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KYM Pony General V: We Just Don't Know What Went Wrong

Last posted Jul 01, 2012 at 04:43PM EDT. Added Feb 19, 2012 at 11:27PM EST
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Ephemeral_Athambia wrote:

I think that depressing wasteland of a home the Changelings hail from might be part of the reason for their hunger. Compared to the rest of the areas in the show, that piece of land is dead; hardly any variation in color (even the Everfree Forest has more color than their land), and completely isolated.

I can imagine how hard it would be for anything to show love in that land. It doesn't help that the Changelings are Body Horror all over, so unless they disguise themselves as something else, and travel far from home, they would never get love to feed on.

On that thought, I bet Our Dear Queen Chrysalis would have been much kinder and less greedy if she had a happier place to live in. Exposure to Equestria would probably feed her and her subjects well enough to thrive.

Not to mention the massive torrent of love she would be getting from her servants in another realm who gladly shower her with affection. That alone could keep her satiated for a good long while.

Technically changelings are parasites, and their relationship with other species is decidedly un-symbiotic since they deceive their victims and leave them drained. So I doubt "peaceful-coexistence" was ever an option, such is the law of nature.

Plus, well, they're giant bugs, as much as I love Chrysalis I don't think she has very good foresight.

Gigatoast wrote:

Technically changelings are parasites, and their relationship with other species is decidedly un-symbiotic since they deceive their victims and leave them drained. So I doubt "peaceful-coexistence" was ever an option, such is the law of nature.

Plus, well, they're giant bugs, as much as I love Chrysalis I don't think she has very good foresight.

Now now, I don't think they have been dismissed as simple parasites yet. If they were parasites, I doubt they could have survived long in their inhospitable land with that many to feed.

As for them being insectoid, I think that they could be interpreted as being plant-like as well; tree-like, to be specific.

>Gnarled horns
>Hard exterior
>Hoary hooves
>Moss like hair (for Our Dear Queen)

They resemble swamp-faring trees as much as they do insects, it seems.

@Pyro

If my tree hypothesis is correct, you may want to leave that flamethrower of yours at home. And flare gun. And matchbox. And the Phlogistinator. And Hadoken powers.

Last edited Apr 24, 2012 at 07:30PM EDT

Ephemeral_Athambia wrote:

Now now, I don't think they have been dismissed as simple parasites yet. If they were parasites, I doubt they could have survived long in their inhospitable land with that many to feed.

As for them being insectoid, I think that they could be interpreted as being plant-like as well; tree-like, to be specific.

>Gnarled horns
>Hard exterior
>Hoary hooves
>Moss like hair (for Our Dear Queen)

They resemble swamp-faring trees as much as they do insects, it seems.

@Pyro

If my tree hypothesis is correct, you may want to leave that flamethrower of yours at home. And flare gun. And matchbox. And the Phlogistinator. And Hadoken powers.

Who says they just lived in that wasteland? It's perfectly reasonable to think they spread themselves all throughout the planet and simply operated out of a central hive, or that they go from region to region slowly devouring everything in their path. Besides, how do you know the inhospitality of the land wasn't a result of them having drained it of life?

And no, they're not trees, they're bugs. That's just silly.

@Verbose: It's spreeeeeeaaading. >:D

Last edited Apr 24, 2012 at 07:55PM EDT

Two types of art I'm waiting for:
1) Wet mane of Chrysalis.
2) Colour edited versions of Chrysalis to look like other ponies.

Anyway, have some Chrysatree:

But yes, she is insectoid in nature, that's why she's named Chrysalis.

Last edited Apr 24, 2012 at 08:01PM EDT

Gigatoast wrote:

Who says they just lived in that wasteland? It's perfectly reasonable to think they spread themselves all throughout the planet and simply operated out of a central hive, or that they go from region to region slowly devouring everything in their path. Besides, how do you know the inhospitality of the land wasn't a result of them having drained it of life?

And no, they're not trees, they're bugs. That's just silly.

@Verbose: It's spreeeeeeaaading. >:D

That area is where the queen lands. One can guess that that is where their main hive, as you called it, would be. And it looks pretty barren to me. I'd be angry if my homeland looked like the Capital Wasteland.

And your idea that they drained their own land could be true, indeed. Which is why they need more lands to overconsume. Now, I can think of another being that overconsumes and destroys their land, and they can still coexist. It's a population issue; they have too many mouths to feed, and not enough nutrients for that feeding. But if love is all they need to survive, being accepted by the rest of Equestria…hopefully leading to being loved by Equestria…would be enough to let them thrive without raiding other lands and doing whatever it is they do to the inhabitants.

I never said they were trees, I made a hypothesis. Until it is disproved by Word of God, I think it's relevant.

Last edited Apr 24, 2012 at 08:06PM EDT

Now, let us overanalyze the meaning of the name 'Changeling.'

The overt meaning is just what it means: change-ling. A creature that changes (appearance in this case).
But if you look at other meanings for changeling, such as the first one on Merriam-Webster, it says it means a 'turncoat' which means a defector or traitor. This could lead you to wonder where the Changelings came from or how they were made. Perhaps they were ponies that sold their souls to the Zebra King Queen Chrysalis in exchange for something.
What do you think?

Changlings are mythical monsters that sneak into houses with small children and replace them. They feed off the mother until she dies, then move on. That's probably why these changlings replace loved ones and feed off of your love for them. Sort of a more kid-friendly version of the myth. We've seen several other examples of mythology applied to the show, so the logical conclusion is that the changlings are as well.

Last edited Apr 24, 2012 at 09:05PM EDT

My theory on the changelings is that they are descendants of the same species as ponies.

As changelings possess magical abilities, they could be more related to unicorns than most.

What made the changelings so different from normal ponies and what propelled them to devour love?

The changelings evolved in an area full of magic and life.

Also magic and life force are the same thing. Think of magic as being another term for chi, or vital energy as we westerners call it.

As they only needed the magic of surrounding plants to survive, they evolved to only need to suck said life from those plants. In their perspective, sucking the life out of a tree is the same as killing thousands of wheat plants to make your bread. So the changelings would be getting their vital energy directly, rather than through the indirect process of digestion, thus allowing for greater efficiency at living and resulting in their species flourishing.

However, the great blizzard stopped all of that. Their once lush forests and jungles withered away and became wasteland. As their food source grew smaller, the changelings had to find other ways to get life-force. As shown by the last episode, emotions like love has a direct correlation to magic (ie lifeforce). As magic is life force, the changelings were reduced to feeding off of love to survive.

As they declined, they became more and more desperate and their once great culture declined. In order to just survive, they had invade other areas and antagonize the locals. As the years passed, no one knew they had to do this to live and the various myths and fears of them simply grew out of their draconian method of survival

tl;dr

The changelings are simply ponies that evolved to live off of life force they naturally get from their natural habitat. Life force is magic. As magic is exuded by such emotions as love, the changelings have to feed off of love to live. They antagonize other species because their natural habitat and natural way of survival both disappeared.

Last edited Apr 24, 2012 at 09:34PM EDT

Peoply of Pony General, I have returned.

@RandomMan

Dear god… I fear a great rustling of the jimmies may be upon us. I would wish it otherwise.

ExudesAffluence wrote:

Peoply of Pony General, I have returned.

@RandomMan

Dear god… I fear a great rustling of the jimmies may be upon us. I would wish it otherwise.

Welcome back.

And I don't think this thread is that bothered by shipping. Most of us just lol at the topic, which is the correct response.

Erin ◕ω◕ wrote:

The page of party is nearly upon us; arm your party hard images and music.

Heaven forbid we should just make meaningless posts to get to said page of partying

Well, I have to double-post, but this is bomb-ass.

Epic Rap Battles of Equestria: Zecora vs Iron Will

Iron Will:
Let me tell ya, Zecora,
I got some news for ya!
It might come as a shock,
But my skills rock!

I’m gonna be assertive,
You’re gonna be furtive!
I’m gonna rhyme it right,
With my immense might!

Oh yea-uh, sister!
I demand you call me Mister,
Because you’re a doormat,
And I’m so phat!

Zecora:
Listen up, Iron Will,
To somepony with skill.
You might be able to rap,
But you don’t have any snap.

Heed my words, minotaur-folk,
Else you will look like a joke.
Don’t try your hand at me,
Or defeated, is what you’ll be.

You might be bold,
But your lyrics are old.
I would try my best,
But I’ll save it for the rest.

Iron Will:
Iron Will can’t believe my ears,
My laughter’ll bring me to tears!
Somepony just challenged me,
How big a fool can ya be?

Try to fight Iron Will
He’ll handle your swill!
Get ready for my strike,
It’ll give you a pain spike!

Take your time,
I’ll take your rhyme!
Try to beat this minotaur,
With how ugly your raps are!

Zecora:
Do my ears play tricks?
Do they require a fix?
Neigh, they don’t lie,
I was just challenged by some guy.

I must confess,
I’d expect no less.
One who gets on stage,
And tries to spread rage.

My raps are bad,
Claims one so sad.
Check your brain,
It might be in pain.

Iron Will:
Iron Will wants you here,
So the crowds know who to cheer!
Does Iron Will see you shed a single tear?
Iron Will’s lyrical power is sheer!

Oh yea-uh, Iron Will just dropped it!
But don’t throw a fit,
Or chew right through your bit!
Iron Will’s passions are lit!

Have you met the Boulder?
Iron Will made him smoulder!
What might be your chance?
Iron Will won’t give you a glance!

Zecora:
Surely we are wasting time,
To see who can rhyme.
There is no doubt in my mind,
That were are not the same kind.

I have unmatched ability,
Your attempts induce pity.
This fight should abate,
There is no need to wait.

To make an attempt at me,
Is a simple fallacy.
So, I implore you, Iron Will,
Leave, while you can, still.

Princess Luna:
ENOUGH!

Verily, this conflict must reach an end.
Both of you cretins must bend!
To the Princess of the Night, thou are hoarse!
You cannot withstand our UNRELENTING FORCE!

Forsooth, flee now, for all thou can.
Before your mangy hides, we tan.
We threaten you because to us,
A trifling matter, not worth a fuss!

Stand before your Princess!
Your failure, thou must profess!
Surely, it is obvious to all,
Of the distance thou must fall.

Hold no whimpering doubt,
Of the power in my shout!
The Royal Canterlot Voice,
Will leave no choice!

Humble thyself before thou better,
To ‘Tia, thou will send a letter!
Inform dear sister of what you learned,
As, verily, thou hath been burned.

Spike:
AW DAAAAAAAAMN, SON!
Y’all just got burned!
Nurse Redheat, bring some ice, if you’d be so kind.

So, after several weeks of procrastination, forgetting about it, and debating whether the Princess of Caps Lock should totally scorch the competition, I finished the rap battle I started on page 70.

PopperFett the Mandalore wrote:

Where's Verbose? He's main forum mod for this one right?
Come on, join the party!

Not quite. Moderators just make Pony General threads as a symbol of approval. It was suggested that I start the thread, because I just became a moderator and I'm the only forum moderator who's a brony, I think (Chris is a database mod, so he has entry powers as well.) If a non-mod started a thread, then it may not begin on a good note.

It requires a long explanation, but simply:

  • I'm not posting in this thread as often as I used to for various reasons (explained earlier in Pony General V)
  • I don't enjoy image spam. (explained in Pony General I)
  • I'm working on schoolwork. (I'm a grad student.)

http://ask-engie.tumblr.com/

Out of curiosity try this.
It's a little test run I'm doing. Don't mind the first two. I asked my friend to ask a question and so he did !
I might add a lot more changes.

Last edited Apr 24, 2012 at 11:46PM EDT
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