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Holy shit, so basically "We know what we did breaks the law, but the laws dumb cause it's punishing us."

What a bunch of manlets.

So I wasn't gonna post about Activison Blizzard in this thread, but it seems the situation is quickly becoming a Political Issue. Activison seems to be aggressively pursuing adherence with Chinese state orders and are lashing out at everyone they can. A hearthstone streamer and tournament grand finalist, Chung "Blitzchung" Ng-Wai, was banned after appearing on screen with a gas mask and citing a 1 sentence statement of solidarity with the Hong Kong Protesters. Blitzchung, a Hong Kong native, was punished by Blizzard for this by them stripping him of his prize money, banning him from the tournament, and then banning him for Hearthstone for an entire year.

This has kicked off a massive shitstorm over the question of Chinese Government influencing Foreign Companies into carrying out essentially, State-Sponsored punishments and censorship. People are taking it as a chance to burn down blizzard as much as they can, and are campaigning for Mei to be made into a symbol of Hong Kong protest struggles so that they can get overwatch banned in China. In addition to Blitzchung, the two casters during the tournment were also fired, presumably because they didn't kill Blitzchung for his pro-hong kong stance, and this has led to multiple casters refusing to cover Blizzard events.

Politicans have also begun to weigh in on both sides of the isle, and both sides agree that this move was a terrible one to make. And to throw fuel on the fire, China has taken the initiative to make a statement on Blizzards official Weibo account, the chinese version of social media, with a statement that makes them look worse.

A short translation of it follows,

My translation: we would like to express our ‘strong anger and condemnation’ at what happened at the Hearthstone Asia Tournament last weekend. We also strongly object to the spreading of personal political beliefs during any contests. The contestant involved (Blitzchung) will be banned from participating in any contests, and the broadcasters involved will also be immediately stopped from working (under Blizzard). Meanwhile, we will, as always, be determined to defend the pride of the country (China).
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The Turkish assault on the Kurds in Syria has resulted in a prison breakout of ISIS detainees.

This is on Trump. His rescinding of US support for the Kurdish forces resulted in this.

Also, Turkey fired artillery at US base that Turkey knew was there. A warning?

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BrentD15 wrote:

Co-chair of Syria's Future Party was assassinated by Turkish-backed forces today. All of this while President Nero golfed.

Wow brent, you finally come out as a blood thirsty warmongering neo-con? How many more troops have to die in ANOTHER endless quagmire? Is it the WMD's like we had in Iraq? Or is it just in a fit of spite that President Trump isn't feeding military industrial complex as much as you want him to?

Team Arkos wrote:

Wow brent, you finally come out as a blood thirsty warmongering neo-con? How many more troops have to die in ANOTHER endless quagmire? Is it the WMD's like we had in Iraq? Or is it just in a fit of spite that President Trump isn't feeding military industrial complex as much as you want him to?

Betraying an ally that's been there for us for decades by leaving them to be slaughtered is suddenly okay to you?
Yes or No.

By the way, this wouldn't be happening of Trump didn't unilaterally order our troops removed from Syria because Erdogan told him so.

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Team Arkos wrote:

Wow brent, you finally come out as a blood thirsty warmongering neo-con? How many more troops have to die in ANOTHER endless quagmire? Is it the WMD's like we had in Iraq? Or is it just in a fit of spite that President Trump isn't feeding military industrial complex as much as you want him to?

For one, Trump sent more Soliders into Saudi Arabia, looping us into a new conflict with our now 3000 troops there. Second, there are still 1000 troops in Syria, still fighting and still dying in the conflict, it's just that we're abandoning the northern territory to be slaughtered by Turkey.

And none of the troops or military or anyone whose actually taken part in trying to resolve this conflict think this is a good idea, and agree that it'll ensure Us Troops are less safe, and are stuck in the war longer, and not shorter.

So please take your Republican "Support the Troops, But only when it benefits my party" and your "Give peace a chance, but only when i can use it as a bludgeon for my enemies", nonsense, and reevaluate your life choices.

Black Graphic T wrote:

For one, Trump sent more Soliders into Saudi Arabia, looping us into a new conflict with our now 3000 troops there. Second, there are still 1000 troops in Syria, still fighting and still dying in the conflict, it's just that we're abandoning the northern territory to be slaughtered by Turkey.

And none of the troops or military or anyone whose actually taken part in trying to resolve this conflict think this is a good idea, and agree that it'll ensure Us Troops are less safe, and are stuck in the war longer, and not shorter.

So please take your Republican "Support the Troops, But only when it benefits my party" and your "Give peace a chance, but only when i can use it as a bludgeon for my enemies", nonsense, and reevaluate your life choices.

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BrentD15 wrote:

Betraying an ally that's been there for us for decades by leaving them to be slaughtered is suddenly okay to you?
Yes or No.

By the way, this wouldn't be happening of Trump didn't unilaterally order our troops removed from Syria because Erdogan told him so.

The Syrian Kurds are NOT the same as the Iraq Kurds, They are two different groups. So you want our boys and girls getting killed instead? Yes or No.

By the way, we have pack treaties with Turkey. We break that by attacking them directly will make the situation even worse. If you think Erdogan is telling President Trump what do, then you are a fool and war mongering Neo-con who delights in seeing more of our troops killed for your gain.

We'll have our hands full with Iran, north korea and china soon enough. So why are you getting such a hard on to send our forces into another useless meat grinder?

Black Graphic T wrote:

For one, Trump sent more Soliders into Saudi Arabia, looping us into a new conflict with our now 3000 troops there. Second, there are still 1000 troops in Syria, still fighting and still dying in the conflict, it's just that we're abandoning the northern territory to be slaughtered by Turkey.

And none of the troops or military or anyone whose actually taken part in trying to resolve this conflict think this is a good idea, and agree that it'll ensure Us Troops are less safe, and are stuck in the war longer, and not shorter.

So please take your Republican "Support the Troops, But only when it benefits my party" and your "Give peace a chance, but only when i can use it as a bludgeon for my enemies", nonsense, and reevaluate your life choices.

The troops in SA is to deal with Iran. As much as i want us out of the ME, they HAVE to be dealt with because Nukes changes the plans. those Nukes have to be stopped one way or another.

As for Syria, Wow, you are clueless if you think the Kurds are going out with out a fight. I am tired of us fighting other people's wars. If we stay in there, you will say it;s about the oil, if we leave, you start crying that (insert ethic group) will get killed. So fuck it, I say leave so fewer of OUR troops spill their blood for people who can and has turned on us when it was advantageous for them.

A reminder, The Syrian Kurds are NOT the same as the Iraq Kurds, the Syrian ones are bunch of Marxists aligned group. I am not asking for peace, I am tied of wasting our blood sweat and money on places and people that will not advance our interests.

Team Arkos wrote:

The troops in SA is to deal with Iran. As much as i want us out of the ME, they HAVE to be dealt with because Nukes changes the plans. those Nukes have to be stopped one way or another.

As for Syria, Wow, you are clueless if you think the Kurds are going out with out a fight. I am tired of us fighting other people's wars. If we stay in there, you will say it;s about the oil, if we leave, you start crying that (insert ethic group) will get killed. So fuck it, I say leave so fewer of OUR troops spill their blood for people who can and has turned on us when it was advantageous for them.

A reminder, The Syrian Kurds are NOT the same as the Iraq Kurds, the Syrian ones are bunch of Marxists aligned group. I am not asking for peace, I am tied of wasting our blood sweat and money on places and people that will not advance our interests.

>deal with iran
I’d rather them be dealing with sa’s human rights abuses

Team Arkos wrote:

Wow brent, you finally come out as a blood thirsty warmongering neo-con? How many more troops have to die in ANOTHER endless quagmire? Is it the WMD's like we had in Iraq? Or is it just in a fit of spite that President Trump isn't feeding military industrial complex as much as you want him to?

The defense industry gave over $1.3 million to Trump in 2016 and (so far)$117k in 2020 cycle. Just sayin’

Black Graphic T wrote:

Does it actually hurt? Being a human-bullshit hybrid? Or is the smell the biggest hurdle to deal with?

That is a good question for you Brent. With your added mental illness of Trump derangement syndrome, life must be rough for ya. Seeing that Minnesota turning red in 2020 just is the cherry on top too.

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Kenetic Kups wrote:

>deal with iran
I’d rather them be dealing with sa’s human rights abuses

>JC is more concerned about SA record than preventing a nuclear war breaking out.

Boy, you need to get your priorities in order.

Team Arkos wrote:

>JC is more concerned about SA record than preventing a nuclear war breaking out.

Boy, you need to get your priorities in order.

lel
>nuclear war
since when did they have a stockpile?
iran’s just gonna be a longer replay of the invasion of iraq

Team Arkos wrote:

>JC is more concerned about SA record than preventing a nuclear war breaking out.

Boy, you need to get your priorities in order.

You know, I think a certain Nuclear Treaty with Iran would've helped prevent this, too.
Oh, wait. We're trying to scrap that to encourage Iran to make nuclear weapons, aren't we?

Also, ISIS prisoners are running free after Turkey's attacks.

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Team Arkos wrote:

That is a good question for you Brent. With your added mental illness of Trump derangement syndrome, life must be rough for ya. Seeing that Minnesota turning red in 2020 just is the cherry on top too.

"With your added mental illness of Trump derangement syndrome"
That's fucking rich coming from a guy who's only political belief is "Trump good" and has no idea of how to think objectively.

"Seeing that Minnesota turning red in 2020"
According to who? Are we just supposed to assume every close state will go to Trump?

BrentD15 wrote:

You know, I think a certain Nuclear Treaty with Iran would've helped prevent this, too.
Oh, wait. We're trying to scrap that to encourage Iran to make nuclear weapons, aren't we?

Also, ISIS prisoners are running free after Turkey's attacks.

Obama's capitulation to Iran was stopping jack shit. They are still making weapon grade fuel for the nukes. It was proven that it was a farce and you still think it would do anything thing. All they need to do is perfect the missile systems to deliver them and they will threaten the whole world. It was bad enough with Russia in the cold war, those guys are worse.

>Also, ISIS prisoners are running free after Turkey's attacks.

All I heard some were taken out and probably killed. but good luck proving any of what you or I think right now over there.

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PatrickBateman96 wrote:

"With your added mental illness of Trump derangement syndrome"
That's fucking rich coming from a guy who's only political belief is "Trump good" and has no idea of how to think objectively.

"Seeing that Minnesota turning red in 2020"
According to who? Are we just supposed to assume every close state will go to Trump?

That coming from you who in the "Orange man bad" NPC think is rich. I choose President Trump just because I know he is on the right path and that it drives the left nuts that they can not stop him.

Minnesota turning red is a good chance of happening. Just look at the crowds he drew there. Also with Hillary jumping into the race will wreck the Democrats so bad, you can not believe the damage she will do. Thus will allow President Trump can flip Minnesota.

Team Arkos wrote:

That coming from you who in the "Orange man bad" NPC think is rich. I choose President Trump just because I know he is on the right path and that it drives the left nuts that they can not stop him.

Minnesota turning red is a good chance of happening. Just look at the crowds he drew there. Also with Hillary jumping into the race will wreck the Democrats so bad, you can not believe the damage she will do. Thus will allow President Trump can flip Minnesota.

MN ain’t going nowhere
way too high a proportion of dems
also I’ve yet to hear you explian why a war with iran is a nuclear war

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Kenetic Kups wrote:

MN ain’t going nowhere
way too high a proportion of dems
also I’ve yet to hear you explian why a war with iran is a nuclear war

Because they have said so. Iran will shoot first and we will retaliate. How many millions dead and cities wiped out, I don't know. But when you can see them gearing up for a nuclear war, you should take them seriously about it.

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The tl;dr here is that the Turkish attack has accomplished in one week what our efforts at mediating diplomacy haven't accomplished in several years – a negotiated political settlement to the Syrian civil war that preserves Kurdish autonomy. And the Turks aren't going to be in the picture. Russia will. And I wish them the best of luck with their new lodestone, which they're taking on in exchange for influence that's important because…

… why, again?

I'm honestly stunned at how fast this happened. I expected a three-way catastrophe that had no good ending for Turkey and no ending where the Kurds lost eastern Syria, but this is stunning.

Trump is going to be smugger than a canary-fed cat and rightly so.

The role Russia is playing in this agreement, to me, underlines the real reason the US foreign-policy establishment was so bitterly opposed to withdrawal – they didn't want Russia gaining "influence," irregardless of the lacking significance of such. Bureaucratic inertia and complete TDS in trying to undermine President Trump.

Team Arkos wrote:

That coming from you who in the "Orange man bad" NPC think is rich. I choose President Trump just because I know he is on the right path and that it drives the left nuts that they can not stop him.

Minnesota turning red is a good chance of happening. Just look at the crowds he drew there. Also with Hillary jumping into the race will wreck the Democrats so bad, you can not believe the damage she will do. Thus will allow President Trump can flip Minnesota.

"That coming from you who in the "Orange man bad" NPC"
Name one instance where my criticism of Trump wasn't based on policy. You won't find one. I my opinions on a case by case basis. I supported Trump when he did student loan forgiveness for disabled veterans. I'm against Tulsi Gabbard's flip flopping on medicare for all. You can pretend I'm just an "NPC" who is reflexively anti-Trump on everything, but just know you're wrong.
Also Iran will never offensively attack the US. US military is far superior to theirs and they know it.

BrentD15 wrote:

You know, I think a certain Nuclear Treaty with Iran would've helped prevent this, too.
Oh, wait. We're trying to scrap that to encourage Iran to make nuclear weapons, aren't we?

Also, ISIS prisoners are running free after Turkey's attacks.

It wouldn't have prevented it. It was a naive deal that was crafted Ben Rhodes who, with virtually no experience in real world experience that would benefit someone who has such an impact on the fate of nations. A literal speech writer with a degree, not in diplomacy, politics, military etc, but in creative writing. Who, was accused to mislead the American news media to sell them the Nuclear deal

Hell it didn't even take Iran even a few years before they started walking the fine line, by testing two Qadr medium range missiles (which was against the UN Resolution), or that it was secretely developing advanced centrifuges for breakout or that they kept the amount of dirty water slightly over the limit that it was given.

At best it would have delayed the inevitable, released funding and relief to a nation which spends the majority of it's military budget on IRGC forces – the same forces which outright fund a variety of militias and terrorists around the ME.

I would just like to remind people on this forum that the whole reason why Trump was going to remove troops from Syria was because Erdogan told him to. Also, Trump has a prolific property in Istanbul. Don't you tell me there wasn't a conflict of interest.

Sanakan_ht wrote:

The amount of salt from people from Twitter are golden.
"Why endorse an old white man!? They should've endorse Warren cus she's a woman!", basically Hillary all over again.

Nice to see some people not falling for that nonsense

Mick Mulvaney boasts that Ukraine military aid was help up over investigating DNC and Bidens, and tells everyone to 'get over it'.


'They had to have it cleaned out.' -Donald Trump, referring to Turkey's actions regarding the Kurds in northern Syria.

Also, the "cease-fire" Turkey agreed to with Pence and Pompeo isn't a cease-fire; it's an ultimatum. Leave in 120 hours, or else. Trump just gave Erdogan, Assad, and Putin everything they wanted.

The Chamberlain of our Time.

Just a word from a veteran who worked with our Kurdish "allies".

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The only thing about tulsi gabbard that has me, shall we say concerned, is how much the hard right seems to love her. People who are hard supports of trump seem to want her to win and that seems odd. Smells like something is up, especially when sites like Brietbart and r/thedonald are pushing hard, both are known to have a lot of contribution from russia or former Soviet block countries.

Black Graphic T wrote:

The only thing about tulsi gabbard that has me, shall we say concerned, is how much the hard right seems to love her. People who are hard supports of trump seem to want her to win and that seems odd. Smells like something is up, especially when sites like Brietbart and r/thedonald are pushing hard, both are known to have a lot of contribution from russia or former Soviet block countries.

Tulsi Gabbard's #1 issue is ending endless war. Trump preaches about doing that a lot, especially lately, so that could be why they like her.

Black Graphic T wrote:

The only thing about tulsi gabbard that has me, shall we say concerned, is how much the hard right seems to love her. People who are hard supports of trump seem to want her to win and that seems odd. Smells like something is up, especially when sites like Brietbart and r/thedonald are pushing hard, both are known to have a lot of contribution from russia or former Soviet block countries.

probably the same reason john oliver told trump to run
they think she's a joke

The far right maybe, the ex-left turned centre right people like me look at tulsi and see what we used to find admirable in the left: anti war, anti censorship, anti corporate; etc while not hitting us over the head with the insipid identity politics bullshit that has infested the party since around about the middle of obama's second term and turned it utterly fucking toxic.

We didnt abandon the left the left abandoned us; Tulsi gabbard is the only candidate on stage that might bring people like me back and the way they treat her makes me think the left deserves 4 more years of bad orange man.

You think any of us who backed obama and turned to trump are happy being stuck supporting the same party that has bush cheyne and the rest of the goddamn neocons in it? God knows the main saving grace is that trump pisses them off as much as he does the worst of the left.

You know who the right really wants to win? Hillary Clinton. They salavate at every teasing of her jumping in and dream of the day when the democrats become so fucking stupid as to hand them the house and senate on such a silver platter.

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Greyblades wrote:

The far right maybe, the ex-left turned centre right people like me look at tulsi and see what we used to find admirable in the left: anti war, anti censorship, anti corporate; etc while not hitting us over the head with the insipid identity politics bullshit that has infested the party since around about the middle of obama's second term and turned it utterly fucking toxic.

We didnt abandon the left the left abandoned us; Tulsi gabbard is the only candidate on stage that might bring people like me back and the way they treat her makes me think the left deserves 4 more years of bad orange man.

You think any of us who backed obama and turned to trump are happy being stuck supporting the same party that has bush cheyne and the rest of the goddamn neocons in it? God knows the main saving grace is that trump pisses them off as much as he does the worst of the left.

You know who the right really wants to win? Hillary Clinton. They salavate at every teasing of her jumping in and dream of the day when the democrats become so fucking stupid as to hand them the house and senate on such a silver platter.

Honestly? I think you are happy with Trump as president. If you weren't, you'd be wanting to not vote for him. I used to think that supporting the right to stop identity politics was a wise move. I've since realized that all it does is substitute one protected class for another. It subs out people of color and the LGBTQ community as those who need to be listened to more and who need special treatment, and replaces them with Radical Christians, Supremacist Groups, and the Corporate Sector.

Though I doubt it matters much. I'm pretty sure we all know you'd be voting Red anyway, and just want to have an excuse to shield you from criticism and judgement over it.

Black Graphic T wrote:

Honestly? I think you are happy with Trump as president. If you weren't, you'd be wanting to not vote for him. I used to think that supporting the right to stop identity politics was a wise move. I've since realized that all it does is substitute one protected class for another. It subs out people of color and the LGBTQ community as those who need to be listened to more and who need special treatment, and replaces them with Radical Christians, Supremacist Groups, and the Corporate Sector.

Though I doubt it matters much. I'm pretty sure we all know you'd be voting Red anyway, and just want to have an excuse to shield you from criticism and judgement over it.

The best way to end identity politics is a new way foreward, the right and left are both doused in it

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PatrickBateman96 wrote:

Hillary Clinton suggests Russians are 'grooming' Tulsi Gabbard for third party run
And then…

Now it seems everyone is shitting on Hillary Clinton and it's wonderful

Greyblades wrote:

The far right maybe, the ex-left turned centre right people like me look at tulsi and see what we used to find admirable in the left: anti war, anti censorship, anti corporate; etc while not hitting us over the head with the insipid identity politics bullshit that has infested the party since around about the middle of obama's second term and turned it utterly fucking toxic.

We didnt abandon the left the left abandoned us; Tulsi gabbard is the only candidate on stage that might bring people like me back and the way they treat her makes me think the left deserves 4 more years of bad orange man.

You think any of us who backed obama and turned to trump are happy being stuck supporting the same party that has bush cheyne and the rest of the goddamn neocons in it? God knows the main saving grace is that trump pisses them off as much as he does the worst of the left.

You know who the right really wants to win? Hillary Clinton. They salavate at every teasing of her jumping in and dream of the day when the democrats become so fucking stupid as to hand them the house and senate on such a silver platter.

>what we used to find admirable in the left: anti war, anti censorship, anti corporate

Bernie and Warren have these same traits.

>while not hitting us over the head with the insipid identity politics bullshit that has infested the party

Bernie and Warren don't do this either.

>Tulsi gabbard is the only candidate on stage that might bring people like me back and the way they treat her makes me think the left deserves 4 more years of bad orange man.

Ah yes, all….. 1% of you

Here unfavorability is very high too

>God knows the main saving grace is that trump pisses them off as much as he does the worst of the left.

How is making people mad a saving grace? We should be uniting the country, not breaking it apart.

>You know who the right really wants to win? Hillary Clinton.

No right wing person wants her to win. They, and you can see team arkos as a great example, want tulsi.

BrentD15 wrote:

Not once does she refute her claims.

And she was endorsed by White Supremacist David Duke the same day she went on Tucker Carlson's show.

And let's not forget Russian state media endorses her.


William Barr's counter-investigation in to the Trump-Russia investigation expands into FBI witnesses as Trump's DOJ grasps at straws.


G-7 to no longer be hosted at Trump Doral.
Camp David is likely to be the next G-7 summit location.

What could she should say that would get you to shut your crybaby neolib mouth? Considering how much you love Hillary Clinton I'm guessing the answer is nothing. And candidates are not responsible for who endorses them. I was kind of hoping you were done with your red-baiting but I guess you aren't.

PatrickBateman96 wrote:

What could she should say that would get you to shut your crybaby neolib mouth? Considering how much you love Hillary Clinton I'm guessing the answer is nothing. And candidates are not responsible for who endorses them. I was kind of hoping you were done with your red-baiting but I guess you aren't.

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