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KYM Pony General VII: Live Free or Twi Hard

Last posted Jul 06, 2014 at 04:08PM EDT. Added Apr 19, 2013 at 12:22AM EDT
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@TSG

We really need to get a dedicated spoiler tag.

We do. We've had several mod discussions about it and while most mods thought it was not necessary, I rallied to have it pushed forward. I think it's a totally necessary feature now that KYM is proven to be a viable part of the new-fandom-material-reporting process and laid out all my reasons.

Last I heard Amanda.B (this was several weeks ago) gave the idea the green light and we just needed an idea for a spoiler tag graphic. No news on it since.


@Pony merchandise in Auckland

Ponies? Sold here? In Kiwiland? When!?

I had to fly all the way to California to get mine!

Stunthead wrote:

Hey guys, It's me! You know, that one kiwi guy. Yeah, you remember.
Anyway, exciting news! I recently got my first real bit of pony merchandise from a Livewire games! There was so much of it too, like, there had to be a dozen Vinyl figures IN ADDITION to a whole bunch of Vinyl minis, and I got every single one of them… well, other than one Twilight figure. I left it in case someone came in looking for pony stuff to buy, and EVERYONE loves Twilight, right?

I didn't even really want the merch, I just figured it wouldn't be too hard to find a use for them. Anyone have any ideas?


burning_phoneix wrote:

Ok, which one of you Kiw-

OH! There's an idea! Burn them! Thanks, Burning Phoneix!

Ahhh… euphoric…


@Platus

@Lunar Protege:

I got a wife. My wedding roughly corresponds to the time I greatly reduced my posting on this forum.

You work out the connection. :P

@Blue Screen:

Don't lie, I posted about it many moons ago before in this very thread and you replied to it.

I BET IT WAS YOU!

Wow, the day before the premier and I haven't managed to watch a single episode yet…
I'm sorry, I've failed you guys…
I don't even know how I would watch it, now that I think of it, is it airing online? What time/timezone?

Biggest problem is that, for example with the n-word, only some groups get to use it.
That's a horrible double standard, doesn't make any sense (Surely if you've reclaimed it and it's no longer offensive, then it's not offensive and it doesn't matter who says it) and it defeats the whole point of reclaiming it if you're still going to get offended by it.
And you also say about stuff only offending you if you let it, I've found that to be far from true.
To use an analogy, you seem to say it's like swordfighting: If someone tries to attack you, you can block or parry. From my experience, it's been more like someone firing a gun at me, not a damn thing I can do unless they miss.
If I missed out an important point, I'm sorry, it's still kinda early for me, just let me know.

@Mark: Rarity is a tranny?!
readies shotgun, only to get shot myself

@CrashGordon:

You haven't watched ponu yet?

I think all the episodes are on youtube. As for the premier, it's usually put on youtube 30 minutes after the episode ends but if you want to livestream it, Equestria Daily has a list of streams and ponycountdown.com has the exact time.

@BSoD on insults
Eh, I have a couple issues with that whole concept.
Yes, context absolutely matters above all else, but I really disagree with the concept of 'taking a word back.'
Especially in the case of the N-word, I find it to be completely untrue.
Yeah, a lot of rappers use it all the time, but who else does?
When you have a word that only certain people are 'allowed' to use, you have not robbed that word of power.
Hell, you may have given it more power.
Outside of the internet setting where physical retaliation is usually a non-issue (and GIFT takes hold), that word hold tremendous power.
If you aren't black (and many times, even if you are), you are typically immediately jumped on for using such 'offensive language.'
I've seen plenty of stories of prominent people using it, even it context and without intending to offend, being forced to issue public apologies for daring to say such things.
That is power.
The fact that some pockets of people who 'should' be offended by it have made the conscious decision to use it themselves speaks more to the power of the word than anything else in my eyes insofar as they are intentionally changing their natural speech patterns to make a statement against it.

And by the way, I agree that a person has to choose to take offense to something, but you can't say that places like 4chan are trying to lessen the impact of those words.
The very reason they choose to conduct themselves like that is specifically because they know that outside observers will be offended.
They don't want to change the definition of the word (because then no one would care), they just ran a trolling joke into the ground to the point that people now consider it 'just a 4chan thing.'
(For a real life example, I have a 16 year old brother who likes to go around just saying the most intentionally racist and sexist crap he can think of all the time and usually as loudly as he can. The stupid part is that I know he is not actually racist or sexist, he's just a douche who likes to make people think he is because getting people mad is hilarious to him.)

For me, I just don't understand why it is necessary at all.
Why do you need to try to 'take back' a word?
Shouldn't the goal simply be to encourage society to move past the hatred associated with the word?
How is that accomplished by using it more?
It seems like actually robbing a word of its power would almost inevitably lead to that word being used less often.

I mean, if the whole point of language is to convey meaning, a truly powerless word would lack that ability and would thus go unused, if only for lack of applicability.
Just think of all the old-timey racist terms from 100 – 200 years ago.
No one uses them anymore (outside of satirical jabs at our own culture) not because anyone back then 'took the words back,' but because people and society simply grew out of the mindless hatred tied to them.
Autistic people don't need to go around saying 'What up, my autist!' to all their friends, they just need to continue trying to educate people on the actual definition of autism until dumb kids find some new superultraedgy thing to throw around endlessly.
I would much prefer to see people simply stop reacting to those words at all since, as xTSGx said, the ones using it are almost always just looking for a reaction.
Don't give it and the use will stop.

(I feel like I may be rambling here. 1 am is not a great time to try to explain my positions sometimes… Hopefully the point is clear enough)


Kewl said:

at least my dream didn’t end with Jesus killing me

Dang, your Jesus sounds like kind of a dick.
You should really hang out with a cooler Jesus.

This one is at least tw- KER-SPLODE!


@burning
Wait a minute…
You found a Livewire with one vinyl Twilight left?
OH GOD, YOU DIDN'T BUY IT, DID YOU?!
<div class=spoiler title="There is a reason she was the only one left…">

You may have dodged the proverbial bullet there, my friend…



JUST ONE MORE DAY!

CrashGordon94 said:

I don’t even know how I would watch it, now that I think of it, is it airing online? What time/timezone?

If, by that you mean the S4 premiere, there's usually four or five livestreams that EQD links to. The two parter premieres Saturday at 10 AM EST, and runs till 11 as it's a two-parter. Be warned, though: severe lagging, suddenly being dropped, and trolls hijacking the stream have been known to occur. I just wait until the Youtube upload, which generally occurs sometime around 2:00 PM for the EQD linked one. You might be able to find some other /mlp/ done ones, but I just stick with the EQD one (it helps I usually don't wake up till 3).

If you're referring to regular episodes, it can be incredibly difficult to find them on Youtube. I used to use a DeviantART Flash "game" to find them, but Hasbro has DMCA'd them. The old fashioned method of typing in the title and "mlp" seems to be the best.

Now, let the stress of my driving test commence…

@BP

Don’t lie, I posted about it many moons ago before in this very thread and you replied to it.
I BET IT WAS YOU!

You did? I must have forgotten. Excuse me…

[quickly throws all the merch in the back of a dumptruck and drives to the cliffside]


@Crash

To use an analogy, you seem to say it’s like swordfighting: If someone tries to attack you, you can block or parry. From my experience, it’s been more like someone firing a gun at me, not a damn thing I can do unless they miss

When someone shoots you, do you blame the bullet?

No. You blame the person who fired.

That's what you should be doing. Stop focusing on the words used themselves! That takes focus away from the actual problem: People who don't respect others


@DP

Those are all good points and I cannot really disagree with you. Getting back to the original subject matter, there is still no reason for me to suddenly take offense at "Autism", the word itself. Let alone take seriously the aimless ramblings of netizens misappropriating it

Why do you need to try to ‘take back’ a word?

Because it's being taken away from it's actual place in the english language. Autism is not an offensive word. It is not an insult. It is a medical term that describes a condition

It's exact definition is as follows:
"a mental condition, present from early childhood, characterized by great difficulty in communicating and forming relationships with other people and in using language and abstract concepts."

This meaning can only be insulting when incorrectly applied to those that cannot be proven to meet it's definition. Again, context. So theres no contest that all the people using the word as an insult are being offensive. Yet this is squarely no more or less offensive than using any other insulting word. To which all of them I can easily dismiss

To lay special focus on how offensive the use of "autism" is, compared to any other insult is to staple on additional weight and meaning onto the word itself. Thus making the word "autism" itself an offensive term than, like "nigger", cannot be used at all in any formal [IRL] context by those with too much privilege

And I refuse to do this.

Here's the kicker. It's not 4chan who are taking the word away. You are right that they aren't trying to change the definition of the word

It's everyone else who chooses to take so much offense by the word who are taking it! They are the ones changing it's definition into a pure derogatory term

Frankly I am more offended that a completely innocent word in the dictionary is being made into something horrible and bad that shouldn't be uttered because people allowed kids, kids who using it incorrectly, to commandeer its implications. Turning it into a terrible insult when it was perfectly PC to say 5 years ago

Truly the last thing I want is for the word to become offensive for no reason other than "4channers tagged people they don't like with it", that's why I choose not to be offended by the word at all.

Shouldn’t the goal simply be to encourage society to move past the hatred associated with the word?
How is that accomplished by using it more?
It seems like actually robbing a word of its power would almost inevitably lead to that word being used less often.

Yes, yes it should be. And we should encourage society to move past hatred associated with a word. But society is not perfect. It wont all use common sense all at once. The way I see it, society won't move past hatred in a word until someone starts proving that it wont upset the people it involves. Often this must first come from the people it involves

Autistic people don’t need to go around saying ‘What up, my autist!’ to all their friends, they just need to continue trying to educate people on the actual definition of autism until dumb kids find some new superultraedgy thing to throw around endlessly.

Thank you! That's the point I've been trying to make!

And where did I say autists should go around talking like that?

I would much prefer to see people simply stop reacting to those words at all since, as xTSGx said, the ones using it are almost always just looking for a reaction.
Don’t give it and the use will stop.

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Also the point I have been trying to make You said it better than I did as well.

See everyone? Stop reacting to it. It's that simple. Heres a test:

Did you take offense to this? No? Good, were on the same level.

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One more day one more day one more day one more day one more day one more day one more day one more day one more day one more day one more day one more day one more day one more day one more day one more day one more day one more day one more day one more day one more day!!!

It's time to not be mopey or compare cultural slurs and medical diagnosis's so that we can feel our shared love of ponies and other similar things. A new season awaits!

Ooooooweee, this is gonna be hype! :D

1 Day remaining! We have reached the end of the countdown.

:

"We are not of this race. We are not of this earth. Susan and I are wanderers in the fourth dimension of time and space."

Or in other words for the Broadway fans:

"One day more! Another day, another destiny. This never-ending road to Calvary; these men who seem to know my crime will surely come a second time. One day more!"

Skyman wrote:

Are your bodies ready? Last night mine was, because the ol' club painted the Fence. In the extremely likely event that you don't know what the CMU Fence is, basically it's a fence (in a very visible and heavily traveled area of the school) that gets painted every few days by whatever organization that can claim it in order to display messages to the university, usually for upcoming events (when Bill Gates visited campus a few years back, one club painted it like a blue screen of death). It's very thick with paint and as of today, pony things. Here is a more in depth explanation and history of the Fence from Wikipedia, in case you want to know more about random university traditions. And here are the images of our accomplishments:

We could only paint from 12AM to 6AM, and it took a few hours. We were playing whatever pony music we had on hand and it was very cold. Also, everyone had their plushies as you can see. The front of the fence faces a large open area of what is essentially our campus quad, but the back part isn't viewed as much, so we went did what we usually do when left with spare art supplies and… well, you can see.

The "Wrong Neighborhood" face happens to be facing the doorway of the busiest academic building in school, so a lot of people saw that they were in the wrong neighborhood today. The "Welcome Princess Celest" part was my idea. We also drew a tree on the back of Fluttershy's post. We painted the fence last year as well, the day before election day.


Tomorrow night we will go and eat a spaghetti dinner.
@Stunthead
I remember them days. Those days of being eaten due to internet problems. Those were the days.

Laud "The Bear Jew" Piestrings wrote:


Hey, if Rarity has false eyelashes… does that make her a stallion?

I guess I'm just that excited about Season 4!!! I don't want to look at spoilers, and I've been trying to find distractions from them.

>Rarity has been a tranny this whole time


Screw foreign language countdowns! JESUSHOLYFUCKINGSHITCHRIST ONE MORE DAY!

Oh yeah, almost time for Season 4!

Now I just need to make sure that my TV is turned to the Hub already and the alarm is set, I would be damned well annoyed if I overslept when I've been waiting a long time for this.

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UnKewln00b wrote:

Oh hey buddy, check out Equestria Daily right now

Hey, not bad at all. Bout time those old men took notice. I'm just back from the spaghetti dinner and we did no things unreasonable. Nope. Though I did shave a carrot onto my spitfire figure in a carroty manner. And @level4outbreak, very nice. I was hoping at least one person would know what it was. I may or may not have taken a few brohoof shots to go with my apple cider, so I'm gonna go, see you all when it's season 4.

edit: looks like even the hub took notice! we have ascended past gods, or something.

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T-Minus 9 Hours until new Pony fellas, for 9 agonizing months we waited and waited for the premiere of Season 4 of My Little Pony Friendship is Magic. After Season 3 ended we sunk down to possibly our lowest point, a year long time where anytime Alicorn Twilight showed up Bronies would flip their shit, The shitstorm about Equestria Girls, and even had to witness the fandom get so bored to the point where they started a shitstorm over Nothing (remember DWM? Lol funny times). But now tomorrow we can wake up at the ass crack of dawn and flip the TV to the Hub (or for you non Hub having peasants can head to a livestream or ugh, Youtube an hour after the episode has premiered) and unleash our inner child to the point where we start to feel embarrassed for ourselves, but in the end that won't matter as we're going to have an hour of brand fucking new Pony.

Now, it'll take a lot to cause this episode to have people start a shitstorm as big as Twilicorn but even if this premiere (and season) manages to cause a shitstorm so large in scope that it completely destroys the fandom I want you all to know one thing. I consider you all my Acquaintances.

Okay enough of this sappy shit, bring on the titties and booze!……..Neither of those? Well fine, just have a cute picture of Rarara

Best secondary pony ever!

Ashki wrote:

Yeah, don't think there's going to be anything that's going to cause that kinda shitstorm, especially when people are still complaining about Twicorn.

Twilicorn being made official ruler of Equestria while Celestia and Luna become her loyal advisers would probably do the trick.

UnKewln00b wrote:

Twilicorn being made official ruler of Equestria while Celestia and Luna become her loyal advisers would probably do the trick.

Probably, though if I'm not mistaken, I think the synopsis for the third episode specifically mentioned Celestia, so I don't think Twi is going to be ruling much of anything.

That moment when you're not sure if you should get 5 hours sleep or stay up and you have a lot to do tomorrow as well.

Also that moment when you don't remember 2 am…..(posted at 3:30am)

Edit: Maybe I should go to bed. My eyes are all:

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Tomorrow's the day. The hype train's been chugging along and will finally pull into it's first stop.

Kewlm00b said:

Now, it’ll take a lot to cause this episode to have people start a shitstorm as big as Twilicorn…

For /mlp/, it would be Twilight "purging" the Everfree Forest, turning it into her "kingdom." As for everyone else, I'd guess Twilight becoming the Element of Harmony and no longer needing her friends to shoot rainbow beams out of her eyes would be a good starting point. I, meanwhile, would sit back and enjoy the fandom tear itself apart as I write crackfics where Twilight uncontrollably shoots rainbow beams out of her eyes.

I consider you all my Acquaintances.

You know you are my very best, colleagues with whom I've had what can be described as a somewhat more personal relationship with than strangers.

…damn, I just remembered we're getting a new intro. The hype train still has a little steam left in its engine.

@Waking up at the godforsaken time of 9:45 AM
Why are you all Shiggying your Diggy Doo? It sets a bad example for the thread. Youtube exists for a reason, and that reason is sleeping till 3 in the afternoon, then watching One Piece and Pokemon so you can get an appetite and make condensed soup for when you watch the pone.

Also, I passed my driving test. Now that the horrible stress is gone, I can relax for my Thanksgiving vacation.

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All aboard the flutter hype train!

So does anyone want to synch up which streams they want to be in, or should we all just go it alone? I'd like to cuddle up to a warm, strong KYMer for this special little moment.


@Extisgex

Waking up at the godforsaken time of 9:45 AM

Lightweight. Assuming everything goes to plan (which it might not), I could very well be up 'till 4AM to see this. Plus I normally get up at 9AM for the roleplay anyway… speaking of which, I might be late for the roleplay later on guys. Sorry, but I'm not a machine, and even if I was I would still need to recharge once in a while.

Stunthead wrote:

So does anyone want to synch up which streams they want to be in, or should we all just go it alone? I’d like to cuddle up to a warm, strong KYMer for this special little moment.

I'll probably go with this one
If only you weren't so far away for this moment.


I might be late for the roleplay later on guys. Sorry, but I’m not a machine, and even if I was I would still need to recharge once in a while.

It's okay

Wow, feel bad for the folks trying to remain free of Season 4 spoilers that are watching this MLP marathon.

Yesterday Meghan McCarthy revealed that a popular background pony would be getting the Derpy treatment soon, as in getting an official name, official voice and a small role in an episode like Derpy got. Who do y'all think it's going to be? I'm betting money on Octavia or Vinyl Scratch, I'd like to bet money on Doctor Whooves but I could see Hasbro going "Hell no, we don't want to get sued by BBC!"

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UnKewln00b wrote:

Wow, feel bad for the folks trying to remain free of Season 4 spoilers that are watching this MLP marathon.

Yesterday Meghan McCarthy revealed that a popular background pony would be getting the Derpy treatment soon, as in getting an official name, official voice and a small role in an episode like Derpy got. Who do y'all think it's going to be? I'm betting money on Octavia or Vinyl Scratch, I'd like to bet money on Doctor Whooves but I could see Hasbro going "Hell no, we don't want to get sued by BBC!"

Lol, I just woke up, so I didn't see any major spoilers during the marathon.

So I'm curious, since there's a Summer Sun deal, is there a deal for Luna as well?

Celestia and Luna are supposed to be co rulers after all.

Also, Twilight can also teleport as well, though lulz, guess she forgot about that again.

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Ashki wrote:

IT'S HAPPENING!

Why commercials, Y U have John Cena?!

Because John Cena is the Hulk Hogan of whatever era of wrestling we are currently in.


Also, shit's nice so far. I like how they're actually using things from the past, like Pinkie Sense and dark magic. I'll go back to watching now.

Jimmy 3, People 0 wrote:

Because John Cena is the Hulk Hogan of whatever era of wrestling we are currently in.


Also, shit's nice so far. I like how they're actually using things from the past, like Pinkie Sense and dark magic. I'll go back to watching now.

Except more sucky since Hogan eventually turned heel.

Also, yeah, figured this being a flashback, unfortunately since I dig Nightmare Moon more then the other villains.

20% Cooler than Ice Rinsankajugin wrote:

Holy shit, this premier is AWESOME!!!


I honestly hope that it's Vinyl. Also, I just thought of something. If Grey DeLisle did Derpy's voice in Epic Rage Time, and if Nowacking voices Vinyl in those videos… It's very possible that Nowacking can be Vinyl's canon voice actress.

Commercials, plz stop with John Cena, no one with an ounce of common sense in professional wrestling likes him.

Also, dat John de Lancie, hope this is not just his only appearance, but I guess we'll see if he sings during this episode.

Also, hope they intend on letting that Rockodile go later, cause just leaving it like that seems bad.

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That potion could be used in so many terrible ways.

"Oooh. Princess Celestia and Princess Luna's most embarrassing moments.."

Sonata Dusk wrote:

That potion could be used in so many terrible ways.

"Oooh. Princess Celestia and Princess Luna's most embarrassing moments.."

Guess that's why only Alicorns can access it.

Ashki wrote:

Commercials, plz stop with John Cena, no one with an ounce of common sense in professional wrestling likes him.

Also, dat John de Lancie, hope this is not just his only appearance, but I guess we'll see if he sings during this episode.

Also, hope they intend on letting that Rockodile go later, cause just leaving it like that seems bad.

Also, the line "Five Knuckle Shuffle in your face!" Apparently, they don't know what five knuckle shuffle actually means.

Jimmy 3, People 0 wrote:

Also, the line "Five Knuckle Shuffle in your face!" Apparently, they don't know what five knuckle shuffle actually means.

Well, as I said, no one with an ounce of comment sense. Cena has no comment sense when it comes to wrestling giving what seems to be his constant being a face.

Also, does this mean that their leaving the elements with the tree permently, since it seems like it dies without them?

Oh Discord, you so sneaky.

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