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Parents really need to start looking at themselves and wonder if they are doing the best they can for their kids.

>why should every single person be in charge of things when they don’t understand them

Because the alternative is a few people in charge of everything that don't even have to pretend to address the people's concerns.

Or, we could have a few people in charge of everything that do what is best

I disagree there
there just hasn’t been an actual attempt to

And unless they are held accountable by the people, how will we make sure they do what is best for the people?

since when was any government held accountable by the people?
the key is to have a balence of power, and to eventually get ai in control, so we can have completely unbiased rule

What you're describing is a benevolent dictatorship, which has only existed in the realm of the hypothetical. Name me 1 government in which power was held by singular individuals(Dictatorship) or held by a group of unchallenged ruling class(Monarchy, Fudelism, Aristocracy), where people weren't made to suffer so the ruling class wouldn't?

While he did do some bad things, such as keeping women down and bringing back slavery, Napoleon was one
Huey Long was another one, though he was only dictator of a single provence, he still was one
Yan Xishan

Since they can be voted out. And the idea of an unbiased A.I. leader of humanity is A.) Beyond ridiculous and B.) So far beyond where we are now that it's not even worth discussing.

"Since they can be voted out."
Great. We can vote out one elitist who's beholden to big oil, defense contractors, and big pharma and replace them with a different elitist who's beholden to big oil, defense contractors, and big pharma.

Or we can vote for someone who actually gives a fuck, if only there was someone running who gave a fuck.

or don't vote for someone who is an elitist who's beholden to big oil, defense contractors, and big pharma?

Im quite surprised no one here has brought up the Superdelegate problem in the past months tbh
Because it actually fucked Bernie over in the 2016 election

well yea, because they got rid if super delegates after bernie complained about them. They are only a thing if it comes down to a contested convention.

Yes but the elitists are the ones who always get shoved down our throats

Which it probably will.

I think that's a very real possiblity by the looks of things.

unlikely to come to a contested convention now that its basically a 2 way race.

how is it rediculous?
it’s likely going to happen within a century
>they can be voted out
yeah, with other corperate shills

>how is it rediculous?

>it’s likely going to happen within a century

A.I. is in it's infancy still, with a wide swath of problems not even close to being addressed still, with A.I. being designed to run simple tasks autonomously rather than make decisions, and no way to know if the A.I. is conscious, much less unbiased, and with all A.I. designed to still require human input to even know the parameters of it's task, meaning the programmer is the one that gets to decide the biases of the A.I. with no way around this other than self-learning A.I., which is, again, impossible to know it's biases given that you can't know it's internal thoughts and it wasn't directly programmed, much less the idea of people relinquishing all control over their lives to an entity they can't possibly know is alive and one that does not at all listen to our voice or have even a shred of empathy, the idea of a benevolent, unbiased, A.I. leader happening at all, much less within a century, is the equivalent of calling the Earth flat. Anyone with even cursory knowledge of how A.I. systems actually work as opposed to movies can tell from a glance that'll never happen. A.I. isn't like in the movies, your conscious tech-god isn't coming.

>yeah, with other corperate shills

We have people running now that aren't corporate shills.

"rediculous"

Tulsi Gabbard is complaining about likely being excluded from the Arizona debate.

She has a whole two delegates. Joe Biden has 635 delegates and Bernie Sanders has 573. You need 1911 delegates to win.

Tulsi Gabbard right now

to add to this; there are only around 2,600 delegates left. She would need to win around 60% of them, meaning she would have to go from 2% national support to surging to around 60% support.
Biden and bernie would both have to literally die for her to have a chance.

Well they changed the rules for bloomberg, why not her?

Tulsi Gabbard isn't a corporate shill, that's why.
Also in b4 BrentD15 jumps in and call's her a russian puppet.

bloomberg was polling at over 10% nationally. gabbard is polling at 1 or 2%

Because he had the money to slap his face on every billboard, tv channel, and youtube video

"all the rule changes"
you mean how hey became more democratic from preventing the superdelegates from deciding immediately?
yeah, only Bernie wanted that

>yeah, only Bernie wanted that

no one is saying only bernie wanted that. Brent is saying that even with all the rule changes that bernie wanted, he is still losing.

The more this election goes on the more it's obvious that the democratic party I want, and the one neolibs like Poochy and Brent want, are two entirely different animals. Maybe you guys will go, or maybe people like me will go, but this ain't reconcilable and one of us is gonna peace the fuck out of this party post-election.

Progressive Party 3.0

>neolibs like Poochy

hahahahahahahahahahhahahahhaahhahahahahaha

You mean Progressive party 4.0

I'm just gonna accept that there isn't a political party who represents my interests, nor has my best interests in mind. It sucks but that's how it is in a non-representative democracy.

With Brent sure, but Poochy has been nothing but pro-Sanders this election cycle

This is what's wrong with politics. As Andrew Yang said, Trump is a symptom, not the cause of the disesase. If Biden were to get elected, what would he change? Nothing.

Florida woman charged with falsifying voter records.

Woman was part of the Florida First PAC, a branch of the Trump campaign's "America First Policies".

Remember to go out and vote in your primary today

And today on "We have learned absolutely nothing", the diehard Sanders supporters would rather exit the party than support Joe Biden, to teach the Democratic Party a "lesson".

Because this worked so well last presidential election, where the same exact bullshit happened.

Bernie-or-Bust supporters, do you want four more years of Trump? The man who's policies are the polar opposite of the candidate you claim to support?

Cause this is how you get four more years of Trump.

^
just a reminder..

It's ridiculous to suggest that Bernie supporters sunk Clinton. 25% of Clinton voters in 2008 voted for McCain and Obama won in a landslide. pic.twitter.com/SasGVNNlob

— Josh Miller-Lewis (@jmillerlewis) August 23, 2017

Biden would be four more years of Trump. Biden himself said nothing would change if he were to become president.

This is one of the reasons I was a fan of Yang. Not that I always agreed with his policies, and some of the issues I thoroughly disagreed with. But Yang understood the bigger picture, he saw that neither the establishment, nor the more radical "democratic socialists" or identity politics types, had the right solutions, as no one had thoroughly come to grips with the socio-economic realities on the ground, and the near future. Yang is absolutely right to say that "Trump is a symptom". He is right!

I don't know if Yang had the right solutions, I don't think he had. But, in my opinion, it was more important to have a more realistic framework of the larger economic, political, and social issues that are occurring today. And because I don't think they have the realistic framework, their solutions come off as, at best, a band aid on a gaping wound.

I don't think Sanders has the right framework or the solutions either.
I don't think the Democrats do. I don't think the Republicans do either.

But there are politicians in both parties that are starting to get it. Many of them are from the Generation X, and early Millenials. I definitely think Andrew Yang had the right framework of viewing the complexity of the modern world. That's why he's the only politician I ever donated money to. And I find it even more ironic that he is also from a party that I have long detested.

Trump or Biden
what’s the differance?

Well, shit.

It seems CNN has called Mississippi, Michigan, Missouri AND North Dakota for Joe Biden.

Time to burn this bitch down when?

So Yang just endorsed Biden
inb4 Shoe0nHead goes apshit