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According to the CDC 70% of all new coronavirus cases are in Europe. The reason why the UK is exempt is because they aren't party to the Schengen Agreement which means it isn't an open border for EU Nationals. Countries in the Schengen area can only close borders in extreme circumstances, which is why Italy did so.

Been sitting here for about five minutes trying to figure out what this means.

In other news, last weekend Donald Trump met with Jair Bolsonaro's press secretary, who tested positive for Corona yesterday.

Fabio Wajngarten, the press secretary for Brazilian president Jair Bolsonaro tested positive for coronavirus on Thursday, two sources tell @Cnn. Here he is posing with President Trump and VP Pence over the weekend #coronavirus pic.twitter.com/WQTHAbXCu1

— Matt Rivers (@MattRiversCNN) March 12, 2020

Just in case you haven't realized this election is 2016 part 2

I can understand this logic to an extent, but I would argue that it is underestimating how bad it could get over here as well, especially since Boris Johnson has announced that there will be now school closures in the coming weeks

Nah, it’s far different
this time Trump’s in ðe position of power, and dems are forcing a senile canidate instead of a schemer

Surprised no one's talking about the Federal Reserve pissing away 500 billion with plans to piss away an additional 1 trillion over the next two days.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/fed-to-inject-1-5-trillion-in-bid-to-prevent-unusual-disruptions-in-markets-11584033537

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ES9BZWiU4AAiARs?format=jpg&name=large

Can't afford M4A though….

All of this instead of actually providing a more aggressive COVID19 testing and containment plan.
Because Trump said so.

And now we're launching missiles against Iran-backed militias again.

Louisianan is postponing the Dem primary due to Wuhan Flu.

But that isn't the real reason they are doing it, they are just trying to screw Bernie. They are just using Wuhan Flu as an excuse to shut down the Primaries and just crown sleepy Joe as their nominee.

Don't think too hard on it. It's just his TDS resulting in him babbling from his brain damage.

so are schools, workplaces, and events canceling also part of the anti-bernie conspiracy too?

Goddam I really hate how they word those headlines. It implies that it is a give away when the first paragraph states: "The Federal Reserve said it would make vast sums of short-term loans available on Wall Street and purchase Treasury securities in a coronavirus-related response aimed at preventing ominous trading conditions from creating a sharper economic contraction."

Effectively, 30 day loans, I believe.
Don't know how that's compatible to m4a, which are not loans.

The Trump campaign has started calling Joe Biden a "rotting corpse".

To be fair, a dead body would be an improvement over the current President.

They're right, seeing that as Joe has the brain of a rotting corpse. Oops! Sorry I meant stutter! Just a stutter!

I genuinly don’t understand how you can unironically support Bernie, and not get that the whole system is rottten

Now Bernie needs to get off his high horse and start pointing that out too

1.) It still means the money came from somewhere

2.) It only boosted the stock market for 30 minutes

3.) Which means where did that money go? And how is the Federal Reserve going to get it back?

i don't understand how your reply has any connection to what you are replying to.

You’re saying there is no conspiracy to deny Sanders the nomination

I'm saying that the response to coronavirus isn't a conspiracy against sanders. You are just as bad as the people saying its a conspiracy against Trump.

Yes the money comes out of the treasury. I don't think it's intended to boost the stock market in the near term as it is supposed to provide access to credit flow for corporations. The money hasn't gone anywhere, per say, it's become available to borrow temporarily as a short term loan with interest. I believe they have to pay it back in thirty days. The companies have to offer up government treasuries as collateral, which means if the company can't pay the loan, the government still gains back the treasury bonds.

This isn't a hand out, and it's not a bail out. And it bothers me that people are fundamentally missing the diffirence between a loan and a hand out.

And I know I'm going to get downvoted for this. But it really pisses me off that a candidate that is building his campaign over promises that effectively increase the US federal spending by more than 80% while promising that he will make it financially work, is ignorant of the diffirences between a loan and a hand out. Sanders should know better.

Unless maybe his m4a plan also involves loaning money to patients, expecting them to pay it back with interest in 30 days, and putting up thousands of dollars in US bonds as collateral. Hmm maybe the numbers there would work.

>Yes the money comes out of the treasury.

Yes, that's the point, the money exists when we're told it doesn't

>And I know I'm going to get downvoted for this. But it really pisses me off that a candidate that is building his campaign over promises that effectively increase the US federal spending by more than 80% while promising that he will make it financially work,

It increases that much if you completely ignore all the unnecessary spending he's planning on cutting and the fact M4A is cheaper than the current system

>is ignorant of the diffirences between a loan and a hand out. Sanders should know better.

I don't think Sanders ever called it a hand out, you're just assuming he did because I mentioned M4A

The Democrats can barely even get Trump impeached, and yet they are somehow responsible for a Coronavirus hoax and denying Sanders the nomination.

Correction, it wasn't out of the treasury, it is from the Federal Reserve, which is quasi autonomous. This is a monetary policy, not a fiscal policy. This is what the current 1.5 Trillion that is being talked about: It's a Repurchasing Agreement

You can find even more information about this particular 1.5 Trillion dollar in liquid capital here

Even if it is a federal treasury that we are talking about the fundamental differences here is the trillion dollars that are generated as debt is used to make loans, which means they will be mostly, if not entirely paid back in the short term. Raising trillion dollars of debt that is not going to be paid back or regenerated substantially is only adding the debt further.

I am not ignoring the "unnecessary spending he's cutting", I've been quite clear, that the 3 trillion dollar a year already takes that into consideration. And it's only "cheaper" on paper. The reality is that it's shifting the cost of medical care from private hands to the public, that is, it's being paid out by taxes, and half of our tax revenue is from income taxes (36% by payroll which is already used for social security and medicare).

So why is it cheaper? Because 50% of America only pays 3% of the total income tax. So of course it's cheaper to shift private cost of something to a public cost and then have half the population hardly contribute to the actual tax-revenue necessary for that public cost.

That's why I don't believe in the numbers. That's why I think it's "cheaper" on paper, and not actuality, because there is going to be a need to raise the income-tax revenue dramatically to make up for the increase in spending. I can't think of a single politician that has ever promised a government spending program on anything and actually was right on the number in terms of spending. It's always, always substantially higher than what is promised or estimated.

Trump refuses to take responsibility for lack of coronavirus tests.

So now I gotta pick if I wanna support the guy who we know can't handle a major emergency from recent actions

Or take our chance with another guy who is breaking down mentally

What a fucking time to be alive.

Thanks for putting words in my mouth
the corpnavurus isn’t a hoax, it’s the result of an incompotent government
the dems couldn’t impeach him, even if they went after the shit they’re also guilty of because of partison bullshit

If the parisites were actually forced to pay their fair share, we’d have more money

Another insane curve ball for this election

Depending on how bad this virus is and how well Trumps response is Biden might land slide this

All income should be capped at 999999999.99, After that it all goes back into the government fund. No more billionaires = saving the entire world and leaving those people with more money then their grandchildren or great grandchildren could ever blow through.

A better solution is fixing the wxploits in the system, and liniting the total value of all inheritance to one million

Just musing and I wonder if anyone else had this thought.

But I am wondering if there is an unspoken plan among established Democrats about pushing Joe Biden through as much as possible, just to have him then step down either before or after the campaign. It is no secret that the Joe Biden's mental stability may not fit the strain of a Presidential office, we've had numerous examples of it. If by half way through the campaign – say late Summer – Joe Biden's mental state may be a reason why he'd try to step down. What would the benefit of that be?

It would give the Democratic party a literal do-over, without the necessity of the voter-turn out – at all.

Vox amused the idea in 2016 when Trump and Hillary were already chosen by both parties as contendors.

"First things first: Clinton and Trump would have to personally choose to relinquish the nomination to lose it."

That means, there cannot be a forceful removal by the given party. Keep this in mind.

"But if a candidate did decide to voluntarily step aside, he or she wouldn’t be allowed to pick a replacement. Instead, either party would use a system a little like the Democratic Party’s superdelegates, but on steroids. The members of the parties’ national committees would get together to vote for whomever they want. The candidate with the majority of votes from the national party committees -- which consist of 350 people for the DNC and 150 people for the RNC -- would then become the presidential nominee."

"If either Trump or Clinton stepped aside, the parties’ chairs would have to call a meeting of the full body of the national committee. We’d then have something like a mini convention -- except without any of the pledged delegates that are chosen by the voters through the primary system, and, presumably, far more accusations that American democracy is run by a tiny, elite cabal."

The benefit of this is that the Democrats are almost united by the idea of doing whatever is necessary to get rid of Trump's Presidency. A sudden switch-a-roo like that would obviously stink up the election process, but if such a system can present a far better candidate that has a much better chance?

Right now there are two major contenders. Bernie Sanders, and Joe Biden.

If the Democratic Establishment did want to implement such a plan, it would be extremely difficult to force Sanders to do it, I don't think he would go a long with it, when he's in the position that he is in. Besides, I would say he's far more idealistic, and would use such an event to fire up his own passionate base.

Biden however has an easy way out if he needed it. Not only is it an easy out, it's honorable, if he acts more broken down and "lost" the more he can make the case that he is not fit to carry such a victory and wants to give the party a much better candidate.

And so what if this happens later on in the campaign. Say, after the early voting starts?

According to the above article: "It turns out the party’s new candidate would essentially get the votes cast for the previous one. This is because when voters head to the polls, they’re not really voting for a presidential candidate. Instead, they’re voting to select the representative that will represent their state at the Electoral College, which in turn meets in December to officially elect the next American president."

So if early voting predicts a Trump lead over Biden, this would be opportune window to make the switch.

This could also happen post election, if Biden is set to win. If that is the case I'd be very careful to see who he selects as his running mate.

Clinton news newtwork is going to have to work their asses off to make him look stable
that or it gets cancelled

Bernie Sanders claims that the lack of rallies due to coronavirus fears are hurting his campaign.

Norway is dunking on us.

>Biden walks into 2020 being the massive favorite
>Sanders serges and slaps him down almost becoming the assumed primary victor
>Biden comes back from 4th and manly combines with all other establishment runners to come back into first stronger than ever
>2 weeks later a world pandemic starts throwing a new massive monkey wrench into the mix

Were only 2 and a half months this shit.

This is act 1 of a 3 act structure and its already more insane than 2016

Gee god the 2016 election sure was crazy how are you gonna top that?

"Check this shit out"

They have every right to, the us will remain a third world country untill we take care of gun violence and make healthcare a public thing

Norway is dunking on us…because we don't have socialized medicine. You know the thing you're against?

Louie Gohmert is holding up the House Coronavirus bill.

but it’s not rigged

..its not rigged.

why not post some actual evidence that this election cycle has been rigged instead of just repeating "its rigged" as if its fact?

I’m sure it’s normal to show the election “results” before they happen

Its not. No election results were shown before they happened.

did you watch what i posted?

yes.

so, what were those numbers for?

most likely internal testing to make sure their software and UI were working right. What do you think the numbers were for?

The “results”
it’s not the most credible source, and if you can deubunk it I’m open to listening

What do you mean by the "results"?
Debunk what?

Well, since you’re, once again, playing dumb
I’ll have to debate with myself
allegedly it was a test run, accordogn to the network

I'm not playing dumb, I genuinely have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. I'm not going to put words in your mouth by trying to guess, mostly because I can't think of anything logical thing you are going for. Like, was this random local news channel was planning to show fake results to.. because…… see? I don't get it.
Literally what do you think it was other than accidentally showing their internal tests of the software and graphics?