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Vlad wrote:

Looking at the map now, I'm amazed we all started out as tiny colored dots scrambling to be the first to develop language and spears. Now we're all massive Empires trying to prevent major wars and develop nuclear weapons.

Now that you think about it, it is amazing.

Haha, I only felt safe in saying that speech knowing that religion is now taking somewhat of a back seat to the effects of economics :P
Hmm Sweetibellions might be against the persucution of religious beliefs but I'm sure they'll understand our views in that it pushed us into a war with them in the sense.
Thought it's a good job we aren't true fascists, anti-communism and all :P

But fear now, the Zçùlians shall be asked to leave for your own lands or those still in touch with Zçùlanism. If they refuse to leave, they will have to be imprisoned or forced out the country, sadly.

Yeah, though I had quite a bit of land mass to begin with when I took over the reigns, it's been one hell of a ride. Quite happy that I don't have to deal with so many lands over seas though to be honest. I'm a true turtle player <3.

Y'know, if you check the religion spread map, there's not even a significant amount of Zçùlanists in Deisa. At all. You'd be deporting, like, less than 1% of your population. Though this is getting nit picky, I think it'd be a waste of government money to actively do anything to them. Let them feel stigma and discrimination by the Deisan majority, but it would be kinda pointless to make laws for about 1000 people, if there's even that many, living in Deisa.

Last edited Jul 27, 2011 at 05:08PM EDT

Principe del Buio wrote:

Y'know, if you check the religion spread map, there's not even a significant amount of Zçùlanists in Deisa. At all. You'd be deporting, like, less than 1% of your population. Though this is getting nit picky, I think it'd be a waste of government money to actively do anything to them. Let them feel stigma and discrimination by the Deisan majority, but it would be kinda pointless to make laws for about 1000 people, if there's even that many, living in Deisa.

Less than 1% of the population is still significant enough to make a scapegoat out of. 1% of the US population today would be upwards of three million people. And my maps do not show the only faiths present in a region, just the majorities. Lets just say that if I were making a religion map for 1936 Europe, I would not include Judaism anywhere.

Last edited Jul 27, 2011 at 05:24PM EDT

Fair point. Just send your Zçùlanists my way, Vardamir, I'd gladly accept them and add onto my population and workforce. I mean, you could go the genocide route, but that would be a surefire way to ruin foreign relations with almost everyone…

It just adds a bit of flair to our country.
If I had it my way, we'd hardly even care about religion.

But they'll be sent your way.

I'm also going to take a slice of Israel policy but with a slight twist and give citizenship to any person who can prove that they're Deisan by blood/religious belief.

So uh, any clues on when the next turn shall be posted…? The lack of activity in this thread is starting to depress me…

KYMnatRP Turn 18


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Notes
-Regarding spies, there is a 33% chance that you will succeed, a 66% chance you will fail, and a 16% chance that your spy will make international headlines when caught. For nuclear technologies, your chances of success are significantly lower. If nothing is mentioned about your spy actions, assume that they failed.
-Symbols for each alliance have been added to the map. You should take note of which alliance a nation is in before you decide to take military actions against them.

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Medicea – RocketPropelledPanda – Cute Pink
Status: Fascist Dictatorship
Epoch: Information Age
Army: Average Specialist (Rifle, Machine Gun, Petard, Light Tank, Artillery)
Navy: Average Specialist (Dreadnought, Submarine)
AirF: Average Trained (Monoplane, Napalm, Germ Bomb)
Nuke: Miniscule Civilian (Atomic Bomb)
Econ: Massive Industrial-Agrarian (Internet, Radio, Modern Medicine)

-The atomic bomb is proudly boasted as a Medicean discovery, and production begins on an stockpile of bombs.
-The internet is invented to facilitate communication and file sharing between important institutions, and a network of cables are being stretched across the nation to connect military outposts and science labs to eachother.
-MediceaMedical has established monopolies in many new markets, most notably, farming. 98% of the land in Medicea and her colonies is now owned by the massive corporation. The company has changed its name to MediceaCorp. to reflect this change of business.
-The Medicean naval forces are sent to break the blockade of Africa in the Mediterranean. Engaging Borgian forces, they quickly outnumber the Borg navy, forcing them to retreat into the Red Sea. Borgia, having spread themselves thin across the east African coast, was unable to turn back the attack and has been removed from the Eastern Mediterranean and the Aegean sea.
-The airforce has launched a terror campaign against Borgia, dropping germ bombs and napalm over major cities, targeting military bases and air fields with concussive bombs as secondary targets.
-Land forces storm across the unfortified and indefensible central European border, and then spread out into the Balkans. Borg forces scramble to respond, but the attack has taken them entirely by surprise and much land is lost.

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United States of Atlantis – Kokuu – Cyan
Status: Constitutional Confederacy
Epoch: Industrial Age
Army: Big Specialist (Rifle, Machine Gun, SMG, Grenade, Trucks, Cannon)
Navy: Average Specialist (Dreadnought, Destroyer, Submarine)
Econ: Massive Industrial-Commercial (Calculator, Atomic Engineering 2)

-Atomic engineering is funded further.
-The electric calculator and the submachine gun are invented.
-Industrialization continues as Atlantean factories are quickly displacing the entire farming community, providing jobs of higher pay and better consistency. However, this is making the US extremely dependent upon foreign imports for food, clothing, and raw materials. More and larger harbours are springing up along the coast to facilitate this new trade demand.
-The world's first fully underground subway system is build in the capital.
-Freedom of religion is finally guaranteed constitutionally through an amendment, even though the nation was founded on religious freedom and such rights were essentially guaranteed by default from the start. Many see this as pointless legislation and federal meddling in the affairs of the individual states.
-Research grants are being distributed out of the shallow tax pool to universities.
-A portion of the military expenditure is donated to resistance groups in Cuba and Hyrule. The Cubans toss this money into inflating the police force and expanding the educational system, and Hyrule places it entirely into the purchase and maintenance of arms.

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Hephaestus – Vlad – Forest Green
Status: Constitutional Monarchy
Epoch: Atomic Age
Army: Average Specialist (Rifle, Machine Gun, SMG, Medium Tank, Artillery)
Navy: Average Specialist (Dreadnought, Submarine)
AirF: Small Trained (Jetplane)
Nuke: Miniscule Civilian (Atomic Reactor, Atomic Bomb)
Econ: Big Commercial-Industrial (Calculator, Radio)

-The jet engine and the electric calculator are invented.
-Cuba is granted freedom through a peace treaty, but not officially recognized as a state. The Caribbean rebellion quickly dies down and Cuba begins to construct its own government in Morón.
-Hyrule is "invaded," and anybody suspected of assisting the rebellion is executed. After a lengthy campaign into Canada and a major battle at Niagara falls, the rebels have mostly retreated into hiding, but still strike in guerrilla attacks from across the Lakotan, Medicean, and Borgian borders.
-The invasion of Australia goes well, and the resistance there is finally crushed.

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Borgia – Mr. Biscuits – Hot Pink
Status: Fascist Dicatorship
Epoch: Industrial Age
Army: Average Militia (Rifle, Machine Gun, SMG, Petard, Medium Tank, Artillery)
Navy: Big Trained (Dreadnought, Destroyer, Submarine)
AirF: Small Trained (Jetplane, Napalm)
Nuke: Miniscule Civilian (Atomic Reactor, Atomic Bomb, BRBM)
Econ: Massive Industrial-Commercial (Radio, Modern Medicine)

-The jetplane is becoming integrated into the air forces, although nobody can pinpoint the company that invented it.
-The Atomic bomb is invented, and the first test successfully destroys a mountain in the northern reaches of the Urals. The test was made underground within the mountain in order to reduce fallout.
-The world's first sub-orbital ballistic missile is test-launched in Borgia. The rocket is not capable of traveling more than three hundred and fifty kilometers. (BRBM = Battlefield Range Ballistic Missile)
-Increases in investments to the military raise the size of the air force an fund the production of atomic weapons.
-An operation to reclaim Libya has been called off due to the Medicean seizure of the eastern Mediterranean.
-Governmental regulations of sexual intercourse has set off riots in the capital, and to justify their actions the government was forced to tear up the old constitution and replace it with a more modern, flexible document allowing them to do as they please. Normally this would have thrown the entire population up in arms, but the invasion by Medicea has drawn the public's attention to the war and the riots have died down for the most part.
-Borgia now has the world's first and only female fascist dictatorship.

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Sweetietopia – Lord Sweetie Belle – Maroon
Status: Democratic Republic
Epoch: Atomic Age
Army: Massive Trained (Rifle, Machine Gun, Petard, Light Tank, Artillery, Napalm)
Navy: None (Galleon)
AirF: Small Trained (Jetplane, BRBM, Radar)
Nuke: Miniscule Civilian (Atomic Reactor, Atomic Bomb)
Econ: Big Agrarian-Industrial ()

-Ballistic missile research has yielded a new weapon capable of delivering a payload, nuclear or otherwise, long distances.
-The jetplane and the atomic bomb are invented. The first bomb is tested over the waters in the Indian ocean as a form of intimidation against the Borg.
-Mirroring the Medicean attack, massive amounts of explosives are dropped over the Borgian Mediterranean coastal cities. Paratroopers drop into Greece and Crete as Medicean maritime transports aid in moving soldiers across the sea.

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Deisa – Vardamir – Neon Green
Status: Fascist Dictatorship
Epoch: Industrial Age
Army: Big Specialist (Rifle, SMG, Machine Gun, Grenade, Light Tank, Artillery)
Navy: Average Trained (Dreadnought, Destroyer, Sumbarine)
AirF: Miniscule Trained (Glider Plane, Helicopter)
Econ: Big Agrarian-Industrial (Atomic Engineering 2)

-Deisa pledges its allegiance to their former enemies in the Sweetiebellion.
-The army undergoes radical reformation, with the selection process being made tougher on recruits and modern body armour and weapon models being implemented. Checkpoints are established within and around cities, and the police force has been entirely replaced by the army. The army is split into multiple different corps, all of which prize mobility over firepower.
-The helicopter is invented as an aid to moving medical supplies and injured soldiers about the battlefield.
-Dams and windmills are being built along the Nile's tributaries.
-The Deisan religion is making a public revival as the natural conservatism of the government makes itself apparent.

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Giozzario – Nick Estbosco – Orange
Status: Federal Socialist Republic
Epoch: Atomic Age
Army: Big Trained (Rifles, Machine Gun, SMG, Petard, Light Tank, Artillery)
Navy: Big Trained (Dreadnought, Destroyer, Sumbarine)
AirF: Miniscule Trained (Jetplane, Napalm, Germ Bomb)
Nuke: None (Atomic Reactor, Atomic Bomb, BRBM)
Econ: Average Industrial-Agrarian (Calculator, Radio)

-A Comintern alliance called "Red Friends" is assembled, including Yudea, Giozzario, Vietnam, Cambodia, Burma, Malaysia, Bangladesh, and Cuba.
-Texas is invaded and quickly overtaken. The Texan people, refusing to work under a communist regime, organize ironic strikes that would have been otherwise illegal under the recently deposed fascist dictatorship.
-The first atomic bomb is successfully tested in the Sahara desert. In addition, long range rocket systems are also being developed, and the BRBM is invented.
-With the invention of the BRBM, a space agency has been developed, and Giozzario launches a rocket that penetrates the atmosphere and successfully enters a stable orbit. As this is first man-made object to be launched into space, Giozzi citizenry celebrate the achievement with a parade and holiday. People from around the world watch as a communist nation is the first to reach the outer limits of the atmosphere.
-Burma is encouraged to invade Kayin, and military aid is sent to help achieve this.
-The industry is expanded, and carefully regulated to prevent overproduction. Internal production are taking a priority over imports, causing a national decline in trade.
-The Californian gold mines are reopened. Already having a multitude of well documented ores discovered and mine shafts started, mining operations find it very easy to set up shop on the island. National immigration from Spain and Morocco has increased the population of California.

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Yudea – NPC – Pale Green
Status: Federal Socialist Republic
Epoch: Industrial Age
Army: Massive Trained (Rifle, SMG, Machine Gun, Light Tank, Artillery)
Navy: None (Galleon)
AirF: Average Trained (Jetplane)
Nuke: None (Atomic Reactor, BRBM)
Econ: Big Industrial-Resource ()

-The navy, being old and outdated with no plans for future expansion, is entirely scrapped with all the old ships being scuttled or sold to individuals abroad.
-The BRBM, Atomic Reactor, and jet engine are all developed by Yudean "scientists". The secret service is believed to be meddling in the production of at least one of these projects.
-Kayin is invaded jointly with Burma, and immediately annexed. The young nation has very little cultural icons or history behind it, leading to an easy takeover. Deisanist monks are protesting this however, and have lit themselves aflame in protest.

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Tita – Josh – Red
Status: Kingdom
Epoch: Industrial Age
Army: Average Specialist (Rifle, Machine Gun, Petard, Light Tank, Cannon, Napalm)
Navy: Big Trained (Cog, Galleon, Submarine)
AirF: Small Trained (Jetplane, Germ Bomb, Napalm)
Econ: Big Commercial-Resource (Calculator)

-Radar technology is acquired, most likely through espionage.
-The submersible is invented, quickly followed by the submarine.
-Military investments focus on improving the airforce, and police forces are put through standard military training, essentially making the police an army corps. Environmental training is also incorporated into the army, raising quality.
-The people in Argentina are growing resentful of high taxes and a lack of democratically elected offices, and have protested this with a letter to Tita's weak parliament, who have brought it to the attention of the king.

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Equestria – Derpy Hooves – Yellow
Status: Dual Kingdom
Epoch: Industrial Age
Army: Big Specialist (Rifle, Machine Gun, Petard, Truck, Cannon)
Navy: Average Trained (Ironclad, Submersible)
AirF: Miniscule Trained (Monoplane)
Econ: Big Resource-Agrarian (Atomic Engineering 1)

-The EIB (Equestrian Information Bureau) to monitor foreign activity within Equestria's borders and spy on foreign powers.
-The monoplane is developed, and atomic research if funded.
-The Equestrian economy is shrinking into local sectors, and foreign trade is dropping. More than capable of supporting itself entirely by themselves, economic leaders are making the argument that Equestria needs to further isolate itself from the world, nationalize certain aspects of the economy, and raise tariffs.

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Lakota Aequales – DarkErmac – Gold
Status: Democratic Republic
Epoch: Industrial Age
Army: Big Civilian (Rifle, Machine Gun, SMG, Grenade, Light Tank, Artillery)
Navy: None (None)
AirF: Miniscule Trained (Monoplane)
Econ: Miniscule Agrarian Resource (Calculator, Radio, Atomic Engineering)

-The electric calculator is invented, and atomic research begins.
-Attempts to engineer a peace treaty with the Republic of Texas fails due to a state of war not existing. Furthermore, Texas has accepted the Lakotan alliance offer, and demands that they step in to help fight the Giozzi invasion.
-The western regions are being littered with land mines, causing a great number of accidental civilian casualties.

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Bythia – Shock~Value – Baby Blue
Status: Empire
Epoch: Industrial Age
Army: Average Trained (Rifle, Machine Gun, Grenade, Light Tank, Artillery)
Navy: Miniscule Militia (Raft)
Econ: Average Resource-Agrarian (Radio)

-Bythian agents attempting to overthrow the new regime in Cuba fail miserably when they prove incapable of gathering support for the Bythian emperor there. Nobody in Cuba has ever bowed to Bythian royalty and they see no reason why they should start doing so now.
-The grenade is invented.
-The radio is invented to assist in communications across the empire (this technology groups together telephones and telegraphs as well).
-Metal armor, believed to be inferior for defense, has all but died out in the land forces. Tank corps are being reduced in numbers as they are dismantled for more useful infantry forces.
-Attempts by the monarchy to slow tree felling in the rainforests has resulted in an economic recession as lumber importers worldwide are turning to other sources, such as Siberia, Canada, and Central Africa. As the forests are being uprooted, they are quickly being replaced with massive sprawling farms and plantations.
-Industry is beginning to emerge around major cities, but it remains small and military focused for the most part.

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For Reference
Military Sizes: Miniscule, Small, Average, Big, Massive
Military Ranks: Civilian, Militia, Trained, Specialist, Professional
Economy Types: Agrarian(farms), Commercial(trade), Artisan(independent production), Industrial(mass production), Resource(mining/lumber)
Nukes: Atomic Bomb, Hydrogen Bomb, Nuclear Bomb, Tsar Bomba
Rockets: BRBM, SRBM, IRBM, ICBM
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Last edited Jul 29, 2011 at 02:39AM EDT

An official statement from the People's Republic of Giozzario
We are disappointed to see our closest friend, Borgia, be invaded by the Sweetiebellion, and are calling for a peace treaty to be drafted immediately to stop the bloodshed remnants of the Great War of Zçùla. We'd be happy to host the treaty signing in our capitol, or even write one up for the nations involved. We're also noticing the highly alarming rate of nations delving into the sciences of nuclear weapons, including ourself, and are noticing the tensions continue to grow again. We propose a UN meeting on weapons of mass destruction, nuclear and otherwise, to compose international laws concerning them. Finally, as you may have noticed, Giozzario is the first nation to break the atmosphere. We're very proud of this accomplishment, and plan to be on the moon by the next turn. Once again, we are disappointed to see violence continue, especially with our friend Borgia. If it continues for any longer, Giozzario will have to consider getting militarily involved.
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I will write my RP turn tomorrow, this is simply the honourable assembly's message to the other world leaders.

Last edited Jul 29, 2011 at 02:57AM EDT

The city streets are lined with thousands of civilians. A line of soldiers who are now sporting modern body armour and modern weapons create a wall between the civilians and the road.

Today is the day that the Deisan Fascist Dictator takes to the streets in a parade of arms with the newly reformed Deisan Defence Force. Helicopters buzz over head in triangle formations, a proud Deisan invention. Drums beat to match the footsteps of the marching soldiers while other hand held musical instruments play. Thousands of soldiers march slowly behind the auto-mobile that contains the General Staff and the Lord Commander.

Light tanks rumble slowly behind the infantry and behind them come the Artillery pieces. Each soldier within the eyes of the public wearing formal dress, a long black great coat adorned with various patches depending on the division, regiment and corps they're in. The march stops at the Central plateau where the entire force on display comes to a precise halt. The Lord Commander turns to face the crowd.

"Here! Is Task Force Smith! The brave soldiers that are being sent to reclaim the eastern land of Sri Lanka for our glorious nation. Also are the volunteers that have volunteered to proceed northwards and help our allies in glorious combat against the tyranny of Borgia! Deisa is no longer a shadow but a leader in infantry warfare! Our forces man to man are unmatched! And it is this that keeps you safe at night! Our soldiers give their lives so that you might be free of any would be aggressor! We are strong when we are united!" The Lord Commander roared to the crowd and the soldiers on parade, the crowd cheered while the soldiers saluted at once.

"For Deisa. For the Lord Commander!" The soldiers roared.


The streets were now almost empty except for the cultural night life spots, the soldiers of Task Force Smith however were enjoying their last night in Deisa before being shipped off for Operation Eastern Delight, the invasion and occupation of Sri-Lanka. Task Force Smith soldiers' also celebrated the night with the volunteers that were being sent northwards to help in the war with Borgia. The night was lively, full of comradeship and little hostilities. The soldiers of Deisa knew how to control themselves, it was this discipline that would see them stay alive.
Civilians came into the bar they were celebrating from time to time to buy the soldiers a round of drinks, especially the aristocrats who knew how vital the Deisan Defence Force was to Deisa.

Outside on the streets, the Deisan soldiers patrolled them. In groups of four they made sure the streets were secure and not many people tended to argue with a full equipped infantryman who carried a machine gun or rifle. They walked the streets with discipline and eager eyes, each group commanded by a section commander. They would stop each ninety minutes for a small break and a cigarette before patrolling again.


The Lord Commander sat over his desk, it was early hours in the morning but he continued his work regardless. The Deisan Palace was like a fort. Heavily fortified and guarded by his elite Deisan Guard.
The Lord Commander studied recent reports about Borgian naval assets within Deisa controlled waters and reports that he had received about the war in the North. The Sweetiopian alliance Deisa was in seemed to have been the right choice, the people had rejoiced in this choice also, they felt free from the troubles of religious farce, and a lot of people believed that it was the Zculianism that was the contributor to the loss of Deisan lands both here and abroad. They people supported the exile of Zculians or imprisonment if they did not leave Deisan controlled lands.


The checkpoints had been quiet, except for the odd caravan of trade heading in or out of Deisa, a large convoy could be seen coming from Deisa.

"Halt!" A soldier called out, his hand firmly wrapped around the pistol grip of his rifle. He approached the driver's door.

"Another shipment of Zoo men, ready for deporting" The Driver said as he passed over his official documents.

"Good riddance I say" The checkpoint soldier said with a grin, he took a step back and waved the convoy through, other soldiers raising the barrier.

"Nice journey to you" He said, just as the caravan rumbled back to life and left the confines of the checkpoint.

< starters fear the mowhawk.
Ok reasons for continued attacks.
1.they attacked us first.
2.they took our capitol and held it ransom.
3.we talked about a peace treaty borgia ignored it.
4.they have been blockading many turns. 5.they fucked my navy..>_>;
6.They threatened my nation WITH ITS OWN CAPITAL!!!!!
7.THEY ASSASSINATED MY NATIONS LEADERS!!!!!
My nation believes the Borgia should be crushed but we will talk and it will be on our side now even more than it was before such as our first demand just as hazes command for peace was before you must give Desia a small part of your land.
You don't make demands if you have nothing to back you up.
Also if you read carefully the Borgia were going to attack us for Libya.
and unless we find the Borgan treaty reasonable we will continue to fight and it shall be glorious.
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[p.s. try not to be complete dicks (next time]after basically being our worst enemy for many turns we wanted a treaty and the borgia were like hahah nope]
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LASTLY!!!!! nick stop trying to be high and mighty! Xp

Last edited Jul 29, 2011 at 10:25AM EDT

Shakey♪ wrote:

< starters fear the mowhawk.
Ok reasons for continued attacks.
1.they attacked us first.
2.they took our capitol and held it ransom.
3.we talked about a peace treaty borgia ignored it.
4.they have been blockading many turns. 5.they fucked my navy..>_>;
6.They threatened my nation WITH ITS OWN CAPITAL!!!!!
7.THEY ASSASSINATED MY NATIONS LEADERS!!!!!
My nation believes the Borgia should be crushed but we will talk and it will be on our side now even more than it was before such as our first demand just as hazes command for peace was before you must give Desia a small part of your land.
You don't make demands if you have nothing to back you up.
Also if you read carefully the Borgia were going to attack us for Libya.
and unless we find the Borgan treaty reasonable we will continue to fight and it shall be glorious.
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[p.s. try not to be complete dicks (next time]after basically being our worst enemy for many turns we wanted a treaty and the borgia were like hahah nope]
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LASTLY!!!!! nick stop trying to be high and mighty! Xp

What? How the hell am I being "high and mighty"? Or a dick? I was just calling for peace, but whatever, if you want to continue your attacks [sorry Mr. Biscuits] then I can't really stop you… I have my own communist agenda to attend to, I just ask that you keep your wars off my land :P Remember that me and Red Friends are officially neutral 3rd party nations now, and past conflicts are completely behind us.
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And Vardamir, again a very nice piece of writing _

Last edited Jul 29, 2011 at 01:54PM EDT

Principe del Buio wrote:

What? How the hell am I being "high and mighty"? Or a dick? I was just calling for peace, but whatever, if you want to continue your attacks [sorry Mr. Biscuits] then I can't really stop you… I have my own communist agenda to attend to, I just ask that you keep your wars off my land :P Remember that me and Red Friends are officially neutral 3rd party nations now, and past conflicts are completely behind us.
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And Vardamir, again a very nice piece of writing _

Oh no I wasn't calling you a dick.
Your negations were good wasn't talking about you.

Last edited Jul 29, 2011 at 01:54PM EDT

Mr. Biscuits wrote:

Just got my turn in and am willing to sue for peace. As a sign of good faith I'm withdrawing from mainland Sweetiopia.

As the biggest economy in the game I'm seeking mutually beneficial trade agreements with all nations, including Lakota, who I'm willing to talk with regarding a mutually agreed border.

Pm if interested

That was three days ago. You did not pm me.

Mr. Biscuits wrote:

Tita/Sweetopia:
How do you want to do this? I'll withdraw from Madagascar and call off the blockade if you withdraw from Libya

This was several turns ago. I did withdraw from mainland sweetiopia. I was never invited into any peace treaties. I never took your Capitol. I didn't ignore the peace treaty; it never involved me. I didnt fuck your navy; you did. I didn't assassinate your leaders. I've never been a dick to anyone in either game and I'm sorry u mad?

I think a good fight will make the game interesting it's just unfortunate that I now appear to be on the losing end. In any case, I'm open to peace but only if it involves recapture of lost land, and I am willing to cede Madagascar.

I am willing to make this a nuclear fight.

Good show to everyone, you guys really did a number on me.

Sweetie's navy was taken down by the Giozzi, and Sweetie launched that attack. Borgia has been pretty good at preventing them from rebuilding it however. But its not like Sweetie has even tried to rebuild.
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The capital was never taken.
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The laders were assassinated by Giozzi.

I’m open to peace but only if it involves recapture of lost land, and I am willing to cede Madagascar.

You don't own Madagascar, so you cannot cede it. You OCCUPY the land, hence the cross hatching. Its not yours legally. Sweetie still owns it. The same applies for your central European possessions. Medicea does not own the land just because he rolled some tanks over it. Cross hatched land represents the presence of armies on foreign soil, and nothing more.
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So for example, if you all agreed to settle for a "white peace" with no border changes, Madagascar would still be owned by Sweetie Belle.

Last edited Jul 29, 2011 at 02:43PM EDT

The air was thick with anticipation and awe. Before now, the idea of entering the great beyond of space had never been conceived, and the Giozzi populace was ready to enter history as the first race to penetrate the depth of the atmosphere. On a grand platform high above the masses, at the new Space Agency Facilty, stood the most prominent and important members of the Honourable Assembly, with the adorned president at the head, with the best view of the PRG Çailò Rocket before it made it's amazing journey to the blackness of outer space.
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President Czeçzi took the micropone. "Citizens of the People's Republic of Giozzario! Today we make our mark on history as the leading power in space exploration with the launch of Çailò! As she blasts off with the flag of our blessed nation, remember that the next time we conduct a mission of this magnitude, hopefully within 10 years, there will be a man on the ship, on it's way to the moon! The great mystery of the Earth's largest natural satellite shall be claimed all for Giozzario and her people!" The crowd roared with a patriotic passion on this monumental occasion.
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Suddenly the large black monitor next to the launch pad came to life with a 60 second countdown. The masses watched, on there TVs at home, or there at the Space Agency Center, with pride as the seconds counted down. When it came down to 10 seconds, the vast majority of Giozzi citizens, even abroad, started counting down aloud. " 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 BLAST OFF! "
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That's exactly was Çailò did, it's thrusters shot down flames that shook the ground, and it started it's ascent into the last frontier. Giozzario and her people celebrated this victory as the first one in a long time, and immediately started the parades, and by the end of the night, very little pain was to be felt all around. The following day was declared a national holiday for the celebrations to continue. The proud citizens of the communist empire, in Morocco, Spain, Mexico, California, and even some Texans knew in their hearts this was the beginning of an era, and Giozzario had kicked it off. Anticipation for the lunar missions was already starting to grow.
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President Czeçzi was heard to say "Zçùla bless Giozzario" as the rocket made it into space. The next day, he was found shot in the head in his home.
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Okay this is Principe talking now. Yeah, it was my assassins who killed the Sweetieopian leaders, but that was when we were still at war. Same with the navy. As a 3rd party nation, I support a white peace treaty for the involved nations, just my two cents.

Last edited Jul 29, 2011 at 03:06PM EDT

Syndic wrote:

Sweetie's navy was taken down by the Giozzi, and Sweetie launched that attack. Borgia has been pretty good at preventing them from rebuilding it however. But its not like Sweetie has even tried to rebuild.
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The capital was never taken.
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The laders were assassinated by Giozzi.

I’m open to peace but only if it involves recapture of lost land, and I am willing to cede Madagascar.

You don't own Madagascar, so you cannot cede it. You OCCUPY the land, hence the cross hatching. Its not yours legally. Sweetie still owns it. The same applies for your central European possessions. Medicea does not own the land just because he rolled some tanks over it. Cross hatched land represents the presence of armies on foreign soil, and nothing more.
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So for example, if you all agreed to settle for a "white peace" with no border changes, Madagascar would still be owned by Sweetie Belle.

Just too be totally clear I mean and meant that I will abandon occupation of Madagascar.

I'm sure people have taken their measure of my chances at survival but nonetheless I'm requesting assistance from anyone and everyone, particularly old allies like atlantis, giozzi, and Hephaestus.

Medicea is a professional double crosser, which is very admirable.

Important Message from Lakota Aequales:

We are now allowing Texans to take refuge in our country while the conflict in their homeland continues. We Lakotans declare Giozzario's attack on the Texans as unnecessary and brutal, even if the country is made up of religious nutcases.

In other news, we are beginning to adapt new modern technologies, so that we may keep up with the others in this race for power.

Mr. Biscuits wrote:

Just too be totally clear I mean and meant that I will abandon occupation of Madagascar.

I know what you meant. The terminology just bugged me.

@principe: I belive you meant ascend, not descend. Descend is to go down, ascend is to go up. I'll let you take one good guess as to where space is located. Other than that, good read.

@ Mr. Biscuits If peace is not reached on this turn, then I shall send you aid in the form of weapons, technology, and economic support. Again, I'm not ready to lose more land by going to direct war with the SB, but you are my friend. I do support the formation of an alliance between Giozzario, Hephaestus, Atlantis, and Borgia.
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Texas was my valuable colony, and I wanted it back. I still consider them my citizens, and there was nothing "brutal" about the invasion.
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Lmao, I'm still tired, I know the difference between ascend and descend, just wasn't thinking right xD It hasn't been 30 minutes yet, so I shall fix that right away!

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If Sweetieopia and Borgia come to a peaceful solution, then I will withdraw the volunteer expeditionary force I've sent to aid them.

If not, then Deisa will remain supportive to Sweetieopia's attacks into Borgia and I'll also launch my fleet to trap the Borgian fleet located in the Red Sea.

Shakey♪ wrote:

Agree to get out of Libya and and Madagascar and we will pull off the attack that is all we ask.

I canagree to a white peace (which would include abandonment of Madagascar) that also involves no occupation of Greece, Crete, and central Europe (mediceans are deep in my territory). You guys japanned and germ bombed civilian centers, so I think the only way Borgia will sue for peace is a complete withdrawal or our total annhilation.

Mr. Biscuits wrote:

I'm sure people have taken their measure of my chances at survival but nonetheless I'm requesting assistance from anyone and everyone, particularly old allies like atlantis, giozzi, and Hephaestus.

Medicea is a professional double crosser, which is very admirable.

I was simply helping my ally Sweetietopia, they requested help in making you pay, and to tell the truth, we didn't want to help at first. So please, although you may have meant that last part as a compliment, cease the name calling.

RocketPropelledPanda   wrote:

I was simply helping my ally Sweetietopia, they requested help in making you pay, and to tell the truth, we didn't want to help at first. So please, although you may have meant that last part as a compliment, cease the name calling.

First, I didn't call you a name. I said you were a double crosser (in the context of a friendly game) which I think is demonstrably true given that you did blind side Giozzi earlier in the game. Second, I think this game is fun precisely because people act in, er, Machiavellian fashion, which is how I think you've carried your nation throughout this game. That makes this fun; the game would be very boring but for that kind of thing.

Finally, and so there is no misunderstanding, I did mean it as a sincere compliment. I have absolutely no ill will towards you or anyone else and won't even if I am annihilated. This is just a game (and a fun one) and I'm not losing any sleep over it. I am genuinely impressed with the way you're playing (I like the corporate thing) and was complimenting you on some shrewd moves, which have gained you a lot of land--unfortunately some of it was mine.

In other words please do not take offense or umbrage as no insult was intended.

An Official message from the USA

To Giozzario and Hepheastus. The people in the Americas (Texas/Hyrule) are trying to make their own nation outside of your 'empires' and we do not approve of your constant militaristic assaults on these people who just want to be free. The USA asks politely that you let these lands be and let the rule themselves just as Giozzario seceded us. We will assist in freeing these lands militarily if we must but we are asking politely first to please let them be and return to your homelands.

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Mr. Biscuits wrote:

First, I didn't call you a name. I said you were a double crosser (in the context of a friendly game) which I think is demonstrably true given that you did blind side Giozzi earlier in the game. Second, I think this game is fun precisely because people act in, er, Machiavellian fashion, which is how I think you've carried your nation throughout this game. That makes this fun; the game would be very boring but for that kind of thing.

Finally, and so there is no misunderstanding, I did mean it as a sincere compliment. I have absolutely no ill will towards you or anyone else and won't even if I am annihilated. This is just a game (and a fun one) and I'm not losing any sleep over it. I am genuinely impressed with the way you're playing (I like the corporate thing) and was complimenting you on some shrewd moves, which have gained you a lot of land--unfortunately some of it was mine.

In other words please do not take offense or umbrage as no insult was intended.

Okay, sorry, that was a sore misunderstanding on my part. I thank you for your compliments and I actually have to say that the corporate thing was inspired by SingSong last game, so I must compliment your style of play quite a bit on that part. No hard feelings from me here, and lets all continue to have fun. :^]

Shakey♪ wrote:

So Mr. Biscuits you pull out of Africa we pull out of your lands we cool? :3
If you say yes it will be done.

Heh, I think this is still a bait and switch, as Libya (which is in Africa) is MY land. If you bomb my civilians and invade me, I cant reward you with land; to do so would simply invite more unwanted territorial advances. "Appeasement" comes to mind.

As I said, anything short of a white peace is no peace at all, and I intend to fight for Borgian territory. I've been in Libya since the Bronze Age. Those are my people.

Erm, Kokuu, Texas is was trying to create a fascist theocracy , and we'd hate for them to gain too much power or align with other dictatorships. Our reclaiming of Texas land is mostly strategic, in keeping them from aiding other nations. Please do not get involved because I still consider us to be allies and friends, and don't want to sever these ties over some colony's rebellion.

Official telegram from the Chairman's Office of Yudea
This nation, being allied with GIozzario in the Comintern Pact of Red Friends, would like to announce its full support and approval of the Giozzi invasion of Texas, and warn the United States that any attempt to preserve a fascist state that is war with a Comintern nation will meet a swift Yudean declaration of war.

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Syndic wrote:

Official telegram from the Chairman's Office of Yudea
This nation, being allied with GIozzario in the Comintern Pact of Red Friends, would like to announce its full support and approval of the Giozzi invasion of Texas, and warn the United States that any attempt to preserve a fascist state that is war with a Comintern nation will meet a swift Yudean declaration of war.

They fought for their freedom, gained it, and now you are trying to take it away from them. and while I do not want war, my nation will uphold its beliefs in freedom for all peoples. I do not want to go to war which is why I responded as such instead of just attacking. I am currently neutral to your communistic ideas, but the suppression of another people I can not stand for and is why I made my statement. I again ask you to please pull out and while not militarily I will continue to support the Texans with supplies while increasing my taxes on exports to both Giozzario and Yudea. I may not have the 'planes' yet that your people have but I do have the naval forces to back up what I am doing. At the very least attempt to deal with them peacefully before just assaulting them for their beliefs. If they are as irrational as you claim them to be, then I will gladly assist you in bringing their leaders down.

Also the people's in Hyrule deserve just as much a right to freedom and there has yet to be a response from Hephaestus.

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Official Statement from Hephaestus

We would appreciate it if you would stay out of our colonial possessions. We don't want to go to war with you, but we will respond with force if you attack us. We already granted Cuban independence, and that's enough anti-imperialism for me.

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Disenchanted with the new socialist regime and extremely offended by the slacking religious furor in the new socialist Giozzi state, Texas has declared independence as its own conservative nation under a single party dictatorship.

Translated: They were upset that we gave religious freedom, so they created a dictatorship where there is none. I'm sorry, but we can't let this happen, and take an identical stance as Vlad.
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@ Shock Value

Very well then I understand your stance Giozzario and I was mis-informed (my bad I read it wrong) though I still do not approve of the flexing of military might that Hephaestus is doing. From across the world Hephaestus continues to 'colonize' including Hyrule, Australia, India, and other smaller nations that have trouble defending themselves. I will withdraw my threat of military retribution, but will place an embargo on Hephaestian goods. Again I apologize for my misconception about Texas and wish you luck in the ousting of the dictatorship and the spread of freedom.

Kokuu wrote:

Very well then I understand your stance Giozzario and I was mis-informed (my bad I read it wrong) though I still do not approve of the flexing of military might that Hephaestus is doing. From across the world Hephaestus continues to 'colonize' including Hyrule, Australia, India, and other smaller nations that have trouble defending themselves. I will withdraw my threat of military retribution, but will place an embargo on Hephaestian goods. Again I apologize for my misconception about Texas and wish you luck in the ousting of the dictatorship and the spread of freedom.

-Industrialization continues as Atlantean factories are quickly displacing the entire farming community, providing jobs of higher pay and better consistency. However, this is making the US extremely dependent upon foreign imports for food, clothing, and raw materials. More and larger harbours are springing up along the coast to facilitate this new trade demand.

You know, we are one of the, if not the, largest exporter of manufactured goods and embargoing us would have consequences for your economy, it being dependent on imports and whatnot.

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I do understand that, however you arn't the only one as I'm fairly certain that trade through the rest of the world will be fine. Raw materials is what I need mostly and food. Manufacturing is kinda what the whole factory part is.

Kokuu wrote:

I do understand that, however you arn't the only one as I'm fairly certain that trade through the rest of the world will be fine. Raw materials is what I need mostly and food. Manufacturing is kinda what the whole factory part is.

Hephaestus deals in raw goods too you know. We do sit on top of some of the world's largest oil reserves after all. I think the 2nd largest exporter would probably be Borgia, which won't be exporting much of anything until Mr. Biscuits deals with the invasion. Bythia probably exports lots of Lumber, but you were a member of HAZE and they're probably still bitter about being invaded in the name of religion and whatnot.

Edit: Just a suggestion, but a list of the primary export(s) of all Nations would be nice to have for these economic debates.

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