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KYM Pony General V: We Just Don't Know What Went Wrong

Last posted Jul 01, 2012 at 04:43PM EDT. Added Feb 19, 2012 at 11:27PM EST
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@ PARTY.MOV again
I've noticed that people have been saying that the MOV series is predictable, not clever, and boring. Well, I'm gonna play the devil's advocate here and say that you could say the same about My Little Pony. I have never been suprised by the outcome of an episode of MLP. I even guessed that rainbow dash would pick a turtle before the episode aired. The villains are always defeated by a dues ex machina like love or friendship. As for the jokes, they aren't exactly reminiscent of Oscar Wilde or Mark twain when it comes to its wit. The jokes are cute, but not very clever and they are very predictable. Sure, they put references in there that are kinda clever, but so does the .mov series. Applejack gardening at a Garden Party? Uh, not very clever. So, what's my point? I think it has more to do with the fact that you might not like surreal, raunchy, or black comedy. plain and simple. There is a reason many people, such as myself, like .MOV. It's because we find it funny and a clever departure from MLP. But if that's not your kinda thing, it's hard to like. But calling it predictable, boring, and not clever is doing a huge disservice to it.


DEAR GOD HERE COMES THE BRONY COMMENTS I DON'T TO LIVE PRYO KILL ME
but guys if i here anyone saying the pryo is a brony im going to go kill myself so plese don't say it

yes yes

ok ok im going to be ok


yes i can feel the healing

oh ya this is a cool song

Last edited Jun 27, 2012 at 02:14PM EDT

@Dac
Yes, MLP is often predictable, but it is meant to be a light sitcom. The MOV series is heavily based in 'shock-value comedy.' I like surrealism, black comedy and shock comedy sometimes, but only when it is actually, well, shocking. If I see the raunchiness coming from a mile away, no matter the crazy juxtaposition against the source material, it just isn't very funny for me. I don't mind if other people do like it, but I just don't.

@Thor
I am a brony, dumbass.
ALSO
Same vid
Posted 3 different times
In a thread that isn't even about said vid
What the fuck guys.
The thing's already been posted on KYM 4 times, 3 times here alone.
Edit that shit.
Aaaaand…back to isolation

Last edited Jun 27, 2012 at 02:28PM EDT

Sunhammer wrote:

@Thor
I am a brony, dumbass.
ALSO
Same vid
Posted 3 different times
In a thread that isn't even about said vid
What the fuck guys.
The thing's already been posted on KYM 4 times, 3 times here alone.
Edit that shit.
Aaaaand…back to isolation

now i see why you don't talk much

Dac wrote:

@ PARTY.MOV again
I've noticed that people have been saying that the MOV series is predictable, not clever, and boring. Well, I'm gonna play the devil's advocate here and say that you could say the same about My Little Pony. I have never been suprised by the outcome of an episode of MLP. I even guessed that rainbow dash would pick a turtle before the episode aired. The villains are always defeated by a dues ex machina like love or friendship. As for the jokes, they aren't exactly reminiscent of Oscar Wilde or Mark twain when it comes to its wit. The jokes are cute, but not very clever and they are very predictable. Sure, they put references in there that are kinda clever, but so does the .mov series. Applejack gardening at a Garden Party? Uh, not very clever. So, what's my point? I think it has more to do with the fact that you might not like surreal, raunchy, or black comedy. plain and simple. There is a reason many people, such as myself, like .MOV. It's because we find it funny and a clever departure from MLP. But if that's not your kinda thing, it's hard to like. But calling it predictable, boring, and not clever is doing a huge disservice to it.

DeadParrot222 wrote:

@Dac
Yes, MLP is often predictable, but it is meant to be a light sitcom. The MOV series is heavily based in 'shock-value comedy.' I like surrealism, black comedy and shock comedy sometimes, but only when it is actually, well, shocking. If I see the raunchiness coming from a mile away, no matter the crazy juxtaposition against the source material, it just isn't very funny for me. I don't mind if other people do like it, but I just don't.

My point was that if you don't like it, fine, it's not your thing. But don't say because it seriously flawed. A lot of people like it, therefore it must be doing something right.

Dac wrote:

@ PARTY.MOV again
I've noticed that people have been saying that the MOV series is predictable, not clever, and boring. Well, I'm gonna play the devil's advocate here and say that you could say the same about My Little Pony. I have never been suprised by the outcome of an episode of MLP. I even guessed that rainbow dash would pick a turtle before the episode aired. The villains are always defeated by a dues ex machina like love or friendship. As for the jokes, they aren't exactly reminiscent of Oscar Wilde or Mark twain when it comes to its wit. The jokes are cute, but not very clever and they are very predictable. Sure, they put references in there that are kinda clever, but so does the .mov series. Applejack gardening at a Garden Party? Uh, not very clever. So, what's my point? I think it has more to do with the fact that you might not like surreal, raunchy, or black comedy. plain and simple. There is a reason many people, such as myself, like .MOV. It's because we find it funny and a clever departure from MLP. But if that's not your kinda thing, it's hard to like. But calling it predictable, boring, and not clever is doing a huge disservice to it.

We seriously need more of these kinds of posts. Calm, yet assertive.

Anyways, more Applejack, this time with her little sis Apple Bloom.

(and srsly you're allow to post shipping pics? This could get interesting)
IS THERE NO OTHER PLACE TO GET PONY PICS BESIDES DEVIANTART AFTER PONIBOORU WENT DOWN FOR SOME REAON

Last edited Jun 27, 2012 at 03:45PM EDT

@Twins
Have you tried Derpibooru?
It was basically nominated by the Ponibooru mods as the official replacement when they went down.
Their gallery isn't as full yet, but huge amounts of content are being posted everyday so they should be caught up soon.
Lots of Applejack, too!

And on a unicycle because, why not?

Dac wrote:

My point was that if you don't like it, fine, it's not your thing. But don't say because it seriously flawed. A lot of people like it, therefore it must be doing something right.

Having a lot of people like something does not mean that it isn't flawed.

Oh I'm not talking about .MOV series. I find a bit funny at times but I'm just referring to the logic of that sentence of yours. :P

Dac wrote:

My point was that if you don't like it, fine, it's not your thing. But don't say because it seriously flawed. A lot of people like it, therefore it must be doing something right.

That was precisely my point as well. I don't like it, but I don't mind if other people do. I never called it 'seriously flawed,' I simply stated my opinions on it and the reasons behind them.

And, yeah, like Phoenix said, you'll want to watch out when making those arguments from popularity. You may find yourself forced to acknowledge the legitimacy Nickleback, Justin Beiber, or the Twilight Saga! =)
(Just to be clear, I have no problem with anyone who likes these things, nor am I claiming that anyone here does. They are just frequent flyers on Internet Hate Airlines.)

…

… I like Nickleback…

Last edited Jun 27, 2012 at 04:24PM EDT

burning_phoneix wrote:

Having a lot of people like something does not mean that it isn't flawed.

Oh I'm not talking about .MOV series. I find a bit funny at times but I'm just referring to the logic of that sentence of yours. :P

Oh pheonix, you always catch my slip ups. Yeah, you are right. Popularity doesn't always equal greatness.

@deadparrot
Nickleback…. You like Nickleback!!! NICKLEBACK! NICKLEBACK!

Last edited Jun 27, 2012 at 04:36PM EDT

DeadParrot222 wrote:

That was precisely my point as well. I don't like it, but I don't mind if other people do. I never called it 'seriously flawed,' I simply stated my opinions on it and the reasons behind them.

And, yeah, like Phoenix said, you'll want to watch out when making those arguments from popularity. You may find yourself forced to acknowledge the legitimacy Nickleback, Justin Beiber, or the Twilight Saga! =)
(Just to be clear, I have no problem with anyone who likes these things, nor am I claiming that anyone here does. They are just frequent flyers on Internet Hate Airlines.)

…

… I like Nickleback…

I LIKE THEM TOO!

Also, because I'm an attention whore, here's my latest pony parody for anyone who missed it on the last page.

And there's this stuff too:

"…then just give her up for adoption."

Sweetie Belle's message to anorexics.

"…For bending over."

Yes, Sweetie's cooking is that bad.

…Various Soccer moms.

"I am sooooooooooo baked."

>If_you_know_what_I_mean.jpg

>Liarjack.jpg

Appplebloom uses her natural cuteness to attract admirers.

"Fo shizzle mah nizzle."

"You do realith there'th no sthreet talking cutie mark, right?"

Last edited Jun 27, 2012 at 04:47PM EDT

@DeadParrot

I've seen Nickleback… don't see what all the hype is about, Nicklebacks have been around for years….

@GigaToast

Why does pyro remind me of discord now that I've watched Meet the Pyro….

Aw, I missed the Rainbow Dash page. Shit, why does my internet decide to crap out on the day that everyone is fanboying over best pony as hard as me?

I had my rainbow wig ready and everything.

@Party.mov

Uh ya, such crude and tasteless humor only impresses philistines and brutes. There was no wit to it at all, just a sign of our degrading culture. Of course I didn't laugh at it, I'm WAY too much of an intellectual to be amused by such things.

(huur hurr, dey don't call him Big Mac for nothin, hurr hurr)

Last edited Jun 27, 2012 at 05:13PM EDT

@PARTY.MOV

I guess I'll just post my own review of it, rather than replying to anyone in particular.

First off, the .MOVs have never really been my cup of tea. I feel like it's far easier than it should be to get a laugh out of people with copious amounts of swearing, body fluids, sex, and violence/murder/gore. Say what you will, I prefer humor that takes a little more thought than that. The video did have something going for it with the mock-umentary idea, but he unfortunately he failed to maintain any subtlety with his jokes. For example, the statement "There is nothing in the world more important than the lives of celebrities!" is a satirical statement that works just fine on its own, but it is followed immediately by footage of a giant monster Discord doing something obscene while a city burns around him. It goes from witty to quite plain in a heartbeat with jokes like that. Pinkie's "period" is another example of this. It's so over the top that I just sit there staring blankly. Also, laugh tracks? Wut?

HDD's animation skills are clearly there, I think almost anyone will agree to that; and even though I don't care for the art style, his ability is certainly worth mentioning. Unfortunately, the other elements are just not that clever. Those are my thoughts.

In a blatant rip off of other reviewers, I give it TWO pink prostitutes out of five.


@Thor

Pyro is a total brony.

Deal with it.


Applejack, yay!

Last edited Jun 27, 2012 at 05:40PM EDT

@Takashi
We're doing weird Youtube captions now?

Edit:
Ha!
Yes, new page get!

In honor of this new Scootapage, have a game!
It's a few months old, but it's fun!
LINK

@Mega
Okay…
I guess they can share… (grumblegrumble)

Last edited Jun 27, 2012 at 06:27PM EDT

@PONY.MOV:

I think you guys are looking too much into it. I don't get offended by them, I find them occasionally entertaining, but I don't think they're super awesome. They have fairly good animation, and I think HDD is pretty awesome and all for making them. However, I did think the Northern Incident was far superior to the PONY.MOV vids (bar APPLE.MOV, maybe), in that it was unexpected, ridiculous, and funny as fuck, at the end, but disturbing and creepy beforehand. It felt creative, surprising, and fairly awesome, in my opinion, and I liked it more than I have the PONY.MOV things, which, while not necessarily being cruder, are less imaginative.

@Page gets:

AMIDOINITRITE?!

@Nightmare Moon:

Gaben heads Valve up, but TF2 has a team of like six or ten people, if I recall. I doubt he's involved in any way with that, really, though he is a brony. Anyways, TF2 takes place in the 60s, so even the first gen of MLP didn't exist, assuming of course the world isn't so war-fueled that they would eventually invent marshmallow equines at some point.

Beyond that, the unicorn doesn't really resemble those of the show. Unicorns are generally seen as cheery and colorful, while also somewhat feminine, so it fits with the general theme of the trailer.

@Moon
Wait! Don't go!

Not like Pyro does…just don't stay gone too long, okay?


@Solaire
Dear goodness, that's terrifying…


Anyway, I'm taking a leave of abscence after tomorrow. I'll stay in limited contact, though. If you need anything, PM me or post it on my wall and I'll get back to you when I can. Don't hold back now.
Yep. That means reactions are on hold Fifths/Joe/Advance. I'll see if I can get the final part of Lunar Dawn done before I go, so expect it late late tonight.

Last edited Jun 27, 2012 at 06:49PM EDT

@Solaire
That image…

@Dac below
I agree, I kept seeing everyone saying "Pyros a brony" and I was like "what?" so i replayed the video seeing the unicorn and, like you said, just because it's a unicorn doesn't mean it resembles MLP.

Last edited Jun 27, 2012 at 07:08PM EDT

@pyro video
Honestly, I doubt it was a shout out to bronies. It was just a unicorn in a world full of lollipops a cherubs. The unicorn didnt even resemble MLP unicorns. It looked more like the unicorn from toy story. Why is the YouTube video full of comments from bronies and haters, I mean, MLP didn't invent the idea of unicorns. Haters and bronies need to chill.

Back Later wrote:


That is all. Back to inactivity it is

well time to turn my in brony badge in for a while im done with this whole pryo is a brony stuff
i need a break
also THANK YOU Dac for saying that i feel the same way
i found this if you want to give it a read feel free http://pastebin.com/Etyryn2B
oh and one more thing that kind of stuff like one happy world and IRL there people dieing has been done before

it reminded me of this a bit

Last edited Jun 27, 2012 at 07:17PM EDT

Sorry guys, Candyland =/= Equestria, 'Meet the Pyro' was not intended to be any kind of Brony shoutout. We should really just get that cleared up.

Besides, TF2 takes place in 1969, over 50 years before the rise of the poni.

On a related note, the inflatable unicorn from Pyro's schizo-vision is available for purchase on the Valve store.

@Pyro is brony

OUR KYM Pyro is a brony.

THE MEET THE PYRO Pyro is not.

It's kinda annoying that one unicorn/pegasus/pony appears in something and everyone's like ZOMG A PONY DUR DUR DUR BRONY REFERENCE!


Disregard arguement;
Acquire Chrysalis:

"Dayum!"


"Really…right now?"

And because DeadParrot asked, Scoots:

Last edited Jun 27, 2012 at 07:35PM EDT

Oh brother, really guys? When someone says Pyro is a brony, I'm pretty sure they mean it about as seriously as when we say Big Mac is a brony. OBVIOUSLY the unicorn is different, OBVIOUSLY it's not a direct reference to MLP. And to those saying it's set before MLP, it's a video game world, regardless what time period. It doesn't even have a storyline, as far as I'm aware. The fact that anyone is actually being so literal about all this and actually arguing over it, good gravy girl…


Last edited Jun 27, 2012 at 09:12PM EDT

@Dan

Yea, when I heard people calling the Pyro a Brony I figured people weren't being serious and it was more along the lines of "LOLIPOPS AND RAINBOWS! MUST BE A BRONY LOLOLOL" kind of joking

It's like how people said that Gaben and Notch were Bronies. We know there is no real confirmation that they are, but its absolutely hilarious when we say they are. Great trolling opportunity.

I did sort of think of MLP when I saw that living plush unicorn in the video but that's just because I've been a Brony for so long that every depiction of a horse reminds me of MLP, but there were no MLP references whatsoever in the video. One plush unicorn doesn't count as one. The setting of being so high you are wandering in a land of Lolipops,rainbows and unicorns long predates MLP. So I really am not sure who's taking the claim seriously or why.

What we do know for certain however is that the Pyro is really, really coked up on some nasty shit

Last edited Jun 27, 2012 at 10:05PM EDT

@Blue Screen

That's for sure. I thought the video was really funny, but as I pondered it afterward, it struck me that the guy is still pretty scary. What level of schizophrenia would someone need to have to dwell in such a reality? And what sort of life would have brought him to that point? Creepy.

And now, for the sake of relevance:

@Pyro and brony status
People can be stupid at times. No, rainbows and unicorns =/= brony.
In fact, the acid-trippy candyland world he lives in could be anything.
1. A defense mechanism so he doesn’t have to see the horrors he does
2. Drug use (Its the 60s, I wouldn’t put it past him)
3. He just likes to see the world better than what it really is
4. He’s fucking insane
Option 4 is the most likely one.
Overall, I enjoyed this one.
I like how every single class is completely terrified of him. The Heavy fought the Scout in MTScout, the Soldier wasn’t scared of the Spy in MTSpy, but this time, they all just ran for it as soon as he stepped on to the battlefield.
That is the kind of fear and power the Pyro projects.
Not to mention he bludgeoned the Heavy to death with an ax, locked the Medic in a barn and burned it down, made a gaping hole in the Soldier’s chest, and left the entire battlefield a burning, charred wreck.
This is probably the most badass Meet the Team short I’ve seen. Valve did a good job on this one.

@Moon and Dan
I think another way pyro got like that could be the fumes from his flame thrower. Or, who knows, maybe the so called "imaginary world" is what's really going on and the team fortress universe is a sick nightmare in his head. Even in that way, that'd make him scary as fuck in the happy fluffy world. Anyways, I'm waiting for the bubble wand secondary weapon, the lollipop melee weapon and the rainbow thrower.

Now for some relevance.

Edit:
I typed in "Derpy Hooves" on Slogan Maker and I got something like "When you think dirty, you think Derpy Hooves"

…

Derpy, your so dirty! I better "clean you up".

That's better.

Last edited Jun 27, 2012 at 10:40PM EDT

Yeah, I'm more worried about the haters' reactions.
I'm resonably sure that most bronies are just saying 'Pyro is a brony' for giggles based on the happy unicorn and rainbows while not truly believing that it was a shout out.
Haters saying that MLP has now ruined TF2 officially, though?
I'm not sure there would be any reason for them to pretend to be so annoyed by it, which makes me think they actually do believe it!

BTW, did anyone else notice that in a video focused entirely around a character whose main weapon is a flamethrower, they never actually showed another character actively on fire?
Lots of flames behind and around them, but never any actually on them.
Weird…

@Deadparrot

they never actually showed another character actively on fire?

They certainly implied people being on fire, including a medic and a sniper moments from being incinerated before the camera switched scenes.

However they probably avoided showing people burning alive in order to keep the video's parental rating down to a minimum


But we are getting off-topic here so have some nice Derpy fan-art

We should take any further Pyro discussion to the actual thread

Last edited Jun 28, 2012 at 12:06AM EDT

@PONY.MOV

I'm going to agree with Dac on this. I like the PONY.MOV series for starters. I'm a fan of random humor that doesn't really need a background, the .MOV series give this to me in ways the regular show doesn't. Then again, I don't mind if I watch a new episode a few days too late.

But what people seem to forget the most about it is that it's a parody. The .MOV series isn't serious and based on the content we can conclude they don't take themselves that serious either all the time. The series is made to make fun of the MLP:FiM universe.

And parodies come in many ways. You cannot like them all. If you don't like them, I respect that but don't go tell me it's shit and you don't get why I watch it. If you like it, that's ok, but don't force others to do so too, that's just annoying. Opinions are opinions and everyone is in their right to have their own. Nothing is perfect, everything has its flaws. People that like something are able to look around those flaws as if they're not or hardly present. People that dislike something will try to find the flaws and exploit them to proof themselves correct. It's human nature, nothing more, nothing less. 9gag is hated by many, but they must be doing something right to get an userbase as big as it is now. The 9gaggers won't point out all the time how their userbase is terrible for "claiming memes theirs", while the haters like to mention this every time they talk about their dislike.


@Pyro being a brony

It seems the conclusion was already drawn that the Pyro isn't a brony, he's just baked.

But I have to mention that I'm sometimes getting annoyed by this. "Hey guys, there's this odd shape on this weird rock that vaguely represents Twilight Sparkle. IT MUST BE A SHOUT-OUT TO BRONIES HURRDURR! LOL, TAKE THAT HATERS, YOU GOT NOTHING ON US HERP DERP!"

Although obviously fake, it does represent a common reaction in those situations. Every small wink or nod that might seem related to MLP is claimed by many bronies as a shout-out. Commonly followed by the person responsible being called a brony. But this isn't always the case. MLP is huge, you can't avoid it. So of course companies will notice it and try to use it. But that doesn't mean they are bronies directly. If Skrillex was wearing a Pikachu t-shirt, I doubt /vp/ would go all "WOOT, TAKE THAT HATERS". Pokemon's big, so spotting a celebrity with it is only natural at times. Not to forget unicorns are a common mix with rainbows and sunshine. But that doens't make either of those a shout-out to bronies all the time. Remember unicorns and pegasi existed in myths long before the G4 ponies.

I don't mind it when people like seeing ponies in the mainstream. It's cool and you have every right to like it. But don't go exploit every small wink or nod all the time and use it as ammo against people that don't share your bronyness. It's annoying and certainly makes it seem like bronies are forcing their pony love unto others.

/rant

Last edited Jun 28, 2012 at 12:21AM EDT

Still talking about Meet the Pyro. In the pony thread.

WHEN IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SCOOTA TIME!?!

I get it though, the reactions to the balloonicorn makes it somewhat relevant. Eh.

Last edited Jun 28, 2012 at 12:22AM EDT

@Pyro Discussion.
The video it self speaks to Pinkie in such a way. The functions going on the Pyro's brain is just a mysterious one…but I can relate… We have been going through the same affect of what Pyro is going through…but in a reverse effect heh… Pinkie is wanting it to be left at that, do not want to tread into further of the suppressed memories we have encountered.
But have a complementary Pinkamena Pyro picture:

[Insert pun of temperature and attractiveness here as one word]
"We will purge the impurities from the land, only red will stand!!!"

Rarity is a bitch.

I saw a photo in the image gallery that prompted me to go look up this clip of Sweetie Belle.

I hadn't really thought about this when watching Sisterhooves social, but that was a truly beautiful gesture. I mean she went through all the work of cleaning that disaster zone of a room for Rarity, unprompted, and just look at how fucking excited she is about it. She even went through the trouble of HIDING so she could jump out at the perfect time. I mean, if I had a kid who did that, I would instantly unregret the condom breaking.

So ya, I know Rarity learned the friendship lesson eventually, but what kind of heartless monster could watch that scene and not immediately just love the hell out of that little twit? I don't care if she accidentally destroyed the Mona Lisa, you do NOT scold that. Sweetie Belle is new favorite crusader.

Warning: Hnng

Edit: I just realized something. "Oh, we could paint together. We could ride bikes, play chase, sing a song."

Those are all things I fucking love to do. That's it, I'm adopting Sweetie, I don't care how many American laws, Equestrian laws, and physical laws I have to break to do it.

Last edited Jun 28, 2012 at 02:18AM EDT

@Fifths:

The problem was entirely that Sweetie Belle tried to help unprompted. She did something that was detrimental to Rarity without asking, and without realizing it. If somebody were to clean up my stuff without asking, I'd be rather upset too (I know because my mother did it occasionally when I was living at home). It's not a matter of Rarity being a bitch, it's a matter of Sweetie Belle not thinking properly and asking first. Same deal with cleaning the sweater and using the diamonds for art.

In the long run, it wound up working, I guess, but it really was Sweetie Belle's fault that they had the falling out. You always want to ask before using somebody else's stuff, even if it's your sibling (especially if it's your sibling), and you want to make sure you're helping, instead of hindering. I could easily understand Rarity being upset with Sweetie Belle, because she ruined a sweater, used up several gems, and possibly hindered Rarity's work (which is how she makes a living).

Overall, I'd say they both had their mistakes, but it was Sweetie Belle trying to be too helpful without asking and not thinking her thoughts through that caused the initial problem. Rarity reacted with her anger, which she soon got over after Sweetie Belle's plans turned out to have unintended benefits (although, really, it was kind of an unlikely outcome, in my opinion).

You can't call Rarity a bitch for reacting in a human way, and then apologizing for it, when she was the one who lost money from Sweetie Belle's mishaps. Rarity reacted more or less normally, and probably held out longer than most people would have, and wound up doing a pretty gutsy thing to win her sister's affection back.

Anyways, regarding best Crusader…

You picked a favorite, you sick monster. You're lucky this is the internet, and I have yet to discover a miraculous ability that allows me to sword-punch you across the tubes.

Skeletor-sm

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