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That House of Horrors match though… it was incredibly stupid and really bad…

Well, looks like I only got one of my predictions right. Anyways, Payback was alright. First hour started strong, but the House of Horrors match seemed to have killed the audience for the rest of the show, at least until the main event. All the matches were, at the very least, pretty good, but for me MOTN goes to Bayley/Alexa Bliss; the massive pop Bayley got at her hometown might've helped with that.

Payback was ok IMO, not standout but not bad either.

- The Cruisers were actually getting some good reactions and the match was pretty good. Aries is consistently entertaining and so charismatic, I'm glad they're running with him as the leading face for a bit longer against Neville.
- Interesting choice with Sheasaro's result. I'll wait to see how it plays out before passing judgement
- House of Horrors was shit, but the sort of shit that is entertaining to watch. I like that they at least utilised Jinder.
- Alexa/Bayley was a pleasant surprise, I wasn't expecting the ring work to be that good
- Braun/Roman was IMO excellent, Roman's selling was superb and everything about Braun was entertaining. It feels like a natural progression to have Braun start main eventing PPVs now and he feels like a bona fide monster. Good stuff.

"Every Horror Trope ever" The Match

Alright, we got another wrestling weekend coming up, with NXT Takeover: Chicago and Backlash. Gonna start with Takeover predictions first. Winners listed in bold:

NXT Takeover: Chicago

• Roderick Strong vs Eric Young
  I'm expecting interference from the other members of SAnitY, so my money's on EY.
• Tyler Bate © vs Pete Dunne (UK Title)
  Bruiserweight goin' over. Lookin' forward to JR's commentary for this match.
• Authors of Pain © vs DIY (NXT Tag Titles, Ladder Match)
• Asuka © vs Ruby Riot vs Nikki Cross (NXT Women's Title, Triple Threat)
  I don't think Asuka's losing her crown anytime soon; either Ember Moon's gonna be the one to dethrone her, or maybe someone else in the future like Io Shirai.
• The Glorious Bobby Roode © vs Hideo Itami (NXT Title)
  Hideo's been having a pretty good comeback lately, but I don't see him gaining the title from Roode anytime soon. Perhaps at the next Takeover, but not this Saturday. Also I'm gonna expect some CM Punk chants when Hideo goes for a GTS.

WWE Backlash

• Tye Dillinger vs Aiden English (pre-show)
• Luke Harper vs Erick Rowan
• Sami Zayn vs Baron Corbin
• Charlotte/Naomi/Becky Lynch vs The Welcoming Committee
• The Usos © vs Chet Chetterfield and Mr. Mackelroy (SDL Tag Titles)
  It's great that Breezango's getting a push, but I don't see them beating the Uggos. I kinda expect New Day to dethrone them once they arrive.
• Shinsuke Nakamura vs Dolph Ziggler
  Since it's Shinsuke's debut match, I fully expect him to win. I'd be surprised if Dolph were to win somehow, and I think that would give him some much needed heel heat.
• Kevin Owens © vs AJ Styles (US Title)
  As much as I love AJ, he ain't getting that US title 'til maybe Money in the Bank or whatever the next SDL PPV is.
• Randy Orton © vs The Maharaja Jinder Mahal (WWE Title)
  I expect Orton to win this, though I'll be laughing my ass off if Jinder picked up the win. Imagine the heat he'll get from beating Orton. Either way, regardless of the winner, I think we'll get a solid midcard heel out of Jinder following Backlash.

NXT Takeover: Chicago

• Roderick Strong vs Eric Young: Why are Sanity such chumps

• Tyler Bate © vs Pete Dunne (UK Title): My mind says Dunne but my heart says Bate,he will eventualy drop it to Dunne but I would like his reign to be a tad longer now that the UK show is happening.

• Authors of Pain © vs DIY (NXT Tag Titles, Ladder Match): I don't think DIY will ever get back the title, they either split up before it happens or get into the main roster. I think Heavy Machinery will be the ones taking it off from the AoP.

• Asuka © vs Ruby Riot vs Nikki Cross (NXT Women’s Title, Triple Threat): Asuka's demise is incoming, but won't come from Riot or Cross. She either drops it to Moon or Hojo (depending on what the tournament reward is).

• The Gorgeous and Glorious Bobby Roode © vs Japanese CM Punk, KENTA (NXT Title): I want to believe. Just because I feel bad about Itami's bad luck regarding injuries and I want Roode asap on the MR (ffs he's 39 and I want to see Haitch Jr. not handicapping himself on the developmental brand).

WWE Backlash

• Tye Dillinger vs Aiden English (pre-show)

• Luke Harper vs Erick Rowan

• Sami Zayn vs Baron Corbin

• Charlotte/Naomi/Becky Lynch vs The Welcoming Committee: Unrelated note I want the Committee to be to Carmella what Nation of Domination was for The Rock, she has pretty good mic skills that could get to use.

• The Uggos © vs Fashion Police (SDL Tag Titles): I'm happy enough with Breezango having TV time.

• Shinsuke Nakamura vs Dolph Ziggler: Easy bet of the night

• Kevin Owens © vs AJ Styles (US Title): AJ will probs get it by MitB, no need to rush it.

• Randy Orton © vs The Maharaja, Big Poppa Punjabi, Jinder Mahal (WWE Title): I want to believe again. If he wins (on Chicago from all places) it's going to be a gorgeous trainwreck in the ICW. Sadly Randy will retain …………dive

PREDICTIONS TIME
Winners in bold as has become the norm

Takeover

• Roddy vs Young
• Dunne vs Bate © (UK Title)
• DIY vs AoP © (NXT Tag Title)
• Ruby vs Nikki vs Asuka © (NXT Women's Title)
• Itami vs Roode © (NXT Title)

Backlash

• Dillinger vs English
• Harper vs Rowan – it's Big Red's time
• Zayn vs Corbin
• Charlotte, Naomi & Becky vs The Welcoming Committee
• Breezango to fabulously destroy the Uggos © (SD Tag Title)
• Nakamura vs Ziggler – easiest call in a while lolololololol
• Styles versus Owens © (US Title)
• Fuck it, I'm going all in. JINDER MAHAL WILL WIN THE WWE CHAMPIONSHIP, INCLUDE ME IN THE SCREENCAP, 1V1 ME IRL, AND GIVE REDDIT GOLD.

Predictions circled in red.

Here are my Predictions
Tye Dillinger vs. Aiden English
Randy Orton vs. Jinder Mahal (i really hope he wins)
The Usos vs. Breezango (Breezango needs to win. This gimmick is just awesome)
Kevin Owens vs. AJ Styles
Naomi, Charlotte Flair, and Becky Lynch vs. The Welcoming Committee
Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Dolph Ziggler
Baron Corbin vs. Sami Zayn
Luke Harper vs. Erick Rowan

Huh, only got one wrong. Regardless, great Takeover, many emotions were sparked, particularly at the end of the show. The UK match was absolutely fantastic and easily MOTN. The NXT Championship match and the Tag Title ladder match were also great. I'm quite surprised at the lack of CM Punk chants; when they started to emerge, they were immediately shot down, which I think is great of the Chicago crowd.

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT JUST HAPPENED?!!!!!!!!!!

THE ABSOLUTE MADMEN THEY DID IT THOSE MAGNIFICENT BASTARDS THEY ACTUALLY FUCKING DID IT

We memed Jinder into the WWE championship

Decent PPV, thrilled by the balls on WWE's booking.

Sami landed a win over backstage fave Corbin as well, so that was pretty nice.

HE
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BIG
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PUNJABI

Alright, another WWE PPV this Sunday, another predictions post. Winners will be in bold:

WWE Extreme Rules

• Sasha Banks & Rich Swann vs. Noam Dar & _ALEEESHUH FAAAAAAAAAWKS

• Neville© vs. Austin Aries (Cruiserweight Title, Submission Match)

I think management's too high on Neville to take the belt away from him at this time, so I'm thinking he keeps it till Summerslam.

• The Not So Broken Hardyz© vs. Shesaro (RAW Tag Team Titles, Steel Cage Match)

• Dean Ambrose© vs. The Miz (Intercontinental Title, No Champ's Advantage: Champ loses title if disqualified)

Kinda hope that Miz gets back his IC title. I think he'll find some clever way to cheat Ambrose out of a win.

• Alexa Bliss© vs. Bayley (RAW Women's Title, Kendo Stick on a Pole)

Yeeeeeaaaaah… after that awful "This is Your Life" segment that basically shit all over Bayley (and to some degree Bliss too), Bayley's not getting that title back.

• Roman Reigns vs. Seth Rollins vs. Bray Wyatt vs. Finn Balor vs. Samoa Joe (No. 1 Contender's Match for Universal Title, Fatal 5-Way)

After that segment last Monday (or two weeks ago, I can't recall) with Heyman and Balor, I'm confident in Balor in winning the match. If he does win, I hope they just don't build this like a regular Bork match.

Am i the only one here with a Fantasy Wrestling promotion?

Let's do this?

• Sasha Banks & Rich Swann vs. Noam Dar & _ALEEESHUH FAAAAAAAAAWKS
• Neville© vs. Austin Aries (Cruiserweight Title, Submission Match): Wild prediction, Metalik wins at SummerSlam.
• Hardyz© vs. Shesaro (RAW Tag Team Titles, Steel Cage Match): With all the momentum they've gotten, I can see Shesaro winning this. I hope we get Broken really soon.
• "Lunatic Cringe" Dean Ambrose© vs. The Miz (Intercontinental Title, No Champ’s Advantage: Champ loses title if disqualified):On one hand, this stipulation is stupid, but on the other I wanna see Miz back with the Intercontinental title. I would like to see Miz winning when the match starts and Angle making a NHB match (but it won't happen and we'll have 20 minutes of Dean and Miz figthing with Maryse not even trying to disqualify Dean).
• Alexa Bliss© vs. Bayley (RAW Women’s Title, Dildo on a Pole):Let's be real, if Bayley doesn't win here she should hang up the boots because her career will be dead, she looked like a chump in last week's segment (and basically all the buildup for this match). Besides I think they shouldn't have put the title on Blissfu yet #MickieJames4Champ.
• Roman Reigns vs. Seth Rollins vs. Bray Wyatt vs. Finn Balor vs. Samoa Joe (No. 1 Contender’s Match for Universal Title, Fatal 5-Way): Time for mah boi to win, I only pray for the match to not be a "Suplex City" shitfest that will kill all Balor's momentum. As second option, I can see Smoa Joe winning. Dream (aka unprobable) result: The Club helps Finn here and on GBoF and they form Baelor Club.

Predictions

iksdreme rulez
Roman Reigns vs. Seth Rollins vs. Finn Bálor vs. Bray Wyatt vs. Samoa Joe (who else)
Dean Ambrose vs. The Miz (with Maryse)
Alexa Bliss vs. Bayley
The Hardy Boyz vs. Cesaro and Sheamus
Neville vs. Austin Aries
Rich Swann and Sasha Banks vs. Noam Dar and Alicia Fox

Roman Reigns vs. Seth Rollins vs. Finn Bálor vs. Bray Wyatt vs. Samoa Joe
Dean Ambrose vs. The Miz (with Maryse)
Alexa Bliss vs. Bayley
The Hardy Boyz vs. Cesaro and Sheamus
Neville vs. Austin Aries
Rich Swann and Sasha Banks vs. Noam Dar and Alicia Fox

>Assuming there will be pre-show matches
Kalisto vs. Titus O'Neil
Goldust vs. R-Truth

@Neko I personally never got into e-fedding myself, but I used to RP a little using the video games when I was younger. My OCs had long and storied histories, I used to keep spreadsheets of their movesets and everything lol.

EXTREME predictions

• Swann & Banks vs Dar & Foxy (going out on a limb here lol)
• Aries vs Neville © – Cruiserweight Title
• Sheasaro vs Hardys © – Tag Title
• The Miz vs Ambrose © – IC Title (lol at this DQ stip on this show)
• Bayley vs Bliss © – Women's Title
• Bálor to win the 5-way.

And then onwards … to Great Balls of Fire!

Alright, so Mildly Extreme Rules was fairly decent, and I did end up liking it more than Backlash to be completely honest. Most of the matches were pretty good, with the main event in particular being the MOTN. The only match I considered bad was the Women's "Kendo Stick on a Pole" Match, which wasn't necessarily bad per se, but it was awfully short and a prime example of RAW's terrible booking. I'm fine with Alexa Bliss retaining, as I'm a fan of her, but I'm also a fan of Bayley, and by god has her booking been awful in the last few months. She's booked like a total chump, not like some relatable underdog. The "This is Your Life" segment last Monday didn't do any favors for Bayley, and neither did this match.

Why the fuck is WWE wasting a talent like Apollo Crews? for fucks sakes

PREDICTIONS FOR MONEY IN THE BANK 2017

Post 'em, my predicted winners in bold

• Hype Bros vs Colons (this is a pre-show match apparently, count it or don't, whatever)
• Lana vs Naomi © – SD Women's Championship
• New Day vs Usos © – SD Tag Championship :(
• Charlotte Flair to win the Women's Money in the Bank match
• Big Banter Corbin to win the Men's Money in the Bank match
• Orton vs Mahal © – WWE Championship – if Jinder loses after a month that will still count as hindered, you better not take it off him WWE >:(

No further commentary:

Hype Bros vs Colons (P)
Lana vs Naomi © – SD Women’s Championship: #BlackExcellence, I can see a cash-in after the match is over.
New Day vs Usos © – SD Tag Championship: rip Uggos
Carmella to win the Women’s Money in the Bank match
Balanced Breakfast Corbin to win the Men’s Money in the Bank match
Orton vs Mahal © – WWE Championship – Randy is at his hometown, he loses for sure

Alright, before I get into Money In The Bank predictions, I feel obligated to bring this up:

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Anyways, predictions for MitB:

• Hype Bros. vs. The Colons (Pre-show)

• Lana vs. Naomi© (SDL Women's Title)

• New Day vs. The Uggos© (SDL Tag Team Titles)

• Becky Lynch vs. Charlotte Flair vs. Carmella and THE BIG HOG vs. Natalya vs. Tamina (Women's MitB Ladder Match)

• AJ Styles THE GAY COMMUNITY?! vs. Sami Zayn vs. Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Baron Corbin vs. Kevin Owens vs. Dog Ziggler (MitB Ladder Match)

• Randy Orton vs. THE MODERN DAY MAHARAJA AND WWE CHAMP JINDER MAHAL (WWE Title)

THE CHAMP IS MYAAAAHHHHH

- Hype Bros. vs The Colons (PS)

- Becky Lynch vs Charlotte Flair vs Carmella (and James Ellsworth) vs Tamina
vs Natalya (1st Ever Women's MITB match)

- The New Day vs The Ugg Boots (SD Tag-Title Match)

- Lana vs Naomi (SD Women's Title Match)
– BONUS PREDICTION : Carmella to cash in after the match and win the
SD Live Women's Title

- AJ Style vs Sami Zayn vs Shinsuke Nakamura vs Baron Corbin vs Kevin
Owens vs Dolphy Ziggles (MITB Match)

- Randy Orton vs BIG POPPA PUNJABI, THE MODERN DAY MAHARAJA,
JINDER MAHAL

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(btw Smackdown is the only show i watch right now)

The Hype Bros vs. The Colóns (Primo and Epico)
Jinder Mahal © vs. Randy Orton
Kevin Owens vs. AJ Styles vs. Baron Corbin vs. Sami Zayn vs. Dolph Ziggler vs. Shinsuke Nakamura
The Usos (Jey and Jimmy Uso) © vs. The New Day (Big E, Kofi Kingston, and/or Xavier Woods)
Becky Lynch vs. Charlotte Flair vs. Natalya vs. Tamina vs. Carmella (with James Ellsworth)
Naomi © vs. Lana
(Lana vs Charlotte feud incoming)

BIG BANTER IN THE BANK

So, Money in the Bank, eh? Decent PPV, all the matches were at the very least alright. Some folks question some of the booking done tonight, but I'm fine with it. One match did feel particularly unnecessary, and easily could've taken place in a throwaway Smackdown episode. MOTN was the main event: great match, lots of cool ladder spots, and some outright fanservice with teases of potential, exciting feuds. So yeah, that was my short rundown of MitB; again, a decent PPV overall, no real bad matches or bad booking, but your typical WWE PPV. Guess there's Great Balls of Fire to look forward to next.

What a stinker of a PPV until the main event. The show opened with 4 fuck finishes in a row! It was just too much. I would've been fine with the Ellsworth booking (and indeed I popped hard for that) if there had been a decisive finish in the great tag match. After that it was just fuckery after fuckery. Too much heeling.

Lmao there's a fair bit of rage over the Ellsworth thing. Of course the villainous female used a man to win; a face female wouldn't have. That's the point lol.

All's worth and Ellsworth.

I'm going over to the side that the heat it generates is at the company and not Carmellsworth. Such an awful booking decision after the hype makes me not wanna tune in rather than see how the story develops.

to give this thread more life

When do you started watching wrestling?
Me was in Summer 2007
every Saturday a horrible cutted version of Smackdown on german TV
but it was still great

Winter 2005. Badly cutted episode of Raw.
It was still awesome

First time I started watching wrestling was probably late 2010 or early 2011. Back then it was my little brother who was watching it, and I, like many doubters of pro wrestling, thought it was all stupid. And yet, I actually started to watch with my brother and become more invested into it (without telling him of course). Though my memory of those years are somewhat hazy, I do remember Punk dropping the pipe bomb, and even earlier Edge's retirement. But, as 2011 went by, both my brother and I stopped watching. It wouldn't be until early 2016 that I decide to try and get into wrestling again, only this time, I was going all out on it. And here I am, a pro wrestling fan.

Summer of 2008, a bit before the build up to SummerSlam. I stopped in June of July of the following year.

Then in October of last year I got into it again thanks to Eglamore, Patrician and Space Cowboy as they would discuss about wrestling all the time.

Goddamn, they actually referenced it on Smackdown Live.

i update my post
i watched from 2007 – 2011 because it was removed from tv and replaced with TNA then in 2014 i restarted watching before WM30

Alright, two things in this post. First, gonna briefly talk about the US G1 Special New Japan had at Long Beach. I know a couple users went to the two-night show live, and I'm absolutely jealous at them and also mad at myself for not getting the tickets on time, but whatever. The shows were fantastic. Day Two probably had the best match from Kenny Omega and Tomohiro Ishii. I do hope New Japan succeeds in their US expansion. And I hope next time they come back to the States, I get tickets on time.

Next, about the upcoming WWE PPV:

I think they changed the logo awhile ago, but I do kinda miss the obvious phallic imagery.

Anyways, since GREAT BALLS OF FIIIIIIIIIIIRE is this Sunday, it's time for predictions. Winners marked in bold:

• Neville© vs. Akira Tozawa (Cruiserweight Title; Pre-show)
  Why the hell is this on the pre-show of all things?

• Enzo Amore vs. Big Cass (Pre-show…? I think? Someone correct me on that)

• Roman Reigns vs. Braun Strowman (Ambulance match)
  THE BIG DAWG ALWAYS STANDS TALL!!! #AHHYESSIR

• Shesaro© vs. The Unbroken Hardy Boyz (RAW Tag Team Titles; 30-minute Iron-Man match)

• Seth Rollins vs. Bray Wyatt

• Alexa Bliss vs. Sasha Banks (RAW Women's Title)

• The Miz© vs. Deanetty Ambrose (IC Title)

• Bork Laser© vs. SMO JOE HE'S FAT (Universal Title)
  I really want Joe to win this match, but I don't see Bork dropping it to anyone but THE BIG DAWG at Mania next year. Unless, perhaps, plans, uh, change.

>Great Ball of Fire
hahahahhahahahhahahahha
anyway haven't watched wrestling a while but still
hahahha what a name haha

Neville © vs. Akira Tozawa (with Titus O'Neil)
Brock Lesnar © (with Paul Heyman) vs. Samoa Joe
(if Samoa wins im his number 1 fan)
Roman Reigns vs. Braun Strowman
Alexa Bliss © vs. Sasha Banks
Seth Rollins vs. Bray Wyatt
Enzo Amore vs. Big Cass
The Miz © (with Maryse, Bo Dallas, and Curtis Axel) vs. Dean Ambrose
Cesaro and Sheamus © vs. The Hardy Boyz (Jeff and Matt Hardy)

Austin Aries asked for release :(

Prediction time:

• Neville © vs. Akira Tozawa (with Titus O’Neil): Not until SS
• Brock Lesnar © (with Paul Heyman) vs. Samoa Joe: I would love them to pull the trigger but I think the change will be in SS
• Roman Reigns vs. Braun Strowman: Will the Big Dawg beat the odds?
• Alexa Bliss © vs. Sasha Banks: Not until SS
• Seth Rollins vs. Bray Wyatt: Eater of pins
• Enzo Amore vs. Big Cass: Cass will probably win but I want to believe.
• The Miz © (with Maryse, Bo Dallas, and Curtis Axel) vs. Dean Ambrose: I hope this means the end of this feud.
• Cesaro and Sheamus © vs. The Hardy Boyz (Jeff and Matt Hardy): Not until SS

pre PPV bets

does anyone watches the pro wrestling wordcup?
i only watched the first 2 matches of the german qualifier and…
BAD BONES BAD BONES BAD BONES BAD BONES

Alright, so two things:

The G1 Climax has been a thing for the past few days, and I just wanted to remind everyone that if you have the chance each day of the tournament, I suggest you should, as the matches have been great. For example, the match Kenny Omega had with Minoru Suzuki was fantastic. I've still got some catching-up to do, but if you're all caught up, I believe Day 5 is or was today. If you want to see some quality matches, check out New Japan's G1 Climax shows.

Next, WWE Battleground. The PPV's tomorrow, so I think it's about time for predictions. Once again, winners are marked in bold:

• Aiden English vs. THE PERFECT 10 Tye Dillinger (pre-show)

• Sami Zayn vs. THE POWER OF LOVE Mike Kanellis

• The Uggos© vs. The New Day (SDL Tag Team Titles)

• The Artist known as Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Big Banter Baron Corbin

• Charlotte Flair vs. Lana vs. Tamina vs. Becky Lynch vs. Natalya (SDL Women's Title No. 1 Contender; Elimination)

• JOHN CENA vs. Machka Rusev (Flag Match)

• AJ Styles© vs. Kevin Owens (US Title)

• The Modern Day Maharaja Jinder Mahal© vs. Randy Orton (WWE Title; Punjabi Prison)

u spooked me with that image
also

Tye Dillinger vs. Aiden English
Jinder Mahal © (with The Singh Brothers) vs. Randy Orton (HE WILL WIN)
The Usos (Jey and Jimmy Uso) © vs. The New Day (Big E, Kofi Kingston, and/or Xavier Woods)
Cena Wins lol vs. Rusev
Charlotte Flair vs. Becky Lynch vs. Natalya vs. Tamina vs. Lana
Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Baron Corbin
AJ Styles © vs. Kevin Owens
Sami Zayn vs. Mike Kanellis (with Maria Kanellis)

also this Kurt Angle Son Storyline is bullshit and a rip off of the Mcmahon-hornswoggle shit 10 years ago