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Platus wrote:

Lin knows her father's name, and is an adult. Why couldn't she just look him up and talk to him? I mean, that wouldn't remove the fact that she never knew him as a child, but certainly it could bring her some closure. Maybe if she sat down and got to know him, it would make her feel better enough to patch things up with Toph.

There are probably a number of complication with just going to find him. For one, just like in real life, thousands of people in the series can have the same name ("Try Li. There are a million Li's"). Second, it is a complete possibility that given the situation at hand, he could have just died or disappeared from society. I mean, if you had a daughter with your ex-girlfriend/divorced wife/whatever their relationship was, wouldn't you at least want to visit her every once in a while? Toph said he was a "nice guy", so I'm sure he had enough of a conscience to want to see his own daughter.
That having been said, this is all speculation. I'm sure Korra's spirit-finding ability, the six degrees of separation theory (likely closer to "five degrees of separation" since the world population is so much smaller in Avatar than in the real world), or some third deus ex machina will be enough to find him, if he still exists.

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Platus wrote:

Lin knows her father's name, and is an adult. Why couldn't she just look him up and talk to him? I mean, that wouldn't remove the fact that she never knew him as a child, but certainly it could bring her some closure. Maybe if she sat down and got to know him, it would make her feel better enough to patch things up with Toph.

Because the plot demanded it

…So, I guess this is Gundam/Evangelion/Code Geass/Zone of the Enders/<insert anime here> now. Though I suppose with that negative of an attitude, it already was when you take into account the other suits.

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Sajua Wanu wrote:

Because the plot demanded it

I mean if you didnt know who your father was, and one day I told you his name was Jim, what would you do?

You dont know his last name, you dont know what he looks like, you dont know where he lives, what he did for a living, or even if he is alive.

I really hope Kuvira actually did love Baatar Jr but just placed her role as leader of the Empire above her love life. It would give her some much-needed character development to have her be human (i.e. not a complete monster) but also have very high-minded priorities. Placing the good of the nation above all else really gives her a fanatical feel without making it unnecessarily cheesy if that was all she cared about.

theproton wrote:

I mean if you didnt know who your father was, and one day I told you his name was Jim, what would you do?

You dont know his last name, you dont know what he looks like, you dont know where he lives, what he did for a living, or even if he is alive.

Well, Toph's currently an old bag of sass. One could infer that Lin's dad had passed away by this point, being most likely older than Toph.

I am AHO Right? wrote:

I really hope Kuvira actually did love Baatar Jr but just placed her role as leader of the Empire above her love life. It would give her some much-needed character development to have her be human (i.e. not a complete monster) but also have very high-minded priorities. Placing the good of the nation above all else really gives her a fanatical feel without making it unnecessarily cheesy if that was all she cared about.

She did. Otherwise she would have an evil smirk after the attack.

About the episode. Well, the hypetrain sure speeds up following the last episode

I am AHO Right? wrote:

I really hope Kuvira actually did love Baatar Jr but just placed her role as leader of the Empire above her love life. It would give her some much-needed character development to have her be human (i.e. not a complete monster) but also have very high-minded priorities. Placing the good of the nation above all else really gives her a fanatical feel without making it unnecessarily cheesy if that was all she cared about.

I really liked the interpretation from this post too:

http://dongingtex.tumblr.com/post/105188312370/you-know-when-kuvira-shot-at-bataar-jr-and-tired

"You know when Kuvira shot at Bataar Jr. and tired to kill everyone in the building she actually put him in the perfect safe spot. Bc now everyone is going to think that Kuvira doesn't love him anymore, and that she was just using him and corrupting him. Therefore Bataar Jr. Gets no blame for this whole thing.

Kuvira is not stupid. She seriously loves him, she was willing to sacrifice his love for her to make sure he wouldn't get hurt."

I don't see why we would have to talk about the flaws, as most people tend to do nothing else in case of LoK, because they keep comparing it to the original.
It's hard to make a sequel to one of the most critically acclaimed animated series of the new millenium. I'd rather talk about the positive things. Like how the serie got more mature and how they explain and expand more about the Avatar Universe

Well, my OTP was canonized, The majority of Tumblr's OTP was immortalized in the ending scene, someone actually died with context, and I learned that the previous spirit portals being at the poles doesn't mean shit. All in all, I think it was a great ending to a (mostly) great series. Nickelodeon may try and stifle us, they may censor incredibly minute details, they may even take our air time, but they will never take OUR FREEDOM
also this scene

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The finale was so beautiful. I don't think I can properly convey how happy I am.

A KorrAsami road trip: best possible way for the series to end.

Also, tumblr put it better than I ever could:

CANON BISEXUAL WOMEN OF COLOR ON ANIMATED SHOWS DIRECTED FOR CHILDREN IS THE REASON I BREATHE
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Phew. Almost saw spoilers. Still have to remember to avoid coming here on Fridays.

As for the finale. Bravo. Bryke and his team did an amazing job on this serie. Legend of Korra can rest in fame alongside The Last Airbender

You know what else I love about the finale? There's so many secondary characters who only three years ago in the plot were just random Earth Kingdom non-benders, who went on to become highly skilled airbenders that got to help take down Kuvira's giant robot. How awesome must it be to go from some random schmuck who can't even do the magic trick that your nation is named after to a highly trained shock troop for a peacekeeping force battling against a global dictator – and in less time than it takes to get a freaking bachelor's degree. Bravo to those people, charging the robot head-on without even half the power Korra has. They all deserve a goddamn medal.

Just saw the finale, I gotta say, I really liked it. I can't shake the feeling that they were kinda trying to out-do Aang vs Ozai in terms of scale and people involved, but I don't really mind.

Obviously the KorrAsami and Varrick x Zhu Li peeps were happy.

I still want a comic with a couple of LOK adventures, and then a full-on comic series with the next (or a previous) Avatar.

I feel sad I wasn't able to nerd out with the fandom; was busy with other stuff so I had to hold off on the whole second half of the season until the finale. Seeing everybody's reaction is priceless is because I feel the exact same way. I could've sworn I had a lot to say about the giant robot fight and even some of the episodes before that, but bloody hell that last scene just blocked out everything else. Bold move, TLoK team, bold move.

I guess everyone figured this out, but something's bothering me that I didn't realise.
After Unavaatu damaged Raava, Korra can never contact Aang and the Avatars before him. That's really sad, but I understood it. But then someone on Youtube explained that the Avatars AFTER Korra also can't contact with them.
After Korra reclaimed Raava, she got 'rebooted', which means that Korra is the first Avatar in a new cycle. So THAT means that Aang, Roku, Kyoshi etc. will never appear in future Avatar adaptions. I don't know about you guys, but that's really effing depressing.

Once again, sorry for being a Slowpoke, it's probably pretty obvious by now.

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Erwinator wrote:

I guess everyone figured this out, but something's bothering me that I didn't realise.
After Unavaatu damaged Raava, Korra can never contact Aang and the Avatars before him. That's really sad, but I understood it. But then someone on Youtube explained that the Avatars AFTER Korra also can't contact with them.
After Korra reclaimed Raava, she got 'rebooted', which means that Korra is the first Avatar in a new cycle. So THAT means that Aang, Roku, Kyoshi etc. will never appear in future Avatar adaptions. I don't know about you guys, but that's really effing depressing.

Once again, sorry for being a Slowpoke, it's probably pretty obvious by now.

It took me a while to figure that out, too. I'm kinda okay with it though, because I feel that Korra could make a good new "first" Avatar.

Though there could be a Deus Ex Machina again, letting the future Avatars commune with the previous cycle somehow.

Matau, Toa Of Air wrote:

It took me a while to figure that out, too. I'm kinda okay with it though, because I feel that Korra could make a good new "first" Avatar.

Though there could be a Deus Ex Machina again, letting the future Avatars commune with the previous cycle somehow.

I'm pretty certain that Mike and Bryan aren't putting another D.E.M. for the 3th time. It will probably take a loooong time before they even consider to start on Avatar again. We'll see

Erwinator wrote:

I'm pretty certain that Mike and Bryan aren't putting another D.E.M. for the 3th time. It will probably take a loooong time before they even consider to start on Avatar again. We'll see

I wouldn't be too surprised if they try to make another series before going back to the money tree they've grown. And any third series would probably benefit from that. The last thing we want is for them to rush another series and run themselves dry, and it would be cool to see what they come up with when they start fresh.

Also, I really hope they stop working with Nickelodeon. Maybe move to Cartoon Network or Adult Swim?

Also also, RE the Korrasami thing. It worries me that they couldn't make things too explicit in the show itself, and had to give the 100% yes on their blogs. If there is another series, it will probably involve another big time skip, and either an older Korra or a new avatar. In any case, they will have to show how Korra and Asami's relationship developed during that time, which means either being explicit about it in the show or ret-conning it away. Obviously, the second option would be a disaster, but it's also what Nick would probably force them to do.

But maybe four or five years from now, there will be enough wiggle room for them to get away with it? There have been a lot of "almost gay" moments in animation recently: Korrasami, Princess Bubblegum and Marcelline, that scene they cut from Gravity Falls. People are trying, and the mass media reaction so far has been mostly positive. It's only a matter of time before someone manages to do it, and after that the floodgates will be open. Maybe, at that point, we can get something more emphatic than a blog post.

So in conclusion: Mike and Bryan taking a break from Avatar = probably a good thing in the long run.

I was confused when Korra got Raava again; (that was pretty much bordering on D.E.M, no?) I thought she was the last Avatar for good, and it would have been interesting too imo. If ever a third series happens (or some comic book spin-off,) I think it would be interesting to star someone else besides the Avatar, some nobody, maybe a rookie metal-bending cop who's hot on the trail of element-bending crimelords in a different, Avatar-less, computer-aged Avatar world. But ah, that would be too different from the original premise of the whole series.

Citizens of Avatar General! Our lord and sovereign, The Great Uniter, has commanded all of you to have a very merry Christmas, and a happy new year.

Dispensing gifts:

Gifts dispensed.

You may now return to your shenanigans.

Platus wrote:

Citizens of Avatar General! Our lord and sovereign, The Great Uniter, has commanded all of you to have a very merry Christmas, and a happy new year.

Dispensing gifts:

Gifts dispensed.

You may now return to your shenanigans.

ALL HAIL THE GREAT UNITER.

MAY THE PRESENTS BE OVERWHELMING AND OUR HOLIDAYS TO BE LONG AND CHEERFUL

I am AHO Right? wrote:

If you guys take Earth Kingdom money, then I bet 2 silver pieces that Amon's true identity will be Zuko's Mother. Well, not actually his mother, but as in it's the big question running throughout the entire show's length that, while even the characters will want to know, it just won't be fully revealed. It's an easy yet effective shot for making a big mystery that drives people's actions. Heck, maybe Amon will jump off a cliff or something when he knowns he's been bested just to continue haunting the heroes. And THEN he'll somehow come back to life using his dark spiritual connections and be the true big bad behind the supposed string-puller that was supposedly pulling Amon's strings. Because everyone likes cool, masked villians that make cool, miraculous comebacks from death and defeat. Like Slade! Or Nightshroud. Lelouch doesn't count because A and most importantly, he's not a villian. But B, he either did die, never to return or he never died in the first place.
I am surprised his power to take away bending (Which really hasn't been proven to be permanent, since you have to wait, say, years before you get to claim that your action continues to have effect.) wasn't the one that Aang used at the end of the first show. First off, that removes the main chance of him being Ozai, though who actually thought that was what it was gonna' be? More importantly, his ability is kinda' boring to look at. The power just fades away. Aang's did NOT match his personality at ALL. That wax-figure-of-bending-nullification-power was uber-weird and quite creepy. Having Amon use it works much better than for Aang. Plus, then he would get to use it on Korra at the end, where they'd have a spiritual battle (Korra's weakspot, just as the physical battle was Aang's.) over who is more in tune with "The World", so Korra's victory would prove that she is more in-balence with everything than Amon, thus destroying his campaign platform.
Finally, his outfit is kinda' "Meh"-y, aside from the mask's likeness to Anon.

I feel alone in my little Korra//Asami corner. Ah, well, such is life for a ship that will never, ever see the light of canon.

Since this thread is (probably) coming to an end, I want to show all of you this gem I found on memory lane

Platus wrote:

The first episode of the new Avatar series has been leaked. Obviously, spoilers abound. (It is quite awesome though.) Thoughts?

Since we're doing the memory lane thing, here's the first post on the thread. What a long, strange trip it's been.

You guys are the best.

Also, there were a lot of people making predictions on this thread, most of which (i.e. mine) didn't actually come true. Anyone interested in going through and taking score?

Last edited Dec 26, 2014 at 06:58PM EST

Platus wrote:

Sorry for the double post but . . .

Would you believe if Varrick is actually Sokka's child? Both are genius inventors from the Water Tribe who have a comic relief side. We don't know Sokka's last name, so we will never know…

Are there volunteers for taking predictions score? I wouldn't mind doing that. It might take some time

@Erwinator

I thought about Varrick being related to Sokka too, especially once it was confirmed that he was from the Southern, rather than the Northern, Water Tribe. I also had the idea of the South having a "Sokka School of Engineering" for Varrick to study at, because that just seems like a cool idea.

And if you want to take the tally, go for it. I won't stop you.

Ok guys. Here are all the correct predictions I could find (I will probably do 1 post per season):

Season 1:

Platus predicted: Mark my words: the older brother is bad news, and the Fire Ferrets are involved (or will be) in the anti-bending controversy.
This was right after episode 2. I guess that counts

burning_phoneix predicted: Amon has pictures of Mechs on his wall…..
Actually foreshadowing, but whatevs

Platus predicted: I’m about 60% sure that either her [Asami] or her father or both are involved with the equalists in some way, so don’t count Korra out yet.

Platus predicted: As for their exact function, I have a couple of ideas. The tournament is not simply there in the background, it is probably going to further the plot in some major way (a sport dedicated solely to letting benders show off their skills is just too much for the equalists to pass up.

Dr. Free Cake Needs More Cowbell! predicted/said: I feel alone in my little Korra//Asami corner. Ah, well, such is life for a ship that will never, ever see the light of canon.
Yes, this one again

Dr. Free Cake Needs More Cowbell! predicted: Back on topic, Tarrlok is going to screw something up. Actually, he already has, picking fights with Amon twice, but something bigger will befall, methinks.

ConnerABacon said: Is it possible that non-benders can energy-bend, or is Amon secretly a bender just trying to gain more power?
Half true

ConnerABacon wrote in response of Amon being compared to Hitler: Well, we went 12 pages without invoking Godwins law. Jolly good show, chaps.
And then Season 4 happened. Foreshadowing, guys

Dac predicted: Mabye Amons energybending has more to do with bloodbending and blocking chuckras. Amon says he’s dad was struck down by a firebender, what if his dad is Yakone.
Mabye Amon and Tarloc are the same person, or related.
Damn Dac

HOLY SHIT. I SCROLLED THROUGH 21 PAGES JUST FOR SEASON 1. WHAT WAS WRONG WITH YOU GUYS. TOO MUCH PICTURES AND YELLING AND REPLYING I MEAN SRSLY

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Going into the theoretical here, but, since Korra can metalbend, and can waterbend (and can therefore learn bloodbending) couldn't she potentially do more damage by bloodbending and bending the iron in a person's blood? That is, if she went rogue or whatever.

Also, nice work, Erwinator

Damn, I forgot how on point I was about that prediction.
I have't seen the last season, but I am loving the yuri-tastic ending.

Girls can love girls.

Here's something that I've never understood:

We know that Korra can spirit bend, which means that she can take people's bending away, and that by the end of the series she has become good enough at it to channel enough energy to open a spirit portal (which Aang never did). So can she give bending to people that don't already have it? I mean, based on "Beginnings" we know that you need either Raava or Vaatu's spirit in you to bend more than one element at a time, but we also saw the lion turtles giving and taking bending powers like it was nothing. Why can't Korra do that? She could give Asami whatever bending powers she wanted, and give airbending to all the non-bender air acolytes. She could even go to benders and swap their powers around. Think of the possibilities!

Season 2:

Crimson Locks predicted: I think the next season will start with a time skip to a few months later, and it will show that benders and non-benders have once again agreed to peace between each other. Maybe they will even put a non-bender in the council.
I assume there already were nonbenders in the council, but mayor Raiko was a big step forward

Dac said: One of the concept arts pics reminded me of the lion turtle.

Piano wrote: GUYS, YOU GUYS, GUYS, WHAT IF WHAT IF KORRA IS THE AVATAR YOU GUYS Mind=Blown

Myconix wrote: One theory is that the highest level of airbending is the ability to create vacuums to suffocate people. There were speculations for it from the beginning, but I guess this one is the official 'first'. Even though Zaheer's flying move was the 'ultimate' ultimate form of bending.

Crimson Locks wrote: I would not be surprised if the ultimate Airbending power was making a vacuum. Although I don’t know if this could be portrayed in a kid friendly enough way for Nick to give it the green light. I mean, showing this would most likely mean people suffocating on screen. Ha. Haha. HAHA. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAaaaa…..

SPOILERS ABOUT ZUKO'S MOM Crimson Locks wrote: I bet Zuko’s mom was living as a refugee in the Earth Kingdom, or even living in one of the abandoned Air Temples. Nothing to do with season 2, but he was kinda spot on assuming The Search wasn't out yet.

Jyron Stone wrote: Eccentric-businessman-whose-name-I-don’t-know is best character. After the first episode. He already knew how great he going to be.

ConnerABacon wrote: I can get behind this new antagonist, he’s a fan of weaponizing the normally unweaponizable. I can sympathize with that. Don't remember if Unalaq was ominous from the beginning, but it's something. Many people actually thought that Unalaq was not the major villain, 'caus he showed up too early and were expecting more (if you don't count Vaatu).

Jyron Stone wrote:His character promo [Varrick] said that he’ll do anything for a quick buck and he may or may not be involved with underworld gangs, so I’m guessing he’s actually trying to spark the civil war for the sake of boosting business while using those connections he may or may not have to spring himself out of jail before everything goes to hell. Counts, right?

Dac predicited: Mabye he is trying to become a dark avatar. I now believe Dac is actually Bryke

AvatarMike wrote: Too bad another season will get wasted on some stupid sub plots… Which there were a lot this season. Lol, nope

THIS THREAD WAS A MESS, PAGES OF MLP TALK, SPIDERMAN AND DERAILMENTS. MY POOR BRAIN

Just a topic I wanted to discuss.

Since Legend of Korra ended I’ve been looking on all of it and I noticed that some people don’t like season 2. Personally I liked season 2 more than season 1, mainly because I found it more interesting by adding to the mythology of the Avatar universe.
I could only think of 2 problems with the season:
1 – Jinora’s “Deus Ex Machina” in the final fight.
2 – The stakes being set so high (not sure if Michael and Bryan were planing on this being the grand finale before season 3 got commissioned).
So can I get your opinions about season 2: Did you like it, dislike it or are indifferent to it?

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Blue Sun Deluxe wrote:

Just a topic I wanted to discuss.

Since Legend of Korra ended I’ve been looking on all of it and I noticed that some people don’t like season 2. Personally I liked season 2 more than season 1, mainly because I found it more interesting by adding to the mythology of the Avatar universe.
I could only think of 2 problems with the season:
1 – Jinora’s “Deus Ex Machina” in the final fight.
2 – The stakes being set so high (not sure if Michael and Bryan were planing on this being the grand finale before season 3 got commissioned).
So can I get your opinions about season 2: Did you like it, dislike it or are indifferent to it?

Back then, when season 2 finished, I thought that, overall, it was a pretty good season. Now, in retrospect, it was an okay season. It had a relatively solid beginning, a "meh" middle, and a pretty strong ending. My biggest problems with it had to be the reintroduction of season 1's love triangle (because that went so well), whatever Jinora did at the end, and Unalaq as a villain. But, despite these problems, I still liked it.

Blue Sun Deluxe wrote:

Just a topic I wanted to discuss.

Since Legend of Korra ended I’ve been looking on all of it and I noticed that some people don’t like season 2. Personally I liked season 2 more than season 1, mainly because I found it more interesting by adding to the mythology of the Avatar universe.
I could only think of 2 problems with the season:
1 – Jinora’s “Deus Ex Machina” in the final fight.
2 – The stakes being set so high (not sure if Michael and Bryan were planing on this being the grand finale before season 3 got commissioned).
So can I get your opinions about season 2: Did you like it, dislike it or are indifferent to it?

Yeah, during my 'research' I noticed that some people complained about the character development. Unalaq was too obvious evil and didn't play his cards right against the Avatar, Varrick became evil, which p*ssed off a number of people. Mako being too stupid to trust Triple Traids and Korra being too irrational. In short, this:

xTSGx:

>multinational corporation
>manufactures remote detonators
>various groups buy detonators
>terrorists use detonator to do what they do best
>blame multinational corporation’s CEO

Do you even logic?

>multinational corporation teetering on the edge of bankruptcy
>store all inventory in single warehouse
>don’t have insurance
>inventory gets stolen

Do you even corporate governance?

>be Water Tribe king/emperor/whatever
>need Avator to open portal to Lovecraft Country
>tell her she’s no longer needed
>get her to hate your guts so she’ll never help you

Do you even manipulative villainy?

In other news: GUYS, The Avatar image section disappeared from the Top Image Section. It's only a matter of time… :'(

Last edited Jan 02, 2015 at 01:02PM EST
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