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BrentD15 wrote:

And this whole thing, of course, being the argument that Trump withdrawing troops from an allied nation makes him better than Joe Biden.

Meanwhile, we have an actual election to win against a tyrant, and I have no time for temper-tantrums from people bitter that they didn't get their candidates of choice. And Trump, should he lose, which he must, will do his damndest to stay in office with every dirty legal trick in the book his Attorney General can come up with from his bloated toadstool backside.

"Trump did something good, but the important thing is that trump is the worst thing ever"

poochyena wrote:

Putin is a brutal leader and a direct threat to the US. Ignoring the damage they cause is very unwise.

You're right and therefore we should stop raping other countries and instead offer them support, and get oppressive regimes isolated instead of supporting coups to get someone who our corporations like
I'm not saying there shouldn't be investigations into what trump does, I'm saying that while that's already going on we should be focused on more important things

Master Pain wrote:

I don't like the way government is run a lot of the time, but that doesn't mean I think businesses are better. USPS vs. private postal services is a good example of when government does a service well, and how it can do things that aren't profitable for businesses

I have a difficult time understanding that position.
According to the Government Accountability Office USPS has lost $69 billion over the past 11 fiscal years--including $3.9 billion in fiscal year 2018. USPS’s total unfunded liabilities and debt ($143 billion at the end of fiscal year 2018) have grown to double its annual revenue.USPS’s expenses are now growing faster than its revenues--partly due to rising compensation and benefits costs and continuing declines in the volume of First-Class Mail.
The USPS entire model is broken, unsustainable and over-burdened with promises made to Postal Service retirees – which by the way, is the largest problem a lot of public institutions and municipalities are facing. How can you say that the USPS is "government does a service well" when the service itself is completely unsustainable and demands public money to sustain?
The USPS entire model is deliberately precisely because it is so beholden to government (rather than investment) interests. MotherJones covers this in an opinion piece earlier this year, to summarize: the government simply does not let it reform or make drastic changes to it's own operations, speficially in it's inability to finance the pensions of it's retirees. Politico addresses the issues further: specifically mentioning that it can only fund it's retirement shortfalls through investing in US Treasuries which have a paltry return (for a decade now). For God sakes, the USPS isn't even allowed to raise it's rates beyond the fixed rate tied to the consumer price index. How can anyone expect the USPS to have a sustainable model when it's utterly beholden to Congress to decide how it's run!?

So why don't we copy the models elsewhere in the world then? Germany’s Deutsche Post, which also owns DHL, has been largely privatized since 2000. Deutsche Post has morphed into a large, competitive, highly profitable logistics group. In fact, the German Government owns 20% of the DHL, which gives it considerable revenue from profits (besides taxation), without having government involvement in oversight and how it's run.

How does one measure the value of an essential service?

Does one A. Look to see how well it does what it's supposed to do?

Or does one B. Look to see how much money it makes for the people who own it?

FFS, not everything has be be built to be profitable.

poochyena wrote:

Putin is a brutal leader and a direct threat to the US. Ignoring the damage they cause is very unwise.

The extent of Putin's threat to America is exadurated.
You're talking about a country who's GDP is half of California's. It's military strength is still largely dependent on decades old equipment that hasn't been truly tested in a modern conflict. It's Navy is absolutely paltry in comparison – it's only carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov was effectively destroyed, it has no realistic way to project military power over-seas. It's group of allies are steadily shrinking, and it's logistical economy is utterly incapable of advancing further than raw-resource based industries. It's only real way to project power is through cyber-warfare, but even that scope is fairly limited. Russia absolutely wants us to think it's a giant threat because it gives the Russian people a sense of strength that they can make the world's strongest country still fear them. But even that is a lie.

It's threat to Europe has been largely isolated to two elements: supporting government politicians that are keen to Russian interests – primarily by making the Europeans directly dependent on Russian energy supplies, and two it's desire to extend and/or preserve it's geographical interests from it's Imperial days, and the USSR days. In this sense, Putin greatly wants to undo NATO.

The real threat to America, and largely much of the world is China. More than half of the entire world's population lives within 1000 miles of China. And it's currently saber-rattling with the second most populous country in the world, that is also nuclear armed, and hell bent on going toe-to-toe with them.

Some speculate that Trump's desire to pull out of Europe is to redirect forces to the Pacific.

Chewybunny wrote:

It needs to be sustainable at the very least, and it certainly ain't even that.

Of course not. It's not like there is a public pool of money whose sole purpose is to pay for things society as a whole benefits from. While we are at it, can we talk about how unsustainable roads are? I mean, they cost millions to build, millions to upkeep, but generate no money. It's an absolute financial black hole. We need to let millionaires own the roads so they can charge for their usage so they can have the money to fix the roads. If they don't and pocket the money, the people can just drive on another road in front of their driveway. It's not like society as a whole depends on functioning roads or anything.

Kenetic Kups wrote:

https://www.cnet.com/news/trump-effectively-bans-tiktok-wechat-with-executive-orders/
>45 days
I calculate a .00000000000001% chance it isn't bought by some conglomerate in the us by then

Is it sorta bad I was hoping he'd actually ban Tencent?

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PatrickBateman96 wrote:

I was just making an observation. I never called it a scandal, you douche.

the reaction image indicated otherwise.

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Correct. Being having billions of dollars worth of stock is, in fact, not the same as having billions of dollars. He has billions when he sells the shares for billions of dollars, and that gets taxed fairly heavily, and likely won't be staying as cash for very long.

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Penis Miller wrote:

Wouldn't it be funny if he nominated Hillary as VP?

He's most liekly going to nominate harris, but if he did nominate clinton it would fit better with how fucked 2020 is
But remember how bad his health is, so it's likely the vp will end up as president weather they have him step down, or die
so whoever his vp is would likely nominate clinton in that scenario

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actually I just got a report from CNN headquarters, they have outline the official Radical Left agenda for Biden's vp
1. Biden will nominate sanders as vp
2. Sanders gets brainwashed by sissy hypnosis and becomes a woman, fulfilling Biden's promise
3. On first day of office, Biden steps down and makes Bernadetta Sanders the president
4. Sanders starts the communist revolution

Not according to wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kai_Kahele

Dude won because he ran unopposed: Gabbard dropped out to run in the DNC Primary.

Seriously dude, who do you get your news from?

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Greyblades wrote:

Not according to wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kai_Kahele

Dude won because he ran unopposed: Gabbard dropped out to run in the DNC Primary.

Seriously dude, who do you get your news from?

www.neolibswhoonlybelieveinvotebluenomatterwho.org

Kenetic Kups wrote:

He's most liekly going to nominate harris, but if he did nominate clinton it would fit better with how fucked 2020 is
But remember how bad his health is, so it's likely the vp will end up as president weather they have him step down, or die
so whoever his vp is would likely nominate clinton in that scenario

What's the difference between the two? They're both corporate shills with horrible political records and to top it off they both have extremely unappealing personalites.

PatrickBateman96 wrote:

What's the difference between the two? They're both corporate shills with horrible political records and to top it off they both have extremely unappealing personalites.

I thought shillery was somewhat worse, but it’s really splitting hairs

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Greyblades wrote:

Not according to wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kai_Kahele

Dude won because he ran unopposed: Gabbard dropped out to run in the DNC Primary.

Seriously dude, who do you get your news from?

Do…do you think she resigned from the house to run for President?

>tfw KnowYourMeme knows nothing about how political elections actually work

BrentD15 wrote:

Do…do you think she resigned from the house to run for President?

>tfw KnowYourMeme knows nothing about how political elections actually work

Sounds more like you don't know how elections work, since you seem to think incumbent candidates are required to run unless they resign

BrentD15 wrote:

Do…do you think she resigned from the house to run for President?

>tfw KnowYourMeme knows nothing about how political elections actually work

Did you think Wikipedia had nothing to back up the statement?

Greyblades wrote:

Did you think Wikipedia had nothing to back up the statement?

I never saw this post, so I didn't know.

I assumed she didn't because nobody else that didn't hold office resigned.

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