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KYM Pony General V: We Just Don't Know What Went Wrong

Last posted Jul 01, 2012 at 04:43PM EDT. Added Feb 19, 2012 at 11:27PM EST
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Oh you guys. Sometimes I wish I had the knowledge of things and attention span required to
crank out Tl;dr posts on a regular basis like a good number of you do. But I just -

Holy fuck this is cute.

@PARTY.MOV

hahaha wow

@PARTY.MOV:

I really don't mind HDDs stuff, usually, and I'll probably watch that, but not right now. Can't really make too much noise, at the moment.

Anyways, I'm glad to hear he's becoming more creative and mature. I thought the Northern Incident video was pretty disturbing up until the monsters were shown, which is when I started laughing my ass off. It was immensely funny, while being darkish, without the over-the-top deal some of the .MOV stuff had.

Also, I imagine Andrew W.K. would enjoy this short, judging by the title.

@Rainbow Dash page:

@Applejack:

She's very far from a Mary Sue, trust me. Mary Sues have very few flaws, if any, and they're usually self-insertion of the author or the author's favorite character, by an immense margin. Applejack is neither, as she has very little screen time compared to most of the Mane Six, and she also has several flaws. One of the flaws, pride, is the ultimate indicator against a Mary Sue. Mary Sues are usually never wrong, always rightfully prideful, and rarely overestimate themselves. Applejack has been wrong, has misjudged others, has been prideful beyond herself, and has overestimated her capabilities multiple times. She's also shown that she isn't flawlessly courageous, as she was too afraid to face her friends after losing the rodeo in the Last Roundup.

I'd, honestly, say none of the Mane Six are even close to being Mary Sues. They show enough flaws, character development, and believable traits to be considered very good characters. Several non-main characters are like that too, namely Spike, Celestia, and Luna.

None of the characters on the show are Mary Sues, except for possible fan depictions of the characters (they don't count, though). Applejack is just the metaphorical lightning rod of the Mane Six, taking all the crazy and grounding it by being reasonable. She makes mistakes and slips up, too, but she helps prevent others from doing the same.

@Whitishcollar:

Welcome to being a member on KYM, then. Generally speaking, we're (usually) more reasonable than other places, in my experience, so you'll likely have an enjoyable stay.

Obligatory, though if you've lurked you've probably read it:

’Verbose is the local TL;DR king and a mod, RandomMan gets all the bitches and is generally the best guy ever, Algy likes fan-fics, Muffinator and I are clones (according to Verbose), Ric is a pegasus with augmentation bullshit, Popper is a Mandalorian with the hots for Chrysalis, Pyro is Nightmare Moon’s waifu (and vice-versa), Twins is a girl that’s been strangely absent, Dac provides the shitstorms and controversy, and Princess Celestia is best pony. El Slinker, Windigo, Zarathh, and everybody else are awesome bros that come before hoes.

Now that that’s out of the way, make sure to be kind, contribute to discussions when you can and try to be nice and you’ll do fine. If you go to the Just For Fun forum, Captain Serious (AKA Thomas Nair) is kind of a dick, and hates bronies with a passion. Try to troll him as often as possible.'

Lastly:

yfw I listened to this:

while running through this:

…Like Muffins said, the early parts were better that the latter ones and I think the writer left a huge potential for character development on the cutting room floor. It would have been far more interesting (and made better justification for her later actions) if Nyx were ‘found out’ while still a filly. I was really hoping for a Frankenstein-esque, ‘kill the monster because it’s different’ kind of angle that never manifested.

Couldn't have said it better myself. I think the largest mistake the author made was to take the whole (spoilers in white text) she returns to her original form to gain vengeance approach. For the next 4 chapters or so, she's just dawdling about in a castle detesting everything. Also, I thought it ended too happily, though that may just be because I enjoy tragedy.

Overall, I think it could have been a whole lot better. I've said this many times before, but there are fics much more worthy of Past Sin's fame (cough cough, go read Eternal, dammit, cough cough).


Moar obligatory RD:

As much as I disliked MLD, I'll admit this image is adorable.

Btw, if I haven't mentioned this, "Read it and Weep" is my favorite episode.

Last edited Jun 26, 2012 at 02:09PM EDT

@Muffins
Yeah, I'd say that Past Sins is quite a bit more deserving of its fame than MLD.
I just read MLD about a week ago and was honestly surprised at how much it bothered me.
Considering the amount of content that's been generated around it, the actual story was pretty weakly written and not exactly engrossing.

Have some Ninja Dash in honor of your favorite episode:

@Iamslow

CONGRATULATIONS THIS HAS BEEN THE LONGEST THREAD IN KYM HISTORY
I DONT REMEMBER ANY OTHER THREAD BEING THIS DAMN LONG.
unless there was another pony thread that was longer…
I usually don't pay attention to them.

Ann Hiro wrote:

CONGRATULATIONS THIS HAS BEEN THE LONGEST THREAD IN KYM HISTORY
I DONT REMEMBER ANY OTHER THREAD BEING THIS DAMN LONG.
unless there was another pony thread that was longer…
I usually don't pay attention to them.

We've had 4 other threads that each went up to 200 pages long. This one is ending at page 200 as well.

Relevant:


@Hackenbacker
Make sure you send it in to EqD. That way we can organize some kind of effort to send them a card or money or something.

Last edited Jun 26, 2012 at 03:52PM EDT

@whitishcollar
Greetings…
Welcome to hell the forums.
We are a lively bunch, as you see. Being a lurker, you're probably familiar with some of our crew here. Solaire was pretty spot on with the introductions for any you don't know. I would suggest Connor the Brony's forum user guide for more information on some of the other people (he has to add a few).
Anyway, I hope your stay here is a pleasant one. Follow the rules, and be nice.
Oh, and there's one more thing:
do not mention what happened to Derpy
I should know this better than everyone else. People get butthurt like nobody's buisness, and there's karmabombing everywhere. Such an arguement actually drove away (mostly) one of our respectable users, CitationNeeded.
So, yeah, have fun.


Back to PARTY.MOV…

I can pretty much describe me watching any .MOV like this:

I watch it only because of curiosity on how bad. It's honestly very very crude and unnerving humor, but it's something you feel like you have to see. Now, I admit, it sometimes has it's moments, but for the most part, it's just weird.

@Pinkimena
And I thought you were insane…

Last edited Jun 26, 2012 at 06:42PM EDT

Brony Bios have been alphabetized and had all the new members' bios added.

If you see any errors please post on my wall (or PM me) about them. Make sure all the info in your bio is correct. I also may have lost one or two when I was cutting and pasting earlier, tell me if you see one missing. (Ideo's was left out on purpose, he's not here enough to warrant being on the list.)

Last edited Jun 26, 2012 at 08:50PM EDT

@pheonix
If Christiano was a faggot, then why do I look like him?
Christianity:1
Pheonix:0

@party.mov
That was brilliant! Spike is really the star of the show though.

New .mov already? Didn't expect it to be documentary-style. +1 creativity points for hotdiggedydemon.

Yeah, I still find his brand of humour to be unfunny, and the art style is (intentionally) creepy and unaesthetically pleasing as ever. But he does put a lot of work into it, and I can definitely see the appeal to others (coughcough dac) who like this kind of stuff.

I can't believe he ruined the almost touching ending with a lame joke like that.

So in Party.mov, the scene where pinkie holds up the vodka had some strange apple patterns at the bottom of the glass… well someone decoded it….

See, apples with holes in it are "L", Apples to the side are "E", apples split diagonally left are "P", etc.

mfw I see this

HEY KIDS, YOU KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS?!

"Time for you to find a new running gag?"

…Well yes, BUT IT'S ALSO TIME FOR THE LATEST INSTALLMENT OF: TAKASHI'S PONY PARODIES!!

And Today's comes from a song by a band that I'm 99% certain that NONE OF YOU HAVE EVER HEARD OF!

/ReluctantHipster

I've recently discovered Battleplan by Derdian, and it's quickly worked its way up into my top favorites. From the lyrics I've read, it sounds like it's about some guy trying to kill some important kingly guy named Exhentar.

I read it and got the idea of a pony parody about Nightmare Moon plotting to overthrow Celestia both using Discord as a distraction and her own night guard, and it kinda spiraled from there.

Prepare your brains's anuses, because I'm about to give you a glimpse into Nightmare's plan!

The battle plan goes through my head
I have already planned to conquer the all the heav'ns!
He'll be released within tonight
Forcing Celestia to fight

What I've prepared is just unfair
But I don t care about it because my night will prevail
The stars above will fall and bring death for all
Defeating her gives me control!

(My royal subjects ignore my arts)
And her behaviour is so false
(I'll show them all, I'll make them love the night)
No pity, no remorse, no fear and no retreat!

I've got a plan to kill Celestia
She's daring to obscure my fame
He'll try the tear, she'll try the despair I need
To impede her fate
I will propose a false alliance
Deceiving Discord and then
She'll be surprised, (She'll be surprised!)
My sister will die! (Sister will die!)
And I'll bring everlasting niiiiiiiiiight!
(And she'll bring everlasting niiiiiiiight!)

I don't know why he said to be
A friend of mine, an old ally
I don't remember who is he
I only know he's just a pawn to me!*
I'll hide and wait until she says
that finally she'll meet at the place
I wanna see the blood upon her face
Even if it causes the extinction of our race!

(I'll call her to chase Discord down)
But by then he will be bound!
(Instead I'll wait for her in the Everfree forest)
No pity, no remorse, no fear and no retreat!

I've got a plan to kill Celestia
She's daring to obscure my fame
He'll try the tear, she'll try the despair I need
To impede her fate
I will propose a false alliance
Deceiving Discord and then
She'll be surprised, (She'll be surprised!)
My sister will die! (Sister will die!)
And I'll bring everlasting niiiiiiiiiight!
(And she'll bring everlasting niiiiiiiight!)

[KICKASS GUITAR SOLO]

I've got a plan to kill Celestia
She's daring to obscure my fame
He'll try the tear, she'll try the despair I need
To impede her fate
I will propose a false alliance
Deceiving Discord and then
She'll be surprised, (She'll be surprised!)
My sister will die! (Sister will die!)
And I'll bring everlasting niiiiiiiiiight!
(And she'll bring everlasting niiiiiiiight!)

*Note: Luna's transforming into Nightmare Moon, her hatred and envy towards Celestia's taking over her functions and she's starting to forget about everything else. She's forgotten why she hates Discord, but she knows Celestia hates him, so she's using Discord to lure Celestia into a trap. (Just in case it wasn't clear enough.)

Here's hoping I didn't use up the last post on the page so people will actually see it!

Last edited Jun 26, 2012 at 11:08PM EDT

Solaire wrote:

’Verbose is the local TL;DR king and a mod, RandomMan gets all the bitches and is generally the best guy ever, Algy likes fan-fics, Muffinator and I are clones (according to Verbose), Ric is a pegasus with augmentation bullshit, Popper is a Mandalorian with the hots for Chrysalis, Pyro is Nightmare Moon’s waifu (and vice-versa), Twins is a girl that’s been strangely absent, Dac provides the shitstorms and controversy, and Princess Celestia is best pony. El Slinker, Windigo, Zarathh, and everybody else are awesome bros that come before hoes.

STOP SPREADING THESE VILE LIES AND PROPAGANDA!

Dac the Douche Portuguese wrote:

@pheonix
If Christiano was a faggot, then why do I look like him?
Christianity:1
Pheonix:0

I seriously think that Cristiano has some sort of homosexual obsession with Messi, it's like he mentions him every interview:
http://www.goal.com/en/news/2898/euro-2012/2012/06/24/3197777/ronaldo-not-thinking-about-critics

@Solaire
I only was part of one shitstorm really, I pretty sure I have other traits that stick out…

@pheonix
If Christiano was a faggot, why is messi from Argentina?
Christianity:2
Pheonix:0

Solaire wrote:


Verbose is the local TL;DR king and a mod, RandomMan gets all the bitches and is generally the best guy ever, Algy likes fan-fics, Muffinator and I are clones (according to Verbose), Ric is a pegasus with augmentation bullshit, Popper is a Mandalorian with the hots for Chrysalis, Pyro is Nightmare Moon’s waifu (and vice-versa), Twins is a girl that’s been strangely absent, Dac provides the shitstorms and controversy, and Princess Celestia is best pony. El Slinker, Windigo, Zarathh, and everybody else are awesome bros that come before hoes.

That's like, the worst description of me ever. You completely neglected to point out my capability to over-analyze every little detail of every little thing in giant walls of nonsensical TL;DRs while highlighting my mostly irrelevant femaleness.

(I like how we're critiquing this thing he wrote a month or so back right now)

Dac wrote:

@Solaire
I only was part of one shitstorm really, I pretty sure I have other traits that stick out…

@pheonix
If Christiano was a faggot, why is messi from Argentina?
Christianity:2
Pheonix:0

That don't make a lick o' sense!

EDIT: Page Get. I dedicate this page to Applejack. SHE'S NEVER HAD ONE ALRIGHT! SO I'M GIVING HER ONE

Last edited Jun 27, 2012 at 02:17AM EDT

Suh-weet! Looky here e'eryone! Applejack dun' got her her own page! Now how dun' a'body paste dem dere images on this fancy schmancy compooter doohicky anyhow? Nevuh you min' honey, jus' figured it out on mah own.

I dun' found an image of mah favuhrite lezzbean pairin'!

Twins the Serendipitous Serval wrote:

Solaire wrote:


Verbose is the local TL;DR king and a mod, RandomMan gets all the bitches and is generally the best guy ever, Algy likes fan-fics, Muffinator and I are clones (according to Verbose), Ric is a pegasus with augmentation bullshit, Popper is a Mandalorian with the hots for Chrysalis, Pyro is Nightmare Moon’s waifu (and vice-versa), Twins is a girl that’s been strangely absent, Dac provides the shitstorms and controversy, and Princess Celestia is best pony. El Slinker, Windigo, Zarathh, and everybody else are awesome bros that come before hoes.

That's like, the worst description of me ever. You completely neglected to point out my capability to over-analyze every little detail of every little thing in giant walls of nonsensical TL;DRs while highlighting my mostly irrelevant femaleness.

(I like how we're critiquing this thing he wrote a month or so back right now)

I know this feel, I mean, this one is mine…
"Dac provides the shitstorms and controversy"
I'm sure that's not my only trait, anyways, I was just in one.

@pheonix
If I have to explain it to you, then it is just too complex for you to comprehend.

Last edited Jun 27, 2012 at 02:35AM EDT

@El Slinker
Yeah, that last picture is a bit much. Personally, I don't mind, and I actually like the pairing (or at least the way WhiteDiamondsLtd does it), but come on, not everyone on here wants to see this kind of stuff.

Could a mod please delete that picture?

Speaking of Applejack:

Last edited Jun 27, 2012 at 03:40AM EDT

Alright, geez. Goddamn, I wrote that into thingy a month or two ago, as a joke, and I still post it because I'm too lazy to change it and it's still a joke. If you care that much, I'll stop posting it and go in-depth with each post.

I won't, of course, because fuck you guys, I'm too busy being a bad-ass.

As for the AJ page, I'm pretty sure I got one for her back when she was my favorite pony, but she's so incredible that she can't have too many.

@Twins:

Come on, Twins, there's stuff WAY worse in the image gallery. That's just two ponies kissing, not enough to delete the pic or anything, and I don't really see the fuss.

I mean, it's nothing as bad as this pic:

Maiden Heaven wrote:

@Twins
It was all part of the joke. If it's much then someone please delete it. I don't mean to offend anyone. Even being a saboteur, I don't intend to offend.

Is this better?

Yeah, that's a lot better.

Like I said, I don't have a problem with the picture. It's just that there was a shitstorm about r34 ponies a while back sparked when someone posted a rather innocent picture of Doctor Whooves and Derpy together (right after the whole Derpy thing no less), and I'd rather something like that not happen again, although in retrospect, the posters here are a lot more levelheaded now.

@Explosive Laser's thread intro thingy
No, it's a quite accurate representation of this thread actually. We just be trollin', yo.

EDIT: Applejack on ALL the posts on this page.



Last edited Jun 27, 2012 at 05:07AM EDT

Just to say (quickly, before I'm late to work,) I don't want to see pony kissing either, but it's nothing so obscene that it should be deleted.


I have Twins' opinion on PARTY.MOV. I think it's a lot more creative than the others, but I still find the .MOV's mostly unfunny. I think I smiled more at APPLE.MOV than any later one. But I think that PARTY.MOV was quality-wise better in a few ways than APPLE.MOV.


Anyway, shall I use (Surprise's) poll for the new thread title? I'm still not sold on the methods of it, but I don't think people are giving it that much thought, so whatever.

And who should start it? Normally, it's a mod who does the dirty deed, but I feel like users without powers should be able to do it now (but we have to agree upon whom, so we don't have five users making a thread.) Pony General is a mainstay of the forums, and an incarnation of it has been on the forum for about a year now. I think everyone knows why there are 5 Pony Generals, so no one should complain anymore about the 6th one than they have about the 2nd one.

Last edited Jun 27, 2012 at 08:23AM EDT

Hey guys. After being outside in this hot whether for three days, I'm back (I'm also burnt, bug bit, and I need a shower). The only pony related thing that happened at camp was that this one lady said "OATMEAL ARE YOU CRAZY?" She seems like a nice person. Anyway, It looks like I have some catching up to do. I'm not gonna go back and read EVERYTHING, but I figure I'd better post something.

@PARTY.MOV or just the PONY.MOVs in general…
Here's my reaction to watching any of them:

Nah, just kidding.
Those movies are pretty messed up, and yet I can't stop watching them.

I just have come to a realization…

Wubstep/DJs/Electronica:

Classical:

Pop/R&B:

Country:

Pretty much all genres covered except…

Studio B

Y U NO HAVE REPRESENTATION OF ROCK!
…And no Andrew W.K. doesn't count.

@All I mean a pony that represents the genre as a whole, not a single song/montage/event.

Last edited Jun 27, 2012 at 09:46AM EDT

Twins the Serendipitous Serval wrote:

Solaire wrote:


Verbose is the local TL;DR king and a mod, RandomMan gets all the bitches and is generally the best guy ever, Algy likes fan-fics, Muffinator and I are clones (according to Verbose), Ric is a pegasus with augmentation bullshit, Popper is a Mandalorian with the hots for Chrysalis, Pyro is Nightmare Moon’s waifu (and vice-versa), Twins is a girl that’s been strangely absent, Dac provides the shitstorms and controversy, and Princess Celestia is best pony. El Slinker, Windigo, Zarathh, and everybody else are awesome bros that come before hoes.

That's like, the worst description of me ever. You completely neglected to point out my capability to over-analyze every little detail of every little thing in giant walls of nonsensical TL;DRs while highlighting my mostly irrelevant femaleness.

(I like how we're critiquing this thing he wrote a month or so back right now)

Tits or GTFO.


@Verbose

Just let mods do it. We had some users jump the gun on creating a new pony thread in the past, which always ended in shit and bad reviews. You should know this as well, as you created a pony discussion general before you were a mod which went to hell. Not to forget that the amount of users posting here is a lot higher than the amount of mods posting here, which is just you and me. Picking one of those users might seem unfair to the rest and every member probably has different reasons why he or someone else should launch the new thread.

So yeah, just use a mod. Going for fairness of activity, it only leaves you and I. But I don't mind Chris or Drpepperfan doing it.


Last edited Jun 27, 2012 at 09:46AM EDT

@Slinker
You wanna ROCK?!?!

(How did you forget this? I love this song!)
Edit: Holy crap! Hyper ninja'd!

@PARTY.MOV
I've been debating about whether to bother saying anything since I seem to be in the minority opinion here, but I can't understand the attraction to these things. To me, they are just so stupidly predictable and boring. The instant they showed Pinkie on that guy's lap, I knew they were going to make that 'joke' at the end. I hoped they wouldn't, but yeah…
The 'Behind the Music' angle was a bit more creative than his usual fare, but after the initial scene, all the novelty was already gone.

Last edited Jun 27, 2012 at 09:44AM EDT

SweetAndDelicious wrote:

@El Slinker
Forgot probably one of the greatest training montages of our time.


BITCH PLEASE…

@deadparrot
No, it's seems most people here aren't to fond of it either. Anyways, the humor isn't in how clever it is, it's just ramdom and such a departure from the real show. But not everyone likes that kind of humor, I mean, I think Mcgruber is really funny and so is your higness, but not everyone does. It's just my kind of humor I guess.

Last edited Jun 27, 2012 at 09:56AM EDT

@Dac and Twins

That’s like, the worst description of me ever.

I’m sure that’s not my only trait, anyways, I was just in one.

You guys think you got it bad? I don't even get a description

Now I know how AJ feels when everyone else gets all the special attention but not her


But since this is an AJ thread, here's AJ being happy. Also I really like this artwork.

Last edited Jun 27, 2012 at 11:13AM EDT

Thank you for the welcome!

The problem with AJ is, that she does not get the same attention as the other mane characters in the show, which has been proven by the episode analysis. Usually she gets less screentime and dialogue as the other ones.
Good example is the MMMystery Express episode where her lines were cut. In fact it is quite noticeable in this epiode that some AJ parts are missing, as she gets a total background pony treatment.

Perhaps it is not so easy to write an interesting episode for her. I don't know, but i just hope that she gets more time and more lines in the next season.

BTW: I love dat accent

@Whitishcollar
Episode analysis for AJ is weird.
In season one, she was the only character to appear in 25 of the 26 episodes (beside Twilight's 26/26 obviously). Every other character disappeared entirely for at least two or three episodes.
She missed out on more of season two, but she still has the second-best appearance rate having missed only 4 of the 52 episodes so far. (In fact, Fluttershy has been absent most with 7 non-appearances. Somewhat appropriate for her, I guess…)
That said, while AJ appears frequently, it is apparently for shorter periods of time than other characters, making her overall screen time rather low (beaten only by Fluttershy).
Aren't stats fun?

BIGGER VERSION

And about her part in MMMMystery, I actually like it better with her crime cut out. She could have had more lines, but AJ stealing a bite of cake out from under her friend would have been even more out of character than the fact that everyone else did it, too. It may have been an accident, but the element of honesty staying true worked better, even if it did diminish her role.

I do think that the primary 'problem' with AJ is that she is a little harder to write for, at least so far. She has her faults, but most of them are less obvious or less severe than her friends'. She's almost too level-headed to really be the focus of too many episodes, but that rationality does help explain why she appears in most of them as the voice of reason. (Not that she can't do more, she just hasn't yet) I'd very much like to see her get some more really solid episodes under her proverbial belt.

Til then, pictures!
She's Strong!

She's a total gamer!

And God damn, she loves apples!

@Popper, below
As far as I can tell, Meet the Pyro should be out sometime today (Finally! Yay!)
I assume it will pop up HERE when it does.
(Just wait until it's just four minutes of incoherent mumbling that makes no sense whatsoever.)

As for a 3D first-person pony game, I know someone is working on playable ponies in Skyrim which may be the closest to what you are looking for at the moment.

Last edited Jun 27, 2012 at 02:03PM EDT

@DeadParrot
"F### you I can eat all these apples!"



So, does anyone know when "Meet the Pyro" is debuting? I heard it was supposed to be today…


In other news..

Now I know we have Fighting is Magic and Pony Fortress 2, but do you think that a Modern pony FPS (running on the IW Engine, Frostbite, id Tech 3, or Source) could be made?
I understand TF2 because of it's cartoonish novelty, but I wonder if Counter-Strike could be ponified.
Now, I mentioned the id Tech 3 for a reason. Though aged, it seems workable. I played several games on that engine (Jedi Knight: Jedi Outcast, Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, MOHAA, Call of Duty classic) and I've seen a load of user-made mods. I would guess that ponies shouldn't be too hard.

Last edited Jun 27, 2012 at 01:53PM EDT
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