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And a fun little factoid, Diamond Tiara helped create the Cutie Mark Crusaders and helped get them their Cutie Marks. I like that little bit of ironic justice.

Oh look, a page get. Cutie Mark Crusader thread

I used to hate them back in season 1, but they grew on me over time.

CMC, CMC everywhere

The musical episode this season was pretty cool

I watched the reaction videos and the stream reactions of the scene where the CMC got their cutie marks, and some of them were so emotional that they cried during that scene.

Why yes, I do think that of all the fandoms, bronies are still the best EDM/remix artists. Thanks for asking.

Protip: don't ever look up images of Dash on Derpibooru without first filtering the vore tag, or else you'll see what the meaning of "hard vore" really is.

Ugh.

I don't see Rainbow Dash and vore pics frequently on Derpibooru. Sonic and Rainbow Dash pics, on the other hand….

Rather than looking at certain pony pics at Derpibooru, I check out the dashabetes tag once in a while along with twiabetes, shyabetes, jackabetes, diapinkes, and raribetes for my daily dose of cuteness.

If you make an account, you can have it auto-filter out any tags you don't like. Why not just add vore to the list?

Okay guys this is it, after almost 8 months season 5 ends today! We laughed, we cried (mainly because of those GODDAMN HIATUSES!) but most of all….there were a lot of bad episodes. And by bad episodes I mean baaaad episodes, episodes so bad (some being not so 'bad' but more like 'boring as all hell') that when you do a Season 5 marathon it'll probably be a lot shorter than a marathon of any other season. But not only were there bad episodes, there were good ones, and episodes so good that they cancel out the bad ones. Isn't that what's REALLY important?!

Also, perhaps we will get word on when the next season airs? Perhaps Spring 2016 instead of MAKING US WAIT ANOTHER GODDAMN YEAR! Bring on the finale!

Since when does a show about pastel-colored magic ponies have music like Kelly Clarkson!?

Fuck's sake, last episode's The Magic Inside and Stop the Bats are the only two MLP songs I'll willingly sit through. Way to anticipate the finale

I stumbled onto this PMV, which is a crossover video with another series I'm a huge dork for. But besides being a (really good) parody and PMV, it's such a great recap of the whole show, the world of Equestria, and the adventures the mane six have been through. I'm hyped for the finale now more than ever.

Okay so…..good finale. Yes yes good episode all around. Always thought Starlight Glimmer was one of my favorite villains so I'm glad to see her again. I definitely got a good laugh out of "Mad Dash" and liked seeing what the world would be like if each villain had won, Moondancer cameo! All the scenes of Filly Dash made me HNNNNG. It's amazing that the screencaps are all over the place, I'd post some but some people are going to come to this thread before watching the episode first so…..Yeah. Just a small problem….that ending. Not a bad ending but it was too cheery, like it was too cheery right after everything that had happened. Like…..is there something missing?

I seriously think there should've been some sort of Transition in all honesty but it just kind of jumped from Starlight being evil to "YOU'RE OUR NEW BEST FRIEND NOW!" We all knew Starlight would be redeemed because she's the most 'normal' of antagonists and if it wasn't for her insane magical abilities she would be nothing more than a Trixie or a Gilda….oh and apparently this whole season's theme has been redemption so not a surprise. What's surprising though is just how fast it happens, one song and boom. I mean when you think about it she just destroyed Equestria 6 times….but now she's suddenly the new best friend. Like I said, good episode, just a….weird ending.

Overall, good season, some duds, but plenty of great episodes that cancel out the baaaaad episodes. I'd rank it as Notseason3/10.

Also, a little unsettling when you think about it but I think Chrysalis's's's's future kind of hinted at Applejack, Rainbow Dash and Rarity being dead. Just let that last one sink in.

"I don't know why my group of friends are so important to Equestria, all we did was stop Eternal Night, stop the Mad God of Chaos, helped stop the Changling Invasion, and stopped Sombra. We aren't anymore important than anyone else, just five bearers of the most powerful magic and the God-Princess of the very magic"

Does this mean Starlight's gonna be hanging around Season six? Redemption's fine, but she doesn't really have much of a personality outside of her villain persona, and all that "not equal" angst is gonna resurface when she get's Spiked out of the Elements, unless she is gonna become the Element of Redemption, in which case a certain yellow humpony has called dibs.

Also, did anyone else want the rock to crush Rainbow in the first future? Like, not out of hate, but it's gonna get reset anyway, and it would cement the bad future setting realizes I'm asking for on screen death in a little girls show you know what, never mind.

Season 5 finale thoughts:

Pretty fun. As Kewln00berGator VIII mentioned above, I liked the whole "What if this villain won?" situations. Though to be honest, I might be nitpicky with this, but the segment with Flim and Flam was pretty over the top (seriously, how can con-artists become industrial kings just like that?). Starlight Glimmer was pretty cool in this too, though I agree with KewIn00berGator VIII in that her redemption felt pretty rushed, like Discord's from "Keep Calm and Flutter On". I honestly would've liked it if the episode ended where she found the friend who got his cutie mark after so many years and make ammends with him.

All in all, really neat episodes, good way to end the season. I'll share my season 5 thoughts another time, gotta take time to soak it in.

What can I say? This season finale was a blast! Starlight Glimmer was a very clever villain in the season finale and was able to outsmart Twilight a bunch of times. Heck, she proved that she was not an ordinary pony by dodging Twilight's attacks, stopping filly Rainbow Dash with her magic, and distracting other ponies to disrupt the past events to change the future dramatically. I also love how she got a villain redemption after learning her mistakes. No Elements of Harmony, no rainbow power, no magic whatsoever. Just a simple talk about friendship, and she was able to learn about her mistakes.

Discord may be my favorite villain in terms of humor, but Starlight is now my favorite villain in terms of cleverness.

So do you remember this old EQD post? Apparently, we'll be seeing season six some time this year, as in within the next month or so. I guess they finally realized how BS all those hiatuses are.

This soon? If that's true, it might also mean another 13 episode season since I doubt they could get a full season done so fast

Sorry guys but i have to remind you that that tweet was a mistake.

@Season finale
9/10. Probably the best one yet. All the fanfic AUs certainly helped. The different timelines were fun and exciting, but Starlight was a terrible villain. Her motivation was probably the worst I've seen on the show and her redemption sped by. Would have been nice if they used the "fix the timeline" plot on a more worthy antagonist. And it'd be nicer if the antagonists stayed antagonists. Not everyone can be redeemed. That would make for a great moral.

Platus said:

Why not just add vore to the list?

I don't browse Derpibooru that often so I never bothered setting up a filter list and just opt to "manually" filter tags when doing searches. I didn't think hard vore would be as plentiful as it was.

Ryumaru Borike said:

Also, did anyone else want the rock to crush Rainbow in the first future?

No? They were already going full grimdark. No need to tip it into bismuth territory. Plus, you can infer Cadance and/or Shining Armor is dead since they failed to stabilize the Crystal Empire when it returned.

Platus said:

I guess they finally realized how BS all those hiatuses are.

It's rumored to be a year and a half long one for S6. Based on the idea that if it starts in April 2017, it'll lead into the movie in November.

I just watched it again and with pauses to think about the things happening during the episode, here's what i got:
1) This finale wasn't written by Larson or Meghan, it was Josh Haber, the Castle Mane-ia guy. I think he did a pretty good job.
2) It looks like that video Onion Syrup posted (page 64) about simultaneous acquisition of cutie marks was kinda right.

3) After watching it again i don't think the ending was so rushed as i thought, Starlight was an antagonist because she wanted a "small" revenge against Twilight but she wasn't evil as a villain. There was no bad future where she equalized the world and the ashlands timeline made her realize how bad she fucked up.

4) Her backstory and reasons for hating cutie marks that led to the almost destruction of the world were very stupid though (Uchiha Obito approves).

@Baluh No villain has a shittier excuse than Obito

9/10, great episode(s) and a vast improvement over the last several. There's not much I can say that hasn't already been said, so I'll just throw in what little issue I had with the episode.

The time travel in this episode made almost no sense. It seems like Haber was just pulling timelines out of his ass when that's not at all how the butterfly effect works. The butterfly effect only works when there's some sort of logical reason why the small change would cause a ripple effect in the timeline, and quite a few of the bad futures contain obvious logical problems.

Probably the most blatant of these problems is that there is only one villain that has taken over in every given bad future, even though they should logically all be rampaging around at once without the Elements to stop them. Where is Nightmare Moon in the Sombra and Chrysalis timelines? What is Chrysalis doing in the timelines where Sombra and NMM did succeed? What happened to the more minor villains, like the Tantabus, Ahuizotl, and Starlight herself? Nobody knows. While you could make the argument that the ashlands timeline is itself the result of full-scale war between Equestria and each of the antagonists' forces, there's no explaining why this was averted in the previous timelines.

But that is a pretty nitpicky qualm, and the fact that it's so nitpicky just goes to show how good the episode was on the whole.

Now we wait for the movie.

I've been looking over at people discussing about the season finale, and they mentioned about the similarities of Twilight becoming Celestia's pupil and Starlight becoming Twilight's apprentice. Celestia did it because she sees a ton of magic potential in Twilight Sparkle. Twilight's doing the same thing to Starlight as well; she sees how talented Starlight is in magic, so she decides to have her becoming Twilight's apprentice and learn about the magic of friendship.

I'm looking forward to seeing how Starlight will do as Twilight's apprentice in the next season.

This is badass. I can't believe this is a thing that happened. I wouldn't mind if My Little Pony was just this from now on.

I also like that Pinkie's mane is so similar to Limestone's. Makes me think that maybe without the Rainboom, Pinkie turned out just as gruff and grumpy as her sister. Does that means Pinkie and Limestone are interchangable in the grand scheme of things, and that if it was Limestone who saw the rainboom, it would have been her who became the element of laughter?
…Probably not, but it's fun to imagine.

I also like that, for once, the inappropriate implications of this scene were probably entirely intentional. Just look at Dash's face. She's totally recalling that "Stranger Danger" talk her parents had with her.

In other news, someone on TvTropes has already moved Starlight Glimmer into the "Mane cast" section. If this isn't jumping the gun I don't know what is.

Okay, so let me get this straight, they redeemed Starlight?
For fuck's sake…

Well, it isn't that farfetched, she was never really evil, just crazy and obsessed.

Making her part of the main group however is a bit much, but I am a bit skeptical about the part she is gonna play. At best I see her as becoming Twilight's student who sits somewhere below where Spike is in regards to the Mane six

I guess nothing's particularly fat-fetched after trying to make Discord a good guy, and potentially (going by writer's tweets, which may or may not be sincere or accurate to what they do later on) cramming in sympathetic Changelings…

Not really a "For fuck's sake" moment as Starlight isn't "evil". She just had a messed up way of looking at things which was "Hey, I want to make everyone equal. I mean not me because I can't make everyone equal if I don't have magic myself but hey, this way everyone can live in harmony with one another except for me." compared to "I MUST SUCK UP TEH ENERGY OF ALL THE BEINGS IN EQUESTRIA AND DESTROY EVERYTHING! BLAGABABABABABABA!!!" and even her plan in this episode was basically just to get back at Twilight, she didn't know she practically destroyed the world each time she (thought) she was doing something as minor as stopping Rainbow Dash doing a rainboom.

Besides, perfectly fine to redeem a villain like Starlight and Discord when we still have villains like Chrysalis, Tirek and Sombra (dead) who won't be redeemed just because unlike Starlight are downright evil and have tried to destroy/take over Equestria.

For a while now until recently I wasn't really watching the episodes, not due to problems I just had with the show, just other things just came up, but I have just caught myself up, and I was able to look at the Gallery without worrying of spoilers (Took me a while just to load up the entire gallery till where I last remembered).

A few photos came to mind, and it's about the writers leaving MLP. I'm still out of the loop about all this. Is there a reason why or are they just moving on, and has there been any known and credible replacements to the staff?

They just moved on, Amy Keating Rogers is now working on a Disney web series (Star Darlings) and Sibsy is working on comic books (mostly covers) as far as i know. I haven't heard of any replacements for them.

Short version of my opinion on Starlight Glimmer's redemtion:

"My god, finally I can stop hating her, and by extention myself."

I may or may not have previously mentioned that if given the power to steal cutie marks, I'd use it to become strong rather than make others weak. Because weakness is UNACCEPTABLE! The difference being that I wouldn't leave them with a god damned power limiter. I'd just tell them to push themselves to the limit and they'll probably make a new cutie mark.

Now I add to that the fact that if given Time Travel, I wouldn't screw anyone over…. AT ALL! Because I have litterally no reason to screw others over, I would rather use it to fix my own mistakes, which compared to everyone else, I tend to be the biggest cause of my own problems.

So yeah… Seeing one use powers that, personality wise, fit me like a glove, as much as I'd like to move beyond it… And yet she uses it for all the wrong reasons as far as I'm concerned… I can't help but want to scream at her that she's "Doing It Wrong!"

Really at this point, I'm pretty much just relieved she stopped doing it.

… And also relived I no longer have a reason to keep imagining myself trying to enact karmic justice out of spite that just makes me hate myself for harboring hypocritical thoughts.

Hey, I just noticed that in both the Sombra and the Nightmare Moon Timelines, they say that events happened "Years" ago. So I guess this finally proves without a shadow of a doubt that MLP takes place over several years, not just 1 and a bit.

Shame, I kinda liked the idea of it all taking place in a short span of time. It made a little bit less sense, but it was much neater and tidier. I'm thinking about making a detailed timeline of events that spaces everything out to the earliest possible time it could have happened. I'd need to improve my graphic design skills first, though.

Something else I learned yesterday was that in the Japanese version of MLP, Applejack's element isn't Honesty, it's Trust.

…That makes so much sense. I like that a lot better. Being honest still falls under the "Trustworthy" umbrella so everything regarding her element still works, but it also contains things like dependability and supportiveness, which Applejack has in spades. Not to mention that "Trust" is a vital aspect of friendship and honesty really isn't, AND it fits that Twilight-dangling-off-the-cliff thing from the second episode much better.

I like to think that after Celestia and Luna found the elements and defeated Discord with them, there was some sort of miscommunication and the element got labelled as "Honesty." When Celestia and Luna realised their mistake, they just kept it to themselves to save face.

Finally got around to watching the finale, and I have to say it impressed me. At first I was skeptical, because after seeing the future fucked up from ones own actions, how could someone possibly justify doing it again and again?

The answer came simply, they can't. Which is what made the whole thing work surprisingly well. Starlight didn't know the future she was creating, solving one of the biggest gripes I had with the whole idea. I don't really care how they present time travel since time travel is impossible and so is purely in the realm of stuff like "how do you shoot fire from your hands without burning yourself?" Magic talk.

I will say this though, starlights willingness to stop after really seeing the consequences of her tampering with time were good, but it still felt a bit rushed. The consequences of doing a redemption via song montage. No doubt in world it took weeks to months, but the montage does leave it feeling more like mere minutes.

I loved how starlight didn't do the same thing each time twilight and spike came back. Sometimes she flat out sabotaged the race, but the fact she used kindness just as often, such as helping fluttershy finish the course or lecturing the bullies, made it that much more entertaining to watch. And showed a more complex character in starlight then default mcevil.

Tyler Bowman said:

..any known and credible replacements to the staff?

AKR and Sibsy have both moved on to Disney, Thiessen will now be working full time on the movie, which makes sense as he's the director. McCarthy was promoted to Hasbro corporate, and Vogel (the Hasbro Studios exec) will be writing for S6. It's rumored Larson will take over as showrunner since McCarthy's now an evil executive, but with those books and a possible screenplay, I kind of doubt it.

They got a couple new writers. Neal Dusedau appears to be the "new" Merriweather, with his episodes (Princess Spike and What About Discord?) generally considered among the worst of the season. G.M. Berrow, the writer of the semi-canon books, also joined the writing staff, which suggests that those semi-canon books could be upgraded to full canon status.

Wow . . . our little writing team is growing up so fast!

But seriously though – pretty much every major person on this show has had some kind of career upgrade over the last few months, and that's fantastic. One of the benefits of following a show like this is getting to watch it incubate all kinds of great talent, and then following up to see the cool things they go on to do later (Adventure Time is the stand-out example here). Good for them!

So as of right now, most of the major writers moved on. Yea I kinda agree with Neal being not great. Princess Spike wasn't really enjoyable and the Discord episode is just weird, and kinda of pointless all together. I'm kinda surprised that most if not all of the major writers isn't working on the movie, and then moving on, while new writers are hired to run the show.

I hope there will be announcements of writers that took part in shows that could really use their spin and spice to MLP. But since I'm not really the one to know writing staff in other shows and even in MLP, I'm probably going to resort to looking up their work when they announce they are going to be the new staff of the show. But I'm guessing we'll be having brand new people that hasn't worked on anything in particular and just hope for the best that they can pull it off. I really hope that these announcements aren't going to become the predecessors to what went wrong.

Heh, the Sombra timeline reminded me of this. Guess someone on the team is as big a LoK nerd as me.

Yet you guys don't even mention Denny Lu who suddenly took over the Directing starting the second half of season 5 (confirmed anti-christ) whose first act of evil was making the Directing credit look very clusterfucky on screen. For shame. Was kind of wondering why Megan McCarthy hasn't written anything, sad to see she's now…..corporate. Expect a Flash Sentry line of merchandise ASAP. Well on the brightside now that McCarthy is corporate it throws out my theory of the show coming under a hostile take over by Discovery Family as I was going to detail in my next Discovery Family Rant/Doom thread.

I guess Neal Dusedau is my new nemesis now. Especially since Merriwether redeemed herself and….well, isn't here at all anymore.

@Baluh

You'd be surprised how much the Brony Notion gets right. He also anticipated Diamond Tiara's confusion with her cutie mark.

Took me a while to post on the forums, but yeah finale is a 10/10 for me.

Aside from Starlight's past, everything was executed flawlessly for me. And regarding Starlight's past, seeing as how it's very similar to the backstory of the main antagonist in one of the most popular mangas of this generation, I'd say our little show for little kids exceeded my expectations well enough to not incur anything I would call a flaw. One thing I would have loved to see was Starlight's reaction when she got her cutie mark though. Starlight's actions throughout the finale was justifiable and the writers caught me off guard with how complex they were able to make her. Starlight seething with rage in the 7th world, not being able to fathom how her actions are killing Equestria and how important the life of her Arch nemesis is to its safety, will always be a memorable scene for me.

Other comments I have would be:

• MLP's action scenes are getting more and more impressive. Some would say they're edgy given the original context the show is in, but legit these are some really good looking action scenes for characters without hands.
• This was such a good way of bringing back the older villains without belittling them as the petty recurring villain type
• So many implied deaths. I'm sure in the many worlds, it was a free-for-all with all the mlp villains until the last man standing.
• Holy molly Starlight is powerful enough to fly without wings? Fuckin' Zaheer up in here man
  

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A bit unrelated from the rest so I'm not putting it in bullet:

I love how Maud and Pinkie were carrying rocks in their satchels. As earth bending ponies, these most likely served as high speed projectiles that they shot at enemy forces

Is there some sort of epic pony war in the distant future or something? -Twilight Sparkle, 2012

^
You know, this is the eternal problem of this show… The Hiatus. No matter how good the season was, the moment its over, its like… "Can't wait for next Episode… Oh wait." and you're forced to wait all year.

I mean… If this season was still going, we'd be watching the new episode half an hour from now, and some part of… Well, me specifically… Feels like I should be anticipating a new episode any minuite, but its not coming.

I feel like there should be more episodes in this season! But there isn't! And Its not helped by the fact this season was split in two.

Look on the bright side gents! Hopefully Season 6 will be in April 2016 instead of……Fall 2016……..

Kewln00berGator VIII said:

Hopefully Season 6 will be in April 2016 instead of……Fall 2016……..

A lot of people, myself included, think it won't be till April 2017, since the movie's not releasing until November and they'd want to lead into it with some hype and build up.

If it does release early, then I think that guarantees a S7, since, if they're smart, they're going to want something to lead into the movie.

I somehow doubt its going to take THAT long between seasons. There hasn't really been a year so far since the show started where there wasn't a season that at least partially taken place during it. So I'd presume the later case, where we get a S6 and a S7.

As for the "movie lead up" point… I want to point out, there have been some cases for some shows where the reverse is true; and the movie is used to hype up the season. Some would consider the 2 parters that open each season of MLP a variation of this idea. But for an actual example, I do know that before the very first season of Digimon, they had a Movie that gave the backstory for the show. (Which in the english release got fused with two other movies.)

Meanwhile, here's something I suddenly want…

Don't forget that Legend of Everfree thing, we don't even know if it's EqG4 or a new series.

that looks like a bratz character

Yeah, i don't know why they keep using that box art style, it looks nothing like the real thing.