen online to check to see if it's legitimate, it's something you don't want spoiled if you care about spoilers. That's all I'll say.
Yea I'm not opening those video's either. I'm not that desperate for pony so I'm waiting for a HUB recording.
Thank you George, anyway.
@Gamzee's sudden departure
He was talking about deleting his account here
We didn't think he was actually being serious. It sounded like he was saying "LOL DIS BUTTON SEZ 'DELETE MY ACCOUNT' LOLZ WUT DUZ THAT DO GUIZE?" so I thought it was just another one of his jokes.
If he actually had any negative sentiment towards anything that anyone said…well your guess is as good as mine. I never suspected that he would be upset about anything, not even in the Hater General thread. He always takes things in a joking manner just like the real Gamzee Makara.
But knowing Gamzee I'm sure he will be back in a few days and go "LOL GUUIZE I DELEDET MY ACCOUNT LOLOLOLOL!"
So everything will be fine, right Ric?
…Ric?
….Uh, Ric? Are you okay there?Aww gees…look Ric I promise, Gamzee will be back. It's going to be okay.
Dac
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I just noticed something. Ideo hasn't posted in awhile.
@Dac
I noticed that a while back. I hope he didn't die.
burning_phoneix
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Well… Sometimes when mommy is drunk and pass out on the floor, I like sneak up on her and sleep by her side.
STOP THE DRINKING BERRY YOU'RE BREAKING HER HEART!
I just can't put my finger on it but…
This tumblr makes the ponies look cuter but…how? They look the same they do on the show!
Dac
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DId anyone here watch the leaked episode? I didn't. Its like a ritual for me to watch the new one every saturday morning.
@phoenix
Obviously, it's due to the presence of Dan. During the course of the show you only have other diabeetus inducing ponies/non-pony critters to visually compare them to. Eventually your subconcious d'aaaawometer adjusts accordingly, and you can only diferentiate between cute (now baseline) and cuter. With the presence of a not so spectacular looking human in the exact same frame, you are reminded of just how cute the ponies actually are.
Dac wrote:
DId anyone here watch the leaked episode? I didn't. Its like a ritual for me to watch the new one every saturday morning.
Same. I downloaded it but I'm going to hold off.
@burning_phoenix: I think it's the eyes. (edit) And what Nukefire said.
I wish I could paint.
nukefire wrote:
@phoenix
Obviously, it's due to the presence of Dan. During the course of the show you only have other diabeetus inducing ponies/non-pony critters to visually compare them to. Eventually your subconcious d'aaaawometer adjusts accordingly, and you can only diferentiate between cute (now baseline) and cuter. With the presence of a not so spectacular looking human in the exact same frame, you are reminded of just how cute the ponies actually are.
Good analysis. I'd say that's right on the money
In another subject I have also been pondering troll psychology and the deeper logical reasoning behind the troll attacks on KYM Brony community, but I'm not sure if that is a suitable discussion topic.
For those who don't want to get spoiled, LOOK AWAY.
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If not, proceed viewing:
burning_phoneix
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Blue Screen (of Death) wrote:
Good analysis. I'd say that's right on the money
In another subject I have also been pondering troll psychology and the deeper logical reasoning behind the troll attacks on KYM Brony community, but I'm not sure if that is a suitable discussion topic.
I don't know…I still think they're a subtle difference…Somewhere!
It's driving me insane!
I MUST FIND THE DIFFERENCE!
Blue Screen (of Death) wrote:
Good analysis. I'd say that's right on the money
In another subject I have also been pondering troll psychology and the deeper logical reasoning behind the troll attacks on KYM Brony community, but I'm not sure if that is a suitable discussion topic.
Really, the reason most people are trolls about this is because they lurk 4chan, which used to be absolutely FILLED with pony content pretty much all the time. It also used to be a problem on this website, but not to the extent of 4chan and other websites. They just got tired of seeing it, and seeing as anons tend to be assholes, they take it out on bronies to 'get them back.'
I personally don't have a problem with pony content, but that's just me. Some people really can't stand it.
Iamslow
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Dac wrote:
I just noticed something. Ideo hasn't posted in awhile.
But! But…
Ideo is one of my favorite broneis…
And yes I did watch the new episode. I won't say anything until Saturday other than it made me daaaw out loud a couple times. I think you guys are gonna like it.
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The week I'm grounded from YouTube the episode is leaked early on iTunes…
I don't get it though, Y U grounded from just YouTube?
PokerFace wrote:
SPOILER: These embeds are of the new episode that was released too soon. If you don't want to watch it yet, then don't click those vids.
Part 1
Part 2
Sorry, Gorge. But most of the people want spoilers. Thanks for posting these though.
I watched some random scenes.
Dear lord, the people who hate ships are gonna have a field day when this episode comes out.
Edit: F*ck spoilers, it's a full episode, no random scene. Watched the whole thing. Above message still counts.
As for Gamzee, I don't know the details. But deactivated accounts can be reactivated. So if he changes his mind, the damage can be fixed.
Chris wrote:
Really, the reason most people are trolls about this is because they lurk 4chan, which used to be absolutely FILLED with pony content pretty much all the time. It also used to be a problem on this website, but not to the extent of 4chan and other websites. They just got tired of seeing it, and seeing as anons tend to be assholes, they take it out on bronies to 'get them back.'
I personally don't have a problem with pony content, but that's just me. Some people really can't stand it.
That's the basic reason behind most of the trolling that happens across Bronies in general. But I'm thinking in much more specific terms.
To give you an example: What could be a trolls motive behind specifically attempting to raid the KYM MLP image gallery with unflattering images? And yet those same trolls don't attack this thread in the forum or Bronies personally? (I'm thinking of specific users that have done this) The reason behind that could be more specific than your average hater and I'm curious what it could be
I wonder if some troll motives are caused by feelings of intimidation: The troll see's that a certain article in KYM is not just being used for documenting a meme, but also to supplement a community that discusses non-meme related things. Because KYM articles are not really meant for community discussion (that's what the forum is for), the troll may see this as misuse of KYM's services as it causes that meme to constantly trend. This in turn, can result in feelings of retribution or intimidation regardless of any previous resentment gained from 4chan
The mature way to handle that has already been done: We have seen some people make requests on the forum for features that filter out MLP images from the trending bar. But not everyone is so mature about such things. The immature way to handle it is to leave hateful spam in the MLP comment section to try and break up the community that has been established there and that's exactly what some trolls may be trying to do.
That's a theory anyway. I could be wrong and I'm happy to hear alternate theories.
I just like comprehending/analyzing/theorizing
The trolls don't attack the threads here in the forums cause they know they'd get karma bombed to Hell and back and unlike ratings on pictures for the page, those ratings do show up on your profile and we'd easily be able to identify the trolls via that.
Another thing to keep in mind is like that King of All Butt Hurt (oh the irony) guy who goes "itsforgirlsyourallfagsandqueers" and such who think it's odd that we enjoy a show meant for small children, despite Faust CONSTANTLY saying she made it for families and such, including the adult male members.
To give you an example: What could be a trolls motive behind specifically attempting to raid the KYM MLP image gallery with unflattering images? And yet those same trolls don’t attack this thread in the forum or Bronies personally? (I’m thinking of specific users that have done this) The reason behind that could be more specific than your average hater and I’m curious what it could be.
Simple, it's like Abra said, anons. 4chan threads often get derailed with porn and gore. Haters did that to pony threads since the beginning. They apply it here as well, but in smaller numbers. Besides, if they really start uploading porn, it's a ban.
I wonder if some troll motives are caused by feelings of intimidation: The troll see’s that a certain article in KYM is not just being used for documenting a meme, but also to supplement a community that discusses non-meme related things. Because KYM articles are not really meant for community discussion (that’s what the forum is for), the troll may see this as misuse of KYM’s services as it causes that meme to constantly trend. This in turn, can result in feelings of retribution or intimidation regardless of any previous resentment gained from 4chan
The comments had multiple people complaining about the constant trending of the article. Mainly because people were using the comments as a forum/chat. That isn't what the comments are for, we have a forum here. The name is also quite big, it takes up quite some room on the trending bar. I remember when it first was off trending, someone actually made a thread to celebrate it.
Besides, people are free to use the comments on other articles in the same way. Currently MLP is just THE biggest fandom online, so you just have to learn that it's everywhere. Whether you like it or not. But with the constant change on the web, this might be a whole lot different in a few years.
The mature way to handle that has already been done: We have seen some people make requests on the forum for features that filter out MLP images from the trending bar. But not everyone is so mature about such things. The immature way to handle it is to leave hateful spam in the MLP comment section to try and break up the community that has been established there and that’s exactly what some trolls may be trying to do.
Actually, that's not mature in my opinion, more childish. People can't deal with something so they go complain to the staff that they have to fix it.
People should be smart enough to know we can't go discriminate a certain fandom here. Adding a feature to the site for just one single article is a waste of both work and time. And the people requesting it for the sake of themselves are just being selfish. Some have found their own solutions, like adding special codes to their adblock so it won't pop-up. I don't really mind those, although some do take it too far.
As for the hateful spam. Hate or troll, never easy to tell, but it's annoying nonetheless. But mods are constantly watching. If they take it too far, we'll take action soon enough.
I'm going to agree with Random here; it reflects badly on the site if too many special measures are taken to limit the visibility of the MLP entry and images, because, as he said, that is discrimination. Now, there are always going to be trolls who upload…bad images to the entry, and we'd be hard-pressed to try to stop them outright. Our mods tend to be pretty good about cleaning stuff up, and in all honesty, KYM isn't the best source for pony-related images anyways, so I'm not too fussed if there are a few trolls around. Actually, I haven't actually been on the entry page for months – the forums are infinitely better and easier to read than the comments.
As for motivations, all I have to say is trolls will be trolls.
I remember when it first was off trending, someone actually made a thread to celebrate it.
More like the first five times. I certainly know I locked more than one of those threads.
Actually, that’s not mature in my opinion, more childish. People can’t deal with something so they go complain to the staff that they have to fix it.
People should be smart enough to know we can’t go discriminate a certain fandom here. Adding a feature to the site for just one single article is a waste of both work and time.
Although I think it's stupid to have such a feature, it's been suggested as a general feature and not just one for MLP, although that's what it inevitably would be used for by many users.
And as far as what people do with their adblock, I don't care what they block. They could have everything blocked but one entry and it wouldn't make any difference to me.
As for the hateful spam. Hate or troll, never easy to tell, but it’s annoying nonetheless. But mods are constantly watching. If they take it too far, we’ll take action soon enough.
This is why I like that our active community isn't giant. It's fairly easy to moderate.
Dac
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I disagree with Random man. He is too weak and stupid and has no balls and he shoots like a girl. If only a real mod was here, he would save everyone and save the bronies because that mod is awesomer and has a billion girlfriends and a huge dong….
Dac wrote:
DId anyone here watch the leaked episode? I didn't. Its like a ritual for me to watch the new one every saturday morning.
I did not. If I had bought it on iTunes, then I would have been more likely to watch it.myself, but not present it on YouTube or anything. Purchasing it legitimately means I have some right to watch it. That is iTunes/The Hub's fault.
But I'm not watching it on YouTube or on the livestream. FiM is Hasbro's product, and both YouTube and livestream is stepping all over their rights to distribute the product. Hasbro has allowed broneis a lot of freedoms with the show and how it's distributed, and so I'm a little bit upset towards anyone taking advantage of them.
You know Hasbro didn't want us to see that episode this early when the episode got pulled from iTunes. I don't think many people were oblivious to the fact. But then again, it's the Internet. There are some people who will take advantage of anything if they can. There are probably a few who regret it in hindsight, and there are (a lot more) people who chose to not watch it until Saturday. Some out of ritutal, some out of respect for the fan/DHX/Hasbro relationship/some people it's just not that serious.
So I'm actually proud of the brony community for showing restraint in larger numbers than I would have expected.
EDIT:
Nice knowing you, dac.
Verbose wrote:
I did not. If I had bought it on iTunes, then I would have been more likely to watch it.myself, but not present it on YouTube or anything. Purchasing it legitimately means I have some right to watch it. That is iTunes/The Hub's fault.
But I'm not watching it on YouTube or on the livestream. FiM is Hasbro's product, and both YouTube and livestream is stepping all over their rights to distribute the product. Hasbro has allowed broneis a lot of freedoms with the show and how it's distributed, and so I'm a little bit upset towards anyone taking advantage of them.
You know Hasbro didn't want us to see that episode this early when the episode got pulled from iTunes. I don't think many people were oblivious to the fact. But then again, it's the Internet. There are some people who will take advantage of anything if they can. There are probably a few who regret it in hindsight, and there are (a lot more) people who chose to not watch it until Saturday. Some out of ritutal, some out of respect for the fan/DHX/Hasbro relationship/some people it's just not that serious.
So I'm actually proud of the brony community for showing restraint in larger numbers than I would have expected.
EDIT:
Nice knowing you, dac.
Darnit Verbose know you're making me feel like a tool. :(
@Verbose: I'll admit it, I watched the beginning and part of it, but I cut the rest off to save for Saturday.
i'm not watching that episode
my brother want's me to put it on but i'm not gonna watch it till its aired
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Ashki wrote:
I don't get it though, Y U grounded from just YouTube?
My mom thinks I spent to much time on there and she got mad when I didn't do something she thought I should've done and blamed it on "my YouTube addiction".
Holy crap. De-ja-vu. I remember this conversation. I remember telling you guys about it. I remember Dac's death wish, the trolling discussion, all of it. God, I need more sleep. Did you guys hear about what happened last night? Mic the Microphone got over 1.5 K in donations last night. He was so shocked by the generosity, he's giving all the people who donated his Skype and one of his mods is making a group shot of their OCs. He also fought Pedro and cried for about 40 minutes. People were donating in the hundreds. One guy even gave 250. I gave about 20 bucks, but Mic was just so goddamn happy to even get any money. I now have a little faith restored in people. A LITTLE. I still don't approve of most.
@New ep
I watched it. I'm not telling details until Saturday. I REGRET NOTHING!
You're all terrible bronies! Shame…SHAME… Just kidding, mostly.
I think Dr. Brown is OK with it, so he doesn't feel bad. Carlos, I have more of a conservative take on property, and I'm almost paranoid that Hasbro will drop the copyright hammer at any moment (because they can.)
That's something you'll have to determine for yourself. But personally, I can only either get iTunes (which I don't want to do,) buy the DVDs (which I have, but they won't be here for a month, and they don't have all of the episodes,) or watch online. I don't have the money to buy a monthly cable package that includes the Hub, nor does it makes sense to get a different package for just one show (because all I normally watch is ESPN and occasionally Cartoon Network…when they're airing cartoons, that is.) So I don't want the kind of restrictions I've seen on other shows uploaded to YouTube, because bronies are taking advantage of it.
But don't let me make you feel bad. You can usually ignore what I say and be a happier person for it.
Pyro wrote:
Mic the Microphone got over 1.5 K in donations last night.
…
You're serious, aren't you?
Not only was he airing the show…
Not only was it the episode that we weren't supposed to see yet…
But he got money for it too? (A rose by a different name is still over a thousand dollars. "Donations" or not, because he wouldn't have gotten that money had it not aired the episode.)
I'm glad it restored your faith in humanity. I just lost it for that guy. I don't care what he used the money for.
But again, it's the Internet. Some people will exploit it for all that it's worth.
I couldn't help myself really, usually when something like that appears, I have to see at least part of it, for me not to see it would require me getting off the internet, and I think this picture sums that up.
Haha, Iamslow said it reminded him of that one face, so yeah, me not being on the internet is not happening.
My mom thinks I spent to much time on there and she got mad when I didn’t do something she thought I should’ve done and blamed it on “my YouTube addiction”.
Ugh, that's always annoying as all get out.
I think I'm going to wait until Saturday to watch it even though I have an annoying friend who's all like "MAAAAN, YOU GOTTA WATCH THIS SHIT IT'S BRILLIANT".
I think I'd just feel bad somehow watching it before they intended to show it to us. It's like opening your christmas presents early.
Dang nabbit people are posting clips from the episode in the pony gallery.
NottaWotta
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Wakes up on Thursday,
Spoilers of a new episode are in The Pony thread and Image Gallery.
I don't mind people posting about a leaked episode, but can they atleast
THINK about the people who DON'T want to see spoilers before posting it on KYM?
Although I think it’s stupid to have such a feature, it’s been suggested as a general feature and not just one for MLP, although that’s what it inevitably would be used for by many users.
I don't mind it as a General feature, I never will. It's a good idea. It's the same as the option to get a warning when clicking on NSFW entries
But the people who suggested that feature suggest it for MLP 90% of the time, only to work on the MLP related content. That is what I find childish, not the feature itself in general.
RandomMan wrote:
Although I think it’s stupid to have such a feature, it’s been suggested as a general feature and not just one for MLP, although that’s what it inevitably would be used for by many users.I don't mind it as a General feature, I never will. It's a good idea. It's the same as the option to get a warning when clicking on NSFW entries
But the people who suggested that feature suggest it for MLP 90% of the time, only to work on the MLP related content. That is what I find childish, not the feature itself in general.
This is actually pretty funny since someone on the main page was saying that we were whining about Forever Alone's views. Just a tad bit hypocritical in my opinion when people are whining about MLP: FiM.
Besides, I don't think we were whining, you want to know what whining is?
Yeah, I couldn't help myself.
burning_phoneix
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Verbose wrote:
You're all terrible bronies! Shame…SHAME… Just kidding, mostly.
I think Dr. Brown is OK with it, so he doesn't feel bad. Carlos, I have more of a conservative take on property, and I'm almost paranoid that Hasbro will drop the copyright hammer at any moment (because they can.)
That's something you'll have to determine for yourself. But personally, I can only either get iTunes (which I don't want to do,) buy the DVDs (which I have, but they won't be here for a month, and they don't have all of the episodes,) or watch online. I don't have the money to buy a monthly cable package that includes the Hub, nor does it makes sense to get a different package for just one show (because all I normally watch is ESPN and occasionally Cartoon Network…when they're airing cartoons, that is.) So I don't want the kind of restrictions I've seen on other shows uploaded to YouTube, because bronies are taking advantage of it.
But don't let me make you feel bad. You can usually ignore what I say and be a happier person for it.
Pyro wrote:
Mic the Microphone got over 1.5 K in donations last night.…
You're serious, aren't you?
Not only was he airing the show…
Not only was it the episode that we weren't supposed to see yet…
But he got money for it too? (A rose by a different name is still over a thousand dollars. "Donations" or not, because he wouldn't have gotten that money had it not aired the episode.)I'm glad it restored your faith in humanity. I just lost it for that guy. I don't care what he used the money for.
But again, it's the Internet. Some people will exploit it for all that it's worth.
Wait wait wait….Mic was asking for donations while Livestreaming the leaked episode?
Damn that's low, that's just low.
If we was doing it when he was livestreaming his Music or something, I'd have supported him 100% but not this.
Cite
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I might just watch the episode so I don't have anything spoiler'd for me.
Also, seriously, what the f**k, Mic. Not cool. Not. Cool.
On another note, Ivan deactivated his account… I… just… what the Hell is going on?
Sup mabitches?
No work today
NottaWotta
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Verbose wrote:
You're all terrible bronies! Shame…SHAME… Just kidding, mostly.
I think Dr. Brown is OK with it, so he doesn't feel bad. Carlos, I have more of a conservative take on property, and I'm almost paranoid that Hasbro will drop the copyright hammer at any moment (because they can.)
That's something you'll have to determine for yourself. But personally, I can only either get iTunes (which I don't want to do,) buy the DVDs (which I have, but they won't be here for a month, and they don't have all of the episodes,) or watch online. I don't have the money to buy a monthly cable package that includes the Hub, nor does it makes sense to get a different package for just one show (because all I normally watch is ESPN and occasionally Cartoon Network…when they're airing cartoons, that is.) So I don't want the kind of restrictions I've seen on other shows uploaded to YouTube, because bronies are taking advantage of it.
But don't let me make you feel bad. You can usually ignore what I say and be a happier person for it.
Pyro wrote:
Mic the Microphone got over 1.5 K in donations last night.…
You're serious, aren't you?
Not only was he airing the show…
Not only was it the episode that we weren't supposed to see yet…
But he got money for it too? (A rose by a different name is still over a thousand dollars. "Donations" or not, because he wouldn't have gotten that money had it not aired the episode.)I'm glad it restored your faith in humanity. I just lost it for that guy. I don't care what he used the money for.
But again, it's the Internet. Some people will exploit it for all that it's worth.
Wait, So what you're saying is someone is making money off hosting something he didn't make?
THIS Is why BS like Sopa and Acta are here, THIS Is why people are getting sue from unfair copyright laws. Why is it that people like him gets so much money while people are getting sued for posting muisc videos on youtube?!
Ughh… Atleast i have ponies.
I gotta ask y'all why do a lot of bronies care if MLP is on the trending bar or not. I'm like freakin brony for life but honestly I couldn't care less if it is or isn't.
burning_phoneix wrote:
Wait wait wait….Mic was asking for donations while Livestreaming the leaked episode?
Damn that's low, that's just low.
If we was doing it when he was livestreaming his Music or something, I'd have supported him 100% but not this.
Wow, just wow. I don't mind having extra money, but when hosting something that's been leaked the way this has, no, just no.
I gotta ask y’all why do a lot of bronies care if MLP is on the trending bar or not. I’m like freakin brony for life but honestly I couldn’t care less if it is or isn’t.
Most of us don't care about it being there.
So I went and watched the episode… obviously I'm not gunna spoil anything for y'all but I felt it was pretty good.
Fortunately I already payed for the episode so I can go about watching it guilt free! But let's just try to make sure this leak doesn't cut into the show's premiere profits too much. Anyone who's got the Hub should watching on saturday regardless if they've seen it already.
Carlos California wrote:
I gotta ask y'all why do a lot of bronies care if MLP is on the trending bar or not. I'm like freakin brony for life but honestly I couldn't care less if it is or isn't.
It's always been a battle with haters who complained about it always being on top of the trending bar. Some bronies just want to stick it to the haters and some just like that it's on top and some like you and I don't care.
@Daniel: It's actually pretty funny as well at how the haters want it off the trending bar, but along comes the trolls who put it right back up there.
Personally, as I said, I think the haters secretly like us and want to keep it there.
Also, I took that quiz and I got Twilight as who I'm most like, with Rarity coming in second…oh Celestia.
@Daniel
I'm all for the glorious cause that is ponies, but I think the MLP entry keeps the trending bar from doing it's job. After all, just about everyone knows what MLP is, and it's lengthy title keeps other entries from appearing as well.
@Mic's apparent controversy
Before you go and judge him, the donations were up long before the episode was out. They were to fund his trip to BroNYcon. It was never meant to make money off the leaked episode. Also, watch this. It will clear everything up.
He's really not trying to scam Hasbro. It was just a coincidence that the day of the leaked episode was the day he got so much money.
Iamslow
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Ashki wrote:
@Daniel: It's actually pretty funny as well at how the haters want it off the trending bar, but along comes the trolls who put it right back up there.
Personally, as I said, I think the haters secretly like us and want to keep it there.
Also, I took that quiz and I got Twilight as who I'm most like, with Rarity coming in second…oh Celestia.
I took that awhile ago and it almost said I'm most like Pinkie, but I got Rarity instead by what looked like 1 or 2 answers.
It made sense because of some of the answers I put in, but I lol'd because I'm always laughing to myself about how my brother reminds me of her because he's rather dramatic and hates getting dirty with a passion.
And yeah, this account deactivation business is getting weird. I mean it was bad enough that rapturjesus never trolled me back before deactivating his account but now more people are doing it just for the lulz it seems.
I just fond this one
Well, what the shit.
I leave for not even a day and what we got here? Gamzee deleted his account (Ivanp91 is inactive too, are they the same person btw?) AND there's a leaked episode which I'm currently in doubt about watching right now or waiting untill saturday.
WAT DO??