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Well, I just watched the premiere. I'm not gonna post any spoilers about it or anything (I'm sure at least one other person hates spoilers like I do), but I am going to say I enjoyed it quite a bit. Lots of little throwbacks to previous episodes, and a pretty obvious setup for what the rest of the season will be about. Also, lots of really neat backstory included. I'd say it was better than the Season 3 premiere, but maybe not better than Season 2's. A good couple episodes though, I'm really looking forward to seeing more!

@CrashGordon94:
Yes, definitely watch the other episodes first. I think you'd appreciate the new ones a lot more if you have some background knowledge about what's going on ahead of time. You can't really just jump into these ones.

Oh my god, Discord. All that back story AND revealing of where the elements of harmony came from and you still stole the show. (and saved it as a gif apparently). Good job.

Twilight's scepter cracked me up by the way.

While Nightmare is my favorite out of the villains, yeah, Discord is great and will always be great in the scenes he's involved in.

So that new season…

No, I legitimately am getting sick of the show pulling these kinda stunts.
This episode was a perfect example of that.
stop thumbing down pls :<

That was probably two of the best episodes I've seen a while. Awesome job, DHX!

@Crash: Why not just watch the series in order all the way through. It's funner marathoning that way. :D

Also, I agree with you and DP about the situation.

@Kewln00b: Reminds me of this picture:

Oh, and looking for it, I also found this:

This just adds to the chicken joke, doesn't it?

@Previous episodes: Sure thing then, will watch 'em!

Rin: That might be a point since I'm in less of a "rush" now. Though admittedly I kinda want to get to the new episodes sooner as well.

Speaking of new stuff I HAVE seen, I just watched

@Crash: Thanks, now I'm going to be watching Scoots bob her head back and forth for a while now.

It's kinda like playing Cooking Clicker. Can't stop.

Helloooooooo new avatar.

Edit: Oh hey, a refresh of the page and they move in time. Edit again: and back to not moving in time. Guess it's just random.

Ah good, speaking of which, I see my name and avatar updated. Yeah, sorry about the constant shifting of names and pictures, I can't help myself.

MORE HEADBOBBING YOU SAY?

And wow, I inspired someone to change their avatar, w00t!

Actually you inspired me to change it twice now.

To bad you can't keep both of them at the same time since they're both great pictures of Scoots.

What if you made a gif of the two gifs alternating back and forth?

Yeah, that could work if you wanted both of them.

Yay!

>Cooking Clicker
>Cooking

It's a new game from the Cookie Clicker creators where you click on food instead of cookies.

Unfortunately I can't go back and edit my post for some strange reason.

I wish Deadparrot were still alive to see these Scootaloo posts, but I ate him.

I won't give anything away, because I'm certain there are still people who haven't seen the episode, but I'd just like to stop by and give my thoughts…

Going in, I had my doubts. I was certain this season was going to fail right out of the gate.

After watching the premiere, I don't feel that way any more. It was great. I think I'd be so bold as to say it rivals S2's premiere.

We should have listened to Twilight at the end of S3.

Maybe everything will be fine after all.

No, everything won't be fine because Twilight is an Alicorn Princess now and no matter how many times they try to reassure us that this is just going to be Twilight Sparkle with wings it'll never be right because it goes against our Messiah and lord Lauren Faust's original plan!!!! /end rabid fanboy rant

I don't know why, but I always thought the deal was going to be good, but I was one of those who weren't to bugged about Alicorn Twilight.

You know, I didn't even notice the scepter at first, but it'd be hilarious for it to fulfill a role similar to Plank.

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OH GOD HELP!

Oh, by the way, something else I noticed in one of the future episode teasers… yeah, this one might actually spoil your enjoyment of a future episode, so, Y'know, I warned you.

Okay, so at the end of the episode there was a short shot of Scootaloo Scootalooin'

Knowing the premise of the episode is Scootaloo dealing with her flight issues, there's been speculation on if she will end up flying or just have to come to grips with the fact that she can't force herself to fly (or may not ever fly at all). However, that gif seems to pretty strongly imply that at the end of the episode, she still can't fly, but instead chooses to wow the audience with what she CAN do rather than try and fix what she can't. Obviously, this is all based off of one short clip, but so far things are leaning more towards the end that me and Master Parrot were hoping for. So yeah… looks like Scooty Booty is staying grounded.

Yay! I finally saw the new episode! ten hours after everyone else

What can I say that hasn't already been said? It's great to finally see some new episodes after what seems like an eternity. Now we can finally discuss pone instead of, oh, I don't know, post random gifs of Scootaloo or something. Wait…..

What did I think of the season premiere? It was good. Really good. Can't say I was blown away, but I can say that this is a good start to season 4. The only problem I had with this two-parter was that it felt too short. That's a problem I've had with all the other season openers so far. I would've liked them better if they had more time to tell the story. My favorite part was seeing Celestia VS Nightmare Moon. I wish they spent more time on that part, but oh well. I also liked seeing Discord again.

Good episode. Would watch again.

Alright finally got a chance when I wasn't drinking or playing video games to watch the new episode.

8/10 not bad. +1 Discord bonus point for a total of 9

I always thought Discord was one of the coolest characters and even if he's not back as a main villain, I definitely want to see more of him

On the HAPPENING SCALE I think this ranks a 'WORST FEARS AVERTED' which ranks below 'FAR EXCEEDS EXPECTATIONS' but ranks above 'WE COULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS'

We've got Discord still being Discord (as opposed to being the 7th member of the main 6) and Twilight still being Twilight (as opposed to being Princess Mary Sue). Promising signs to me.

Also I like the graphical upgrades they've done to it. MLP now supports High Dynamic Range! Gaben would be proud.

Who's ready to spend the next fifteen seconds scrolling past my gigantic post?

Stunthead said:

I could very well be up ‘till 4AM to see this.

>4AM
>not staying awake until 8AM
>having to go to college that day at noon

Get on my level. I still haven't finished reading fanfics by 4, let alone going on KYM (singlehandedly the biggest timesink of my evenings).

@Premiere
I thoroughly enjoyed it. Particularly I liked the lack of a real villain. It's starting to get old when another super evil threat that hasn't been mentioned before despite being such a big deal just pops in to screw over Equestria. I'm also really happy they've finally gotten rid of the Elements. Not just because I've grown weary of their seemingly unlimited abilities (banish to the moon, turn people to stone, purge evilness) but because it also means fanfic writers will now have to actually think up resolutions to their stories instead of the plot simply being "pad out 100,000 words of the Mane Six trying to find the Elements that the OP's OC villain has hidden/stolen/destroyed-but-not-really-because-theElements-are-really-inside-of-the-Mane-Six-all-along-and-they-just-needed-a-journey-to-discover-it." The flashbacks were also great, especially because they left fanon virtually unscathed.

8.5/10.

Also, did anyone else notice the >implied long game Discord likes playing. It seems he knew exactly what the Elements were and what would happen, hence the "seeds of Discord" failsafe. For the "Spirit of Chaos," he sure does like extremely long and complicated plans.

>dat story arc
>inb4 alicornification of the Mane Six (so they can permanently represent Harmony without needing some jewels. It would also explain the "Twilight won't outlive her friends" comment. Notice she never said anything about Twi's immortality.)

RD101 said:

UNDERWHELMING AS HELL.

This show has too many fake outs, BTW.

Princess Celestia dead? 5 seconds later, she gets up.
The crocodile-thingy about to attack the Mane 6? 5 seconds later, they stopped him without even trying.
The weird plant thingies capturing Twilight? 5 seconds later, they’re gone.

And of course people think it’s the greatest episode ever. Downvote me if you want, but this was a weak premiere. It felt like nothing happened the entire time.

>killing Celestia during a flashback
What did you think was going to happen?

>Krokorok
Would it have been better if they spent a quarter of the episode fighting a oneshot Everfree monster that'll probably never be used again? They defeated it quickly because it wasn't very high on the threat scale. Like all the other Everfree monsters (Timberwolves, Manticore, etc.)

>Hentai tentacles
Again, the level of threat determines how much screen time it gets. You're also exaggerating with the "5 seconds" thing. I felt the pacing was extremely good, especially compared to the "reformation" of Discord or Trixie. But, if you disliked it, you disliked it. There's twenty-four episodes left in the season, you're guaranteed to think a few suck, and think a few are great.

Kewlm00b said:

Down with Twilicorn!

Don't forget to sign the petition, join the DeviantART group, and enjoy the cringe.

Tyler Bowman said:

It didn’t spark another forced joke like “Gak”

>implying the "Twilight's drinking cum!" and "Tentacle porn!" jokes haven't already worn out their welcome

Kewln00baloo said:

Or better yet, during Season 2 where they made us wait a MONTH before we got Lesson Zero after the Return of Harmony.

>that awesome feel when you finished binging on Pokemon just in time to catch Lesson Zero

Also
>Kewln00baloo
>Kewlm00b

Kewlm00b needs to watch out, lest he end up like Dash

Dontmess withme has A nine word name said:

I didn’t particularly care for the sonic sparkleboom… I mean… it was very forced, and if it takes anywhere near the skill that a rainboom does, twilight should have been unable to perform it.

It wasn't a rainboom, though. Twilight was performing a magic show (she lights her horn prior to taking off) during the meeting time of the sun and moon (in other words, twilight) to ooh the crowd. It's also set up right at the start of the episode with her trying to learn how to fly better.

RD101 said (again):

Also, I just want to talk about how I am sick of the amount of Deus Ex Machina going on in this show…A perfect example is the crocodile scene.

TV Tropes said:

A Deus Ex Machina is when some new event, character, ability, or object solves a seemingly unsolvable problem in a sudden, unexpected way.

How exactly is a standard Everfree monster an "unsolvable problem" and how is using an ability that Applejack has had since season one a "sudden, unexpected way?"

MLP has definitely had Deus ex Machinas (A Canterlot Wedding being the most obvious example), but the premiere did not have any. If you're gonna toss around buzzwords, at least make sure you use them correctly.

No, I legitimately am getting sick of the show pulling these kinda stunts.

Then go watch Pokemon, where you never have to worry about them blowing a fight scene, or a character "dying" because that shit never happens in Pokemon. Flashbacks? Pokemon laughs at your continuity and worldbuilding. Interesting antagonists? Enjoy the same villains we've had since season one. Actual conflict where characters are in some form of jeopardy? What do you think this is, Poke Wars? You never realize how good you have it until you've seen the depths that some shows can sink.

Owens said:

After watching the premiere, I don’t feel that way any more. It was great. I think I’d be so bold as to say it rivals S2’s premiere.

>2013
>thinking the ride will slow down enough you'll be able to leave

Mr. Goldner only slows down enough so you can get a taste of what freedom's like before he speeds back up again for another 24 episodes.

Leland Zero said:

I don’t know why, but I always thought the deal was going to be good, but I was one of those who weren’t to bugged about Alicorn Twilight.

I was one of the first to recognize Our Glorious Purple Overlady for the majesty and supreme hnnngness that she is. Eventually, all will come to realize the error of their ways and embrace Her.

@Stunthead
>might actually spoil your enjoyment of a future episode
>derps the spoiler tag so everyone can see it

Of all the times for an HTML error, it has to be the one time when irony would be at its highest.

EDIT: And the irony has been resolved.

I hope we're still not spoiler tagging stuff from the premiere, since it has been twelve hours since it aired and all.

I'm going to have to watch this later in a few weeks. I never really got myself hyped up at all…TBH, I couldn't get myself hyped up for anything due to struggling at work with no breaktime to relax at all. I'll probably have to re-watch S3 just to get myself back into it.

All I can say is I'm kinda (really actually) glad that they didn't use a real 'villain' and just used a 'force'. Don't get me wrong, I love villains, hell I'm a villain loving guy as sometimes I think villains are more interesting than the heroes themselves. But in the end I'd rather have what we got here than say just shoving a villain in there for the hell of it, like King Sombra (Whom I also liked for being a villain but not much as a character which is sad because he was the perfect embodiment of depression and despair itself. Like Meghan said if they were to develop Sombra just a little more he'd be a pretty damn good character/villain).

Besides, since that they didn't have to cut to King Sombra trying to get into the Crystal Empire every five minutes they were able to use that valuable time to focus on the story and the characters (the two things that really shined in this episode)….which is still a little disappointing as the ending (like all Two parters in this show) felt rushed….I mean seriously it's a weird time when you realize these people have a good 3 episodes worth of material for one story IN MY LITTLE PONY of all shows. Man, these times are a changing and I accept the change wholeheartedly. As long as they can keep this quality with the rest of the season I'll be fine……also, make sure all the mane ponies get at least one or two episodes. Seriously DHX, that was a low blow last season giving us two Spike episodes and no Rarity episodes. Also, Scootaloo episodes. For the first two seasons you guys fucking ignored her like she was Applejack, you owe Scootaloo and us Scootafags at least a Scootaloo episode a season.

Your Loyal Subject, Kewln00b.

P.S. Turn Applejack into an Alicorn next, I want to see the shitstorm that comes with that one.

@Extisgex

Seriously, I deleted it within ten seconds of it not working, so if you saw it then you just love me too much to let me tidy up the house before you come visit.

Besides, it's just an observation, not a leak or anything. The (possible) spoiler was only in the teeny tiny broken text.

@xTSGx

Yeah, I'm not to bothered by Twicorn, but Fluttershy will always been my Queen of HNNNNG!

@Forced jokes for Season 4. Personally this one is my personal favorite fad out of all those others.

I for one welcome our new Cane overlord.

So, are any of us going to talk about how it seems that this premier hints that there may be more attention given to recurring background ponies? I do love me some background ponies. I personally would especially love to see more of Zecora throughout the season.

And forgive me if I am mistaken, but I thought that during the last season we had a sort of unspoken rule that it was ok to discuss the episode without having to spoiler tag after it officially airs, with the logic that anyone with common sense wouldn't come to the thread immediately after the episode aired if they didn't want to get spoiled about anything. I suppose I wouldn't mind having to spoiler tag my posts in the future, but at the same time I can already tell that will get kind of obnoxious as the season goes on

Don't know about any rule, but I most certainly wouldn't mind seeing more of the background characters at all, especially if it's Zecora.

Well, after finally getting the HD file of it (And coming back after work) I was able to watch it, and give a Review, and Score of this Premiure.

So much to post, such little sleeping time!

Oh that's why. Stupid screen grabs.

Secret Butt Fun!

What? I blame the animators.

It's like they're straight up feeding the cloppers…

Somepony needs to shoop scoots in there. Seriously. That would make for much better levels of fanception. Scoots>RD>DD We need to go deeper…

I'm a few pages late on this, but:

Speaking of background ponies, a fan favorite gets an official name and lots of screen time in #MLPseason4

— Hub Network (@HubTVNetwork) November 22, 2013

I got an idea who it MIGHT be…

Still just a guess though.

On a less episode related note: Turns out one of the animators for Panty & Stocking has been a closet Brony artist for about a year. EQD Link

Finally, Boxxy confirmed for Brony Queen title contender:

Now for the show down between her and Tara Strong…

(I'm sure I missed something I wanted to post, but I need more skleeep. I leave you with cane.)

@

Dammit man, it's a scepter. Get your regalia names right before Twilight comes and alicornifes your FACE.

And the KYM fandom would be so blisteringly pissed-off if yet another character got turned into a princess.

Cane or sceptre, it's being noticed enough that we now have an article for it

Okay people, time to actually talk about memes.

1. What's the deal with this cane?
2. What scene does it appear in the show?
3. Why is everyone suddenly making macro's of it.
4. Yes, it's been ponified:

Details, ASAP

1. It's awesome.
2. It appears at about 31:00.
3. 4chan started it, as far as I know.

Here it is

/mlp/ made a thread for the sceptre here 11/24/13(Sun)17:47 UTC+13

That thread is a reply to this one made 11/24/13(Sun)08:23 UTC+13 in which OP just posted a straight image of the sceptre

Granted none of this is proof of a meme. Just that /mlp/ took note of it from that one OP and everyone started having a field day with it. It's probably just going to be another "Gak". Just a minor in-joke that cropped up from the left-over hype (We gotta do something with all the excitement, may as well make a random object in the show an exploitable).

It's worth noting that the results of that /mlp/ thread made it to derpibooru where they even made a tag for it. That explains the spread

Stunthead said:

Seriously, I deleted it within ten seconds of it not working, so if you saw it then you just love me too much to let me tidy up the house before you come visit.

It was just by coincidence. I had spent the last hour typing out my post and just happened to get to the end of the page when the error occurred and I could witness its glorious irony, even for the briefest of moments. It's a gift I'll always cherish.

Also, I never like it when people shove their garbage under the couch and close all the doors clean up their house before you visit. It just seems so… artificial.

@Cane "meme"
I don't know if I'd call it a meme just yet. Memes need to spread from one site to another and I've only seen it on /mlp/ (where it will most likely permanently stay and never die) and here (which doesn't count as this is a site about memes). Fandom-specific memes are also incredibly hard to determine as they have an even more restricted audience than normal memes do and that restriction impedes their ability to spread.

And for those interested, I wrote my weekly episode review. I'll try to do a review every week as they always seem to be popular.

@Kewl
You cannot eat me!
Only Scootaloo possesses the fortitude of stomach to eat what she pleases!

More Scoota-bobbing needed!

@Cane Meme
<div class=spoiler title="You want spread?">

How's that for spread?
The Twi-Cane has jumped to a completely different show, managing to appear in two massive premieres on the same day!
(By the way, Doctor Who 50th Anniversary? Awesome, as well! What a kick-ass day for TV!)

@Stunt's spoiler
<div class=spoiler title="And you know what the worst part is?">

Even Sweetie Belle got to fly!

AGAIN!

… little jerk…
And don't even get her started on that other one…

Anyway, yeah, that quick shot of Scoots does seem to imply that she's doing some kind of show with her Scooterizing and, considering the synopsis and the little clip from ComicCon, it very well could be that she's coming to terms with an inability to fly.
At the same time, a world where magical wings can just be grafted right on to a pony who never had them makes it seem a little weird that they can't do anything for Scoots…
Honestly, I have absolutely no idea how her episode is going to go, but damn if I'm not looking forward to finding out!

Just FYI:

PHZAAAAAAMMMMM!

People making articles for something isn't a sign of something being recognised, it's a sign of people liking a joke probably a bit too much or wanting to force a meme. I can guarantee you here and now that this will happen at next to every episode.

The episode aired yesterday, let's not make a second Gak right away. I'm deadpooling that article for now.

You're free to discuss it of course. And if you believe my action was incorrect, please state your reasons.

@xTSGx: That was a pretty awesome and well thought out review. I particularly enjoyed the cynical sense of humor that seems to thrive on the internet, and the review wasn't long enough to overstay its welcome. I would watch out for spelling and grammar errors next time, but that's all I have to say about that.

@ Cane Scepter: Unlike gak I actually think this one has potential to be a great meme and I hope it sticks around for a while. Do I think it's a meme yet? Hell no, but the scepter hasn't even been alive for even 24 hours yet, so I would wait.

I think cane is better than gak. Gak was made famous because of the fact that it just plain old annoyed the living shit out of everybody. Cane is a picture of a Scepter with a creepy Twi-Face on it that appeared for 10 seconds, I'd rather much meme-ify something that brought me some lulz for 10 seconds in the episode instead of Playdough's mentally ill cousin that annoyed the shit out of us because they'd play the commercial nonstop during every commercial break.

Oh, there was a commercial that irritated me, but it's not because of how much it was played, but the fact that it had John Cena in it.

I can see "Five knuckle shuffle in your face!" going memetic. It already is on /wooo/.

@Scepter:

Ok guys, what do you think is in the box? My prediction is that something evil is inside.

Cane is a picture of a Scepter with a creepy Twi-Face

Wow, and I started another page with a silly picture?