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KYM Pony General V: We Just Don't Know What Went Wrong

Last posted Jul 01, 2012 at 04:43PM EDT. Added Feb 19, 2012 at 11:27PM EST
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@ Pony R34
I usually avoid this topic, but I guess it's time I share my thoughts on it. R34 is everywhere on the internet. I don't think that it ruins this fandom and I'm not against it. Although I will say if someone outside the fandom were to find pony R34, they would get the wrong idea and think we are all cloppers. As for clopping, I would be lying if I said I've never done it before, so, uuhhh, yeah, that's all I have to say about that.

Here's something for the Vinyl Scratch page

Went back through the fourth thread. So many memories, good and bad. And I just happened upon the pages containing Pyro, Cite, Ideo, and I getting mad. (I'd still like to apologize again for trolling that synchtube, which I really did do. (Except for the two real trolls at the end, but no one can remmber that anyway.))

I'm glad the thread's returned to mostly normal, and we'll be getting a new one soon. It's gonna be great.


You really have no idea how many pages have been dedicated to Scootaloo…
Now take my Scoots:

@R34

I might be wrong but I always had an impression that R34 was there mainly to make fun of porn (and how much of it there is on the web) rather than be serious clopping material. You know, sort of like a porn parody.

I find it funny tbh, it's so random.

@Ric Tesla

I remember playing that game. You can't even imagine how good I was at killing air, rocks and dirt.

@Stuff

I like to think that one of the biggest reasons we have "porn of everything" is because R34 ended up becoming a viral meme and a major one at that.

There was porn of a lot of things before someone made the observation we know as R34 and decided to make it a joking rule of the internet but I'm sure a lot of porn is made just to continue upholding R34 as a serious rule that must be followed. We can blame how memetic R34 became for that.

In other words people make porn of something not because of any need or want but simply because its a "rule of the internet" and that rule must be enforced. This sort of makes R34 self sustaining. This explains porn that exists for inanimate objects like vehicles and electrical appliances

Of course not all porn exists for that reason.

Some of it is there for humor purposes like you say. Princess Molestia is a close example of that.

Some porn is made just to piss people off (I.E: take something people respect, draw dicks on it and watch the flames roll). Various trolling attempts made here have done this.

And the rest really is made as a masturbation aid.

Lastly, for all of the above, whatever the creators intention, somebody out there is fapping to it all.

@Windigo
Adultery and inteference with a marriage (especially a canon one) is definitely something I don't approve of.
No, I have not read "Ender's Game", but looking it up, it may be something I'd like to read. I'll see if I can find it.

@This whole R34/Porn discussion
I can go into my total views on sexual morality, but considering I'd probably get flak for being stricter than most and probably bore you to death, I won't.
Regarding "There's Porn of Everything" of course there is a helluva lot of porn on the internet. But one has to look for it to find it in most cases, if not all. So yes, porn is avoidable. The internet is not for porn, but it exists in large quantities on the internet. I certainly avoid it when I can (which would be, nearlly all the time).
Why? Because I don't like porn. It seems empty to me. There's nothing to really be gained and a lot to lose morally. I don't masturbate, so…yeah.
I don't mind if you like it, but realize that I don't like it, so don't even pressure me. Sure, sometimes I do make dirty jokes, but I'm only human. Porn/R34 is just not something I do.


Thou shalt receive these poni!:



Beatles Ponies FTW!

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@Popper

I don't look at porn either. It doesn't really have anything to offer me. Naked male and female bodies? Yea I know what they look like, I don't need to be reminded.

If you are anything like me you will still get curious at least once and take a peek but then you will think "Oh okay, that settles that question" and then not really bother with porn again.

If I see porn (usually by accident or when someone brings it to me), I won't particularly care one way or another. If it's nice, I'll look. If not I'll ignore. But it wouldn't be anything I have not seen before. Indulging in porn to satisfy lust just feels…how do I put this?… juvenile.

But how do you not masturbate?

[edit]

[Pinkie Pie is silently judging]

What? It's true, fapping is impossible to not do at least once

…Well I'm bored I need something to talk about. Yea I know our individual porn perspectives has nothing to do with ponies, but what else is there to talk about until season 3 arrives? Cut me some slack Pinkie

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Two things:


HYPOTHETICAL SCENARIO TIME YAY!!

You wake up one day and have a craving for pony.

In order to satisfy this craving, you go on the internet.

While you are on the internet you see a news story that says all of the voice actors in MLP are being replaced for X reason.

What kind of feels do you have now? Would you still be able to watch the show or are the voice actors that instrumental to your experience?


Also, apparently Faust originally wanted Tara Strong to play Pinkie Pie.* Do you think she could've pulled it off and who would you have liked to see play Twilight in her stead?

*Sauce.

@BSoD
I've trained myself to resist those urges. Sort of like a guy getting off drugs or alcohol, you train yourself to build up a resistance to those things and eventually you get to the point when you're near-immune. You find yourself doing other things with your time (reading, writing, drawing, playing an MMO, going outside and biking) so you're not tempted.

edit-@StarGazer
Yeah, the voice actors are kind of key to my experience, because they bring their characters to light. I would say if we didn't get used to them so much, it wouldn't be as big of a deal. But since we did, you can't replace them.
And also, one does not simply replace Tara Strong…

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@Blue screen

How do you not masturbate? Oh wow, what a brain buster. All you need to do is find one of these.

and you'll never need to beat off again.

@Popper

"The internet is not for porn"

clearly someone has never heard the song before.

Hey, lay your moral sexual views down for me. I'd like to hear them if you want to share as long as you don't mind me going all Socrates on your ass and questioning your beliefs.

Ah Socrates, the man basically started Western civilization and he was one of the biggest trolls ever to walk the face of the earth. Something awesome about that.

@Fifths

Having a girlfriend, even a sexually enthusiastic one never stopped me. I just beat off to her instead (when we weren't in the same town, I mean). One of the curses of having a photographic memory I suppose.

But what Popper says isn't that difficult to believe, I was speaking tongue-in-cheek really. I'm sure its no different from the way I resist cigarettes: I convinced myself I don't want them and never once found a reason to start. I can't blame Popper for not finding a reason for fapping and I couldn't give him one aside from extreme boredom.

Man this is such a fascinating topic, porn and masturbation. Oh Pony General how you amuse me.

I better go get some sleep before I start weirding you guys out. I kind of promised myself I wouldn't post so late at night for this very reason.

@Stargazer
It would be very difficult to get used to new voices after hearing the current ones so much, but if the quality of writing and acting remained high, I would give the new actors a chance.
(This is assuming that the 'X reason' is something legitimate, and not a studio thing to screw over the original actors or some other backroom producer shenanigans.)

For more on Tara as Pinkie (a.k.a. Tara performs her version!) watch this:

Tara's Pinkie was essentially a more hyper version of Bubbles from PPG.
It could have worked but I do think they made the right choice with Andrea Libman.
Yes, the video is two and a half hours and, no, I don't remember precisely where this topic comes up, though I believe it is in the later third or so.
Either way, just listen to the whole thing if you get the time because it has a ton of great info on the BronyCon Documentary and MLP in general with John De Lancie, Lauren Faust, and Tara Strong all on the call.

@Masturbation

Can we go back to ponies?
…please?
For Vinyl?


Last edited Jun 29, 2012 at 01:12PM EDT

@popper
Read Song of songs( or songs of Solomon) and you'll see that the bible isn't against sex as much as you think. Solomon, Abraham, and David were all holy men who talked to god, yet had tons of puntang. Seriously though, the thought that sexual urges are lustfull and immoral doesn't make sense. It's Ok to have sexual thoughts and to seek a women. It's in our blood literally. It's in the hormones. It's not ok to masturbate in public or grope women, but sexual urges are completely normal and out of our control really. I mean, you gotta be sexually attracted to the person you want to date, or else what are you doing?

@fifths
You think married men or guys dating don't beat their meat?

@BSOD
Actually, I could recommend masturbating for something. If I'm working out late, sometimes the pre-workout still has me wide awake after I'm done, a quick jacking off gets me sleeping. It's like the bodies sleeping pill.

Last edited Jun 29, 2012 at 01:19PM EDT

@Dac
I can't say I've read the entire Bible, but I do study it. I'm Christian, after all.
David and Solomon are actually used as examples for being sexually immoral. If you read, though Solomon was praised as "wise", he was a cruel ruler that later started to abandon the covenant. His cruel rule led to the split of Israel and Judah, and a ton of years of immorality throughout the land. In short, Solomon was actually more of a representation of evil and corruption.
David, his father, was also not the greatest ruler about. In fact, Solomon was his bastard son to a point, considering he was conceived out of wedlock (and while his mother was still married to Uriah).

Now, regarding sexual morality, it's okay to have these desires in my opinion. It's natural; you're only human. But you can control them an teach yourself not to give in. You'll always find yourself sexually attracted to stuff but you can have the sense to fight it or avoid it.
Yes, it's okay to be sexually aroused sometimes, but you don't have to masturbate or constantly arouse yourself or go nuts about it. One can just move on and do something else.


@DeadParrot

I'm a Mandalorian riding on the back of Rainbow Dash
You're arguement is invalid

Last edited Jun 29, 2012 at 01:10PM EDT

>MFW the new topic:

I just woke up, and I think that's about enough internet for today.

Anyways, I agree that most of the r34 is probably for trolling purposes or to abide by the rule. I doubt there's really so many people that clop, and I find a lot of the r34 funny, myself. If you take anything on the pop-culture internet serious, it's going to be distorted and confuzzled in your view, which will ruin your experience. You have to take it as a joke, really.

On the note of replacing the voice actors, I think if the actors were good enough and the reason was totes legit, I would probably get used to it. But it's very difficult, as the voices are deeply attached to the characters. Luckily, neither the actors or the producers seem the kind to quit or fire people, respectively.

As for Tara being Pinkie, I saw this one video that had Twilight's voice doing one of Pinkie's lines, and vice versa, and it was pretty entertaining/freaky/-arousing-/confusing. So, I think it'd be a bit neat if Andrea had become Twilight and Tara was Pinkie.

@Popper
Solomon's sins were his wives turning him to peganism and away from god amongst other things and you didn't dispute Abraham, the point I was making is that sex is heavily featured in the bible
In both good and bad ways. And I am a catholic by the way.

"Now, regarding sexual morality, it’s okay to have these desires in my opinion. It’s natural; you’re only human. But you can control them an teach yourself not to give in. You’ll always find yourself sexually attracted to stuff but you can have the sense to fight it or avoid it. "

Are you just talking about masturbation or women as well? Im sorry, but I can't and won't try to avoid being sexually attracted to women. It's natural and is the only way to procreate*. You have to differentiate meaningless drunken sex and chronic masturbation between sex between your girlfriend or spouse and the occasional you time. They are completely different.

*I just said women because I am talking about myself. I think being gay is natural as well.

Last edited Jun 29, 2012 at 02:06PM EDT

Double post, sorry

@popper
You know, Verbose said before that he wanted to wait till marriage before sex. I respect that and had nothing to say to him. I think the reason I feel so strongly compelled to comment on you is because when you talk about sexual attraction, you make it sound like an addiction that needs to be controlled. You even compare it to tobacco and alcohol. And then you say how you control it in order not to damage your moral integrity. The thing is, no many here think that way and are more liberal about it, so then I feel like your saying we can't control our desires when in reality we are in complete control. Mabye that's not what you mean to say, but that's the vibe I get.

Last edited Jun 29, 2012 at 02:31PM EDT

>mfw the last page's R34/porn/masturbation topic

We really hold nothing back sometimes. ¯\(ツ)/¯


So, what would I do for more MLP seasons? I'd even sing the piggy song acapella in front of everyone I know, if it'd get the job done. Maybe.

But really, in a sense I think many of us are already doing it; making videos, vectors, and discussing ponies are what I do to contribute to the fandom as a whole, and the healthier the fandom, the more interest there is in the show, the more reason Hasbro will have to keep funding its production. I have a few of the toys as well, but they're just the Mickey D happy meal ones.

I've made this argument before, that even though the bronydom does spend some money on merchandise, I think our real strength is advertising. Some have offered their disagreement with that, (coughVerbosecough), but I don't think it's an accident that MLP is so dramatically outperforming all their other toy lines right now.

So yeah, between buying the toys and DVDs and raising awareness of the show, I'd say most of us are doing all we can to see its continuance.


Derpy you say? I love Derpy, have a comic:

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@Dac
I assume you mean a season beyond season three that has already been mostly made?
There are plenty of things people would probably be willing to do, all of varying degrees of sanity but really, all we need to do is continue as we are.
As long as the show is remaining popular, people are buying the toys, and Hasbro is making money, the series will continue for some time.
Obviously, it will have to end eventually, but I think we can reasonably expect another couple seasons at least.

OHMAHGAWD!
DERPYPAGE!

Well, that was tiring.
Nap time!

Going back through the old thread I happened upon the old giant compilation of possible thread names.
I can't remember if we've official chosen one for the next thread, so I hope these help.


KYM Pony General V: RandomMan’s Harem:
KYM Pony General V: The Final Frontier
KYM Pony General V: Best rated Drama series on the internet.
KYM Pony General V: Free Wi-Fi available here
KYM Pony General V: You only live twice
KYM Pony General V: Fus Roh Yay!
KYM Pony General V: Just a Little Hoarse
KYM Pony General V: Dac attack is awesomer than everyone and has a billion girl friends and a huge dong. Everyone else is too stupid, and ugly, and have no balls, and shoot like girls.
KYM Pony General V: The New Lunar Empire Strikes Back
KYM Pony General V: Statistically, You Won’t See Another One For Two Months
KYM Pony General V: I Derp, Therefore I Am
KYM Pony General V: RandomMan’s Crib
KYM Pony General V: Now Taking on all Comers, only 5$ a round
KYM Pony General V: We have the cleanest bathrooms in the forum. Don’t even listen to Homestruck
KYM Pony General V: Now with 20% more pony/Derpy
KYM Pony General V: Radation free since ’83
KYM Pony General V: Statistically less likely to to get shot here than JFF
KYM Pony General V: Because Pyro burnt the last one
KYM Pony General V: Pony General V: Because we needed another one
KYM Pony General V: Because we needed another one
KYM Pony General V: We are Brony; Resistance is Futile!
KYM Pony General: Prometheus
KYM Pony General Fiveman
KYM Pony General V: Direct-to-Video Format
KYM Pony General: Generation V and Beyond
KYM Pony General GT
KYM Pony General V: We Just Don’t Know What Went Wrong
KYM Pony General V: All Your Internetz R Belong to Us
KYM Pony General V: Taste the Rainbow
KYM Pony General V: Stay out of our shed
KYM Pony General V: Home of lolstaz!
KYM Pony General V: Prepare Your Anus
KYM Pony General V (May or may not include actual pony discussion.)
KYM Pony General V: On topic sells, but who’s buying?
KYM Pony General V: Sorry not the last one
KYM Pony General V: Bronies are magic
KYM Pony General V: This Shit Again
KYM Pony General V: Come For The Ponies, Stay For The Rape
KYM Pony General V: Stay Away From Page 69
KYM Pony General V: What Drugs?
KYM Pony General V: Who said anything about drugs?
KYM Pony General V: Hey Look It’s the 5th One

Some of them are outdated since this'll be thread 6, but yeah. Some of them are still pretty good.

Last edited Jun 29, 2012 at 04:39PM EDT

And now, for my shortest post ever.

I think I'm just going to officially side with:

KYM Pony General Episode VI: Return of the Poni

Since that seemed to have the most consensus behind it, and I'd rather not have it be the shed one or the >implying one. Besides, like someone said a few pages back, this is our last opportunity for a decent Star Wars name tie-in.

Last edited Jun 29, 2012 at 04:55PM EDT

@Connor
I think most people have generally been accepting of Episode VI: Return of the Poni.
There was a poll a few pages back, and I think it came out on top.
Plus, Jedi! (Edit: If anyone needs further proof of Star Wars' effect on our culture, I originally typed 'jedi' and spell-check knew to capitalize it. Ha!)

I could have also gone for 'Live Free or Twi Hard,' though.

Last edited Jun 29, 2012 at 04:45PM EDT

Aw snap, Nice get Lolzors.

A tank, a juicebox and Derpy? You bet your asses that pic has everything.

@deadparrot

I just found the link to that poll agian

Implying We Talk About Ponies Here was actually the winner but Return of the Poni was second

Nevermind, now the poll looks like it's open agian. Dafaq?

Last edited Jun 29, 2012 at 05:21PM EDT

Alright, bitches. Its super serious scenario discussion time.

Scenario:

Hasbro has decided to create an episode dealing with death and grieving. They are going to kill off one of the already-existing characters in the show.

While I understand we wouldn't want to see any of our ponies die, if you had to pick the one that had to go, which one would it be?

My Answer:

I hate to say it, but Granny Smith. She makes the most sense, and is a perfect candidate to teach kids about loss.

Wightprincess wrote:

Alright, bitches. Its super serious scenario discussion time.

Scenario:

Hasbro has decided to create an episode dealing with death and grieving. They are going to kill off one of the already-existing characters in the show.

While I understand we wouldn't want to see any of our ponies die, if you had to pick the one that had to go, which one would it be?

My Answer:

I hate to say it, but Granny Smith. She makes the most sense, and is a perfect candidate to teach kids about loss.

Snips and snails, I hate them.

@Owens
I would agree with you. Granny Smith is a good candidate because of her age (and it obviously wouldn't be violent if we're talking about an episode that Hasbro could produce). Also the Apple Family is large so they can all support each other which makes it a bit better for them and would help teach.
They could also do it on a pet dying like Spike Winona or Opal; they're non-essential and would cause less pain to the ponies. They could focus on the fillies' reactions, so how Sweetie Belle or Applebloom would react.

If you were talking about what would make an interesting episode, but it would never be made because of breaking the canon or being otherwise unfeasible, though. One where Dash dies in a training accident would be interesting, then you could fixate on each of the mane six's attachments to her.
That reminds me of a good fic I read about Rarity and Sweetie Belle dying in a house fire, even though Dash almost saved them. It talked about how it affect the mane six and CMC, and specifically about how Dash almost got there in time. 'Twas sad.


Speaking of dealing with death. I'm writing a story on that matter. It's in planning right now.
Link
If you have any ideas or criticism they would be appreciated greatly.

ITT:


"OHMAYGAWD PAGE GET LOL MOTHERFUCKERS SO PRO #ATTENTIONWHORING"

Surely getting the top post of a page makes you loved by everyone and your word law.

Last edited Jun 29, 2012 at 06:24PM EDT

Status Report:

As of now I have converted my brother, my best friends, and some kid i dont know who asked me about the shirt I was wearing to bronyism.

Assimilation of the entire world ETA: 5 months max.

@Takashi
IT BEGINS

(dont know why the user put the video on loop, just press pause after you played it once >.>)

Excuse me for a minute, I have some tweets to read

Tweets so far:
1) @tarastrong made me start a twitter account
2) @tarastrong is a bully that made me start a twitter
3) I'm so scared!!!

Oh Lauren Faust, if only you knew what you were getting yourself into =P

Last edited Jun 29, 2012 at 10:46PM EDT

@Dan and Deadparrot

KYM Pony General Episode VI: Return of the Poni

Yep, return of the Poni was the winner. I even changed my vote from "Stay out of our shed" to "Return of the Poni" because in retrospect I'd rather give Star Wars the honor before HotDiggety.

Connor has reminded me of a few names I liked from previous suggestions:

-Best rated Drama series on the internet.
-Free Wi-Fi available here
-Now with 20% more pony
-Statistically less likely to to get shot here than JFF

But everyone's fixated on "Return of the Poni" it seems so how about we just roll with that?


Hey guys, do you like psychology? I know I do! I know this has been done at least a thousand times before, but let's match the ponies to their respective mental disorders anyway shall we?

Twilight: Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
Rainbow: Inferiority Complex
Pinkie: Dependent Personality Disorder
Rarity: Mild Histrionic Personality Disorder
AJ: Atychiphobia
Fluttershy: Aspergers, Avoidant Personality Disorder, Hippophobia
Celestia: Passive Aggressive Disorder
Luna: Dissociative Personality Disorder
Chrysalis: Sadistic, Antisocial personality disorder, Megalomania
Discord: Sadistic, Antisocial personality disorder, Passive–aggressive Disorder

What do you folks think?

Last edited Jun 29, 2012 at 10:42PM EDT

Windigo With Salad wrote:


Hey guys, do you like psychology? I know I do! I know this has been done at least a thousand times before, but let's match the ponies to their respective mental disorders anyway shall we?

Twilight: Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
Rainbow: Inferiority Complex
Pinkie: Dependent Personality Disorder
Rarity: Mild Histrionic Personality Disorder
AJ: Atychiphobia
Fluttershy: Aspergers, Avoidant Personality Disorder, Hippophobia
Celestia: Passive Aggressive Disorder
Luna: Dissociative Personality Disorder
Chrysalis: Sadistic, Antisocial personality disorder, Megalomania
Discord: Sadistic, Antisocial personality disorder, Passive–aggressive Disorder

What do you folks think?

I'm about to finish psychology. I would say Twilight has Asperger's as well. So, who would have bipolar or schizophrenia? Also, have you study some good theories like Freud's theory or Rogers's theory of self-actualization?

Just a side-note here guys:

You may have noticed the article on Bronies that popped up on trending again. 8 months ago it was agreed we don't need it but I'm starting to think it might actually be useful now that Bronies have developed so much

People are mighty confused by it. Some say its a ridiculous waste of time since Bronies are already mentioned in the main MLP article

Others see a potential use for splitting the subject of the fandom out of the subject of MLP

Take a look there and add your comment there in the comment section. I'm looking for people who can add valid, debatable opinions on the necessity of a Brony article.

As for this thread: You may return to your current topic of Psychology, Twitter or Derpy

Last edited Jun 29, 2012 at 11:39PM EDT

Blue Screen (of Death) wrote:

Just a side-note here guys:

You may have noticed the article on Bronies that popped up on trending again. 8 months ago it was agreed we don't need it but I'm starting to think it might actually be useful now that Bronies have developed so much

People are mighty confused by it. Some say its a ridiculous waste of time since Bronies are already mentioned in the main MLP article

Others see a potential use for splitting the subject of the fandom out of the subject of MLP

Take a look there and add your comment there in the comment section. I'm looking for people who can add valid, debatable opinions on the necessity of a Brony article.

As for this thread: You may return to your current topic of Psychology, Twitter or Derpy

You might wanna know some facts on it.

It was originally deadpooled (by me even :O). Later I hid it for blaming it being a dupe. Brad unhid it and put it back into submissions. Seeing the work he put into it, I can see it work out. But like most of the people, I can't help but being a bit confused.

Given the impact, bronies and My Little Pony are two seperate subjects. Bronies have created a notable impact on the web. Certain events centered around bronies but not ponies (like The Humble Brony Bundle) can also be put there, while those would most likely never be mentioned in the main entry, same with certain hosting sites and other stuff. But I leave the discussion to others for now, I work better in discussions when I have arguments to counter.

IMPORTANT NOTE: Merging "because it is ponies" is not a legit reason and can't even be considered an argument. If you think it is one, turn 360 degrees and walk away.

Last edited Jun 29, 2012 at 11:48PM EDT
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