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As for the Rava/Vaatu thing you mentioned, it looked, during the final battle, that Rava would have stayed gone had Jinora not intervened to draw her out.

What this means, then, is, just like how Rava emerged from the Dark Avatar during the fight, in 10,000 years Vaatu is going to chestburst out of whatever poor sucker is the Avatar then, and they'll have to fight to the death to decide whether or not shit is going to get real for the next eon.

What happens if, by chance, the skilled, adult avatar dies and is re-incarnated as a baby just before the next convergence? Under Wan's plan, the convergence would have been prevented by the closing of the portals, so there would be no problem. Under Kora's plan, without an Avatar old and skilled enough to take on Vaatu at the moment he emerges, humanity is 10,000 years of fucked.

Nice job breaking it, hero.

But for the moment, it's 10,000 years of seeing of seeing if it's even worth keeping the portals open.
A comic or TV special about a way-too-young Avatar having to fight Vaatu would be pretty cool, though.

They could just close the portals during each harmonic convergence. The future avatars that is.
What if the next hypothetical avatar series took place in an alternate version of today?

Its funny how the Avatar only existed for 10,000 years, yet now Korra is more powerful then all of the others were, The world is very technologically advanced, more benders, and the spirit world is open. The opportunities are limitless. Too bad another season will get wasted on some stupid sub plots… Which there were a lot this season.

Wow. This forum is D-E-A-D dead. I know the last season wasn't all that terrific, in fact, imo I think it's a great example on how a show with great animation and music can fall flat due to really bad writing i.e. plot, characterization, and dialogue, the voice acting also leaves something to be desired. But is anybody actually looking forward to the next season? I'm not looking forward to it per se, but I do hope the series actually lives up to my childhood favorite show A:TLA.

I'm hopeful, skeptical, and excited all at the same time.

Eh, I will watch it, but I really don't care to much at this point. Season 1 had its problems, but it had a great villian. Season 2 didn't even have that.

The series so far has been pretty dreadful. I don't think the writers have any real idea what they're doing.

Take season 1 for example. All of Amon's backstory was given with the sudden revelation of Tarrlok's brother. No build up, no hinting, nothing. It was just "Oh, I have a brother, turns out he's Amon. Coolthxbye."

I'd say dreadful is a tad strong, but its certainly not that great. The second season really was just….. meh. They really need to stop the relationship bullshit, and that's coming from someone who loves relationships in shows. Korra and Mako are a terrible couple and I'm glad they broke up.

I just hope the next main villian isn't another waterbender.

Aside from the fact that nobody really liked the last book, we haven't really heard much of season 3 so there isn't much to be excited about. All we have are these


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The two bending bros in their pjs. yay

The second season of LoK was a bit meh in my opinion, but I REALLY enjoyed the episodes about the origins of the Avatar with Beginnings, Part 1 and 2.

I think those two episodes were the high point of season 2, and left me with a somewhat positive view of the that season overall.

I'm not really holding my breath for the third season, but I'll watch it when it arrives.

So the Book 3 trailer is out. Any thoughts if ever?

How can I experience the multiculturalism of Avatar if the trailer isn't in English!?
Failed attempts at humor aside, Korra seems to be battling against both Air and Earthbenders in what appeared to be strictly one-element regiments. Maybe something to do with the new governments? Political intrigue is always fun…
And 0:11 is what looks to be a flashback to when Korra fought Tarrlok, thinking he had something to do with Amon. Not sure why that's in there.

@Arlon
T'was the only trailer available at the meantime :/ And I don't think that's a flashback, I think that's the actual scene; you'd notice the trailer contains some scenes from the first and second seasons if you take a closer look.

Hey speak for yourself buddy, I thought season 2 was pretty dandy.

So, am I the only one who noticed season three is airing this Friday with a whopping three episodes?

I'm a little skeptical on the plot. Airbenders, Dai Li, I trust it'll be good. But hell yes Zuko!

Legend of Korra videogame coming out from the people who made Metal Gear Rising and Bayonetta 2.
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So that was something. My thoughts are as follows:
+ Korra/Mako/Asami is largely put aside to focus on more important things i.e. saving the world.
+/- Bolin is still funny, though it'd be nice if he was something else from time to time.
+ Political aspects of the Avatar's decisions show real consequence for her actions.
+ New Airbenders is an interesting plot element with a lot of potential, already shown to be good.
+ Still feels "Avatar-y"; looks amazing, sounds amazing, amazing ideas, amazing characters…
+ The White Lotus is still around, as is Zuko. And those jails are sweet.
+ The Black Lotus are crazy and LOK has a major female antagonist, yes, thank you.
+ All this talk of change and culture makes LOK thought provoking in a way nothing else is.
+ The Earth Kingdom is as dystopian as ever, with its secret police and wealth gap and whatnot.
+ It really feels like an alternate universe early 1900's.
- Am I supposed to like Kai because I don't.
- Did some Nick high-up demand to dumb down the show with toilet humor to appeal to the kiddies because that's how it felt.
- They replaced the useless K/M/A love triangle with some one-sided Jinora/Kai crap and that's hardly any better because it still takes away from interesting character's core personalities.

Oh shit, that was today!

BRB.

Am I supposed to like Kai because I don’t.

You might like him a little more after he gets put to work by the Dai Li and gets turned into a super solder.

They replaced the useless K/M/A love triangle with some one-sided Jinora/Kai crap and that’s hardly any better because it still takes away from interesting character’s core personalities.

Oh hush up, they're cute. Jinora liking a boy is vastly preferable to two seasons of unnecessary shipping bullshit. At least the Love Triangle in the Hunger Games lampshaded its idiocy. the LOK triangle was just shipping for the sake of shipping to distract from a lack of depth elsewhere in the series. This is actually vastly better because it doesn't feel forced. We got this girl, she's never been anywhere in the whole damn world except Air Temple Island, she grew up in an environment that's cloistered but not oppressively so. This kid shows up, he's an orphan but also a thief and a liar that grew up on the streets. They have something in common thanks to Airbending. She can teach him so as to give an excuse for them to interact. He's the same age as her. He's interesting. He's kind of funny. Her father doesn't approve. I don't know about y'all but I'm gonna develop a crush on this kid.

Basically this is a classic example of the All Girls Want Bad Boys trope (WARNING: TV TROPES LINK). If you think this doesn't add anything, that's fine, but I would have to disagree, especially since it's about to get thrown through a loop with the closing incident.

Speaking of which, I think they probably should've held off on revealing the "Airbender Army" deal to give the show a mystery. "What are they doing with all the airbenders?" we could be thinking right now. IMO situational irony is always better than dramatic irony. If we don't know, than we can try to know. If we do, then we're just watching for reactions. What would we have in The Empire Strikes Back if the Emperor referred to "the child of Anakin Skywalker" as "your son" while speaking to Darth Vader? Just Luke's grief-stricken reaction, which, although excellently acted, would have no impact. It wouldn't be the twist of the century. It would just be Mark Hamill screaming his throat out. It would just be another part of the movie. That's part of why Star Trek Into Darkness failed with its twist, because, besides being fairly obvious and nonsensical, it hit in the middle of the film and didn't add anything to it. The characters had no reaction because it didn't matter who this guy was. They didn't know Khan like we did. Everyone, viewers and characters, must share in the shock for a twist to be truly effective.

But don't get me wrong, I'm not disappointed at all in the new season. In fact, I'm thoroughly impressed that the actually, finally turned it around after two seasons of shite. I just hope they can keep it going.

Ok; I watched it. Shit be good. All it needs is canon KorrAsami and it's the best thing ever. Going to bed now.

@Fridge Logic
Your reasoning is sound, but I still remain skeptical about introducing new characters seemingly for the sole purpose of being a love interest. But perhaps you're right, maybe once the Dai Li injects him with WWII nazi psycho-serum he'll be a more fleshed out character that I can root for. Right now he just feels like so out-of-place in the decidedly grown-up world of LOK.
I completely agree with you on the reveal for the purpose of capturing Airbenders, though. Although it makes it feel likely that Avatar-universe World War One is coming, since the Avatar is no longer aligned with Republic City, the Earth Kingdom wants that territory back, the Spirit World is making everything complex, desperate desperados are growing restless, the Black Lotus is out to take over the world or something and the Air Nation is suddenly being reborn. It's just so many events that seem to be on the verge of converging.
Also we better learn more about the Air Nomad philosopher from thousands of years ago. He better be important, that sounded too interesting to not be.
@Platus
Good night.

introducing new characters seemingly for the sole purpose of being a love interest.

Incorrect.

The main purpose of Kai's introduction is that he is the only person willing to submit himself to Airbender training. And why? Because the alternative is running from the police until they inevitably catch him and send him to jail. (A boy. Sent to jail. WTF, Earth Kingdom?!) He also shows that the Gaang (Korrang?) have to resort to recruiting and attempting to reform tiny scoundrels. To borrow from one Aubrey Graham, they are starting from the bottom. Kai is there to prove that. The romance is peripheral and in its budding stages. So far, it's nothing more than that. From here, we will see what develops.

You see, if a character is introduced solely as a love interest, they're probably not a very good character. See: every Manic Pixie Dream Girl from the last ten or so years of rom-coms. A more recent example would be the dude from The Fault in Our Stars, (or, as I like to call it, The Fart in Our Sharts). Evidence? His name is Augustus Waters. Nobody names their kid that. He's an invention. A fantasy, too good to be true. And it shows. Maybe this is the intent of the book. TBH I haven't read it and don't intend to, but the proof is in the name.

Now, you may say "what about Asami? She was introduced as a love interest for Mako and evolved past that!" Yes, this is true. But she has uses outside of that initial role. Her wealth and technology proves that, as does her skill in battle. She also represents a mundane individual in a magical world giving themselves power through technology. She adds a new element consistent with the show's setting and aesthetic. She also quickly outgrows her role as "distractor for the leading man until he eventually leaves her for the main female" upon her own merits. She is, essentially, the exception to the rule.

Also we better learn more about the Air Nomad philosopher from thousands of years ago

Nah, this was pretty inconsequential. It's the in-universe equivalent of quoting Nietzsche to show that the guy reads, and that makes him more threatening than he would be if he were just a beefcake gang leader. Nope, this dude's a beefcake gang leader that spouts off crazy-ass philosophy for self-serving purposes. Those dudes are insane, you don't wanna fuck wit em.

If you say so, FL. Next episode should probably make it apparent what Kai is there for. To be clear, I'm hoping he offers more to the story than "cool kid rebel without a cause impressing all the ladies", but so far I haven't really seen that. I have faith that Avatar wouldn't introduce a new main character and not make them more than what they originally appear, but that takes time…
Also, how did beercake gang leader even get access to books while he was in maximum security OWL prison? Who authorized that?

Also, how did beercake gang leader even get access to books while he was in maximum security OWL prison? Who authorized that?

He read them before he landed in jail.

I'm pretty sure everyone agrees that Book 3 looks very promising so far, right? The dumb love triangle looks to be non-existent anymore (Asami and Korra's no-harm-done interactions are a joy to watch,) new characters have potential, plot opens up places from ATLA that we've been dying to see, and last but of course not the least the fighting looks to be as beautiful as ever.

Anyone noticed the airbending black lotus guy sort of made an embarrassing mistake? He told the guards to ration the bowl of rice they had in his cell because it'll take 3 weeks for the next shift to arrive, but what about water? Wouldn't that be more important? And he seemed to have neglected the fact that there were earth benders in that patrol he knocked out. They could easily take down the dingy cell door since they are after all in a friggin cave.

Speaking of water, how do they quench the thirst of the water bending black lotus lady without giving her a potential weapon? Maybe they chain her hands every time they give her a sip just like what they did to the blood bending witch in ATLA book 3, but what about blood bending then? Surely a water bender with her skill knows how to blood bend.

He told the guards to ration the bowl of rice they had in his cell because it’ll take 3 weeks for the next shift to arrive, but what about water?

He actually wants to leave them for dead. Also he was escaping from prison so I don't think he really gives a shit about semantics.

Speaking of water, how do they quench the thirst of the water bending black lotus lady without giving her a potential weapon? Maybe they chain her hands every time they give her a sip just like what they did to the blood bending witch in ATLA book 3

Uh…she doesn't have hands, dude. Or arms. That's kind of her thing. As for your guess that's probably exactly what they do.

Fudgin hell I had to look at her again. Can't believe I didn't notice lady black lotus doesn't have any dang arms uuuuugh I feel blind.

@Blood Bending

If you recall, with few exceptions water benders can only blood bend during the full moon, and they need to be specifically taught how to do it. Really, even if she does know how, all they need to do is vacate the prison once a month and there's nothing to worry about.

New episodes guys

Really don't understand why Lin was being such a bitch.

And I hate to cry Mary Sue on the metal city but everything is waaaaay too perfect. If there's not something seriously wrong in there that's revealed in the next episode, Bryke will have gone back to terrible writing instead of the current mediocre level. I mean, it's a cool place, but if it's populated entirely by characters with only one or two dimensions, it's just not compelling.

I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be a Utopian "world of tomorrow" kind of deal. Shimmering metal in a world of sticks and dirt, free-thinking intellectuals surrounded by ancien régimes. I'm betting money on it becoming Dystopian pretty quickly, though. The "there are no lies here" thing already makes me believe that. They may or may not have a superiority complex as well.
For some reason, Toph having children with two different people is weirdly surprising. I don't even know why, it's just something I don't think I've ever seen happen in children's animation before.
And you were right that I did like Kai more after what he went through. I'm surprised that he didn't stick with Team Avatar, though. Now they have no wacky kid sidekick, plus he's a new character already stuck to the sidelines of the secondary plot.
All in all, pretty good episodes. Weird how not-stressed Korra is despite having potentially started a war with the Earth Kingdom, knowing that a group of assassins is after her, still having to locate new Airbenders and dealing with the vines and cohabitation of the spirits.

I freakin love this show.
Seeing Varrick return was cool, though I expect he has another master plan up his sleeve. Finding out that Toph is more of a pimp than Korra was pretty fun, too. I just wonder what will happen next. Will we see Toph? Zuko/Iroh meeting up with each other? Heck, maybe even Suki at one point?

Actually, it would be pretty cool if Suki ended up to be one of the many new airbenders that came out of Harmonic Convergence. She does use fans, after all.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that:

TOPH CONFIRMED FOR POSSIBLY ALIVE!

Best part of the episode.

And the new airbending technique confirmed. Well… It's not really airbending, but more spiritually. At least I didn't expect it

Sokka was mentioned too. Let's not forget about Sokka.

I can hear the TophxSokka shippers now… "Toph, how could you!"

But think about it: if she had two kids with two guys, one of them could be Sokka.

@Platus
The show better reveal who these two dads are. Half of me is saying it couldn't possibly be sokka because in a rational non-shipper's eyes there definitely wasn't that much chemistry between the two in ATLA to work with, but at the same time half of me is saying it could be sokka because I don't think the creators would throw in some random dude into the show.

@Erwinator
If that is the level two technique of airbenders, I gotta say that's pretty op (both overpowered and out of place) compared to the other level two elements of the other benders. Although I do think it fits in with the whole passive philosophy the Airbenders uphold.

I have to say, I completely side with Lin on the issue. Lin spent her entire life trying to please her mother by becoming a police officer and then Toph sides with the criminal. What Toph did was little more than despotism and while very Toph like in it's "let's break some rules!' style, is completely immoral, not to mention illegal. Lin was being the complete opposite of selfish by putting the greater good before her personal connections. And what does she get for it? Estrangement from her mother and a permanent scar, while Suyin got handed the key to a city instead of being locked up behind bars. There really is no justice.

Toph! We finally get to see Toph again! I think she really wanted the best for her children, and they wanted the best for their mother, but everyone made mistakes. It's a sad story, and I hope we get to see Toph again in the future.

I have a little criticsm on the Airbending story. Tenzin is completely disregarding traditional Airbending culture. He became very aggressive and vigorous, but he at least has the right mentality. I guess I generally don't like the fact that airbenders are back, but it really mixes up the idea of Airbending.

Interview about the show with Mike and Brian on Salon.

Not exactly earth-shattering . . . or all that interesting. But I thought I'd drop a link anyway.

Watched the last episodes.. Lin's backstory. Just wow. That was intense. And I can't believe the name they gave to the 'know it all' airbender (You know the one). And that story about the father of the Earth Queen… I hope it isn't true.

Oh, yeah. Otaku. There was definitely a reason for that. Only thing is, if it was meant to be an insult, it failed pretty hard in my eyes. I don't know how anyone could dislike Otaku. He's been given the great and important task of rekindling a lost culture and actually treats it seriously and wants to be there and wants to learn. He's bookish to extreme measures, but so what? Avatar isn't Johnny Test, there's no "hurdur smrt ppl r nerdz radical cowabunga dud" in it, no one has ever said that intelligence or the pursuit of it was anything less than exemplary. If Otaku was supposed to be a crack at the most hardcore of the fanbase or something, it sure didn't feel like it…

The last episodes have been… good, in my opinion. Just good. The flashback with Lin and Suyin was definitely a nice thing to see, but Korra knowing how to metal bend now feels a bit overpowered. Also, the fight between the two sisters feel forced.

As for the Original Airbenders, it felt more like a filler than anything. Sure it can be seen as char dev material, but I see too many tropes already used plenty of times in there that I can't help but feel it's not too profound an episode. Still, a great filler.

Episode 13's title is "Venom of the Red Lotus", this leads me to speculate that the "Red Lotus" is the opposite of the White Lotus, kidnapping the avatar and protecting the avatar. I'm guessing they have ancient roots like the White Lotus had. So it's safe to say Zaheer and his fellow fugitives are part of this dangerous plot.

Awww, I was close. I still think Black Lotus makes more sense since it's the opposite color of white. At least they have an actual name now so people can refer to them as something besides "Zaheer's gang".

Yeah, but I'm wondering why Zaheer, Ghazan, Ming Hua, and P'Li are really together. I mean they're all powerful benders, share the interest in destroying the Avatar, but what else? I hope there's more focus into them, I care more about them then the little airbending conscription story.