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KYM Pony General VII: Live Free or Twi Hard

Last posted Jul 06, 2014 at 04:08PM EDT. Added Apr 19, 2013 at 12:22AM EDT
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I get to decide the topic now, don't I? OK…
Outside of the Mane 6, who are families, siblings, and relatives (NOTE: NOT COUPLES OR SHIPS!) we see on the show (that have been either speculated or canon)?
I believe Cheerilee and Berry Punch have very similar appearances, and if they were sisters, they'd be complete opposites of each other. Oh, the sitcoms you can make from a teacher and a party animal…



I'm not the only one seeing resemblance, am I?

Last edited Jun 03, 2013 at 02:07AM EDT

Laud "The Bear Jew" Piestrings wrote:

I get to decide the topic now, don't I? OK…
Outside of the Mane 6, who are families, siblings, and relatives (NOTE: NOT COUPLES OR SHIPS!) we see on the show (that have been either speculated or canon)?
I believe Cheerilee and Berry Punch have very similar appearances, and if they were sisters, they'd be complete opposites of each other. Oh, the sitcoms you can make from a teacher and a party animal…



I'm not the only one seeing resemblance, am I?

That's been a thing in the fandom for years now but not sisters roommates
Berry's true sister is Piña Colada ie. SisterHood Social
and Cheerilee is related to Scootaloo

Since it must be mentioned, Derpy being Dinky's mom is the only fanon that I hold above canon. This is primarily because a Derpy/Dinky sadfic was the only time my feels were nuked from orbit. They're just too hnnnng/feel inducing for me to give up, even if it means fighting against canon. Thankfully, my fanon damage control teams have successfully stopped Sparkler from ruining everythi--Buck! Damn spider crawling on the ground in my peripheral vision nearly gave me a heart attack. Great, now I'm all itchy.

xTSGx wrote:

Since it must be mentioned, Derpy being Dinky's mom is the only fanon that I hold above canon. This is primarily because a Derpy/Dinky sadfic was the only time my feels were nuked from orbit. They're just too hnnnng/feel inducing for me to give up, even if it means fighting against canon. Thankfully, my fanon damage control teams have successfully stopped Sparkler from ruining everythi--Buck! Damn spider crawling on the ground in my peripheral vision nearly gave me a heart attack. Great, now I'm all itchy.

Why Would Sparkler ruin your Head Canon of Derpy being Dinky's mother?

Sparkler is supposedly Dinky's Sister.

Personally though, whenever I have to think about Derpy's Family in any sense… I invoke the right of temporal shenanigans.

Meaning… Since she spends enough time with a pony known for time travel. She's bound to have screwed up the time space continuity.

For example… Derpy could have Dinky… And then has Sparkler… But she can't handle Sparkler and Dinky at once… So with a quick call to the Doctor… She sends Sparkler back in time to be raised by her own mother alongside herself.

Essentially… Sparkler would then be simultaneously Derpy's Daughter, Adopted Sister, Older than Dinky, and still be her younger Sister.

In Short… Derpy + Doctor Hooves = Temporal Shenanigans

besides… If others can point out that rarity's Parents look the same model as her (Thus age?) then Derpy can get around it as much as she wants.

…Plus Temporal Shenanigans…

@Equestria Girls in theaters

None of the theaters in my area are showing Equestria Girls on opening day. I'll have to wait a week before I get a chance to see it. Will I watch it in theaters? I don't usually go to the movies alone, but if I can watch all the Transformers movies in theaters, if I can watch Dragonball Evolution in theaters, if I can watch The Green Hornet in theaters TWICE , then I can watch Equestria Girls in theaters.

@Fanon Pony Families!

Berry Punch and Cheerilee being sisters has actually been around for quite a while.
I first remember seeing it somewhere close to two years ago now on one of the first Berry Punch Tumblrs here: Linked Because Semi-NSFW

Now they have one big happy family!

Cute as hell, too!
(Berry and Cheerilee are sisters, Pinchy is Berry's daughter, Colgate/Minuette is dating/engaged/married to Berry, and Cheerilee adopted Scootaloo.)


Here's a big old dose of headcanon for Derpy's family: Linked because BIG
Very cute little comic that ties a lot of different pieces together.


Like xTSGx, I too really like the Derpy/Dinky relationship due to the sheer number of adorable/feelsy pictures and stories that have cropped up around the pair.
Pretty sure that the second fic I ever read (and the first that I liked ) was about them and was a total sadgasm.
I can't really say that I 'hold it above canon,' but I am certainly far more receptive to the fandom's farfetched explanations and work-arounds when canon seems to contradict it.
Anyone remember The Last Roundup?
(I know Derpy stole the show, but other stuff was going on, too.)

And that last shot is from Just for Sidekicks/Games Ponies Play.

Canon seems to be pretty heavily implying that Dinky is in fact the daughter of Carrot Top and that stallion, who seems to be known as 'Written Script.'
Luckily, the fans swooped in to save their favorite family and explained this apparent contradiction away by combining two pre-established bits of fanon.
Since Derpy and Carrot Top have long been considered friends/roommates, it was just assumed that this was Carrot taking Dinky on a trip while Derpy stayed in Ponyville, perhaps because she was helping to repair town hall… since she destroyed it.
It's a flimsy reorganization of facts presented, but I'll take it for Derpy and Dinky!


@Lunar & Temporal Shenanigans
Yeah, Derpy's already a pro.

Wonton time travel can lead to some odd situations sometimes.

Last edited Jun 03, 2013 at 02:50PM EDT

Laud "The Bear Jew" Piestrings wrote:

I get to decide the topic now, don't I? OK…
Outside of the Mane 6, who are families, siblings, and relatives (NOTE: NOT COUPLES OR SHIPS!) we see on the show (that have been either speculated or canon)?
I believe Cheerilee and Berry Punch have very similar appearances, and if they were sisters, they'd be complete opposites of each other. Oh, the sitcoms you can make from a teacher and a party animal…



I'm not the only one seeing resemblance, am I?

I posted something like this a couple months back.

Anyway, I've noticed Octavia looks similar to Inky Pie. Could it be possible Octavia is related to Pinkie?


As for Octy and Fiddlesticks, I believe Fiddlesticks is Octavia in disguise, similar to Abyss and Joseph Park (you know, if you watch pro wrestling).

Last edited Jun 03, 2013 at 03:56PM EDT

Jimmy 3, People 0 wrote:

I posted something like this a couple months back.

Anyway, I've noticed Octavia looks similar to Inky Pie. Could it be possible Octavia is related to Pinkie?


As for Octy and Fiddlesticks, I believe Fiddlesticks is Octavia in disguise, similar to Abyss and Joseph Park (you know, if you watch pro wrestling).

You're not the first to notice… People have even said they are one in the same. (A theory I am all too keen on.

What would make a better observation is that Inky's Color is just a little off from Octavia's color… In much the same way the Pinkamena is a little bit darker in shade than Pinkie Ussualy is.

And Pinkie was in Pinkamena Color Scheme before she saw the sonic Rainboom.

So Octavia… Is probably just Inky when she Finally got her Swing on.

Erm… Something like that.

I'd kill for an episode revisiting Pinkie's family and where they are now. I was so certain that we'd finally get it in the third season, but no dice. It would be interesting to see who her sisters grew up to be, and what her parents are doing these days.

Perhaps we'll finally get this episode in the fourth season. I'm crossing my fingers!

There are also a number of other families that are relatively untouched that I'd like to see in the show. Once again, let's hope the fourth season delivers!

Last edited Jun 03, 2013 at 05:09PM EDT

Lunar Protege wrote:

You’re not the first to notice… People have even said they are one in the same. (A theory I am all too keen on…)
And Pinkie was in Pinkamena Color Scheme before she saw the sonic Rainboom.


And I did notice that, but I didn't think they looked exactly alike (mainly because of their age difference).


@ Owens
I thought her family was still owning the rock farm, as shown in Magic Duel when Trixie stated she worked on the farm.


@ xTSGx
In my head cannon, since I see many of the background ponies older than the Mane 6 in the sequences of the Cutie Mark Chronicles, I think they're older by about 5-10 years. Plus, they have children, which may make them slightly older if the Mane 6 are assumed to be college-aged in the show.

Last edited Jun 03, 2013 at 05:20PM EDT

Lunar Protege said:

Why Would Sparkler ruin your Head Canon of Derpy being Dinky’s mother?

When Sparkler was first introduced as Dinky's sister, it caused the Derpy/Dinky fanon to take a serious whack. Derpy has usually been depicted as a young (similar in age to the mane 6) single mother. Sparkler's size and voice indicate she is of an age similar to the mane 6's as well. This resulted in either making Derpy significantly older (late 30's to 40's), which would contradict the voice(s) she used in The Last Roundup, or, as fanon eventually did, make Sparkler either adopted or a "big sister program" sister.

Disty wrote:

@Equestria Girls in theaters

None of the theaters in my area are showing Equestria Girls on opening day. I'll have to wait a week before I get a chance to see it. Will I watch it in theaters? I don't usually go to the movies alone, but if I can watch all the Transformers movies in theaters, if I can watch Dragonball Evolution in theaters, if I can watch The Green Hornet in theaters TWICE , then I can watch Equestria Girls in theaters.

The theater chain in my area is not even going to show EQG until July 13th, and none of the theaters in my area are going to show it (at least as of right now, maybe this will change if this movie suddenly booms in success). I wasn't planning on watching the movie in theaters anyway, but it's a little disappointing knowing I don't have the option anyway.

I never understood why people thought Octavia was Pinkie Pie's sister. Don't you think Pinkie Pie is the kind of pony that would go "HOLY CRAP MY SISTER IS AT THE GRAND GALLOPING GALA TOO?! THIS IS AMAZING, TIME TO SING A SONG ABOUT THIS!" besides….the colors are all off man….

Oh the Grand Galloping Gala is the best place for me
Oh the Grand Galloping Gala is the best place for me
Hip hip
Hooray
It's the best place for me
For Pinkie
With decorations like streamers and fairy-lights and pinwheels and piñatas and pincushions. With goodies like sugar cubes and sugar canes and sundaes and sunbeams and sarsaparilla. And I get to play my favoritest of favorite fantabulous games like Pin the Tail on the Pony!
Oh the Grand Galloping Gala is the best place for me
Oh the Grand Galloping Gala is the best place for me
'Cause it's the most galarrific superly-terrific gala ever
In the whole galaxy
Wheee!
Oh the Grand Galloping Gala is the best place for me
Oh the Grand Galloping Gala is the best place for me
HOLY CRAP MY SISTER IS AT THE GRAND GALLOPING GALA TOO?!
THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD MAKE IT BETTER
WOULD BE SHARING IT WITH YOU

UnKewln00b wrote:

I never understood why people thought Octavia was Pinkie Pie's sister. Don't you think Pinkie Pie is the kind of pony that would go "HOLY CRAP MY SISTER IS AT THE GRAND GALLOPING GALA TOO?! THIS IS AMAZING, TIME TO SING A SONG ABOUT THIS!" besides….the colors are all off man….

I agree, such comparison seems completely illogical.

UnKewln00b wrote:

I never understood why people thought Octavia was Pinkie Pie's sister. Don't you think Pinkie Pie is the kind of pony that would go "HOLY CRAP MY SISTER IS AT THE GRAND GALLOPING GALA TOO?! THIS IS AMAZING, TIME TO SING A SONG ABOUT THIS!" besides….the colors are all off man….


I'll jump on this wagon, too.
Never understood the comparison.
I'm partially color-blind and even I can't see the similarities that some people were claiming to see.
(inb4 Cinnamon Toast Crunch)

UnKewln00b wrote:

I never understood why people thought Octavia was Pinkie Pie's sister. Don't you think Pinkie Pie is the kind of pony that would go "HOLY CRAP MY SISTER IS AT THE GRAND GALLOPING GALA TOO?! THIS IS AMAZING, TIME TO SING A SONG ABOUT THIS!" besides….the colors are all off man….

Well, imo Octavia has been performing at the gala for years and Pinkie knows it.
So, if Octavia is Inky then who is the third sister?

@Crimson Locks
I have a feeling I'm the last one. Can I give you a different picture (of the same OC) to make it easier? It will take some time to get the picture though.

bioniclebrony? wrote:

Well, imo Octavia has been performing at the gala for years and Pinkie knows it.
So, if Octavia is Inky then who is the third sister?

@Crimson Locks
I have a feeling I'm the last one. Can I give you a different picture (of the same OC) to make it easier? It will take some time to get the picture though.

Actually another reference would be great. With the angle your current avatar is at it's a little difficult to see the details in the legs and such. If it's possible to get a picture similar to the generic pony pose that would be awesome.

I'm so sorry TT_TT


@Octie and Pinkie: The headcanon that the two are sisters was a headcanon that I wanted to bring myself to believe, but never could. Like many here, the color scheme was just too off for me to find it believable, and I don't think any ponies change their mane or coat color as they age (until their mane goes gray like Granny Smith)

Last edited Jun 03, 2013 at 11:45PM EDT

Crimson Locks wrote:

Actually another reference would be great. With the angle your current avatar is at it's a little difficult to see the details in the legs and such. If it's possible to get a picture similar to the generic pony pose that would be awesome.

I'm so sorry TT_TT


@Octie and Pinkie: The headcanon that the two are sisters was a headcanon that I wanted to bring myself to believe, but never could. Like many here, the color scheme was just too off for me to find it believable, and I don't think any ponies change their mane or coat color as they age (until their mane goes gray like Granny Smith)

Wait a minute, I thought you were working on my OC. Well, crap. What am I gonna do now?

Disty wrote:

Wait a minute, I thought you were working on my OC. Well, crap. What am I gonna do now?

You never sent me a picture for me to reference for your OC (or, at least I never got it) and so I just figured you backed out. I'm still open to doing your request as well if I can actually get hold of a picture of you ^^;

Crimson Locks wrote:

You never sent me a picture for me to reference for your OC (or, at least I never got it) and so I just figured you backed out. I'm still open to doing your request as well if I can actually get hold of a picture of you ^^;

Sorry, I should've just sent you the pictures. They're posted in this thread on the bottom of page 18. I'm too lazy to re-post them. Let me know if you can still see 'em.

UnKewln00b wrote:

You know what you should do Disturbed? Watch Ponies.

NO. HE NEEDS HUGS FROM PONIES.

@Disturbed Human
There, there, here's a hug:

Disty wrote:

Sorry about the wait, but I have my pictures for you now.







I would like my OC to be a unicorn. Keep the hat and beard. Sunglasses you don’t have to keep.

Color scheme: Gray coat, like my shirt (or like Derpy).

Mane/Tail style: color brown, tail braided like my beard

Gender: Isn’t it obvious?

Cutie mark: Having a hard time deciding. Just make it an hourglass.

Pose: Just a generic pose will do.

Post it here when you’re done. Thank you.

Picture 1

Picture 2

Picture 3

Ah, yes, here are the pictures. Apologies for the confusion, I wasn't expecting you to post the pictures in the thread, I don't think I was following the thread all that closely at that point

Either way, I will be getting started on this request tomorrow-ish

Last edited Jun 04, 2013 at 03:13AM EDT

@ Fifths
Wait, Derpy is younger than Cheerilee? I thought Cheerilee was the same age as the Mane 6 (Rarity's Cutie Mark story in Chronicles). These time paradoxes…


Here's my headcanon of each of their ages (as of the present in FiM):
-Mane 6, Cheerilee, and other notable ponies that were foals in Cutie Mark Chronicles are all between college age and early adulthood (before 22 years in human).
-Lyra, Derpy, Bonbon, the Cakes, Mayor Mare and other background ponies are older than Mane 6.
-Foals like Applebloom, Scootaloo, Sweetie Belle, and others in their class are between ages of 8 and 12 years.
-Younger foals like the Cake Twins are toddlers/ infants
- Other notable characters who haven't been seen in the past flashbacks, such as the Wonderbolts, are still undetermined at the time, but can be assumed to be around the same age or slightly older than the Mane 6 (I say slightly older as Spitfire runs an academy while R.D. is a student at said academy).


Does this make sense? I'd like to hear what you guys think about their ages.

Alright, ages? Here we go.


Mane Six: 20 or 21, except for Fluttershy who is 22.

CMC and other fillies and colts: 5 to 8.

Cheerilee: 23.

Lyra and Bon Bon: 22.

Derpy: 19.

The Cakes: Mid-30's (can't pinpoint exact age)

Cake Twins: Around 2 by now.

Trixie: 21.

Gilda: 23.

Celestia: 1,427 years, 11 months, 2 weeks.

Vinyl Scratch (as well as Ace): 24.

Octavia: 25.

Dr. Whooves: I don't watch Doctor Who, somebody help me out with this.

Luna: 1,238.

Cadance: 28.

Shining Armor: 29.

Big Mac: 26.

Granny Smith: 85.

Spitfire: 22.

Soarin: 21.


Totally related.

I sometimes think Luna and Celestia are actually twins and Celestia just calls herself the Elder Sister cause she was born five minuites earlier.

On every other Pony's age… I don't think it matters…

Since every story I even attempt to write has so many time shenanigans going on that age is technically irrelevant.

Heck, at one point I planed to write Granny Smith as a 1000 year old Witch who was once part of Luna's court for a brief stint when the Farm had economy problems, and retired to the Farm when she was done.

…She keeps herself alive that long using Hydra Extracts and other concoctions…

…Not a serious head canon guys, just one of the 12k things that are weird about my primary fic.

OH FFFF! That reminds me! I forgot I was supposed to fix Chapters two and Three now that I've made some changes!

Meh… Later… It's too late in the Morning.

@Jimmy Lethal: Pony ages, again. Ok… Well, that is very reasonable… But, what if Cheerilee is older than we think as Fifhts said? So, we would have to… to… AH! Screw it, I'm done trying to know pony's ages…

In another topic, Dan is the prom queen. King. Whatever.

Last edited Jun 04, 2013 at 06:04PM EDT

Jimmy Lethal wrote:

Dr. Whooves: I don’t watch Doctor Who, somebody help me out with this.

It's up to some debate. Considering how much he travels back-and-forth through time, it's likely he doesn't know how old he is. He lost count. It's just pretty well assured he's over 1200 years old (perhaps into the range of thousands of years old), making the Princesses about his age, or perhaps even younger than he is.

Last edited Jun 04, 2013 at 06:32PM EDT

Dizzy Spell wrote:

Man, only thread seven? I've been gone two years since the first one. Guess we're in these treads for the long haul, eh?

Well, we go for 200 pages before restarting, and we are on page 29 of the seventh so (6 X 200)+29=1229 pages of unadulterated poni. That's not bad for two years.

Platus wrote:

Well, we go for 200 pages before restarting, and we are on page 29 of the seventh so (6 X 200)+29=1229 pages of unadulterated poni. That's not bad for two years.

True but the numbers could be better.

HOLY SHIT you know what I realized? Since Cheerilee and the Mane 6 (or at least Rarity since they were in the same class in Cutie Mark Chronicles) and Cheerilee had that 80's look does that mean the rest of the Mane 6 had…an 80's look? MUST SEARCH INTERNET FOR MY NEW HEADCANON!!!!

Sonata Dusk wrote:

Jimmy Lethal wrote:

Dr. Whooves: I don’t watch Doctor Who, somebody help me out with this.

It's up to some debate. Considering how much he travels back-and-forth through time, it's likely he doesn't know how old he is. He lost count. It's just pretty well assured he's over 1200 years old (perhaps into the range of thousands of years old), making the Princesses about his age, or perhaps even younger than he is.

did someone say pwincess?

Last edited Jun 04, 2013 at 11:58PM EDT

I'm going to slowly try to pick up on where you guys are so I can just back into Poni, but here's Octavia for you heathens who can't recognize her glory.

Verbose wrote:

I'm going to slowly try to pick up on where you guys are so I can just back into Poni, but here's Octavia for you heathens who can't recognize her glory.

>Picks up where he leaves off
>Doesn't write a novel
>Posts pic with broken link
>Says heathens Can't recognize

Welcome back Verbsie we missed you

Last edited Jun 05, 2013 at 01:11AM EDT

Verbose said:

I’m going to slowly try to pick up on where you guys are so I can just back into Poni, but here’s Octavia for you heathens who can’t recognize her glory.

>"Here's Octavia"
>Derps the HTML

Man, you really have been gone a long time. Just make sure you avoid our talk of non-sexually jacking off.

I just now realized there's under two weeks until Equestria Girls. I don't think my body's going to be ready in time for the massive shitstorm that will cripple half the fandom. Will yours?

Skeletor-sm

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